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  • missingmercury
    missingmercury Member Posts: 161
    edited October 2014

    I hated the dreaded grenades I had for weeks after my bmx.  First good thing that happened was when they pulled the drains out.

  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited October 2014

    momine - how frustrating!  I do think Drs forget what they tell us sometimes...that drives me crazy!  Hope you get feeling better now that you can sleep on your right side

    missingmercury - Right now I am wearing a cheap $4.98 bra from Walmart that has pockets and I have my foam boobs (that came with my after surgery camisole) in them.  I have a prescription for the "real" fake ones but had to cancel my appointment when I was sick a few weeks ago and haven't rescheduled it yet.  The foam ones and this bra are actually very comfortable and I forget they aren't mine!

    nativemainer - Yes I am having some success with my work issues!  I do have a lot of fun with the personality tests and am looking forward to reading more over the weekend about the one I did yesterday.  I know this will help my work issues even more.

    macatac - I can relate to what you're saying...I'm still working, but it just doesn't mean the same to me anymore.  Doesn't seem as important to me as it was before.  Glad your procedure went well!  Enjoy that new car!!

    glennie - hang in there with the hot flashes - think positive "no estrogen" thoughts!!

    I suppose I should go make some dinner...I have some chicken waiting to be cooked.  But first...I almost forgot to mention what the dietician told me today.  She said she would recommend I stay completely away from soy protein (also soy protein isolate if those two things are different - I'm not sure) and soy oil but said soy lecithin wouldn't be a problem.  She also said to stay away from ground flax.  She said she wouldn't be too worried about it if my gluten free bread had a few flax seeds since those aren't really digested, but nothing ground was allowed.  Unfortunately my favorite gluten free bread has both ground flax meal and flax seeds, so I guess that's off the list!  She gave me a few links to some healthy eating websites, but I haven't been to them yet and don't have it in front of me.  Will post that over the weekend in case anyone is interested.

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited October 2014

    chipmunk57, sorry you had to learn about that tumor, but I loved your story about buying all the pink stuff & the purpose behind it. 

    I remember in 2009-10, my 1st couple years, of being all gung-ho about pinktober & I didn't really understand why some folks had such a dislike.  5 yrs out, I understand some what, none or very little of the money raised from selling pink actually goes to BC, and yes, we have awareness, we need a cure!  But part of me is still not completely offended by the pink.  If the exposure gets 1 woman to go have a mammo that then leads to her diagnosis & treatment, I think that the some good comes from the pink. And the title survivor doesn't offend me in the least.  I have survived & I am proud of it.  I'll take that title as long as it fits.  If at some point, God forbid, there is a recurrence, well I'll just have to get my warrior self back at it!!  

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2014

    Missingmercury, sometimes I wear foobs, sometimes not. My foobs are not proper prosthetics, just a pair of silicone bra liners from a lingerie shop. They are meant to bump you up a cup size and they do! :D In my case from 0 to an AA. It is enough to make clothes hang right (to my eye that is) and make it seem like I might have boobs. I also like having a bit of a buffer between my chest and the world. It took some time to get used to it, but I have no regrets and no desire to do recon.

    Kathec, I was doing the same, but I only have very mild LE that is currently under control. Thing is that the struggle to be conscious of my sleeping position, while I was sleeping, really interfered with my sleep. When I came home from the hip X-ray and everything, I slept for an hour, and then I slept 10 hours straight that night. It is the first time I have slept deeply in years.

    Barsco, thanks so much. The timing was so weird, the day after getting high-5s from my onc.

    Mel147, WAAAAY better. I probably still should be a bit careful, because certain positions on that side clearly bother the lymph flow, but just being able to sleep without being nervous the while time is a vast improvement.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited October 2014

    that timing was weird!

  • missingmercury
    missingmercury Member Posts: 161
    edited October 2014

    The soft bras I have tried cut to close to my underarms and that is not comfortable.  My problem is all my shirts are cut for DD's.  I am better than I thought I would be with flat, but I cannot afford a whole new wardrobe right now.  At least it is cooler now and I can wear neck scarves.

  • Mulligan
    Mulligan Member Posts: 205
    edited October 2014

    MissingMercury, I went from a DD to now I think a C cup? I didn't want to go back to being big, I'm not allowed to wear any underwire bras right now so all my old bras are sitting nicely in the drawer. I just wear sports bras now. You can get them at a decent price, Target tends to have them go through clearance when new colors comes in or when the seasons change. I'm always cold so I wear scarves all year round.

  • missingmercury
    missingmercury Member Posts: 161
    edited October 2014

    I bought a genie bra and it is not bad.  those forms in the cups get moved around sometimes though.  lol

  • Mulligan
    Mulligan Member Posts: 205
    edited October 2014

    lol MissingMercury, I hear you and yes I'm the lazy one that will wash my bras and panties in the washer and I'll have pads either out of the bras or contorted in weird shapes in the bra and of course those are the ones that are sewn in the bras. hehe

  • missingmercury
    missingmercury Member Posts: 161
    edited October 2014

    yes.  I should free it so I can just slip it in.  lol.  duh.

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited October 2014

    Welcome to Pinktober...again.  October was once a perfectly fine Fall month, and now look at it.  I still do think that awareness is a necessary precursor to action; but I can't help but feel a backlash aversion to all the pinkitude shoved in my face this month.  Someone else has said it way better than I, and more hilariously:

    "Awareness" beats secrecy and stigma of
    course, but I can't help noticing that the existential space in which a
    friend has earnestly advised me to "confront [my] mortality" bears a
    striking resemblance to the mall.  ~~Barbara Ehrenreich

    For those who like to read, Barbara Ehrenreich manages to say in one longish article that which I have felt and only communicated piecemeal on these boards and elsewhere.   It is from 13 years ago and, since then, October has become even more pink, so even if you have come across this article before, it is worth a re-read every now and again.

    Welcome to Cancerland
  • macatacmv
    macatacmv Member Posts: 1,386
    edited October 2014

    eli, very well written article. Hard to believe it was written 13 years ago. I feel like you, that pinktober has just gotten to be "more". My sister died 15 years ago and really how much has really improved since. I certainly learned a lot from her I hope the medical research people did too.

    Another thing that has me a bit annoyed, I am part of the Sister Study. Twice in the last few months the examiner has not shown up for scheduled exams at my house. No call, no nothing. This is after I have scraped dust off the tops of my door frames, filled out a detailed questionnaire about my previous 24 hours, not eaten for 12 hours and collected my first pee of the day. I like how it takes into account the environmental factors, but they need to get some better personnel. The last time they did all this for me was probably 10 years ago. That time it was a piece of cake. I don't know why it bothers me so much, it's not like I'm losing work time or anything. 

    I really, really hope I can find a dentist to extract my frigging tooth tomorrow. The joys of living on an island. And the fact that all medical professionals are so specialized.  My wonderful dentist told me on Friday afternoon that it needs to come out but he couldn't do it. agghhh!

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited October 2014


    I love Barbara Ehrenreich.  Have you read her book:  Bright-sided  How positive thinking is undermining America ?   chapter one is:  Smile or Die:  The Bright Side of Cancer.

    Well worth reading.

  • barsco1963
    barsco1963 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited October 2014

    mac - how frustrating that you were stood up, especially after fasting etc. I really wish we could charge a "no show" fee for those who are so inconsiderate. On the positive - your door frames are dust free. Hope you can get that tooth taken care of.

  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited October 2014

    I posted this in "Here's what cheezed me off today" and wanted to post it here as well.  I share an office with 2 people, but only one was there today. Another
    co-worker came in to sit down and talk to her along with another
    person. Next thing I know I hear the conversation turning to the topic
    of cancer and dying if the treatment doesn't work, etc. etc. I really
    couldn't believe it. I just sat doing my work and not acknowledging
    them or the conversation. I know the person who started the
    conversation just wasn't thinking and I wasn't mad at him...at some
    point he realized what he had been saying and he did say something to me
    about it, but still...the topic just made me sad. It makes me realize
    how important it is for me to think of the people around me when I am
    speaking so I don't inadvertently make someone else sad.  

    mac - that is crazy that they stood you up like that!  I would especially be mad about the not eating...I need my breakfast!

  • macatacmv
    macatacmv Member Posts: 1,386
    edited October 2014

    Well, I got an appt to get tooth extracted this afternoon, waited in stand by to get my car off island.  Of course I needed to fill out a medical questionnaire. So the doc wanted me to be on an antibiotic for a few days and he also wanted to check my blood levels. He put on the lab work paper that it was because of the tamoxifen script. Anyone else had this happen? This guy is more cautious than my BS. So I gotta wait until friday or there is a cancellation. I was so bummed! They had me all suited up and all the instruments out. I had even downed my little helpers to keep me calm. So another nap in the car on the way home. He claims the antibiotic should make my mouth feel better.

    mel, I find that some people seem to be so caught up with what is going  on with them, they barely notice other people around them. That's nice that you brought a positive lesson from the episode. 

    thanks bars! The regional manager of the program called me and asked if I would stay patient and hang in with them. She apologized a few times.  They were actually worried about their examiner. So we'll see.

  • missingmercury
    missingmercury Member Posts: 161
    edited October 2014

    Glennie, bought it to read.  Looks interesting and I know what she means about feeling impelled to have a positive attitude or suffer a setback with the bc.

    So who else is happy it is bulky sweater season?  Who needs breasts?  lol

    Mel, how horrible.  Good to remember though.  I started crying at work today for no apparent reason.  I know the bc and chemo are enough, but that is not like me at all.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited October 2014

    It is not bulky sweater season yet down here, but I will enjoy it once it does get here.  Hope you like the book, missingmerc,,,, and remember keep a positive attitude!   **smirk**   total sarcasm,,,, we need a sarcasm icon here!

    Wow, Mel, I can see why that cheezed you off. What is with people???? They can't see any further than themselves??

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited October 2014

    hey all. mac, hope you get that tooth out soon1 i didn't know that about yamoxifen, maybe your rn from tx center could call him? nothing, i mean nothing- is worse than tooth pain.

    i am reading that barbara ehrenrich book too, she is pretty good on all things she examines, better than michael moore, even, in my opinion.

    I loooove sweater and coats and hats and leggings and gloves season! we haven't had one here for a while.

    i am off to see my endocrinologist today, and i am hoping that she will sign me off medically for excused from jury duty. for several reasons, i don't know if they count. i have insomnia at night, and wake up several times when i do fall asleep. i take pain pills still, and anti depressants, all those things together plus the things i have to do with LE and walking out pains from femara, etc, makes it a long morning for me to get ready. i would not trust me to make life or death decisions for myself, much less someone else. the quality of attention that i have is not what it used to be, plus i think it would depress the crap out of me.  what do you all think? when i used to get called up, i always wanted to be picked, because i thought it would be interesting to see first hand how our justice system worked. i am not interested at all, now, and the perverse imps that secretly run my life, would probably allow me to get chosen for it this time... and, i am hand making christmas presents this year, and need all the time i can get. i just got my port out 2 weeks ago, and except for today, have no appointments till the end of november, and then january! so excited about that!

    missing mercury, i was just wondering_ was mercury the name of a beloved pet? if so, i am very sorry...pet loss is the worst. even worse than a toothache.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited October 2014

    ELIMAR! LOVE THE LEAVES!

  • missingmercury
    missingmercury Member Posts: 161
    edited October 2014

    Kathec, I am a HUGE Queen fan.  I did lose a pet recently and I just cried and cried.  He stayed with my ex when we separated, but was part of our family for almost 16 years.  He was Indiana Jones, because that was the dogs name.  :-)

    We totally need a sarcasm emoticon...maybe a middle finger held up?  idk.  I am so tired of smiling at everyone so they don't feel bad and being told 'how brave' it is that I am so upbeat.  Everyone says, who doesn't have cancer, "a positive attitude makes a difference".  So I do get depressed even more on my depressed days thinking my bad attitude is birthing cancer cells.  BLAH!  BAH HUMBUG!  Cancer can kiss my ass!  I'll be pissed if I want to.  Plus I have so much cancer apparel now, thanks to well meaning friends, that I could upholster my recliner.

    Kathec, I would not want me on a jury right now.  I have never had my name drawn, but my yelling at other drivers when I drive make me think I have anger issues right now.  lol

  • justamy
    justamy Member Posts: 532
    edited October 2014

    Losing pets stinks. It makes it worse when you have to be strong because your kids are mourning too. We have lost 2 dogs this year. Our first was a rat terrier that we had for 13 years. That's my 12 year olds whole life. My 18 year old took it the hardest. It was terrible. We then got a lab puppy and it got Parvo at 5 months and died in just a few days. Now we got a rescue dog that is half pit bull and half German Shepherd. He's about a year old and is an awesome dog named Hercules. He doesn't replace the others but he definitely has become part of the family! I can't imagine life without a dog. :)

  • missingmercury
    missingmercury Member Posts: 161
    edited October 2014

    Me too, JustAmy.  Oreo was a blessing when I was diagnosed.

  • Mulligan
    Mulligan Member Posts: 205
    edited October 2014

    Sorry for all your loss of pets, they truly are a part of our families and not just pets. I lost my Pochi (one in avatar) a couple years ago, it devastated me, he was my baby. Even our cat took it hard so we got an older rescue cat for her. He passed away earlier this year of kidney failure he was 10 and our cat followed soon afterwards She was almost 9, she just died peacefully in her sleep.

    We got 2 baby kittens for our younger girls. I'd love to get another Maltese type dog, just not ready right now.

  • marlegal
    marlegal Member Posts: 2,264
    edited October 2014

    Hello all. Just stopping in to say that I'm alive and well, but doubt that I'll be posting here anymore. I don't see work letting up at all and I don't have the time to stay as on top of things as this group deserves. This is the best thread on BCO as far as I'm concerned. Eli, you created a marvel. I wish you all good health and lives filled with love.  Ciao!

  • macatacmv
    macatacmv Member Posts: 1,386
    edited October 2014

    oh, marl, we'll miss your popping in! I feel like the thread is going through a metamorphosis. The baton is being passed. We will try to carry on in the middie spirit. 

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  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited October 2014

    macatac and glennie - you're both right, sometimes people just can't see beyond themselves.  Good news is no cancer talk today at work!    mac - Bummer you couldn't get the tooth extraction done yet.  I hope the meds work well and you can get it done on Friday.
    glennie - hope your recovery is going well and your manservant is keeping the ironing done and the house clean!

    kathec - hope you are able to get out of jury duty.  I was called when I was pregnant with my 2nd but was excused since I had gestational diabetes and had to pee all the time!  Would not have been able to sit through it!

    missingmercury - sorry about the tears at work...hang in there!  

    justamy and mulligan - sorry for the loss of your pets.  Glad you both have had some new additions to your families!  We are loving our rescue, Dixie and so is her older "brother" Spencer!

    My oldest (21 yrs old) is coming home for the weekend for Fall Break!  We are looking forward to seeing her for a few days, I just have to figure out what I'm going to make for dinners! 

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited October 2014

    interesting video on male breast cancer! Pink & Blue; http://youtu.be/DXGhslH905s

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited October 2014

    Thanks for posting JB.  I heard Peter Devereaux (the Marine towards the beginning) speak at a BC Mets seminar last year.  Very moving.  Sorry to see he's gone.

  • missingmercury
    missingmercury Member Posts: 161
    edited October 2014

    Macatac, love that pic.  Not a cat person, but I have that pic, only at the bottom it says 'before the zombies get you'.

    People forget this is not just a female issue.  We just have more breast tissue.

    ..and apparently I'm a didn't know it, poet.  lol.  Happy Hump Day!  Smile!

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