September 2014 Surgery Sisters
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I hear you EverForward! Going to ER today to see if they will take mine out. I only have one but it's still bugging me lol
Glad you are doing well enim! Wishing you speedy recovery!
Thinking iof you Mulligan and hoping you sail through this chemo! You haven't had an easy ride.
I'm guessing you won't see this minivan but the sentinel node wasn't bad that I had and the dye that surgeon injected happened while I was under Hoping all goes well for you and it'll soon be done.
Take care everyone!
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Here is my rant. I have only told a handful of close family and friends a bout anything going on with me. So the problem is I want to be a private person that takes care if things in my own, but on the other hand I am feeling a little alone and depressed. My husband helps me but emotionally I feel like he doesn't step it up. So now what? I have created this by not letting people in. So thankful I have you girls. I also agree, I HATE these drains!!
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I GOT MY DRAINS OUT TODAY!!! I GOT MY DRAINS OUT TODAY!!!! 19 days was too flipping LONG! Anyway, now they are out. Next week - which will be four weeks after BMX with TE's - I start getting my fills. Totally dreading it. Three surgeries and chemo have depleted my pain threshold to about zero! Anyway, ready to move onto the next step!
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Thats great! 3 weeks is to long!!
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Yay noonrider! So happy that your drains are out! The fills aren't too bad during the actual fill. Only a few times it was uncomfortable as the PS hit a nerve but otherwise I couldn't feel it. It was at night and the next day that I felt sore from the process. If you are in pain from it, let your PS know and have them prescribe more pain meds. You got this!
Smitty, I hear you, I was like that too. In fact, I wasn't going to even tell my family let alone my friends about my cancer but then I thought about it. If it happened to my sister and I found out later on, I would be so mad that she didn't let me know so that I could help her. I decided to tell my family and friends, at the very least to educate them about BS. I still don't tell them how I really feel, even my husband doesn't totally understand it all. All the emotions that runs through me in a given day, so I tend to retreat to myself and come here not so much to post but mostly read and know I'm not the only one going through this. Please feel free to rant/vent away here anytime.Everforward, I feel your pain. Ugh I just remember mine itched so bad it drove me nuts. I ended up putting dry gauze between the drains and my skin which seemed to help a little. Hope you get yours out soon.
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Everforward when is your next dr. appointment? I would want them out also after 20 days.
Hopefully it will be very soon.
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Everforward I hope they come out soon. I would think 20 days is plenty. But removing too early can lead to all kinds of problems.
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Hello ladies. I'm sorry I wasn't here earlier when Sandra said I'd pop in. My phone has been wonky in charging. I'll have to get it fixed. Sorry. I'm reading back posts to see if I can offer suggestions or help. If you have specific questions pm me. I'll be checking. I have had drains in as long as 5 weeks, fluid output over 100 for more than 3 weeks, plenty of sx, and a lot of info on weird things.
Much love.
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Hi Moon! Glad you are here. MarieJune is the sister I told you about. Her surgery was the 23rd so it would be helpful for you to go back a page or two and read her posts. You'll see why we've been so worried and why I wondered if she's having something like your lymph node problem. None of the rest of us have expertise in that area.
MarieJune, the cavalry has arrived.
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Ilove, are you doing better? I think we should wrap you in bubble-wrap to make sure!
Noon, you will be perfectly fine. Fills look scary but I never felt a thing and that's true for the majority of us. Remember, don't watch. Chat with someone across the room. Once you realize it's not going to hurt, you'll be able to relax. You may feel tight in the evening but that's a good thing. The added saline is expanding the TE and stretching your skin and muscle, just like it's supposed to. Take a Tylenol. You'll be fine in the morning.
Congrats to those of you who've gotten rid of some or all of your drains. No one on the face of the earth likes them but they are necessary. The best advice I can give is to guard the place where the drain enters your body. The skin around stitches gets more sore every day and it's pretty painful if there is an accidental pull on those stitches. The long tubes get in your way and more than one of us has trapped a tube underneath us while we shift in bed. That hurts-s-s-s-s. I was rushing to pull down my pants in the bathroom and didn't notice I'd also grabbed a drain tube. I'm sure they heard my YOWL in the next county. Do what you can to secure the site around the stitches. Putting a little sterile gauze there will help position the tube in the least painful place. You can tape down the first few inches to your skin so nothing moves. Also hold on to the drain tube to prevent accidental pulling when someone else is "milking" the tube before emptying the drain. Ask your doc to cut some the tube shorter if you are having problems. When you have your drains pinned to your surgical bra or hanging from a "necklace" of dental floss by safety pins, the rest of the tubing should not hang down so low that it gets caught on things.
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My good friend lost her sister to breast cancer last week. NOBODY knew she was sick!!! Five years ago she was diagnosed with DCIS stage 0. She had a lumpectomy, but no radiation. Chose to do some alternative medicine instead. That is fine. Everyone has to make a choice. Breast cancer was never mentioned by her to family members again. Last week she went into the hospital on Monday with difficulty breathing. She was unconscious on Tuesday and gone on Weds. None of her family knew that one year ago she was told she was at stage 4 and it was in her lungs. Her family is devastated that she fought this without their support. I know she had to have some reason for it. For them, her death was no different than if she'd had a tragic car accident, because it was so sudden. My friend is so sad her sister is gone and she didn't get to say goodbye.
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ugh Noonrider, how very sad. I hear stories like this and it puts my anxiety into overdrive. I just don't understand this disease and how quickly lives end. My father came into town to help take care of me. He lost his mother to BC when he was ten. He is reliving all the pain again just being around me.
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Yes my husband lost his previous wife to BC. She passed in 2001, we met in 2003. This has been so incredibly scary for him.
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Oh my, Noon. Scary is probably an understatement. Your poor husband.
And Ilove, how awful for your husband too.
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Flannery, thinking of you. Do you feel any better?
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Oh Noon - so sorry for your friends family. I guess she had her reasons and we all have to deal with this the way we feel is best but it is just too sad. Also so sorry for your husband - that must be really hard on him and you.
My stepson's girlfriend lost her mom to BC last week. She got diagnosed the same time as I did but she was Stage 4 at diagnoses. She knew she had a lump for years but didn't have insurance until this year with Obamacare but she never told anyone about the lump until she knew it was cancer. It was very tough to watch his girlfriend go through this and I felt guilty about my recovery. I went to the celebration of life on Saturday and everyone thought I was someone she met at the cancer center. I could tell everyone there thought I was dying and it was very strange but I felt I needed to be there for her (the daughter). I never met her mom.
On a positive note, I went back to work yesterday - worked for about 6 hours then I was tired so I came home - but in general I feel very good. My incisions look good and are very thin so I think my scaring is going to be minimal and are a huge improvement over the BMX incisions. I am definitely more comfortable on the squishy side! I was cleared to do some arm exercises yesterday and I have full range of movement without any pain so am very happy about that. My healing seems to be going very good.
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Noon, How sad!! I can't imagine how that would feel...
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sandra4611:
Nice of you to ask! Yes, the eternal discomfort of the lower edge of the TE, my ridiculous noodle-arm, and the much-detested underarm nerve pain DID actually improve a bit the last couple of days. Just in time for my first fill (250cc) this morning, after which I removed my second drain. After this stirring up of the meat-pocket I am a hurting puppy tonight, but with luck will be back to baseline tomorrow. I have another fill (probably my final one) scheduled for next week - I am hoping that the greater fluid volume will poof out the TE in a way that makes it sit more evenly in the pocket and get more comfortable. In the meantime there is no bra in the world that can make me comfortable, so I cycle through the drawer-full I have bought in an effort to avoid too much rubbing in a single spot. Of course none of that rubbing can be in any of the creepily numb areas, which would be way too easy! :~) All of this is really just an annoyance in that it prevents me from doing work I thought I would be doing more than a week ago - so mostly a mental stress versus real physical challenges. My issues are teensy compared to what many others are enduring, and I feel very blessed to have had a smooth process overall to this point.
noonrider:
The news of your friend's sister is just heartbreaking. I have a distant family member that made a similar choice to hide knowledge of a terminal illness, except that she left behind a devastated husband and several teenagers when she died abruptly. It was terrible and no one could understand the choice she made. I always wondered if she thought she would have more time and was planning to inform her loved ones, but the disease caught up with her more quickly than expected.
So much pain and loss in the world - I really treasure this little oasis of kindness, compassion, and support. Healing wishes to all of my September surgery peeps.
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Ilovecoasters:
I was very sorry to read of your pathology, accident, and the infection setback. Hopefully the extra antibiotics are doing their job and that is all under control at this point. Breast cancer just plain sucks and I wish that you could be spared this painful experience. Hopefully it helps to have your September friends send positive energy out into the world for you! I have not had chemo myself, but 2 colleagues with BC report that they breezed through it much more easily than they ever expected. My fingers are crossed that this will also be the case for you.
Before my pathology report was available and both chemo and rads were on the table, I spent a LOT of time spinning my mental and emotional wheels in a state of distress and resistance at the prospect. For me, the turning point was when I thought to ask myself if I would truly consider declining the standard-of-care treatments, whatever they turned out to be. When I realized that my answer was clearly no and I would do whatever needed to get done, this instantly slowed the frequency of the hamster-wheel in my head. In other words, I came to a degree of acceptance not by striving to lessen my fear of chemo/rads (though this angle is no doubt helpful for many), but simply realizing that NOT doing needed treatments was a much more frightening and unacceptable option for me. I was amazed at how quickly this released me from the cycle of distress - knowing the path I would choose made a lot of my earlier anxieties irrelevant. We are all different so this may not resonate with you at all, but it was such an epiphany for me that I thought I would mention it at least. Best wishes to you.
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Flannery, that's a deep realization about coming to acceptance. It reminded me of this, which I happened across recently at just the right moment:

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Does anyone know if I can take this glue off they put over my insicions? It has been 3 weeks since surgery and it is starting to itch. Sandra? ( and if so, how?)
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I just wanted to say I'm thinking about you sandra and hoping all goes well for you tomorrow! You deserve a break! I'm on the pink bus and bringing more of those margaritas and nachos that you like!

There's so much pain and suffering from bc and I for one didn't realize what my SIL went through 5 years ago until I started on the same path. This is not easy but we get through it and are stronger because of it. Take care everyone and hope today is a good one for you!
Sue
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Sue, I will join you on the bus for Sandra. Hope everything goes perfect this time.
I am feeling pretty good lots of bruising and some pain with that. The right breast is much larger than the left, but I know it is still swollen and I understand some of the transplanted fat will dissolve into the
body. Right now super happy with what I can see. Just praying the new incision will heal this time with no complications.
Anyone else joining us on the bus? There are several October ladies scheduled for tomorrow.
Hope everyone has a great weekend. I plan on walking the Houston Komen walk, or sit in the Westside Hospital tent if I don't feel I can walk that far.
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Flannery thank you for being so kind. Yes the head bruise is gone and I've had no further fainting. I saw the oncologist today. He was very concerned that the cancer on my one lymph node, although small at .4mm, was on the outside of the node. He has recommended six months of chemo and likely radiation followed by tamoxifen. I see the specialist for the radiation decision next week. My plastic surgeon said if radiation will follow he wants to take the expanders out and stop reconstruction. I am heartbroken. Next week is a consult for the chemo port along with chemo class. I just need to stay focused that my prognosis is excellent as long as I complete all treatment. I may need reminders.
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Mischief46 - the nurse took mine off at my first followup visit after surgery - I was about 5 days - she just peeled it off - ouch. BUT - I am not sure it is the same stuff as what I had. Have you been to see your surgeon or his nurse yet? I think I would call and asked. Mine was itchy also and I was glad to get it off.
On the bus for Sandra and anyone else who is going in - I am bringing fresh squeezed florida OJ and a bottle of vodka (for those who would like an additive)
jbdayton - how are you doing?
I am feeling pretty good here!! Working about 6 hours a day and then coming home and taking a little nap before dinner which is where I am headed shortly!!
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mischief I peeled mine off slowly, I thought it would hurt and was afraid I would accidentally peel off skin but it didn't hurt and ones that were stuck on to the dissolvable stitches I just cut them so that I wouldn't accidentally pull out my stitches, you can try a little bit of baby oil too to help loosen it up.
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It's been 3 days since my BMX. I went to see my PS today and he said everything looks good and one of my drains can come out Monday, he said it's positioned in a way that is poking out and bruising my skin. He said the drain was up too high up and should have been lower. I have some pain and soreness on my chest but the most pain is coming from my right armpit. I feel like i can be more active than i am right now but the meds keep me so so tired. I cried today just out of sadness, my twins keep crying and reaching for me to pick them up and I can't, they're 15 months now and both weigh over 20lbs and the doctors told me not to lift anything over 5lbs its a sad thing to have your babies cry for you day in and day out and you can hold them. I could go on and on about the complications I'm having but I'm sure you're all familiar with it all. Just letting you know how my world is looking post op.
I hope everyone who had surgeries this month recover swiftly and completely. Much love to u all!
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Enlm, you'll just have to sit on the floor or a sofa and hold them in your lap. Where there's a will, there's a way. Surround yourself with pillows so a little elbow or foot doesn't kick you in the wrong place. How much help do you have? When you have small children, you have an extra level of "I want to but I can't" to deal with. The temptation to do what you shouldn't is huge.
I know it's hard. Your body has been through an assault and what you are experiencing is probably normal, under the circumstances. I'm glad your doctor says you are doing fine at this point. You are still under the influence of general anesthesia so expect weird dreams and plenty of tears. Can you try to switch over to over the counter meds? Lots of women use Aleve, for instance, during the day and keep their prescription pain relief for bedtime. You'll feel better when you aren't so out of it. Is there an incision in the axilla? (arm pit) Sounds like your surgeon took some lymph nodes on your cancer side but not the other. Be really careful not to over do it. Perhaps some Lidocaine patches may help.
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So last night while I was tossing and turning, trying to stop the hamster wheel spinning in my head, I decided to make a virtual apron to wear on the virtual Pink Bus. Notice the HUGE pockets. They are there to hold all of you.

Then I decided I wanted an over the top ride in a Pink LIMO!!


Notice the stripper pole. Well, all this silliness is an attempt to chase away the nerves. Here's what I'm really feeling.
I'm first case in the morning and have a 5:45 a.m. showtime. Don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight either.
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Sandra. . Yeah I had 3 lymph nodes removed I'm gonna ask about that patch too! And yes I'm gonna have to improvise some kind of way to interact with the babies I'll give the sofa and pillows a try. That also sounds like a good idea with the aleve in the day and scripts at night. On another note, I'm praying that all goes well for you tomorrow and once and for all be done with surgeries! Lol love the pics especially that last one lol. ..I definitely can relate! Be strong my sister you will be in recovery before u know it! Much love : )
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