Are you 55 or younger on Tamoxifen, & having NEW joint pain?
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Tangandchris,
You may want to hold on to the Rx paperwork that lists joint pain as an SE. Take it to your next onc appointment and show it to doc. Hope your pain can somehow become more manageable. I managed mine by quitting tamoxifen.
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My MO is the same way. I just think some of these doctors don't see a lot of BC patients. I know mine sees all kinds of cancer patients. He is also young. Experience may be the key. Also, what options do we have?
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My mom's best friend is now taking this and she is also suffering from joint pain. She is around 53 years of age and was in good health before breast cancer. I think you're onto something...
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I am older than 55 and not taking tamoxifen but any doctor who tells you that joint pain is not a side effect of blocking estrogen is full of crap. Plain and simple. Estrogen is what helps us with lubrication of all of our joints. While tamoxifen may have less people experience this side effect than those of us on an AI, it is still very plausible and likely that this side effect happens to some of you. Tell those doctors who doubt what you tell them that you don't pay them to call you a liar and that the ONLY thing that is different since getting joint pain is taking the tamoxifen. Doctors who poo poo your side effects should be fired. Period. They have no right to tell you it is all in your head or that it is not the drug if you tell them that it is. It is listed as a side effect. Just wanted to write in support.
BTW, Aromasin has caused me to cry almost every day since I started taking it due to severe joint pain so I feel ya...
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You may find this page on our site interesting: http://www.breastcancer.org/treatment/hormonal/se...
Medicines to avoid while taking tamoxifen
In the list below, the medications under the headings “Strong Inhibitors” and “Moderate Inhibitors” can inhibit CYP2D6 and interfere with the effectiveness of tamoxifen. The medications under the heading “Not Inhibitors” do not block the CYP2D6 enzyme and will not interfere with tamoxifen treatment.
This list is incomplete and subject to change over time. Use it as a starting place and ask your doctor if any medications you are taking or that are recommended to you are compatible with tamoxifen.
Strong Inhibitors Generic Names Brand Names Bupropion Wellbutrin Fluoxetine Prozac Paroxetine Paxil Quinidine Cardioquin Moderate Inhibitors Generic Names Brand Names Duloxetine Cymbalta Sertraline Zoloft Diphenhydramine Benadryl Thioridazine Mellaril Amiodarone Cordarone Trazodone Desyrel Cimetidine Tagamet SSRIs and SNRIs That Are Not Inhibitors Generic Names Brand Names Venlavaxine Effexor Citalopram Celexa Escitalopram Lexapro Source: Flockhart DA. ©2008. Consortium on Breast Cancer Pharmacogenomics. Indiana University School of Medicine.
Side effects of tamoxifen
Tamoxifen's selective estrogen activation effects can cause some serious side effects, including blood clots, stroke, and endometrial cancer. If you and your doctor are considering tamoxifen as part of your treatment plan, tell your doctor if you smoke or have a history of blood clots or heart attack. If you're taking tamoxifen, call your doctor immediately if you have any of these symptoms:
- abnormal vaginal bleeding or discharge
- pain or pressure in the pelvis
- leg swelling or tenderness
- chest pain
- shortness of breath
- weakness, tingling, or numbness in your face, arm, or leg
- difficulty speaking or understanding
- vision problems
- dizziness
- sudden severe headache
The most common side effects of tamoxifen are:
- increased tumor or bone pain
- hot flashes
- nausea
- fatigue
- mood swings
- depression
- headache
- hair thinning
- constipation
- dry skin
- loss of libido
Hot flashes or night sweats from taking tamoxifen can be troubling. But a 2008 British study suggests that women who experienced hot flashes and night sweats while taking hormonal therapy medicine were less likely to have the breast cancer come back (recur). Knowing that this side effect might indicate a reduced risk of the cancer coming back may help some people stick with treatment despite the side effects.
Some women on tamoxifen have reported memory problems while taking the medicine. While no definitive results are available yet, the ongoing Co-STAR (Cognition in the Study of Tamoxifen and Raloxifene) trial is looking at the effects tamoxifen and Evista (chemical name: raloxifene), another SERM, have on memory and thinking.
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OK, I have been off of tamoxifen for a month now and the joint pain is no better, someone please tell me that it will stop!! If there is no hope I might just go jump off the nearest bridge. Almost serious.
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I'd been taking Tamoxifen since 2012, and like someone else mentioned - it was like the SE's from Neulasta for me. I played the off/on for a bit, stopped it before participating in DirtyGirl Mud Run so I'd have even a small chance of completing it. My MO strongly felt the Tamoxifen was causing my hip and leg pain. I had a hard time even walking up stairs. I've been off of it now for about 7 months for blood clotting related issues, and though the pain has not gone completely away, most of it has. Hang in there!
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I just turned 51, have no history of arthritis or joint pain, and since starting tamoxifen just over 2 weeks (yes, weeks) ago I feel like a little old lady, with stiffness/pain in my hips, fingers, wrists, ankles, and shoulders. This concerns me because my two favorite activities are music (I play a stringed instrument) and long-distance running.
I asked my oncologist about this and she was fairly noncommittal, saying the side effects often resolve after "some time" and urging me to stay on tamoxifen at least 3 months, until my next visit. I am seriously considering taking 2 weeks off tamoxifen to see if any of this goes away. If it came on within 2 weeks, maybe it will go away just as quickly. Also, I figure that if I'm supposed to take this stuff for 5 years, a couple of weeks' break isn't much in the grand scheme of things, maybe?
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Bratscher
Have you tried supplements ?
I too have joint issues from the Tamoxafin that have subsided over time but the vitamins have helped the most.
Here is what I take:
Glucosmaine
Bromelin
Omega 3
Vit d.
They take a while to kick in but they do work!
Good luck
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Shoppygirl, I take glucosamine/chondroitin, also vitamin D + calcium. Also, since I have osteoporosis, I take fosamax once a week. Despite all this, I have joint pain that just appeared out of nowhere since I started tamoxifen 16 days ago.
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i started on arimidex and after three days couldnt pick a kettle up was on so much pain I stick it for two years then exemerstane not much different then letrozole took me to my five years I've wished them away hoping it would all stop eventually my onc discharged me eleven days ago and said now they have decided we have to carry on for another five years and sent me out on tamoxifen now on top of all the pain im having bad headaches and dizziness going to see gp tom as the hospital don't want to know now sandy
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