MIDDLE-AGED WOMEN 40-60ish

Options
19559569589609611064

Comments

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2014

    Thank you!  I'm home. Everything went well. Kind of sore but just popped some meds so should be easing off soon.  

  • missingmercury
    missingmercury Member Posts: 161
    edited September 2014

    Hello, just found this thread.  I am right in the middle age wise and just freshly divorced and living on my own when I was diagnosed in February.  My rap sheet is below.  Looks like a dog lover thread also and I am all over that.  Kids are graduating college.  My job is supportive and can't fire me, but since I miss work intermittently, I am juggling bills.  One daughter is going to college close and that is nice.  The other two are not close and that sucks.

    I didn't read through past threads, just figured I would jump in.  Great to meet you all.

  • Mulligan
    Mulligan Member Posts: 205
    edited September 2014

    Glad to hear you are home and well Glennie!

    Welcome missingmercury! It does look like a dog lover thread doesn't it? :)

  • wambles
    wambles Member Posts: 67
    edited September 2014

    Hope you heal well and super fast Glennie xx

  • barsco1963
    barsco1963 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited September 2014

    welcome missingmercury! Glad you found us. The middies are a great group of supportive, encouraging women - no matter what the circumstance or what the hour.

    glennie - glad to hear all went well. Keep those meds handy. Wishing you a speedy recovery.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2014

    thanks for all the well-wishes, everyone!  I'm hanging in with help from friends and neighbors bringing food and walking the dog.  Keeping on schedule with pain meds and drinking lots!

    Welcome missingmercury!  Join our dog-loving party over here!

  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited October 2014

    glennie - so glad you are hanging in there and have friends to help!  Enjoy the help and take care!

    missingmercury - I just joined this thread recently, too and love all the dog avatars, too!  

    Anyone have suggestions on the best way to keep a good attitude at work despite a lot of negativity?  I really want to keep my life in perspective and not let work affect my thoughts and moods so much, but I'm having a hard time.  I want to not care about it so much and I want to be able to let it go and not let it bother me when other people don't do what they should or are very negative, but I can't seem to control that knee jerk reaction of being irritated.   I try to be positive, keep to myself and tune the rest out, but then it's hard to stay that way.  It seems like every time I try to be sociable so I don't feel like a complete loner, the next thing I know I'm being negative, too because pretty much if someone is speaking there, they are saying something negative.   I mean really....this is a part-time job, why oh why do I let it drive me crazy?  I wish I didn't have to work, but we need the income.  I'd look for something else, but I actually really like the work I do there and they are really accommodating with my hours.  I believe I would have a really hard time finding that someplace else.   Argh.

  • missingmercury
    missingmercury Member Posts: 161
    edited October 2014

    I got my dog Oreo a few weeks before diagnosed.  I don't know what I would have done if I came home to an empty apartment instead of her to hug.  She's an older dog that needed a home.

  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited October 2014

    Mel147--keeping a positive attitude in a negative workplace is a hard job.  Can you put together a list of positive topic or comments you can use when someone is talking negatively?  A negative attitude is so contagious and so hard to protect yourself from.  The knee jerk irritation reaction is hard to stop, I try to recognize it, acknowledge it, and then move on to something else, preferably something positive.  

    missingmercury--I wouldn't have gotten through the whole bc thing without the dogs I had at the time, and love coming home to the enthusiastic welcome my Silly Sadie always has for me!  

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited October 2014


    Mel:  a negative work place is so hard to deal with. As NativeMainer said,,, try to just acknowlege it, and then move on to a more positive topic.  It's a hard thing to fight. I had that with my last job too. Some people just like to dwell in the negative and it's hard to get them to see the bright side.

  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited October 2014

    NativeMainer and glennie - thanks for the pep talk!  Your advice is good!  I did better today...went in determined to see the bright side of things and focus on the positive.  I did play my music, which seems to help.  I also made sure to thank some co-workers who helped out with a few things and complimented the one co-worker on something she did that was really good.  I think if I can focus on some of the things that are being done well there then it will be good for me and everyone else.  

    I'm excited to be going to an all day retreat tomorrow on the Enneagram.  Has anyone heard of it?  It describes 9 different personality types.  I've taken a few different free tests online, but seem to keep coming up tied between two types so I will be curious to see what I learn about it tomorrow.  Have a good night everyone!

  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited October 2014

    Mel,

    I've done the test before for a grad level conflict resolution class. I discovered that I'm a different personality type at work than I am at home or socially. Maybe this is why you have two types? My answers to the questions would change based on whether the situation was a work setting or family setting.

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited October 2014

    Oooh, prepare yourself for my opinion that may be not be P.C.:

    Yesterday, the world seemed to be dipped in pink.  I am forever grateful for the support, love and attention that this hideous disease gets in October. I am very pleased and proud to participate in so many events for my sisters and bring hope and assistance to others who have been effected by breast cancer.
    BUT
    I have to admit, it also makes me a bit uncomfortable.  ...
    There are SO many other cancers out there that do not get the massive support breast cancer does.  I know people, younger women, with ovarian and lung cancer.  Do they feel the 'world' is not behind their disease? That  the world cares more about the breast cancer survivors? Are they not one of the 'cool kids'?

    Last night when I showered, I reached for my shampoo bottle and for the first time I noticed the large pink ribbon on the bottle's label.  I read the fine print to see if the ribbon meant donations were being made to a breast cancer charity.  Nope.  Just a way to sell the product ( another rant in the making) , Then I realized I've never seen a product with a purple ribbon for pancreatic cancer, or a downtown draping itself in gold for childhood cancer.

    Cancer is an equal opportunity disease.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited October 2014


    Mel: let us know how the retreat goes. Poppy has an interesting point, that you could be different at home than at work. Makes sense to me.

    jbok:  with you.  BC gets too much and other cancers not enough. Let's have some serious awareness out there for some of the others too.  And stop pinking every freakin' product!

  • missingmercury
    missingmercury Member Posts: 161
    edited October 2014

    jbok, I have run into that issue.  I was diagnosed with crohns disease in the mid 2000's and had major surgery and a third of my large intestine removed.  I am on the committee for the area walk every year.  I have to beg at work for a little $200 donation, which is still appreciated, but the company automatically donates to BC every year and lets people do in work fundraisers.  They would not even let me do a in work fundraiser as crohns was not one of their regular listed charities.  It was frustrating.  That is why ALS did the ice bucket thing.  A way to fundraise since they were not really getting attention and funds otherwise.  I do appreciate the benefits of research and donations to BC, but it points out how it could help other cancers and diseases.

    There is my rant.  lol

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited October 2014

    has anyone had there reconstruction surgery yet?  I think I'm looking at December for a bilateral with lat flap.   I was told to expect to have drains for up to 3 weeks.  Was is a similar recovery to the Bmx? 

  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited October 2014

    PoppyK and Glennie - The retreat today was really good!  Poppyk I think you are correct and I am different types depending on whether I am at home or work.  It really was fascinating today...I realized I have a lot more to learn.  The gentleman who gave the retreat stayed later with me and talking to me about it and read about the two types I was so close on to try to help pinpoint which one is the more dominant one.  It's interesting because the two I was deciding between are two that the book says are very similar and I think he called them sister types or something like that.  Funny part...one of the deciding factors between the two was the fact that I allow my house to be messy.  He said the "perfectionist Type 1 would never stand for that."  Ha, ha!  I also think I figured out what type one of my co-workers is...perhaps that will make things easier at work if I can figure some of the people out.

    missingmercury - Wow - that stinks that your work wouldn't let you do a fundraiser for crohns.  I understand that places can't accommodate every charity, but I wonder how they decide who to allow.  

    jbok - I opted not to do reconstruction so I don't have any info for you but best wishes with your surgery in December!

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited October 2014

    jbok - pop over to the Exchange thread.  Great discussions & answers.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2014

    Bokland, no recon here either, so I can't help I am afraid. I assume you are planning lat flap + silicone?

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2014

    Tuesday I saw my onc, who happily gave me the all-clear. Wednesday night, I woke up at 3AM, with a horrific pain in my right hip. After an hour of this, I got up to get some ibuprofen, and found that I could barely walk. In the morning, after a few hours of fitful sleep, I called one of my docs, who told me to get x-rays immediately. Well, after an anxiety-laden couple of hours at the hospital, the conclusion is that there is nothing wrong with my hip, except some arthritis and tiny calcifications (apparently a side effect of inflammation, in turn caused by the arthritis).

    So I was talking to the doc a bit, she is my surgeon's assistant. We were talking about how the pain was probably muscular and caused by my terrible back somehow. I mentioned that it also didn't help that I am not allowed to sleep on my right side (the side where they took 22 lymph nodes). She looks confused. So I explain that she had given me this instruction after surgery. She then tells me that it was only supposed to be for a month. She never told me that and she never gave me the go-ahead to sleep on my right. I did ask my onc last year, if I could start sleeping on the right, and he also told me not to. So for 3 years, I have been sleeping badly in weird positions, scared of rolling on to my right side. I guess this also means that I no longer need to keep the right arm elevated at night?

  • missingmercury
    missingmercury Member Posts: 161
    edited October 2014

    Mel147 and Momine, I am thinking about not doing recon.  They made the decision to not start it when they did my bmx and talk about doing it next year.  I might change my mind, but am not sure.  Do you wear prosthetics?  I don't have mine yet.

    Momine, I have had that also.  I tell my onc I am still not doing something and she looks confused and says, 'no, you can do that now.'  Of course she says I can get blood pressure done on my left arm now, but it hurts like crazy.

  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited October 2014

    Mel--Sounds like
    you're getting the workplace negativity thing under control!Good for you!Those personality things are fun to do, aren't they?

    Jbokland--I hate the
    whole Pinktober thing, not so much because other cancers also deserve
    attention, but because I hate the expectation that I should be marching for
    free mammograms, or some other "cancer warrior woman" activity.Why can't it be a private thing?I do not what to be known as the bc survivor,
    I want to be known as the good employee, the good friend, loving daughter,
    caring dog parent, homeowner, etc.Don't
    limit me to a diagnosis, please!

    Glennie--I think I
    am different at work, too, I think many people are.

    Mercury--I think
    many companies choose what causes to donate to based on what will get them the
    best advertising more than anything else.BC is easy to identify with and gets companies lots of positive
    publicity.Let's face it, BC is
    "sexier" than Chrohn's disease.

    Jbokland--I had
    bilateral DIEP recon, the recovery was absolutely longer and harder than the
    mastectomy.I had one of the 4 drains
    for almost 3 months, but that was because of the radiation damage done in that
    area.

    Mercury--I chose to
    wait a year after mastectomy before recon.I had the mastectomy due to complications from rads, and needed a break
    from surgeries and infections and complications.I used a prosthesis during that time.People could not tell that I had a mastectomy
    and was using a prosthesis. I entertained not getting a recon, but with one DDD
    boob and one missing, I was having too much back and neck pain and decided to
    take the opportunity to get smaller breasts.Extra bonus, I don't need to wear a bra anymore!

  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited October 2014

    My PS told me that I may or may not need drains. Hoping not. I didn't have them when I had implants in 2004. I think the PINK thing is because a decent % of women will battle this disease and they seem to be getting younger. Everyone I've talked to has known someone with bc. The ACS could combine them I suppose.

  • macatacmv
    macatacmv Member Posts: 1,386
    edited October 2014

    Oh the pink crap..........

    Another note, why oh why, in every book or movie I read there is usually a woman who is dying or has died from BC. Last night a friend and I (from my BC support group) were at a movie and when they mentioned that the mom had BC we both cracked up because we had just been talking about how it is always in our face. We probably got some glares. 

    So I had my "procedure" on Tuesday. We picked up my new car and I got to sleep in it the whole way home. The next day I looked out the window and said oh, it has tinted windows? lol way to pay attention. So doc said he thinks he got it all, he thinks it is Basal Cell and if there are any surprises we will deal with them next week. 

    But I am dealing with some serious mouth pain. I get to go to the dentist today. I am soooo looking forward to the Novocaine. Now I know if I live to 120 I would still be considered middle aged, but my body seems to be "decaying" at a faster rate these days. 

    I only had a lx, but was prescribed a prosthesis because the sizes ended up very different. But since I have lost weight they seem to have evened back out. Seems like my body is always changing. 

    I get it about the docs not realizing how they have to spell stuff out for us. I have found that I have refined my question asking to be very specific. I still think all docs should have to undergo their own "procedures" to get what we go through. 

    glennie, glad you got through your surgery on Monday and hope you are healing well.

    good luck everyone making decisions about recon!

    momine, glad it was just pesky arthritis. no fun, but better than it coulda been.

    mel, I am definitely two different personality types. And since I have stopped working (pretty much) the easier going side is showing up more. I don't feel like I have to do it all anymore or do it perfectly if I choose to do it. Part of me feels lazy and the other part feels like why did I drive myself so crazy for most of my life?

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited October 2014

    Mac:  glad the procedure is over. Hope the dentist goes well also. Mouth pain sucks.

    Think I'm having hot flashes already. Woke up last night and had to kick off the covers. GYN said it could start as soon as 3 days after surgery,, ,guess I'm right on target.   Good times.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited October 2014

    oooh hotflashs...sorry glennie 19. i hope they don't last too long or get too awful for you..

    Momine, I was told to sleep on my back for the first couple of weeks, no one said anything about what to do after that. i mostly sleep on unaffected side, always have. i try to elevate my arm if it is feeling especially bad, but i do sleep with the night garment on. but sometimes i just crave to lay down on that side, it's like my body knows it needs to, for alignment or something. now i am going to start asking questions about that.

  • macatacmv
    macatacmv Member Posts: 1,386
    edited October 2014

    yep hot flashes are fun! My DD thinks I am crazy to carry a little folding hand fan with me at all times. I embaress her every time I pull it out. But I am past caring what others think at this point. 

  • Mulligan
    Mulligan Member Posts: 205
    edited October 2014

    jbokland, I had recon immediately with my bilateral mastectomy and had 4 drains in total the first 2 came out in week 2 the last 2 I had for another week and half. That is probably the biggest pain (as in irritation) for me during the whole process. Once they came out it was such a relief. When I had my TE's replaced with implants, no drains were needed. Yay! As MinusTwo mentioned the Exchange thread is great. If I can answer any questions for you, I'd be happy to.

  • barsco1963
    barsco1963 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited October 2014

    momine - sucks that you woke with such a scare but glad it turned out to be arthritis rather than something more serious. Hopefully now that you have the go ahead to sleep however you want then it won't flare up so much.

    mac - glad that your procedure is over and done with - hoping there are no surprises to have to deal with.

  • chipmunk57
    chipmunk57 Member Posts: 58
    edited October 2014

    Last year at the start of October I went out and bought pink pens, pencils, Sharpies, highlighters, agenda, and utility knife. I even spray-painted my favourite wrench pink. I did this, not out of any great desire to help "the cause", but because I am the only woman working with 8 men and figured it was the easiest way to keep their hands off MY STUFF. Little did I know, or even suspect, that at the time I was carrying around a 3.6 cm. tumour in my right breast. One year ago today is the day I noticed the puckering on my breast that began my path through testing, diagnosis, surgery, chemo, and recovery. Thankful that I have been back at work for the last month, and all my pink things are still where they belong, especially my wrench!

    Have a great weekend everyone!

Categories