DIEP 2014
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LiLi I am glad you have your gallbladder surgery planned. I know exactly how you feel mine was surgery #5 for the year.
You and I both had healing issues but my gallbladder surgery (laparoscopic) healed quickly. Including the 2" incision he had to do through my new belly button. Assumed the infected gallbladder was interfering with my healing.
I just did another surgery today. Fat grafting. He made 5 holes in the abdomen scar to harvest fat. Don't know what he did to breast still in bandages and a surgical bra. He did not require belly compression. But the bruising is already pretty.
Good luck and quick healing for you this time. I will keep you in my prayers.
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Hi all,
Count me among those who doesn't want anything to do with pink-tober. I told my family last winter that the first object that shows up with pink ribbons on it is going straight out the window of the hospital room. LOL!
Well, my phase 1 free flap is one week from today, or exactly 6.5 days from now and my anxiety is in overdrive. Where did the summer go? It hit me at work today that this was going to be my last week and panic set in. Anyone who deals with anxiety issues can attest - it starts feeding on itself until you become completely useless. Thank heavens for Ativan.
The fun news came last Friday night when I saw a Periodontist who said my back molar on my right hand side needs to be pulled (a root canal from eons ago broke down) and that he needs to talk with my PS about my surgery next week. This should be fun. Doc gave me his home and cell numbers to pass along, but when I followed up with the PS office today, PS had been in surgery since 7am and did not have a chance to get the message and make the call. As if my stress level isn't already through the roof - now I am not even sure if my surgery is going to get cancelled over a tooth issue. Hoping to hear something tomorrow. Best case scenario I was given is that they may be willing to up my antibiotics and go ahead with the surgery and then I can have the blasted tooth pulled while I am out on recovery. Heres hoping that is the case - I am really ready to have this next phase over with.
Oddly, I had no, none, zip, nada stress leading up to my BMX. It was what it was, it was scheduled, and it happened. For some reason, I can't seem to get back to that place of contentment (resignation? peace?) that I had leading up to it. I don't know why reconstruction feels so much different, but I am just as grateful as I can be to read through all of your posts and see what all of us are dealing with as we move through this process. If only I could access the message boards from work when I start to panic. LOL!
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jbdayton, sounds like you has quite the procedure today. Heres hoping you are able to get lots of rest this week!
Debiann - thinking about you tonight and hoping all went smoothly and without incident. Check back in when you are able and let us know how you are doing!
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Good morning! Just catching up with all the posts. Busy place! Got all my diagnostic testing done yesterday for the lump I found and initial thoughts from the radiologist was are necrosis or scar tissue (based on Mammo and US). I also had a breast MRI which I was due post treatment anyway and will get the reports from all three later this week. Question. I know the protocol varies between oncologists but do any of you have annual diagnostic testing such as breast MRI or just mammo? Yesterday was a really hard day being at the hospital where everything went down with the biopsy and all the diagnostic testing last year for the cancer. Plus there was poor communication between cancer center and hospital about what was supposed to be done.Orders were cancelled, reordered, phone calls between nurses... I was there for 5 hours for 3 pretty short tests....had to be ultrasound and mammo'd twice. The radiologist came in to do the second ultrasound. The tech that did the mammo was not very warm. I got tearful during the procedure and I felt so mad at myself for getting emotional. And then she was so flat and un empathetic. Just chirped out orders, arm here, turn your head, hold your breath. I was tearful and she didn't acknowledge or even offer a tissue. She is lucky I didn't break out a can of whoop ass after I regained my composure, because sometimes after the tears comes some underlying anger about having to deal with this *&^%. Everyone else was amazing so chalked it up to perhaps her inexperience, or maybe just incapacity to understand what an upsetting thing it is to go through all of that again with a lump after having cancer and to have such mass confusion on top of it as to what should be done. Anyway, thanks for the encouraging posts and inquires. Will keep you posted on what I find out on the MRI and final reports.
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Janet M/Marty your descriptions of inner warrior hood and your reflections really moved me. So well written. I can relate to much of what was shared. From what I've read the last few days on the forum there are many of us who are at a point where inner warrior has laid down her sword and trying to figure out how it all connects/comes back together. Reading your posts are encouraging to know that "this too" is temporary and we will come out the other end somehow with a new or renewed sense of self.
SMD3 I'm sorry you are in the 3/4 week slump. Lots of people have reported going through this sucky time but it does get better. There is this unexpected corner one turns and all the sudden a little more energy, feel better, etc. But beware the slump can return. It is an up and down process so it seems. A support group might help. The ones I've been to, there have been no judgement re-tears and emotions in fact quite common from what I have experienced. I have at times been one of those gals at the group who has been tearful and greatly benefited from others around me, complete strangers (often who become new friends) offering love and encouragement as they have walked in the fire too and get it. I hope you find some relief, comfort, and rest. Also something I found that helped and maybe it will help you too was to reach out to friends and family. Get a date or two on the calendar (whether you feel like it or not) to walk with a friend, lunch, just get out, connect and do something nice for yourself.
JMB I am sorry you are going through a rough time. Your so right, you do fall off folks radar, life goes on, and we are often left wondering for ourselves, what next? I personally have had trouble moving forward, feeling a bit stuck, pondering many of the deeper questions in life. Been reading alot about being in the moment. Incorporating mediation hoping this will help some. I REALLY want to be more in the moment and enjoy and be more mindful of the gifts I've been given in life. Been doing alot of strappin' on the boots (to get through the mud) and pulling up the big girl panties of recent.
Thank goodness for this forum. P.S don't know of anyone who has had the ab scar revision but surely someone has on this board.
Stinkiesissie, lol about your name. On a more sober note, I am sorry for all the loss and difficulties in your family. You all have endured a lot. I am glad you have joined on this forum for sharing. You are a delightful addition.
Goldie my tummy is numb where gyno surgery was years ago and decreased sensation in some places on the ab scar. Total numb in most places on reconstructed breast and back of arm. Hope some more sensation comes back for you. Me too. I get pins and needles feelings sometimes in places...Have you heard from Lemon, our other cinco girl?
Norita welcome!
Teacher I love that you are sharing with a potential DIEP patient. Paying it forward. Pretty awesome and helpful. You have a good heart.
How is the seroma?
LAStar glad you have a date and totally understandable about the mixed feeling. We are all here for you and glad you are posting! Where are you having your DIEP?
Lisa, I am sorry you've been dealing with the gallbladder situation. You have had a lot of surgeries. Hoping that Friday will finally put a stop to your pain and you will be able to move forward with your healing and be comfortable again. Will be thinking about you!
Pzercher sounds like you and I were up to the same thing yesterday. Surreal is such a good description of that experience. Will be anxious to hear about your appointment on Friday with P.S. and stage 2. And amen to letting our emotions be what they are-I say let it hang out, it is what it is right? I like to call it letting my freak flag fly. LOL! Stuffing all that stuff down sure doesn't do any good. Your posts always bring a smile to my face. I love how you keep your humor, even in the muckiness...And no dancing in the O.R. No no. AS if. And I can't do pink anymore. Used to love the color but now, no bueno.
Jbdayton thanks for the update! Glad you are doing well. Gentle healing to you sweet friend!
ChrisinPA good grief, what a blow about the tooth on top of everything else you have going on. I hope they can make that all work with your surgery and getting the tooth taken care of..The anxiety can be debilitating leading up to the surgery. I tried really hard to fill up my days with stuff so that I didn't have as much time to worry. I can't say it elevated the anxiety completely but helped some. That and the meds. Hang in there and keep posted. We are all here to support and encourage. Anxiety seems like pretty common thing leading up to surgery. Let us know what happens with the coordination of everything. Praying they can keep surgery date!
Loving, healing prayers to our August/Sept friends who have had or getting ready to have surgery.
Take care everyone and sorry for the long post. I enjoy reading everyones insights and stories. This place is such a blessing.
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ChrisinPA: Hang in there! I had two surgeries canceled while I was literally gowned up and ready to go into the OR. REally hoping this doesn't happen to you. But I can also say this distance down the road that in the bigger scheme of things, all turned out okay. It was unbearable to wait, but you also have to trust your doctors and know they are making absolutely the best decision for you.
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smd, the three week slump is so normal. I bet by next week at this time you will be telling us how much better you feel, I hope. Everybody has their own timeline, but most of us had a bit of depression around the 3 to 4 week mark. Hang in there.
JMB, I know what you mean. I can't believe I will be going back for round three soon, but it is sorely needed. At least you know what to expect with the lipo. I also will be having my scar revised, but I can't say how it will feel. I can't imagine anything near what we felt at stage 1. You are just a few days away from being done with all this.
Teacher, you PS must be proud of your result if he is asking you to do show and tell. I would be doing a jig!!!! Let us know how that goes. I am assuming your lump has resolved itself? I have had 6 ultrasound treatments for tightness without much success, but I just read that they are supposed to massage and release the tissue while it is still warm from the ultrasound, and they have not been doing that. UGH.
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I just read the last few days of posts and feel so much better about my mixed feelings about October and the whole "warrior" discussion!People say, "You are one strong woman" and my response is always, "You would be, too." Because there isn't really any other option! I have a husband, two small kids and a full time job. If I curl up into a little ball, well, I just can't. As written here recently, even if you AREN'T strong, you PRETEND to be! What a game. But, there is that saying, "fake it till you make it," and sometimes I think that's what I do. I just act like it's okay...and usually it is. But, yes, as others have said, it gets tiresome. Friday night for example, I went out on the town with my friends and we stayed in a hotel. Well, after many glasses of wine, I blubbered like a big baby into the wee hours about how scared I am of surgery (it's this Friday) and of being just plain tired of doing this! In the end, I actually think all that crying and venting did give me some physical and emotional release.
As for October, last year I was out on medical leave during October, so I was out and about and had stopped wearing my wig. I had very, very short white/gray hair. I felt like everytime I walked into Starbucks, people would look at some sign for BC and then at me, then at the sign, then at me thinking, oh, there's a real life breast cancer lady!!! Needless to say, last year I pretty much hated the whole pink-tober thing. This year I am a little less irritated as now I blend and don't feel the stares anymore. But, I am with those whose favorite color was once pink. Not so much anymore.
So, my surgery is on Friday. They are STILL figuring out my insurance. I had my pre-op appt last Monday where I presented the insurance authorization forms saying they seemed questionable. I was assured they were fine by the "insurance coordinator." The next day, the office manager called to say they were in fact not fine and it was being looked into. It has taken until today for it to supposedly be fine, but I am still waiting on one last call for confirmation. The office manager was very good about it though thankfully. She said it was their offices fault and had no excuses and was thankful that I was acting as my own advocate. Yet, had she not been looking at something else that made her look at my forms, I might be some big insurance debate later. As if this was not enough, the day of my pre-op appt they also failed to tell me to stop taking Tamoxifen. On this thread, I learned that most people are taken off of it. So, I called back to ask when I realized they had not told me to stop and they said, "Oh yes, you should stop." Really? That's it? What if I hadn't known? So, these two things that I inquired about on my own, are making me think what else are they forgetting to tell me?!!?!? I'm anxious enough, I don't need more things to doubt. My mind is just racing now of things I never asked them or things they didn't tell me. Ugh!!
I'm very anxious. Thankfully, I am working through Thursday and have my kids and husband to keep my mind busy. As nervous as I am, I cannot wait to wake up after surgery just so I can be done with the waiting.
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Okay, got the call that the insurance is all set....so now I can just be stressed about the actual surgery. -
sky78, happy to see they cleared up the insurance stuff! Good luck on Friday! Everyone will be thinking of you and wishing you well.
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I am so grateful for all your support! I am feeling uneasy about this surgery....I don't know why?
Thank you jbdayton for your kind words always! You are just recovering from your own surgery....and yet you are selfless with prayers for others! I am praying for your fast recovery!
GeorgieGirl- Some techs just don't get it!
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Goldie - I still have the lump but am working around it. My PS said it will take time. I may need another procedure but won't know til January. 😢 I'm not having any more ultrasound treatments but still massage.
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MsW, I've been meaning to tell you that I love your summary. It has put me at ease a couple times now!
Thanks, Sarah!
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GeorgieGirl and pzercher, thank you for the kind words. I called Monday and yesterday, and my surgeon had not had a chance to followup with the periodontist, so surgery is still in question. The stress is going to be worse than the surgery. :-)
Sky78 - I hear you. I am scheduled for Monday and am also way beyond stressed. If nothing else, please keep in mind that federal law here in the US mandates that if you are indicated for BC surgery, you are mandated for reconstruction. I asked my local PS if DIEP/Flap could be considered "elective/cosmetic" or "excessive" and he said that there was no such thing - reconstruction after MX is just reconstruction - and all insurance has to cover it. Let them work through what paperwork/forms to fill out and don't let that stress you out. Remember, your only job is to keep breathing - their job is to get you through this and make you whole again. My thoughts and prayers will be with you this weekend.
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Second day after surgery, still feeling like I was hit by a bus, but I do think I'll feel a little better today. They took my Iv out this morning. Haven't needed any pain meds since yesterday afternoon, itchy and.sore, but didn't.like the grogginess. Biggest problem is numb right foot, said it comes from nerve compression during positioning in surgery. Ultrasound of leg last night.was.good so they might have someone from PT .see me today.
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debiann, Hang in there! Don't be afraid to go back on the pain meds if you need to. I went off too soon, and regretted it. My BS and PS lectured me, and I started taking it again. I had horrible itchiness in the hospital. My BS, who I love, said it was probably the hospital gown. I knew it couldn't be that bad, and all over my body, so I said something to my PS when she came in. She said it was an allergic reaction to the morphine, gave me Benadryl, and I was all better. Hope the numbness in your foot goes away soon. That would be annoying.
sky78, I noticed you aren't on the surgery list. If you want me to add you, just PM me your info. Sorry if you sent it already and I missed it. Glad you got the insurance straightened out. My insurance seems to take forever to give approval. It can be frustrating. Hopefully there won't be anymore surprises.
Wanted to share with you all... Remember how a few months ago, I told you about my friend's 14 year old daughter who was diagnosed with a rare liver cancer that is never seen in children? Well, she is all healed up and cancer free, and I got to see her play volleyball last night. She was also chosen as a homecoming attendant at her high school.
So fun to see them smiling. She has her three month scans in October. I guess the doctors told them it's not if it comes back, but when, but for now, it is nice to see her playing volleyball and enjoying being a teenager.
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Jmb -- hopefully your friend's daughter will be cancer free for many, many years, and if it does come back, there will be new treatments for her.
I've been following along the boards, but not posting too much. Will be more focused on this process now, as I have my next surgery a week from today -- some lipofilling/fat grafting and a couple of scar revisions.
I've been off tamox for a week now and am certainly enjoying not dealing with hot flashes!
Have a good day everyone,
Ridley
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Jmb - love the new profile pic! Too cute. I wonder if now might be the time to start soliciting someone to start a DIEP 2015 thread? Just so that next year's gals will have a place to be and one to refer back to? You have done such a great job this year. Just thought you might want a break and I am seeing names on the list for 2015. Year end will be here before we know it.
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jmb - gorgeous
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JMB - sure, you can add me. 10/3 - Bilateral Stage 1 DIEP, Dr. Hijjawi in WI. Also, I agree, that's a beautiful picture! You are adorable and I love your hair!So, I think I did something dumb and was reading a different thread on these boards. I'm scared now of this whole boxy tummy problem and the pants falling down and just overall not liking the results in the tummy area. I have read about the "swelly belly" on this thread. Is it really that bad? Are you still glad you did the DIEP? I mean, my choices are suffering through an implant on the radiated side, the DIEP, or going flat. I thought DIEP was the way to go, but am I trading one problem for another???
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We have been talking a lot about support and wanted to share this link for online support and also some telephone support. My friend has used phone support and was complimentary of their services. This is a great website for resources too.
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Hi All ~ just checking in after catching up on a few days posts. There is so much good information being shared I feel uber-prepared for my surgery in 5 1/2 weeks.
As far as the pink-washing of October I still haven't fully worked through my feelings about the commercialization of BC...it's hard to kick the feeling that corporations are making money from people's suffering yet I know that there is some good that comes out of the awareness. Last year at this time I was on the down slope of 8 chemo treatments and the constant reminders every where I turned was annoying. I hope to find some balance on the subject at some point. This morning when I turned on the telly it was all over...the NBC logo is pink, the Today show logo is pink and every other commercial is about pink products, someone called it pink power. I'm not sure what the power is???
Georgie, so sorry to hear of your experience at the hospital during your round of testing. So frustrating when a lack of compassion creeps into the day...all this and one more thing puts you over the edge. Some people don't get it and never will but I say let the tears flow sister.
Peace and healing to everyone on this day.
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For all the gals in the NJ/NYC/CT metro area who are considering a DIEP flap or other autologous tissue reconstruction, or who want to meet Dr. Joshua Levine (one of the leading flap microsurgeons worldwide and a wonderful doctor) he is offering an informal information session along with dessert and refreshments on October 15th from 1-5pm at his office at 3 Columbus Circle, Manhatttan in recognition of Bra Day. To rsvp contact his office manager at Sandra@joshualevinemd.com This is the first time they are doing this, and I asked Sandra if she would like me to post it here in case there are women on the board who may be considering their options and may like to hear more about flap reconstruction.
I have been so pleased with the care I have received from Dr. Levine and would recommend hearing his point of view to anyone considering the DIEP or other flap procedure.
I had my stage 2 follow up visit today and everything is healing nicely. The "girls" look much improved and once the swelling goes down we can assess if more needs to be done. My ab incision still looks a bit wonky on the left side, so once the swelling goes down there too we can see if it is laying flat or if more needs to be done to get it to "behave".
Regarding the "warrior" discussion and needing to lay the sword down for a while, I just said to my husband today that is how I have been feeling, too. I am normally an energetic, ambitious person with strong fighting spirit and now I just feel....tired. I think when we endure so much even our warrior spirits need a break sometimes. I am telling myself it is not because I am not strong, it is because I am human.
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jmb, great photo!!! I liked the one on the beach too, even if it made me a little sun-hungry.
sky78, I agree -- I'm also worried about the swelly-belly thing. I wonder if it's a lymph drainage issue.
Hang in there, debiann!
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Sky hang in there! So happy to hear the insurance got sorted out. Before you know it, you will be done and on the other side of this and can start the healing process (whatever you decide to do). I would do the DIEP again even with some of the issues that popped up. I didn't have swellie belly but do have a new shape from under my breast to my pubic bone. It isn't a bad thing, I think I just need to get to a point where I can do some ab work to make the incision up look more toned. I lost a lot of core this last year. It is a process and I think to fully appreciate the results it takes a long time. Truly such a personal decision. I feel for you as you are trying to make sure you are doing what is the right choice for you.
Debiann glad you are feeling a little better today. Someone else posted about the itches from the morphine and benadryl to combat. I had a reaction to the morphine too...Maybe that what was causing your itch?
JBM Looking beautiful my friend! An thank you for sharing the awesome news about your friends daughter. Such a blessing!
MEG2 thanks!
Headed to the hospital this afternoon to pick up the cds and written reports from Mondays testing. It takes awhile for the oncologist office to get info back to the patient so I thought I'd just sashay down there to medical records and read my own reports.. I need them anyway for my giant medical binder.
Jerseymom, amen sister. Warrior=Tired! That is one word that speaks volumes to me right now. So thankful for you amazing ladies.
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Feeling better today, but the foot is still numb. They had a neurologist check it out. He said its coming from a compressed nerve from the boots they put on you in surgery. It may resolve on its own or I may need some PT. Thaks for the positive thoughts!
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sky78 - Even though I'm not 100 % thrilled with my tummy area, I would still do the DIEP again in an instant. At first I looked like a box of cereal cause my waist lost all definition. Then when it settled down I look like a Ken doll. Now I'm normal from the side, but from the front I still look a bit spongebob-ish. However - one year post surgery - and I'm still a work in progress.
I'm seeing my PS in a few weeks and he's going to take away my dog ears and (hopefully) give me back a waist. Once the initial surgery is done, there is lots of chances for tweaking and tune-ups. So don't get freaked out about all the possibilities of swelling and weirdness. From all I've read and seen, the final result is usually very good.
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Hello ladies,
My exchange is scheduled for 12/2/14. Currently it's for implants. I've been researching and reading up about the DIEP procedure and I'm leaning toward this option. I have another consult with my PS on Monday to see if I'm still eligible. My main concern is the pain. Is it really bad? How long is the hospital stay?? Ive been researching and everything says 4 days. How long was the surgery? I Had a full hysto done in June - abdominally. That pain was bad. For those that have experienced it, would you say the pain is similar? How was it getting up? Chest pain and abdominal all at once. How did you sleep? I have sooo many questions. Any info you can provide will be helpful.
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Thanks everyone. I thought a new picture would cheer me up.
sky78, I didn't have any trouble with pants falling down. I did have some swelly belly, but the muffin top was gone, so I looked better than before. I don't regret it at all. I think implant issues sound a lot worse. My breasts are pretty awesome. Lol!
Welcome Lonnie! Some women say the pain wasn't very bad, and they go off pain meds before they even leave the hospital. For me, the pain was pretty bad, but manageable with Percocet. The surgery was 11 hours (I had a BMX with immediate DIEP reconstruction) and I was in the hospital for 4 days. I slept in my bed with tons of pillows propping me up, pillows under my knees and under each arm for support. No side or tummy sleeping allowed. I won't lie, the recovery was tough, but I didn't want to worry about needing to replace implants. (My BS said they have about a 10 year shelf life.) My breasts look amazing now... better than before, and I would do it all over again. Good luck with your decision.
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Sky - hands down, I'd do DIEP again. I have heart issues and got through the recovery fine.
Lonnie - 4 days, 8-11 hours for surgery. Pain is manageable. the belly was more an issue than the breasts because nerves had already been cut in the chest area. Getting in and out of bed is doable in the hospital. At first nurses help. Then you will be able to do it. At home, I had loads of pillows to help me almost sit up, pillows for arms and under knees. Getting in and out of bed at home was also manageable.
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