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Lilactulip
Lilactulip Member Posts: 6
edited October 2014 in Just Diagnosed

found out yesterday that I have IDC but that's is all I know.  They will schedule me for an MRI next week and then 6-8 weeks to get in to see my surgeon.  That seems so long.  

Emotionally,  I'm spent.  I feel like curling up in a ball.  I did read on here about calling the doctor for anti anxiety drugs which I did yesterday after my diagnosis.  Thank you for this site. I'm now in possession of .5 mg Lorazapam.  I just need to take it. 

Im usually such a positive person, but like others have said the beginning is terrifying.  I don't know what to expect, I'm a middle school secretary and don't know if I should quit my job, and then I think about my poor husband and family. . .too many thoughts and no answers.  

Thank you for everyone who has posted on this site with their experiences, I'll be doing a lot of reading.

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  • linzer
    linzer Member Posts: 164
    edited September 2014

    Lilac, so sorry you have to join us. You've found a very supportive group. I would ask to see an integrated team, if possible. That should include a surgeon, medical oncologist, and a radiation oncologist (if applicable). Unless you know for sure that you won't need chemo/radiation, it's a good idea to meet with the team prior to surgery. Some types of breast cancer, Her2 positive for example, benefit greatly from chemo before surgery (neo-adjuvant). Surgeons are not always up on the latest chemo protocols, and some are only available prior to surgery. It's better to have a solid plan in place before going right to surgery. Also, it was about one month from my diagnosis until treatment started. The docs assured me that it was okay to wait and that the cancer wasn't spreading like wildfire. I'm sure they will not make you wait any longer than is acceptable - however, it cannot hurt to ask. Also, if you are being held up just by the surgeon's available appts. try to find another who can meet sooner that may make you feel better. If you are going to that surgeon because he/she comes with rave reviews, then waiting is the right thing to do. I asked around for the first week after diagnosis (everyone has had or knows someone who has had breast cancer - unfortunately) and got a short list of about 10 names. I found 2 of them repeated often. I saw both of them and chose my team after that. Just something to think about. WHen you find out your stage/type etc. it will be more clear - if not come here and ask :)

    I teach, and I have not quit my job. It (and my family / friends) keeps me going. I take more time off than I'd like, but that's okay. It's so overwhelming at first, but once you get your official diagnosis and meet with the doctors, you will find yourself feeling a bit better. Treatments are tolerable and not life-stopping. Yes, you'll read about others who've had adverse reactions and major side effects and so on, but not everyone has them. I made it through 12 weeks of initial chemo, a lumpectomy and axillary dissection and I've not had a really bad day yet. It's kind of like the airplane thing - the news only reports on the negative. They don't go on the air every night and say "thousands of planes took of and landed succesfully today". So, while it's good to know and be informed of what can happen, it's bad to assume it will automatically be you.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited September 2014

    Hi Lilactulip, and welcome to Breastcancer.org. We're sorry you have to join us, but glad you found this great community for information and support.

    For those recently diagnosed with breast cancer there is a section in our main site called Breast Cancer 101, designed to help you sort through all of the information here and find what is more relevant to you right now. We encourage you to take a look and read and learn about your diagnosis, treatments, next steps, etc.

    We hope this helps. Please let us know how you're doing.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2014

    LilacTulip (hey, which one is it?)

    I'm so sorry for your recent diagnosis.  Cyber-hugs. 6-8 weeks does seem like a long time to me.  May I ask if you are in the US? Of course, I mean it sounds long if it's another 8 weeks after MRI, not so unusual if it will be 6 weeks from your initial visit. But I'm no doctor and I can't say how long it should be before you receive surgery.  It just seems unusual compared to what I've heard from others.  If you're the type I am, you can ask to get a copy of your biopsy results and MRI results next week.  

    The most important thing is not to borrow trouble.  This is a very treatable condition.  Certainly don't start thinking about quitting a job.  Many of us are able to work through treatment.  And you might be lucky enough to possibly schedule some treatments while on school breaks maybe? And you're going to want to go to work--it keeps you busy and keeps your mind of the situation.

    Also, not only are there many people on here with survival rates in the decades and dozens of years, but remember that most people are not on these boards - they're just out there going on with their lives.  Hopefully your docs will be able to encourage you more with the numbers when you get your next appointments.  You will see it on here over and over - the waiting is far and away the most difficult part.  The not-knowing is so difficult.

    Hang in there as best you can.  All the best to you.

  • Rosiesride
    Rosiesride Member Posts: 513
    edited September 2014

    Lilac...Linzer's advice is well taken...it was hard to understand which doctor was my head doctor...surgeon? MO?RO?...start asking for other names...waiting is the hardest part but taking charge of your own medical stuff at least makes you feel like you are not just sitting around waiting for others to tell you what will happen.

    Also, get a copy of your test that showed your IDC...I never went on a board like this in the beginning as it was all too overwhelming, but I did research my cancer...American Cancer society website and National cancer institute....i found BCO midway through my chemo....it is all doable and I rarely went to that " dark place" thinking about my own children ...20 year old twins and 26 year old son, my husband and sisters etc....just focus on getting your plan in place....I found it was better for me to be in control and take charge of my stuff....that was one huge change for me !...I know how hard waiting 6-8 weeks must be....be a squeaky wheel!!  Good luck and prayers for you as this is the suckiest part of the journey!! Rosie

  • Lilactulip
    Lilactulip Member Posts: 6
    edited September 2014

    Thank you everyone for your replies.  You are right about the waiting.  It sucks but until that MRI is done! The doctor wouldn't be able to see me so. I wait and I read everyone else's walk with this disease.

    I did start taking the anxiety meds and I have slept but then I wake up and feel like I am getting the diagnosis all over again.  There just this hollow feeling in the pit of my stomach and  I cry.  I'm trying to optimistic for my family (husband, 16 yr daughter, 19 yr old son)  and I've read your stories so in my heart I know there is hope but head won't shut up!!!

    My daughter graduates high school next year and would like to take a family trip to Disney World, I told her that would be a great trip for both of us.  Her for graduating, and me for be . . .  .maybe cancer free?

    I'm having a pity party today I think.  So much for being Pollyanna.  Also, I think someone asked me if I was in the US.  Yes, I am.  Midwest girl.

  • linzer
    linzer Member Posts: 164
    edited September 2014

    Lilac, I might question the team as to why the doc cannot see you until after the MRI. I have IDC and did not have one so I cannot say for sure as your case is different. I had my original pathology from my biopsy and saw my team with that information only though. Then, I had a CT scan and a bone scan along with a biopsy of my lymph node after seeing the docs. Just something to consider.  

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited September 2014


    I am sorry you find yourself among us....but glad you found us.  Can't you try another surgeon?  Waiting 6-8 weeks is ridiculous.  I was able to see a surgeon within a week or two.  The beginning is the hardest part.  It is hard to not let your mind wander in places you wish it wouldn't.  Hang in there!  I am also a Midwest girl!!!  Hugs!

  • Imheretoo
    Imheretoo Member Posts: 217
    edited September 2014

    Lilactulip,   Don't quit your job!!!     You are in a very very intolerably uncomfortable, (to say the least!!)  mind blowing part of this cancer trip, and believe me I know just what you are in the middle of, with all the long waiting to get to the very first step of treatment  and not knowing anything about your cancer other than it being an IDC.      But listen to my story.    (Not to bust in and superimpose my story on yours, of course, but because I think that the ending will give you something to put on the comfort side of the balance.)   My biopsy path report,(once the biopsy finally got done and the report finally arrived), said nothing but IDC.    Not one more drop of info that might suggest the tumor's aggressiveness, hormone sensitivity, the need to move rapidly or not, to perhaps do a chemotherapy first before surgery--- NOTHING.   ----Well- they did have one more piece of info-- that it appeared to be a fairly small tumor, seemingly 1.2 cm.      But the bump in my breast felt about twice that big to me, and I swore my underarm lymph nodes had always a dull achey heaviness and frequent sharp twinges.    I was told I'd get notified when it was my surgery time---and that notification seemed never to come.     Six weeks after the biopsy confirmation of cancer (and two and a half  months after the initial mammogram suggesting a very likely cancer), the only info I was getting about surgery and treatment was that the surgery list for the next 10 days was made up and I wasn't on the list.-   And my assigned surgeon was about to go on his three week summer vacation.     They did, during that waiting time, do a bunch of tests and scans looking for signs of distant metastases, but no doctor ever met with me to tell me the results of those tests.      When I finally got my surgeon's attention to ask about those test results, he told me that he hadn't even looked at them yet , because "after all, your surgery isn't going to be right away".     (That's when he told me about his vacation.)      So I spent those months in the state you are in now, knowing I just had to WAIT, and that there was absolutely nothing I could do that could speed things up, or anywhere else I could go to get faster or better attention.   (I live in Italy, by the way.)    Friends and family in the USA kept asking me why I didn't push and fight to get things moving, and this all increased my stress tremendously, making me feel somehow responsible, while at the same time I knew that I had absolutely no choice but to WAIT.    Inside me I felt convinced that I was going to end up needing chemotherapy (even bought a little cap that I thought might come in handy to cover my eventually -to-be-bald head...) and, I just "felt" that my cancer was going to end up being serious and high stage.     I spent lots of time just "feeling OK and accepting" about the "fact" that I had serious cancer (and not the "trivial" cut it out and pop a pill for 5 years kind that friends and family insisted that it "would certainly" turn out to be.)    I told everyone that their disneyland fantasy way of being "positive", and their insistence that I should think like that, did not make sense, and, in the absence of any real information,  was just being silly, not positive.    I said that I was actually very positive; a realistic positive in which I realized that at the moment I knew absolutely nothing about my cancer and my future, but that I was accepting of any possible outcome.     And I "acceptingly" fretted and went out of my mind with stress about the darn waiting and not knowing and maybe not doing something that ought to be quickly done, although deep down just felt sure  that I knew at least the direction the answer was going to take and it was not going to be fairy tale dance.     

    Well---  Turns out I was a dope.    Surgery date eventually came--got that thing OUT and ANALYZED.   Take a look at my signature line, Lilactulip, my full diagnosis and treatment plan is there.      Nodes clean, ER and PR Positive, HER-2 Neg, Stage Ia, Grade 2, Ki-67 (indicating percentage of tumor cells replicating) is just 7%.     NO NEED FOR CHEMO.     My probability of a reoccurrence , as long as I follow my simple therapy, is VERY low.     Excellent prognosis.    If you've got to have a cancer, this is the kind to have!!    So now I just need to get used to being accepting of the fact that this cancer thing I have just isn't that big a deal nor will it have a big influence on my life, and all I need to do is some radiotherapy and pop a little pill that causes, at worst, trivial minimal side effects.   (I'll tell you that the worst thing I feel now is a deep sadness and strong concern for all the friends I've made here who are having and will continue to have a rougher trip than mine)

    My point is, waiting without info is pure hell, but that doesn't mean that when the info comes it will be bad.     I'll be waiting along with you, wishing you strength and calm in this stressful time, and hoping and hoping and hoping that your cancer ends up being as easily treatable as mine is.    

  • jovigal
    jovigal Member Posts: 41
    edited September 2014

    Hi Lilac,

    Sorry you're here and hugs!  It will be two weeks on Wed since I got "the call".  I agree with other posters 6-8 weeks is a LONG time to wait.  I'm doing the post- biopsy, post MRI wait right now ( I have a follow up MRI/biopsy tomorrow because the 1st on saw more suspicious areas).  But I've already met with one surgeon, have a 2nd opinion surgeon appointment tomorrow and the following week meet with my oncology team.  They've also done my genealogy test.  I'm not saying all this to be braggy or "oh look I have a wonderful team"!  I'm saying this because I think it's important that you follow up and ask WHY they are waiting so long.  These last 2 weeks have been the worst of my life waiting and wondering and I can't imagine having to wait as long as they are telling you.  Please, keep us posted.  I hope you get some answers soon.

    I'm in the midwest too BTW.  Wisconsin :)

  • Lilactulip
    Lilactulip Member Posts: 6
    edited October 2014

    thank you all for your advice.  I had my MRI today and genetics counseling on Friday.  I am assuming next week I will meet with my surgeon .

    I am dreading finding out about my MRI results.  I just feel like they will tell me the cancer is everywhere and I don't know how I will cope.  I have been doing well this week going on like nothing has happened. 

    Imheretoo:  I also keep feeling twinges and heaviness that makes me think the worst.  

    I go between Pollyanna feelings to woe is me feelings. . .what a rollercoaster.  I have found out though in this short period of time that I have some wonderful prayer warriors and friends.  I love working at a Christian school where everyone lifts you up in prayer and loves on your children when their down.

  • Sunflowercat
    Sunflowercat Member Posts: 177
    edited October 2014

    lilac tulip, what you're feeling is totally normal and your wait isn't terribly excessive.  I had to wait a few weeks to see a surgeon after my diagnosis and then a few more for surgery.  It is completely normal to second guess everything and think of the worst.  You literally are in limbo and waiting is the worst part of being diagnosed.  While I expected and prepared for the worst, I was very fortunate that my outcome was better than I had expected.  Don't despair and definitely don't quit your job.  Just take your anti anxiety meds when you feel like it's too much to handle, breathe deep, be kind to your body by eating right and getting some exercise.  Surround yourself only with those who love and care for you.  And lean on all the lovely ladies here to help you through this rough time.  We all understand what you're going through.  I hope you get the answers you need soon.  

  • Pbrain
    Pbrain Member Posts: 863
    edited October 2014

    Lilac, you have my diagnosis date!  I'm two years out.  My advice, just pause.  Wait and definitely ask your breast surgeon to move up your appointment.  That was one of the most reassuring appointments I had in all of this.  She was so wonderful explaining all the options to me and letting me know this is a treatable disease.  She gave me three hours of her time the day after I was diagnosed.  It should be that way, and she/he should tell you about the team they've chosen for you so you can find out more info about those doctors.  You should be assigned a nurse navigator if your institution has them.  They'll help keep you on schedule with appointments and talk you off the ceiling.

    I'm glad you got the anti-anxiety meds.  I used them all through treatment, especially the MRI because I'm so claustrophobic.  They will help enormously.

    But for now, don't borrow trouble and keep remembering you might not have much disease at this point.  You might not even need to have chemo.  So try to stay positive.  We are all here and you'll get through this.  Much love!

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