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  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited September 2014

    ilytib-not the wrong thread at all.  Questions are our specialty!  Hope that you get some answers soon.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited September 2014

    Homemom, interesting that they said that about soy. I am curious though, how is soy in "everything." I can't think of any food I eat that has soy in it, other than soy sauce.

  • wambles
    wambles Member Posts: 67
    edited September 2014

    Hello ladies

    This is my 1st post so please bare with me. I was a member of the site some time ago, but lost contact details: Email etc, so this is a brand new profile (not that I participated much In the past, everyone seems so much more eloquent and this makes me shy)

    I'm 47 years young, and was diagnosed with grade 1, stage 1 IDC in the left breast in 2010. I had 2 lumpectomies, radiotherapy and was prescribed tamoxifen. I had awful side effects from the tamoxifen so after much soul searching I stopped taking it after a year.

    Fast forward to May this year, I found a lump right by the scarline of my lumpectomy. Unfortunately this turned out to be a recurrence, though at grade 2 this time. I have since had a double mastectomy with no reconstruction and am getting monthly zolodex shots so I'm able to take arimidex. An oophorectomy is in my near future.

    I am currently awaiting an appointment for an MRI as a recent bone scan showed a suspicious spot on my right hip. More waiting and wondering!

    Anyway as I said, this is my 1st post so apologies if its in the wrong place, and I do hope you're able to decipher my somewhat disjointed babbling. I hope to become confident enough to post often as I have read lots of threads on the site in the past and its clear that the support and information here is second to none.

    I hope everyone is having as good a day/night as possible

    I'm in the UK btw..

    Hugs.. W xx

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited September 2014

    Hi Wambles,

    Sorry you found yourself back in BCO. 

    You don't need to feel shy in posting at all, the members here are kind and helpful so we hope you feel comfortable in coming here often :-)

    You might like to check out the Recurrence Forum as another possible place to connect with others.

    Keep us posted on your journey

    Kind healing thoughts to you

    From the mods

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2014


    ilytib:  No apologies needed!  We just wanted to steer you to the best place for answers. I have lymphedema myself,but have only had it a few months. I'm no "expert", but there are many ladies on the lymphedema forum who, sadly, are "experts" and have helped me greatly!  So I hope they will help you out too.

    wambles:  welcome to our gang,, so sorry for your recurrence. Cancer sucks!  Waiting for tests sucks!!  ((HUGS))

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited September 2014

    Wambles, please join in, don't be shy. I am so sorry you are dealing with this crap.

  • wambles
    wambles Member Posts: 67
    edited September 2014

    Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou.. I'll get there eventually, new sites can be overwhelming, at least they are for me. I also suffer from social phobia, which not so much a problem online, it does make it more difficult to interact with others. I promise to try my hardest..

    W xx

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2014


    It's ok to just read if you want,,, pop in when you want and say HI.   We do understand. I'm having a hysterectomy, ovaries and all on Monday,, so I'll probably be gone for a few days. Be back when I can.  Right now, house cleaning in preparation for post op recovery time.  I'm sure I'll be restricted from vacuuming for months afterwards.  **chortle**

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited September 2014

    Ladies, ladies, ladies:  You all bring joy to my heart. 

    I told you that although I am now of a mind to wander off(*) to less cancer-y portions of the world, that I would peek back in on occasion.  I am so pleased to see that Newbies are being properly welcomed (not just by the Mods--ahem!) and that a great deal of info., support, and sharing is taking place, as usual.  Also, extremely satisfied NOT to read mundane accounts of nationwide weather.  Well done and carry on!

    jbok, Hope to catch your Sassy Head on the Today Show one day soon.

    justamy, I applaud your tenacity to stick to it and get those disability benefits that you deserve.  Also nice that you received an outpouring of community support.  Beautiful icing on the cake!

    (*)  And when I say "wander off" you better believe that I just crossed off states #49 and #50, and have now been to every single state in the U.S.  Not quite by age 50, but when you get waylaid by BC sometimes you get off schedule.  Whatever!  Get back on track, I say.  Which states were my last ones, you wonder?  Well, they were GA and SC, and the historic occasion is marked by the photo below.  Enjoy yet another "self-portrait."  I really think I have revealed a lot of myself in this one.  Ahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • macatacmv
    macatacmv Member Posts: 1,386
    edited September 2014

    lol; eli, I "see" you!

    well done on the all 50 states. That is something I would like to care of soon, too. Are the light houses from your recent travels?

    glennie, good luck (I am not sure if that is what I mean?) I mean, the doctors should not need luck to do their job, they should have skill. I guess I mean good healing!!! (and I would milk that not vacuum thing myself, too)

    Oh ily, and wambles, you do not have to apologize. We were all new once and overwhelmed. Just chime right in, and even tho we are very vulnerable at the beginning most people here want to help you so try not to take offence if someone comes off sounding strong or overly strident. Keep asking questions and searching for the answers you need.

    I have to have an excisional biopsy on a spot on my back on Tuesday. We're praying for Basal Cell. Just one more thing to deal with. 

    But I am also picking up my new car that day. My first ever brand new car!!!! So my DD gets to drive it first. 

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2014


    elimar:  Congrats on hitting all 50 states!!  I accomplished that goal last year right after diagnosis and before the MX. North Dakota was my last state.

    macatacmv:  Thank you for your well wishes! I do have faith in my GYN as she is a skilled surgeon. I'll be popping back on as soon as i have recovered enough to hit the computer again.

  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited September 2014

    Glennie - best wishes for an uneventful and successful surgery on Monday with a speedy recovery!  I've had my uterus and left ovary removed in the past and am wondering if now the right one should go.  My husband talked me into getting a robotic vacuum last year and it is GREAT!  You should get one of those and be done with vacuuming forever!!

    ilytib and wambles - I just started posting here, too...lot of nice ladies here!  ilytib - I hope you can find some answers regarding your lymphedema and wambles - good luck with your upcoming MRI.

    macatacmv - good luck with your biopsy on Tuesday and enjoy that new car!!  What kind are you getting? 

    I guess I need to find a nice picture for my profile...maybe I will do one of my cute little Chugg, Dixie!  Let me see if I can figure out how to do that

  • barsco1963
    barsco1963 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited September 2014

    Welcome ilytib and wambles. Although it sucks to have new members (due to the crappy reason we are all here) it is good to find somewhere that you can just ask any question, share any experience, laugh, cry, and just be you. There is only support, encouragement and caring to be found here. You will find that some middies are regular posters and others (like myself) are avid readers with the odd post every now and then. We are all here for each other regardless.

    macatac - fingers will be crossed for you on Tuesday. Will also jump in your pocket to hang out for a while. May even stay for a ride in that new car! Love that new car smell!

    glennie - wishing you an uneventful surgery with quick recovery. Wear big pockets so that we can all jump in with you as well.

  • barsco1963
    barsco1963 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited September 2014

    Eli - Good to "see" you - so glad that you are out there enjoying yourself and seeing the country! 

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2014


    Thanks for the well wishes everyone.  Carrying a big bag for you all !

    Mac: neglected to wish you well for Tues and hope for a Basal cell. Better yet,, nothing!  And oooo, new car!! Sweet!

    Mel:  Dixie is very cute! Great job with figuring out the avatar.

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited September 2014

    mac, Yup, lighthouse pics are from Tybee Is., Hunting Is., and Sullivan's Is.  I know some folks are real afficionados.  Not me, but I photographed them just the same.  Having just returned from some beaches, I have to admit the sun is no longer a friend to my skin.  I have the brown pigments and the white lack of pigments showing up in recent years...all sun damage.  So far, nothing with malignancy.  I will hope that your procedure on Tues. will be the remedy for your "spot."  (BTW, I was told that everyone along that low country coastal region has their own dermatologists they see regularly.  Comes with that beach lifestyle, I guess.)

    Also, best of luck with surgery, glennie19!  Is it laparoscopic (with or without robot?)  The healing is not too bad when you just get those smaller incisions.  I hope you are able to have that, and that healing is swift and uneventful.  You still get a pass on the housework for a good long time, regardless.  As a Middie, you automatically get a manservant sent your way to help out with all those chores while you rest up and recover.  Will this one do?

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  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2014


    OOOOOO, my own manservant??? Thanks, Elimar!!!

    It is a robotic lap. HX,, plan is that I'll go home the same day.  First a drive-by MX now a drive-by HX,, what is the world coming to??  LOL.  Friends are always amazed that I don't have to stay in the hospital.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2014

    Glennie - you've had so much great advice from experts - especially about the LE issues.  Just my two cents...  I always make anesthesia do the line in my foot BEFORE they give me anything to deaden my senses.  In fact, after one bad experience w/anesthesia trying to start the line, I now ask for the charge nurse or Pre-Op supervisor to start the line.  Writing on your arm is good.  Pink bracelets are good.  Knowing the line is already started in your foot is a winner!!!  Hope all goes well.

  • wambles
    wambles Member Posts: 67
    edited September 2014

    Good morning all!! (its 5.45am here in the UK, uurrgh)

    First of all, thankyou for the replies and welcomes. I'm not savvy enough to remember individual names just yet but I appreciate each and every one, thankyou!!

    I'm now posting on 2 threads, go me! Before long I'll be a posting veteran like most of you..

    Aside from my newbie status, I have the added hiccup of not owning a PC or laptop, so all my posting is done via my mobi, which is also brand new. No, I've not yet worked out all the features so I'm afraid my posts will be extremely basic compared to others. Technology has never been my strong point. Haha.

    To the lady having a hysterectomy and ooph (soooo sorry, I cant go back and check for names just yet) I wish u all the luck in the world and rapid rapid healing. All these procedures and surgeries just never seem to end. My MRI is scheduled for Oct 6 and I'm kinda nervous. Have heard its deafening!!.

    Hope everyone is having good days/nights and thankyou once again for the well wishes

    Hugs W xx

  • macatacmv
    macatacmv Member Posts: 1,386
    edited September 2014

    okay, I gotta ask. mel, what is a chug? Chihuahua / pug? Very cute, whatever she is. Is she full size? 

    yep, eli, I have my own dermatologist that wants to see me every 6 months. Esp after the rads tx. I grew up in FL and then did a lot of sailing when I was younger. We figure whatever it is we catch it early. But this grew pretty fast. 

    must be a sad day for eph. George is married off, but still great to look at!

    I'm getting a new subaru outback. I've had them for years and years now. I'm trading in my 2008 model. They work really well in our climate and road conditions. Also my "labox" fits in the cargo area in the back very nicely. she is 65 lbs of excitable, happy dog. She accumulates mud, drool and sand perfectly. 

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited September 2014

    Thanks for the condolences mac.  Yes, it is sad, George is no longer eligible to fall for my feminine wiles, if he as ever in reach of them.  The one is probably REALLY sad is Marlegal.  I love George, but not as much as she does.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2014


    Good morning all.

    wambles:  thanks for the well wishes for my HX. That's tomorrow,, and I can't believe it is FINALLY here. The MRI is loud,,, I've had several of them,,, but they should give you ear plugs and usually there is music piped too. Last time I went, the music was broken so I only had the ear plugs. Can you call in advance and ask them about if they supply ear plugs?  If not, you could bring your own, but no metal ones!!  I generally meditate thru them, do chanting in my head, not out loud cuz you can't talk unless the tech is talking to you, making sure you are OK. Once I actually fell asleep during one!  Must have been really tired that day!

    I have my own derm. too. Having lived most of my life in FL and having had some bad sunburns in my youth. Had a basal cell on my leg at age 37. Checkups since then. I have 2 ugly looking ones that need looking at now,,, but my appt is not until Nov.  It takes forever to get to see the derm. down here. They are always so busy.

    George is married????   ***sob*****

    I used to hang out at the beauty parlor in my youth while my Mom got her hair done, and read all those celebrity mags of the day. Photoplay, etc.   I remember the headlines when Paul McCartney got married.

    **Last Beatle married!  Millions of hearts broken***  Photo of Paul and LInda.   It's weird the things you remember!

    congrats on the new Outback. One of my neighbors has one and it's very nice.

  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited September 2014

    Jbokland--WooHoo!

    OK, I just did some
    searching, the study I was remembering was reported in the Journal of the
    American Medical Association (JAMA) and was done at the University of
    California, San Diego.The quick
    summary:

    “We followed women
    for an average of 7.3 years and found no evidence that the adoption of a diet
    very high in vegetables, fruit and fiber and low in fat was more effective in
    preventing breast cancer recurrence or death than the nationally recommended '5-A-Day'
    fruit and vegetable diet among women with previously treated, early stage
    breast cancer.”

    — Ellen Gold, UC
    Davis professor

    From
    <http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/welcome/features/20070815_cancer_diet/>

    The study, "Influence of a Diet Very High in Vegetables,
    Fruit, and Fiber and Low in Fat on Prognosis Following Treatment for Breast
    Cancer," JAMA 2007; 298(3):289-298, is available at http://jama.ama-assn.org/.

    From
    <http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/welcome/features/20070815_cancer_diet/>

    Justamy--Yeah for
    good newes!

    Ilytib--what you are
    describing is called Truncal Lymphedema.It's lymphedema that does not involved the arm, but involves the breast,
    chest, upper back.There is a lymphatic
    massage process that the LE (Lymphedema) therapist can teach you.I got truncal LE after radiation, when I had
    the mastectomy(due to rads damage and
    pain) the truncal LE meant I had to have a drain in place for almost 3 months.
    There are LE threads here in BCU that are very active and have the most up to
    date info, which I don’t have--most of the fluid collected in my breast so most
    of the problem went away after the mastectomy healed, but it was a very long
    process. The very best thing you can do right now is get in with the LE
    specialist ASAP.And kathec is
    right--Binney is an LE expert, and helped me a lot!.And you haven't posted in the
    "wrong" place, we're just sharing where there is more specific info
    here on the boards!It can be confusing
    to find your way around here in the beginning.

    Wambles--no need to
    apologize for rambling and no reason to be shy.You get more comfortable posting as time goes by.And we all know how overwhelming this is in
    the beginning.Not everyone can tolerate
    the side effects of any of the medications we have available to us.You do the best you can with the info you
    have at themoment when you make
    treatment decisions.I did the
    zolodex/arimidex thing for 4 years.Hard, but doable.I couldn't get
    anyone to take out my ovaries, so I envy you there!Do you have any arthritis anywhere?Arthritis, recent bone injuries and
    infections show up as hot spots on bone scans as well as cancer.My chronic sinus infections showed up on a
    bone scan, totally unrelated to bc.The
    MRI will be a bit more specific.Hang
    in there and keep coming back as you need to.

    Good job, El!

  • wambles
    wambles Member Posts: 67
    edited September 2014

    Hi.

    Native - As far as I'm aware I don't have any arthritis, though of course, who knows? My oncologist did say the spot on my hip could be bursitis. I had never heard of this before but I'll take it over cancer any day!!!

    W xx

  • 3littlebirds
    3littlebirds Member Posts: 101
    edited September 2014

    Wambles,

    I have had many breast MRIs. They always give me headphones which help to muffle the noise. I did get music piped in a couple of times but actually found it annoying because it was low volume and very tinny sounding. Like Glennie, I meditate through mine and am very drowsy when I come out! I was worried about the claustrophobia but it was not a problem at all because the machine was open at both ends. I had visions of some tube where my head was close to the wall (I'm tall!) and it wasn't that way at all. I even had an MRI guided biopsy. They had someone there to just hold my hand and rub my back. It was actually kind of weird for me, but I can understand how some people would be comforted by it.

    Glennie, I had a drive-by BSO & hysterectomy also. One incision in my belly button where the camera went in, two more tiny ones lower down on my abdomen and out about six inches from the midline where the instruments went in, and one more about 1.5 inches long and a little lower than the hairline where they took everything out. Good luck! 

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2014


    Thanks 3littlebirds!  Yeah, I'm supposed to have 4 or  5 incisions!  Will count afterwards!!

    Bowel prep time. 1st bottle of Mag Citrate down the hatch.  YUCK!!!

  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited September 2014

    macatacmv - Yes - you guessed correctly...a Chugg is a Chihuahua/Pug mix!  She was not quite full size in that picture...we rescued her and she was a little skinny there.  She's still pretty small, though...probably between 18-20 pounds now.  Her legs are super skinny and she is fast as can be.  She is about the same height as my beagle, although she holds her head higher than he does since he is old so that puts her just above him.  She is super affectionate and loves to cuddle, but she also likes to get into trouble.  We call under our bed her "lair" and she will snatch things and run under it.  She knows I can't reach her under there so I have to trick her to get her out.  Usually giving Spencer (the beagle) attention will cause her to come running because she is super jealous.  I feel a little bad using him as bait, but it's better than hurting myself trying to reach under the bed after her. 

    Congrats again on the Subaru Outback!  Those are nice.  Our daughter has an Impreza and when we got that for her I told my husband I liked the Outback and could see getting one for us when the van goes.  

    glennie - Glad you like Dixie's picture!!  Your pooch is very cute, too...very nice markings.  What is his/her name?  Good luck with the Mag Citrate.  Blech!  I hate that stuff!  Are we all invited to your house to watch your manservant iron?? 

    NativeMainer - glad you found those links - I'm going to check them out now

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2014

    Ava is her name. She is a real sweetie.   The Mag citrate is so gross. I'm ready to hurl. I can't get the taste out of my mouth either. Chicken broth tastes weird now. 

    Yes, you may come and watch my manservant iron!  SillyHeart

  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited September 2014

    glennie - Ava does look sweet - and happy!  Thanks...I'll bring the popcorn and lots of shirts to keep him busy! 

  • Mulligan
    Mulligan Member Posts: 205
    edited September 2014

    Glennie my thoughts and well wishes are with you today for an uneventful and speedy recovery.

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