Doctor intentionally diagnose healthy people w/cancer

Mulligan
Mulligan Member Posts: 205

I've been debating whether or not to post this and then I didn't know where I should post it. (Mods feel free to move it if it's not in the right place) I'm just so pissed for all the families involved!

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I hope none of our Michigan sisters or their families had to be involved with him.

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  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited September 2014

    I am, absolutely, gobsmacked.

  • Marple
    Marple Member Posts: 19,143
    edited September 2014

    OMG!  Unbelievable that someone would do that.  Gobsmacked is the word for sure.

  • AmyQ
    AmyQ Member Posts: 2,182
    edited September 2014

    A story like this shakes me to my very core. I cannot imagine the pain and anguish of those families who were abused by this sorry human being.

    Amy

  • linzer
    linzer Member Posts: 164
    edited September 2014

    Once I get over the initial shock, disgust, and anger, I cannot fathom how he pulled this off. I have concrete reports from a variety of sources (local hospital's initial path, scans from another hospital etc.). How could he have logistically kept this going for so long without many others - radiologists, surgeons etc. not finding out? So sad. So, so sad for those families. I hope that he gets what he deserves.

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited September 2014

    What appalls me is that there are many bad apples and little oversight.  And, where are the colleagues of these rogue physicians?  There is plenty of blame to go around...

    Having read the book, The Good Nurse: A True Story of Medicine, Madness and Murder, I am not in the least bit surprised by Dr. Fata's behavior. Read the book and you will see how these people get away with murder.  

    My most sincere sympathies are with these families.....

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited September 2014

    Linzer...good question regarding the other professionals.  Read the book that I mentioned and you will see how easily these horrific situations occur.

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited September 2014

    I think what he did should warrant the death penalty. What a monster!

  • Gilesmt
    Gilesmt Member Posts: 65
    edited September 2014

    I am not shocked at all, since my diagnosis I have questioned it. It does not say but I can see how it happens in HMOs, they control all the seedy docs, they hire those that will go along with medicare fraud. Why I questioned mine and still does, they had to do two biopsies to get a positive dcis, they had to do two surgeries become they got the less than 1 CM out, so far they have done 5 ct scans, 9 chest X-rays, 3 MRI, a hospital stay, 4 urgent care visits, my bills to medicare in the last three months is well over $100,000, and my portion is $6000 to date. I have been giving more than 45 meds. This all seems over kill and I am getting sicker by the moment. 

    A doctor in Texas was found a few months ago also treating breast cancer when ther was none. My last comment is when my HMO puts on it web site that breast cancer is the number one diagnosis of women, I was shocked they must mean the number one diagnosed cancer in women but that is not what it say it say breast cancer is the number one diagnoses of women. So yes I can see how they can get away with it. The insurance company owes the lab, the doctors, the radiologist, the oncologist and everyone, so they just need to hire those that won't be truthful.

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited September 2014

    Gilesmt - I agree with you and believe more of this horrible life threatening corruption is going on then we know.  The added horror is when their activities are reported and nothing is done about it.... 

  • annika12
    annika12 Member Posts: 433
    edited September 2014

    I know two of his former patients , its horrible beyond belief how anyone can put someone through that!!! Its just as horrible that no one listened to the few nurses who questioned him ..... and all that went along !!! Part of what I like with this forum is checking other women's treatment plans so I have good questions for my doctors. 

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited September 2014

    This was truly abhorrent and inconceivable, to me, that any human being could do this to others. Although medical fraud and bad doctors do exist, and more than we'd like to think, I still believe that the vast majority are dedicated to their field. As for HMO's , my self contained HMO, hires fantastic top notch doctors who are salaried.Their teaching hospital,in Santa Clara, is used by Stanford interns and residents. They are not all the same. There are bad apples in every profession but it is clearly the worst type of abuse when those bad apples are playing with human life.

  • WinningSoFar
    WinningSoFar Member Posts: 951
    edited September 2014

    While I'm critical of HMO's for other reasons, I can't see why an HMO would be motivated to give unnecessary treatment.  They make money when patients don't use their services, not when they do.  Isn't that right?

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited September 2014

    Legislation has been passed to ensure that whistleblowers do not get into legal quandaries.  That said, reporting and investigations are still limited.  This happens in many professions.  Think of Bernie Madoff...there is a lot of blame to go around.  Recall, Harry Markopolis who uncovered Madoff's scheme and reported it to the SEC and the SEC couldn't figure out what to do with the info!  

    Many of the bad apples in every job sector figures out early how to game the system.  It is truly frightening how woefully inadequate the system is, when bad players are involved.  Here on Long Island, an orthopedist is doing jail time for assisting railroad workers in a $1B fraudent disability scam.  The scam was perpetuated more than a decade ago!

    The good nurse, described in the book that I mentioned earlier, was committing murder for more than a decade.  He moved from hospital to hospital without ANY employment issues.  Human resources at several hospitals NEVER uncovered his dubious employment record!  It took another nurse to figure out what he was doing and ultimately called the police!  Something that numerous previous employers should have done.

    Our society is filled with rotten apples.  Philosophers, over the ages, have tried to figure out what makes people good or bad...and in between.  We all need to ask ourselves at what point would we be inclined to blow a whistle?  And once we do blow it, if the response isn't favorable, would we still blow the whistle again and again until justice is properly served.....

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited September 2014

    Alexgram,

    Good point. HMO's have often been accused of scrimping on care, not doling it out freely. I know I often mention that I think my HMO is great, but it is a very different model than most. I, jokingly, refer to it as the Club Med of HMO's, since everything I need is on one campus. They have a strong emphasis on wellness, prevention and patient education which helps contain costs. My experience has been that if one truly needs care, such as cancer, they don't scrimp. But, don't be surprised if they won't give you antibiotics for a common cold!

  • Mulligan
    Mulligan Member Posts: 205
    edited September 2014

    The evilness in me thinks he should be punished with chemotherapy and no pain management until he suffers a slow and painful death.

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited September 2014

    Mulligan - I so agree with you.  Some high doses of Adriamycin come to mind.

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited September 2014


    Holy moly....my heart just drops reading this.

  • Mulligan
    Mulligan Member Posts: 205
    edited September 2014

    Voraciousreader, I just picked up the book you recommend from my local library, I'm going to read it on Fri during my chemo treatment.

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited September 2014

    Mulligan...You are going to read the book in the infusion room?  I hope you don't get dirty looks from the nurses or worse...fall out of the chair as you read the chilling story!  Please let us know your thoughts about the book!

  • Mulligan
    Mulligan Member Posts: 205
    edited September 2014

    Oh Voracaiousreader, I didn't think about that, maybe I'll read it tonight. I'll definitely let you know! Thanks

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