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  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited September 2014

    mikishelley-  I remember you!   Sorry you feel unwelcome,  and I definitely don't mind people reading along without posting!  I think we have quite a few people who have said that's what they do for the most part.  Anything that helps someone along is good, and I think there have been times when all of us have been away, or just not posting, or just trying to escape cancer world for awhile.   And that's okay.   I hope this place will be helpful and healing for everyone,  no matter how much they are able to contribute. 

  • lilyrose53
    lilyrose53 Member Posts: 216
    edited September 2014

    mikishelley,  I remember you too!  I just figured you were off living life after treatment ended.  I'm sorry someone was nasty to you.  So uncalled for.  I tend to be sporadic about getting on this site...I'm easily distracted by other things.  ;)  I hope you are doing well.

    VeraAnn,   I was told my chances were pretty even between double mastectomy and lumpectomy with rads.  I chose lumpectomy with reduction.  I had my sentinel node biopsy done at the same time.  But I am also BRCA neg.  We each need to choose what we are most comfortable with.  I don't know your stats, but they can help you make an informed choice.  I hope you find peace with whichever you choose.

    Wishing you all a peaceful evening,  lilyrose

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited September 2014

    VeraAnn-  It is a very personal decision.   That being said, I went for the double.   I have a huge history of cancers in my family and I still have another 9 months to wait before I get in for genetic testing.   So I still don't know if I am gene positive.  I also worked on a cancer unit as well as palliative care so my view is skewed because all I saw were the recurrences and new primary cancers in the other breast (so I worry about it more than I should).  My breast surgeon said I didn't need the bilateral but my oncologist wrote in his notes that he thought I was very wise to go for the double.  I was not a candidate for lumpectomy as 95% of my breast was DCIS.  If I ever get to have a second child I will miss breastfeeding and I miss my sexual side of having breasts.  But overall I would make the same decision.   Pain was an issue for me for about 3-4 weeks and I still have not been able to sleep on my side with the TE.

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited September 2014

    Mikishelly - I remember you and glad you got a chance to post and say hi.  I hope you are doing well and could care less how often anyone posts - some peeps post alot and some now and then to update or ask a question.  I hope you do feel welcome here cause you are!!

    Veraann - I had IDC in both breast that were not seen on a mammogram.  That is why I did a BMX - I knew I couldn't trust mammos to find it.  My BS told me the same - that I had about the same odds or recurrence with a lumpectomy or BMX and she would do either one.  I would have most likely had to have radiation with the lumpectomy.  I asked her if she was the one with BC in both breasts and ones that seem to hide what would she do and she said BMX - so that is what I did.  Recovery and the experience is different for everyone.  I stayed out of work for a month because I had some healing issues.  I think had I not had those issues I could have done a desk job after two weeks or so.  My pain was very minimal - I only took pain meds for two days.  The TE's were uncomfortable at times but for me not really painful.  The first couple of weeks after the BMX you are very restricted in your movement due to internal healing so you need to have help at times.   I was pretty self sufficient by the 2nd week but there were things I couldn't do.  When you have made your decision on what you are going to do go to the surgery thread for the month or two before yours and read the experiences and ideas.  The March group was what I was in and Sandra was extremely helpful.   Also feel free to ask me about anything you are concerned about.  I had my exchange surgery yesterday and so happy to have one more part of this journey completed.   

  • mmtagirl
    mmtagirl Member Posts: 509
    edited September 2014

    Vera Ann, my experience with BMX recovery was very similar to Linda's and she offers some great advice.  I have not had my exchange yet and have been living with the Te's since January 29.  Keeping my fingers crossed that implant surgery continues as planned October 29.  My onco wants another consult for rads which is next week.  Timing will change if treatment plan changes.  It really is a year long process to recovery!

  • EverForward
    EverForward Member Posts: 242
    edited September 2014

    I am 11 days out from my BMX with tissue expanders. I was just complaining on another thread about the TE discomfort, lack of motion, etc and was feeling depressed about having to put up with this for 3-4 months. But seeing how long many of you have been dealing with TEs, I don't know what to think. Does it get better after a while? My God, mmtagirl, you've had your TEs in since January?! 

    I'm just sick of all this. I was diagnosed in January, had three lumpectomies in a row, followed by months of chemo and it's aftermath, and now BMX and TEs. I'm so sick of being sore, of feeling sick, of being bald, of not being able to exercise properly or do the things I enjoy. And right now I'm sick of not being able to take a shower. And it's funny because two days age I was feeling good and positive about my ability to do this. Today, not so much. Maybe tomorrow I'll feel better again.

  • Funclassygal
    Funclassygal Member Posts: 105
    edited September 2014

    Jaimieh, you are right - I have read this also.  This is why I was aiming to do both.  Thank you for your input - truly appreciate it.  VeraAnn

  • Funclassygal
    Funclassygal Member Posts: 105
    edited September 2014

    linda505, thank you so much for this - it helps me feel more positive!  Uggggh, I like many women have gone from A to Z - never having a thing wrong with me to this - so frustrating.  But, we will all get through it because we are all strong!  I never ever thought that I would be faced with chemo - my worst nightmare - just the word itself scared the hell out of me.  I did it and am half way through.  I certainly understand what "Day by Day" means now.  Thank you again, VeraAnn

  • Funclassygal
    Funclassygal Member Posts: 105
    edited September 2014

    mmtagirl, thank you for your encouraging reply - it definitely helps!  VeraAnn

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited September 2014

    Everforward - it gets better with time - the TE's were more painful for me early on and got better as time went on.  You are really still recovering from major surgery.  I didn't have any fills other than what we put in at the surgery for 3 weeks so I think that helped.  How much did you have put in your TE's at surgery?  Do you still have drains?  When do you see your PS next?

    Just to give you all some encouragement - had my exchange yesterday and only taking tylenol today and just regular strength.  Chest feels tight but not really any pain.  Taking the tylenol for my throat from the tube from surgery lol.    I haven't looked yet.  I can take the ace bandage off today and shower but I think I am going to wait until this evening.  I think the shower might relax me a bit - had a hard time sleeping last night - sure it was the after effects of the anesthetic - but my brain was working overtime.   

  • MakeLemonade
    MakeLemonade Member Posts: 153
    edited September 2014

    Again, it's been a bit since I logged on ... busy again! :-)   My head space feels normal 6-1/2 weeks PFC, so I can things done.  My body, not so much as there is just no stamina.  I am on track to get to my event in California next month and the last two weeks have been spent working on the computer for that event.  Still another couple of week's work left to do.  

    Have had 17/30 RADS ... actually it is 17/23 whole breast treatments, then will follow with 7 boosts.  Skin is holding up really, really well and am only starting to feel a little tired.  Not like chemo where any little thing I did made me needing a nap ... .more like I ran errands all day and need to sit and put my feet up kind of tired.

    mikishelley ... I am surprised someone said anything about lurking or was nasty to you!  That is too bad ... I don't post that often, or even get a chance to get here that often, but like to know this place is here.  

    Hair is growing!!  Not enough that I would feel comfortable going "out in the world" without head covering, but head is all dark now. Eyelashes and eyebrows coming back!  Only lost those 2 weeks PFC, so glad they are reappearing.  I also had to shave my legs today for the first time since the beginning of May!!  I did NOT miss doing that all summer ... one of the silver linings to all of this ... didn't have to shave and no bad hair days :-)

    Good luck to those of you doing the reconstruction ... more power to you! I had a lumpectomy as my cancer was all in one quadrant and my survival rate would have been the same regardless of what surgery I had. However, I have had a recurring seroma and two breast infections. Whereas I once MIGHT have considered having a breast reduction on the non surgical breast (I am liking the new size of the surgical side), now having gone through all of this and it only finally seeming to resolve 2 weeks ago, no way will I ever go through surgery that I don't absolutely have to go through :-) Not brave enough and would worry that something would go wrong with me again. Whereas chemo was NOT fun at all, at least nothing hurt for the most part.  Yeah, had bone pain, but it only lasted for 2 days after Taxol treatments.  I had pain after surgery and had discomfort during the two infections and then again during the bouts of seeping of liquid. 

    Time to go and moisturize the radiation field again ... they want me to moisturize 4 times a day and so far, so good! 

  • EverForward
    EverForward Member Posts: 242
    edited September 2014

    Linda, glad to hear you are doing so well after your exchange. You have become my inspiration! I have another appt with both surgeons Monday. I had two of four tubes removed last week and suspect the remaining two will come out later this week. I'm sure that will help; if nothing else, I'll be able to take a shower and that usually makes me feel better. I think I had 50 ccs and 100 ccs put in at the surgery. I've never really responded well to pain meds (Vicodin has no effect on me) so I'm having a hard time with the TE discomfort. I'm taking Valium and hydromorphone. I also have prescription strength ibuprofen.

  • mmtagirl
    mmtagirl Member Posts: 509
    edited September 2014

    Hanf in there, Evwrforward.  The TEs do become easier to live with.  The first 6 weeks or so are the hardest.  

    I won't say you will ever like them, but, after awhile you will feel like you are wearing an iron bra or turtle shells 24/7.  Not painful, just uncomfortable.  

    I am learning patience through this journey.  I think I may end up with the booby prize for wearing TEs if the docs next week recommend rads after all this time!  My PS tells me that the longer you wear them the better the outcome so I keep my spirits up remembering those words.

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited September 2014

    Wishing those of you who've recently had surgery a speedy recovery!

    Just completed my first post-chemo follow-up with my MO.  Just a vitals check, physical check, and questions to see how I was doing on the arimidex.  I will have my mammogram in February, which will be a year after diagnosis.  I know some have a mammogram or MRI at 6 months, but I'm ok with a year.  

    I went topless to the onc's office (talking about my head) - I still don't have a lot of hair, but enough to visit the Cancer Center.

    Tomorrow is the dermatologist, then the GP to deal with the other after effects of chemo like reflux and high blood sugar.  

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited September 2014

    Sharon, your schedule sounds like mine.  Just got back from internist.  Tomorrow is the geneticist.  Last Friday was the surgeon, onco and radiologist.  Then there's the physical therapist, who has time for her?

    I need to see the dentist so that I can get the Zometa shot for my osteoporosis.

    Cancer is a full-time job!

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited September 2014

    You have a few more on your schedule than I do, Timbuktu.  I do see the dentist on Thursday, but won't see the surgeon or radiologist til after the first of the year.

  • EverForward
    EverForward Member Posts: 242
    edited September 2014

    I had my first fill of the expanders yesterday. Oddly, even though I felt the tightness a couple hours later, I think the fill actually relieved some of my discomfort - like the sensation of someone pinching my armpit. 

    It's amazing how quickly my mood and attitude can change. Looking back over the past year, a psychologist would probably have a field day with the inner dialogues that I've had with myself since my diagnosis. They kinda went like this:

    "This sucks. I don't want to have cancer and I don't want to deal with surgeries and chemo and reconstruction."

    "But you're a tough chick and you can do this. You're strong."

    "No I'm not."

    "Yes you are."

    "Just shut up."

    "You shut up! You've got this thing licked. You'll come out of this even better and stronger than you were before."

    "All I want to do is lay on the couch, binge watch an entire season of The Walking Dead, and eat ice cream all day."

    "Fine, you can have your pity party today, but then tomorrow you have to bathe, get dressed, and go outside. Buy something at the farmer's market and make yourself something healthy to eat."

    "Ok, fine."

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited September 2014

    everforward LOL at the conversation.  

    I stand in front of the mirror and wonder who that person is then I say "Hey you talking to me??  you talking to ME???"  

  • ColdInCanada
    ColdInCanada Member Posts: 95
    edited September 2014

    Good Morning Ladies! I have been absent from posting, but definitely still "lurking" and trying to keep up with all of you.

    mikishelley - I remember you! Just thought (like others) that you were off enjoying your post-treatment days. Sorry someone was rude; maybe they meant "stalker" as something not-so-bad? Sometimes it's really hard to make a joke in text. Still, I'm sorry you were hurt, and I hope you'll still feel welcome to hang out here, even as just a "reader". We don't mind. :)

    timbuktu - "Cancer is a full-time job." - You got that right, Sister. 

    EverForward - Love that inner dialogue. Totally cracked me up! I can't count the number of times I've had the "No, YOU shut-up!" conversation with myself. Too funny. :D

    VeraAnn - I think I'm in the minority here. I had a unilateral mastectomy on the right side. I had 3.5cm of DCIS and only 0.6mm of IDC (that was HER2+, but that's a whole 'nother story). I was given the choice of lumpectomy versus mastectomy, but NOT a choice of single or double - my BS was in a hurry to get the cancer OUT, and I agreed. I had my surgery just two weeks after diagnosis. Looking back, if I had been given the choice of both (and some time to think about it), I probably would have opted for the double mastectomy. I now spend an awful lot of time looking at my remaining breast, and wondering if there's cancer hiding in there. My 4cm cancerous lump, that you could physically SEE, did NOT show up on the mammogram. So now I worry....Also, since I haven't had any reconstruction, I lean to the left a little. ;)

    Well, Friends, I am 9 1/2 weeks PFC and I FINALLY feel like I've reached a turning point. This is SUCH a long healing process, yes? Whew. The Glutamine supplements have helped TREMENDOUSLY - I can now walk long distances and climb stairs and even SIT CROSS-LEGGED on the floor with my kids! My muscles still stiffen up more quickly, and a squatting position isn't quite there yet, but MAN, oh MAN, I feel better than I have in a LONG time. :)

    My eyelashes are coming back. Hallelujah! The bottom ones ALL fell out, and I had about 2 dozen TOTAL left on top, and I totally looked like a chemo patient at 6 weeks post-chemo. And this was NOT FAIR. But then, this past week, I noticed teeny tiny baby lashes growing in! There was some happy dancing going on, I'm telling you! My eyebrows are nearing normal status too - I actually had to pluck a little yesterday. Hooray for the little things! :)

    As for the hair on my head? *sigh* It is a shadow of it's former self. I used to have THICK, curly, BROWN hair. And now I have baby soft, thin, straight, hair that is more grey than brown. I'd say it's about a 1/4inch long already, but you can't really tell because it's SO THIN. Even so? I've been going out topless. Oh YES, I HAVE. And, curiously, it's the WOMEN who stare and make rude-eyes at me, as though they can not believe I would be seen in public that way. The men? Smile and nod. The children? Don't even notice. But the WOMEN, who should be lifting me up and celebrating a VICTORY? They pretty much SUCK. So, I made a Note To Myself: When you see a bald woman who is brave enough to publicly go topless, give her a high five, and tell her she's GORGEOUS.

    Speaking of GORGEOUS WOMEN, *High Fives* to ALL of you! :)

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited September 2014

    Hey Cold - good to see you and hear that things on their way up.  

    Sounds like you and I have the same hair do lol - below is a pic of m with my "growth" on my daughter's 30th birthday last week.  I have lashes and my brows really need to be waxed.  They came back 2rd only to my CHIN HAIR - which would make me extremely happy if it was on top of my head!! lol, and my leg hair which seems to be in a rapid growth pattern - ughhh.

    image

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited September 2014

    Same hair I have at 9 weeks PFC.  Hooray for you going out topless.  I'm still wearing my hat but, you know it's kind of silly when you think about it because everyone who sees it KNOWS.  You can tell I'm bald even with the dorky hat on.  So what am I ashamed of??  When I finally am ready to ditch the hat I plan to have a ceremony in which I burn it.

    My eyebrows have grown in THICKER than they were before!  How weird is that?  And yesterday I found a few stray hairs growing out of my skin, BELOW my eyes, on my cheek bone, somewhere they really did not belong.  It's as though Now that the follicles are free to grow they are over compensating.  Except for on my head!  Go figure.

    So glad your energy is back Cold.  i'm at the point where I know it's not back but I kind of don't want to admit it.

    I feel it SHOULD  be back by now and feel guilty giving in to fatigue.

    It helps to be on here and hear that others are not back to normal either.  I look at my friends running around, doing things and I have to admit I am jealous.  But I have to remind myself to be glad I'm alive!

  • ColdInCanada
    ColdInCanada Member Posts: 95
    edited September 2014

    YES! The Rogue Facial Hairs! I've plucked a few out of my cheekbones as well. What the HECK is up with THAT? Geez. 

    I should clarify. YES, my muscle fatigue has improved a LOT, and YES, I have more energy than I've had in a long time. But I wouldn't say I'm back to 'normal" energy-level-wise. In fact, when I convince myself that I am, it leads to me doing way, WAY more than I should, and then I end up sleeping for four days to recuperate. lol! It is amazing to me how much the chemo tears a body down, and how long it takes to heal. And I SO get the GUILT that shows up when we take that time to heal - it feels like weakness, right? And people around us are all "Oh you're done chemo and all better so you should be able to do this and this and that...", and it just feeds those "I should be all better NOW" feelings we have. Every day I have to remind myself to focus on how far I've already come, and to give myself a break already. :)

  • EverForward
    EverForward Member Posts: 242
    edited September 2014

    Speaking of hair... I have exactly two eyebrow lashes over my left eye, but both legs are furry. Seems unnecessarily cruel. And my mad scientist hairdo is coming along nicely.

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited September 2014
  • MameMe
    MameMe Member Posts: 425
    edited September 2014

    Oh my word, you guys! I am loving this last page of posts, and relating like crazy! Sharon, that is hilarious! Just how I feel. I am almost finished with my first round of a new chemo, Xeloda, two weeks on and one off.  I had two weeks between ending Taxol and starting this, which added to some nausea and heartburn for me. Its pretty well worked out now, as I am taking a raft of SE meds with the Xeloda. Since I take all of this stuff orally twice a day at home, I find I am thinking about cancer more than when I had IV chemo. It takes time and attention to get the hang of remembering all the stuff to take, how much, and when. My hair is filling in a bit now, but since the new growth is really super white, my scalp shows through quite a bit. Soon I will color it all, but meanwhile, I have one wig that is comfortable and long enough to wear up with clips. Many people have told me how real it looks. I wear hats for walking and the gym.  Maybe by Christmas or so there will be enough hair to style and relax about. Energy: I am so on board with how much this stuff drains us. I can feel quite normal for a day, but if I do normal amounts of things, find that I am mentally and physically slowed down the next day, and have to almost do nothing. I loved reading your entries, Sharonde, EF, CinC, Linda, Timmy, mmta and all you others. Big hugs and big hopes for getting the time we need to go slow in the recovery process. 

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited September 2014

    Apropos of this discussion, have you seen the new People Magazine cover?  Joan Lunden, bald!

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited September 2014

    Mama, feel well!

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited September 2014

    Just looked it up Timbuktu- she looks great!  

    Mame-  Do you have a smartphone?  I had an app called Dosecast   You put in your prescriptions and it reminds you what to take and when.  I found it helpful.  And I like that if you don't take something exactly when if has options for you to record that and adjust if necessary!  And yes about the energy... I did a normal amount of stuff yesterday and today I couldn't drag my butt off of the couch!

  • Mompv
    Mompv Member Posts: 110
    edited September 2014

    She looks great! I wish I was as brave!

  • MommyQ
    MommyQ Member Posts: 117
    edited September 2014

    Hello folks. It's been a while since I've posted since I've gone back to work now, although I've still been reading the posts and trying to keep up. I've also been spending more time over on the Fall Rads Board since I'm doing rads now. At 6 weeks PFC, I have soft fuzzy hair about 1/4" long, which is so thin that I still look bald from 2 feet away. It's black on top and white on the sides. I'm gonna be a skunk! Or a reversed skunk, I guess. :) My eyelashes continue to fall out and they're almost completely gone on the bottom and about half there on the top. Eyebrows are falling out AND growing in at the same time. Weird. I've mastered penciling in fake brows now, just in time for having to start plucking wayward brow hair that are growing in in the wrong places. And I shaved my legs about a week ago. It was the first time since about 3 weeks into chemo. It was soft, fuzzy, light colored hair, which is weird because it's normally black. 

    Does anyone still have their port in place, like me? I'm waiting until after rads are done to get it taken out. I figure I'd try to do only one thing at a time medically! I think my MO said that I'd have to get it flushed every 3 months if I kept it in.  By the time rads are done, I'll be just 2 weeks short of 3 months. :)

    mmtagirl - That's a perfect description of the TEs! You said that it felt like wearing an iron bra, and I thought, "YES! Exactly!" I've had mine in since April and will have them for about 6 months after completion of radiation in October before my PS will do the exchange surgery. So in total, I'll have them in about a year!

    EverForward - I too found the TEs got more comfortable after a fill or 2. I think when they were empty, they sat flat and had ridges that poked me in the ribs. Once they filled up a bit, the ridges went away.

    It's so nice that everyone is starting to feel better and recovering well from chemo. We had a rough summer, didn't we, but we made it to the other side just fine. 

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