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  • trish01254
    trish01254 Member Posts: 128
    edited September 2014


    Gila -

    I'm so sorry for your the loss of your mom and your little goddaughter.  Dimentia is a tough illness and extremely hard on the caregivers.  My mom has dimentia (78) and I think that's what wore down my dad as well (he passed last year).  He said it was so exasperating taking care of mom.  Mom is still in her own home but the time is coming soon when she will need to go in to a 24hr care home.  My sister has the brunt of the responsibility since she lives in same neighborhood.  My brother and I both live 3 hrs away.

    Take care of yourself - both physically and emotionally.

    My thoughts and prayers are with you and Kat.

  • MsW2012
    MsW2012 Member Posts: 226
    edited September 2014

    Marianne, that doesn't sound right to me, unless they already have recent blood work and EKG for you. That scheduler doesn't sound very helpful. I'll be interested to see other comments on this. Whatever the case, I wouldn't go in for the procedure until all your concerns are addressed.

  • MsW2012
    MsW2012 Member Posts: 226
    edited September 2014

    oh, Marianne, glad you got that resolved.

  • aff
    aff Member Posts: 279
    edited September 2014

    gila - I'm so very sorry. I will keep you and your family in my prayers. 

    kat - I will pray for your husband. 

  • Kat-ski
    Kat-ski Member Posts: 212
    edited September 2014

    Update:  Stan is out of ICU and on another floor.  I am feeling  blessed right now.  

  • Sarahbb
    Sarahbb Member Posts: 50
    edited September 2014

    katski, that's great news! I hope he is able to recover quickly!

    Been reading everyone's posts, just too scatterbrained right now to post much.

    I'm going in for my hysterectomy on Thursday, so only 2 more days. Getting nervous, it's my first surgery ever. I'm hoping the recovery will be quick, so I can get back to work. 

  • vballmom
    vballmom Member Posts: 426
    edited September 2014

    Katski - wonderful news. I will keep him in my prayers.

    Sarahbb - you got this, girl. For you it's going to be a nice nap.  Go easy on yourself and take the time you need to heal.

    It is almost a month since my surgery (Stage I DIEP) and I am still leaky.  I have fluid that just loves to drip from a tiny spot on one breast.  My left breast, where I had the prophylactic MX with recon, is still a mess and I'm thinking it will be another month before it will heal. Other than that, I just feel achy.  Sitting or standing for any length of time is uncomfortable, and reaching for anything hurts. I guess I am a whiner, and was hoping this recovery would go faster. I went to work yesterday (with hubby) and was productive, but came home exhausted.  He still won't leave me home alone.  PS visit today.

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited September 2014

    For those of you getting ready for surgery, here's an idea that I've always used--bake a BIG batch of cookies, arrange all of them on paper plates or a disposable container, and bring them with you to the pre-op area.  Give them to your nurse there and ask him/her to put them in the break room for you, as a thank-you for everyone.

    Also (and this part I really love doing), write a short note of thanks that includes your surgeon, anesthesiologist, nurses, registration people, everyone.  Get creative--include a photo of your kids or grandkids.  Tape it to your tummy, where they'll find it after you're asleep. 

    Our surgical teams work hard, long hours, and bring many years of experience and skill to the operating room just for us.  A nice thank-you is always very much appreciated.

  • trish01254
    trish01254 Member Posts: 128
    edited September 2014

    vballmom. You need to give yourself a bit more time to really heal.  It was 12 weeks for me when I could finally do everything.  Still get the swelly belly but doesn't keep me down.  

  • Teacher64
    Teacher64 Member Posts: 840
    edited September 2014

    Sorry to say, it's been nearly six months and I still get swelly belly. I know it will go away eventually. I do take quiet satisfaction in my new pretty bras though. It took me a couple of hours of shopping to get comfortable pretties. Yeah.

    Kat-ski. Wonderful news for you and your husband.

    Sarahbb - you will do great Thursday. Heal well.

    Sbelizabeth - I gave my team cards and they were so appreciative. I also take cookies or a treat to my PS's office. Hey are such fun people.

    Vballmom - take it easy, almost a month isn't enough time. Take it easy?

    Today I'm rockin' the eye patch after my cataract surgery. Woo, a surgery with no visible scar. Now, I just need a parrot to add to my pirate look.

  • pzercher
    pzercher Member Posts: 51
    edited September 2014

    Sarahbb: Thinking of you as head into surgery! My Mx was my very first surgery also, and I was so nervous about the anesthesia. But once I hit the OR, it was the best feeling to know I was going to close my eyes and open them and it would be all over. Out of my control! You will do great.

    vballmom: Time for you to re-read all of our Week 3-4 downer posts. The adrenalin rush from week 1-2 is gone ("This is isn't bad as I thought!") and the reality has set in ("Wait a minute... why don't I feel better than this?"). I could function, but I still took Tylenol daily, and new healing sensations and soreness appeared as all of that great hospital pain management wore off. End of week 6 I suddenly felt much, much better! Hang in there...

    My cancer-versary today! One year ago I looked in the mirror and noted to my husband, "I have a big indentation in my breast..." Time stood still, because we both knew exactly what it was. Can't believe how much has happened since then. Thank you so much to this discussion board for offering helpful advice and support. I could always find solace on my lowest days by reading others' posts. You're the best.

  • TinaHoff
    TinaHoff Member Posts: 62
    edited September 2014


    Oh, gila, I am so, so sorry.  Sending you love and healing prayers...

  • ChrisInPA
    ChrisInPA Member Posts: 38
    edited September 2014

    Hi Marianne52,

    My Flap surgery isn't until October 6th.  They say I will be in the hospital for 5 days, so we shall see!

    When I had my BMX, I went a little nuts trying to make sure I had everything I might need, and ended up using very little.  Range of motion wasn't an issue, so all of the preps for "T-Rex Arms" ended up being not needed, but I am sure glad I had everything just in case.  This go round, I am only taking my laptop, phone, and some button down PJs - plan is to just Netflix out between sleeping.  :-)  Good luck!

  • Andrea623
    Andrea623 Member Posts: 959
    edited September 2014

    Just an update, even though my DIEP didn't happen. Still groggy from anesthesia and pain meds, but I think I'm pretty coherent. Surgery went well and took about 4 hours. I am hoping this will be my last but my new PS, who I completely trust and love, said there's a lot of internal damage from radiation treatments. If I don't heal well or get an infection, my only option is the lat flap. I have two drains, the rads side is producing some, but the other side isn't. I'm pretty comfortable right now, but maybe that's the Norco? Barring any complications, he wants me to wait a year before any more surgery, so I can completely heal and bounce back, something I haven't done well. Love to all, and it wish you all continued good healing. 

  • The1toC
    The1toC Member Posts: 126
    edited September 2014

    katski good news to be improving to get out of ICU. I hope he has a steady march in the same direction and out the door to home!

    Gila so sorry to hear you and your family are going through all of that and that you probably can't take the time you should to rest and heal. You will do well even so. Prayers and support sent your way.

  • enjoyevrymoment
    enjoyevrymoment Member Posts: 334
    edited September 2014

    Gila, I have not been on this board for a while and just learned about your loss, so sorry.  My Mom died at 75 and it sounds probably weird but I wasn't ready and felt she was too young.... so I am sure you did not expect to lose her at 71.  So glad your gran has been set up in the nursing home, that is one less worry.  Praying for you all who are going through so much....

    Teacher so glad you got the cataract surgery over with, would pay big money to see you with your patch.  Arrrrgh!  Also glad the other issue is softening up.  And that you got new pretties!  :)

    pzercher, congrats on being one year out!  Nice! I don't take anything for granted any more.

    Andrea, glad things went well and you get a year "off" from more surgeries.  Much as we all want to get back to the "new normal" sometimes things just have to take their own time.

    Sbelizabeth, what a thoughtful idea.  I am 6 months out but should I ever need another surgery then I will do that.  

    I am so sorry to hear about your cells Lemon, there is supposedly only 10% isn't it of our old tissue left in there, even those who go flat have a teeny bit too.  The whole thing boggles the mind.  I am glad they figured it out and did a biopsy and I will be praying for your emotions and of course physically for complete healing and recovery.  

    Couldn't sleep so here I am on the computer.  Will be a long day at work.... Hugs to everyone else...

  • GeorgieGirlKC
    GeorgieGirlKC Member Posts: 132
    edited September 2014

    Good morning ladies, just checking in! I am 3 1/2 weeks out from stage 2. I am now on an oral antibiotic for the nipple situation. See the PS here locally next Monday. I am anxious to see what she has to say and if it can be fixed. If not, it's not a deal breaker for me but sure would like it to look the best it can after going through all of that craziness!! Plus want to make sure the rest of the nipple is preserved.  I am glad I did the surgeries but continue to have mixed feelings about how I look with all the scaring. Clothes on, awesome, clothes off, what I see in the mirror is a mental work in progress. I know the scars will fade (and I still have a tattoo coming) so keep reminding myself I just need to give it more time. Yesterday was a good day. Connected with some new friends at Gilda's club. It was nice to share an evening with women who have gone through breast cancer and be able to talk openly about feelings and ask questions in a supportive environment (like this one). 

    Rose, my PS had me in support bra for weeks so can't speak to the bra question. Know there are ladies on here who have gone to PS who subscribe to no compression or bras tho!

    Gila and Katski prayers for you both. Glad Stan is out of the ICU. 

    Pollyanna, good to see an update from you. Sounds like you have jumped right back into busy! Hope you are finding time to refill and give yourself some TLC. 

    Sarah sending prayers your way for tomorrow. 

    Vballmom, you are so not a whiner. You've had a big surgery and it takes time to bounce back. I know what you mean by hoping the healing time would go faster...Give yourself lots of healing time and grace. :) 

    sbelizabeth, loved your post about the cookies and thanking those surgeons and others who are involved with this involved surgery. 

    teacher, hope the cataract surgery doesn't keep you down long. I think along with the parrot and eye patch you need a margarita and a jimmy buffet song playing in the back ground! how is your seroma?

    pzercher/seashore, XOXOXO

    andrea good to see your update and that you are aren't in any pain. Take it easy and let those around you take care of you and be gentle with you! 

    KB33 how are you doing? Sending healing thoughts your way!

    Lemon how are you doing?

    Blessings to each one of you. Hope you all find a sweet spot in your day.

    Georgie

  • Sarahbb
    Sarahbb Member Posts: 50
    edited September 2014

    Gila, I am so sorry to hear about all you have been through. I lost my mom when she was 49, so I understand how very hard it is to be without ones mother. My thoughts and prayers going out to you today. 

    Kat, thinking of you and your husband, Are you guys home yet?


    Vballmom, Thanks for the inspiring words! I am definitely going to take it easy. It's going to be time for hubby to pick up the slack. I have been racing around here like a mad woman, cleaning, and trying to get the kids to keep some semblance of cleanliness in their rooms. It took about two hours yesterday to go through my daughters room with them, we ended up with a huge bag to donate to Goodwill. It's been a month already! I am sorry to hear that you are still leaky, and really surprised that you went back to work already! Maybe a couple more weeks to recover at home! :) That's what I am hoping to be able to do, when my DIEP comes around. but I know it's easier said than done, especially when you know you could be making money!


    Sbelizabeth, that's a very sweet idea. And a note sounds very cute!


    Teacher, Thanks for the kind words! So, you're a pirate now! Arghhh swab the deck. 


    Pzercher, Thanks for thinking of me! I am feeling a little calmer about the hysterectomy today. But who knows how I will feel tomorrow! :) Hopefully the anesthesiologist will allow me to take a zanax the morning of the surgery! :) What does one say on the cancer-versary? I'm happy you are here to share that with me!


    Andrea, Happy your surgery went well. Sorry about the radiation damage. I am sure they give you lots of good drugs to keep you comfortable. I hope you are able to heal and bounce back quickly, in the meantime keep letting us know how you are!


    Georgie, sorry you are having issues with the nipple! I cant imagine what it will be like to look in the mirror after DIEP, but I want to say that from what I've been reading, things look better the longer you give them to heal. I know it takes a while for scars to fade. I happen to scar pretty easily but luckily eventually the scars all turn white and fade into the skin. I am sure yours will too!

  • Teacher64
    Teacher64 Member Posts: 840
    edited September 2014

    Lemon - thinking of you.

    Katski - thrilled your DH is in a regular room.

    Andrea623 - here's to an uneventful recovery and healing

    Pzercher - a year...you have come so far. Yeah for you.

    GeorgieGirl - hope your nipples heal well. I'm holding steadfast to seeing my finished "product" so the scars won't be so prominent. They are fading, it's just that the memories of them are still so fresh. We will get past this. 

    I went in this morning and the eye doc's tech ripped the tape off the patch. I thought they were going to have to peal me off the ceiling! Enjoyevrymoment, no make up and now half a red face, means there will be no pirate pictures. Maybe if I had the parrot on my shoulder that would be worthy, but even then it might take a margarita or two. Well, just one because they tend to set me on my ear, rear, some other part of my body than my feet!

    When I went in yesterday for the cataract surgery, a nurse brought me a warm blanket and said she was sorry I was so cold. Through the thin gown my new, still on full alert, nipples were beacons. I said I wasn't cold, I just had new nipples. She didn't know that was possible in reconstruction. I nearly laughed but decided it could be a teaching moment. 

    It's been six weeks since stage 2, so I decided to forego the compression. From the left side, it's ok but I can see just past my belly button where the swelling begins on the right. From the right side I look pregnant, a couple of months further along than Duchess Kate! I think this new look will be a surprise when I go in for ultrasound treatment tomorrow.

  • Kb33
    Kb33 Member Posts: 88
    edited September 2014

    feeling.... Sore, tired and bored in NOLA. 20 hours post-op. Have been walking twice, catheter out, contacts back in and I feel ..ok. Have not needed pain meds yet, but I think after my big two loop walk I might try some with my nap. Feeling content and a bit happy that they were able to spare my nipple and ll 4 biopsies were negative. Looking forward to a few days of healing and hopefully some sleep. Thnx everyone for you thoughts.

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited September 2014

    Sarah, best wishes for a smooth procedure tomorrow and a quick recovery!

    Gila, sending you hugs.  That is a lot to process and it's so unfair.

  • lovesroses
    lovesroses Member Posts: 14
    edited September 2014

    Hello. I just had my DIEP surgery last Thursday Sept. 4. I am now home and really feeling like I wish I hadn't chosen this surgery. It is such a long procedure. I just need a little hope right now.

  • sky78
    sky78 Member Posts: 24
    edited September 2014

    Gila - I cannot imagine what this last week has been like for you.  What a complete nightmare. I am really sorry that it has just been one thing after another for you and your family.  Try your best to focus on your own healing now.

    Lipgloss - my heart goes out to you for your loss as well.  How just beyond disappointing. It seems like there are a few others who have gone through that on these boards and I hope that gives you at least a small amount of comfort. You aren't alone.

    Those of you that were writing about struggling with healing problems....I just want to throw something at something on your behalf!!  Sometimes this road is just so frustrating. Why can't anything just ever be easy?!??  Isn't it bad enough we have to be on this road at all? Can't getting fixed up and torn apart and put back together again be without even more complications?   Grrrrrr.   I get angry sometimes! ;)

    I also want to say thank you because after reading the last few pages of posts, I sent my nurse an e-mail about a couple of things.  Nobody said anything to me about stopping the tamoxifen before surgery.  And, nobody ever told me I needed to lose weight...and I'm not thin.  I don't have much time, but if push came to shove I could lose a few pounds before surgery on 10/3.  Does anybody know WHY the doctors sometimes say you need to lose weight?   Also, the posts about anemia, I found very interesting.  I am not currently very tired, but I was recently along with some nausea and then the other day I had that weird feeling in my ears that I also thought was a post-cold thing.  I am going to ask my doctor if I can be checked for anemia. Why not, right?!?

    For those of you that had delayed reconstruction after radiation, how has it gone on the radiated side? I think there were some recent comments about that, but I wasn't sure I understood. Does the radiated side not heal as well?  I am expecting that the radiated side is going to be tighter still and perkier and so the Phase II/III surgeries will be somewhat about making the non-radiated side match the radiated side?   If anybody feels like sharing their radiated skin story again, I'm all ears. 

    And, while I'm on it, I just have to vent.  I HATE RADIATION.  The aftermath of radiated skin is just a real pain. Okay, rant over. :)

    Thanks!

    Susanne

  • pzercher
    pzercher Member Posts: 51
    edited September 2014

    lovesroses:  From your dates, it looks to me like you have been through a tremendous upheaval in a very short time--from cancer diagnosis to double mastectomy to reconstruction. Impossible to wrap your ahead around all of that in just a few months. Home from the hospital now and hopefully recovering with lots of support, you now have time to ponder what it all means. And how it all feels. Which is "not good."  I hope you feel you can share more of your feelings with loving family and friends and with the good ladies here, who truly understand what you might be experiencing. I think most of us have had feelings both positive and negative about every step of our journey and decision-making. Rest, let others pamper you, rage, cry, whatever you need to do. 

    I commemorated my cancer-versary with a support group meeting at a local Gilda's Club, which I highly recommend! What a great group of ladies, and how powerful to share experiences. I can't tell you how much better I felt today.

  • lovesroses
    lovesroses Member Posts: 14
    edited September 2014

    Thank you so much for your reply. This is the first time I have posted a message. I'm just so afraid I was seeing the "after photos" through rose colored glasses. Thought I wanted this so badly but now that I have actually had the surgery I feel kind of like I should have left well enough alone. Is there anyone who can share with me what it's like after the first week or two? Thanks in advance!

  • Lilith08
    Lilith08 Member Posts: 163
    edited September 2014

    Haven't been here in a while (at least a week!). Had an initial consult today with a PS, which was really very helpful, even though I knew going in that he does not perform the DIEP flap procedure. The doctor and nurse were both extremely likeable, very informative, and genuine. I asked about TRAM flaps, mostly to see if he thought I had enough of a belly--he does think it's plenty to work with, and he went one step further and told me that although he doesn't do DIEP there's a doctor I should consider seeing if I'd like to explore that. What a fantastic surprise! How many doctors refer you to their competition?! I'm highly impressed and am really sorry he doesn't offer what I'm looking for, because I'd love to work with him!
    So I think my next step, tomorrow, is to see how it would take to get an appointment with the DIEP doctor. The TRAM doctor suggested that doing a delayed DIEP might be a smart thing, and I got the impression that was possibly due to scheduling difficulties. I'm supposed to see my BS next week and really don't want to put that, or the PBMX, off for long. One of my surgeries in July was for a suspected papilloma in the right breast (papillary cells were detected in aspirated fluid), but no papilloma was detected in the excised tissue. I have a strong suspicion there's something in there, though, as in the past three or four weeks I've noticed a sort of crusting around the nipple, and that has been a sign in the past that a papilloma has been causing nipple discharge. Fingers crossed that whatever it is, it'll still be benign. This just drives home to me how ready I am to just remove these "busy breasts" of mine! Then I can take my time and see if I really dislike the flat look enough to go ahead with DIEP at a later date.

  • tlbradyful
    tlbradyful Member Posts: 134
    edited September 2014

    pzercher - You have such a lovely way of putting things. Thank you for being here. You nailed it on the description of the feelings by week!

    Sarah - I'll be thinking of you tomorrow.

    So many are going through so much. I am thinking of all of you.

  • Teacher64
    Teacher64 Member Posts: 840
    edited September 2014

    lovesroses - you are early in this process. You and I had about the same time schedule from diagnosis to DIEP. It is a lot to absorb and take in. Up to this point, you were probably on autopilot and moved according to others' schedules. Do not lose hope. Honestly, the next couple of weeks will be challenging as you begin to maneuver more. Take it slow and easy. Allow yourself time to heal. Allow others to help you. You will get through this and move forward. This a journey that none of us wants to travel, but I believe that DIEP is a wonderful choice for those of us who can take this leap. I'm six months out and appreciate my warm breasts more every day. The scars are beginning to fade some. It doesn't happen overnight or in a week. I found it helpful to write in a journal. Pzercher mentioned Gilda's club. I go to meetings at a Cancer Support Community. Talking with others has been very helpful. 

    Once you are walking straight, are beyond drains, and can do things for yourself, you will be able to see yourself and life in a more positive light. I kept track of my progress in my journal and after a couple of weeks noticed that I had more positive days and was awake and doing more and more. You are past the most difficult part. Come back here often and let us know how you are doing. 

  • brendarj
    brendarj Member Posts: 72
    edited September 2014

    Hi everyone. I haven't posted in a long time but have been keeping up. This forum is the best place for sharing the happy, the sad and getting questions answered speaking of which. I am 14 weeks post DIEP and my abdomen below donor site is very hard and swollen (I look seven months pregnant , which is not a good look for a 61 year old) with a vertical bulge on the right side. Did anyone else have issues with this. Dr.H ordered a CT which I had Monday haven't heard anything yet. Thinking that's a good thing.

  • enjoyevrymoment
    enjoyevrymoment Member Posts: 334
    edited September 2014

    Lovesroses, it will be amazing to you how things do look better with time and I truly felt kinda Frankensteinish at first too.  So take heart!

    Brendarj, I truly was convinced I had permanent preggo belly after my surgery, it wasn't until probably 5 months it got pretty flat, but there is a chance it is a seroma and they can do things to fix it.  Best wishes, hope it is nothing that won't resolve in time.  

    Teacher you always make me smile.  The nip story.... hilarious.  Educating those who don't get it, one person at a time..... that is our new role in life hahahaha

    Georgie, it will be better!  Sending you hugs!  I don't miss the emotional roller coaster, I just realized the other day how much different I feel now that things have quieted down a bit.  Less appts and less trauma.  Wishing that for everyone.  

    Off to bed... zzzzz Take care, everyone!

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