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  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited September 2014

    thank you Barbara!!

    Jbokland - Red is my favorite color. Always has been. What a wonderful and powerful statement you just made.  I love your reversal of perspective!! Pink isn't watered down but is the core. I love it. Thank you for sharing. 

  • oranje_mama
    oranje_mama Member Posts: 260
    edited September 2014

    Love, love, love all the pix and posts here!

    Lisa, so sorry for the wait.  I had many holiday weekends of waiting for results, including original biopsy over Thanksgiving.  The wait sucks, no two ways about it!  I also have spots in my left breast that are being "followed."  I had a MRI/mammo in December, and 2nd one in April (pre surgery on the right).  The left is still on the 6 month schedule.  I had lumpectomy, not mastectomy, so figure that 3-6 month mammos on both sides punctuated by periodic MRIs will be my new normal for the foreseeable future.  

    Everyone's hair is looking so good.  Kim, yours looks like a true pixie and looks adorable on you!  Mine is still cancer-short, rather than trendy short.  I've ditched the wig anyway, and got a lot of shocked reactions at work but I'm glad to be done with it.  Hoping to have a pixie by Oct. 17th when I'm going to a big family wedding.  Is that too much to ask ?!!!

    Holli, loved your blog post and pictures.  I too have come around on pink.  Actually I have a ton of pink in my wardrobe (pre BC).  Even pink purses and pink shoes!  I kind of avoided it during the past months.  But I'm coming around on it.  I've been planning a post-treatment party, and thinking that I will even theme it "pink".  I'm putting off the party till the new year.  I'm still getting Herceptin (port is still in) through December.  As long as I have to get an infusion every 3 weeks (same room, same chairs, same nurses as chemo & surrounded by women getting the poison), I can't feel really "done".  Plus, my fall is shaping up to be crazy.  I can't really believe I'm doing this, but I'm going back through the whole promotion process again (did this last year, with infuriating/disappointing results that came at the same time as Dx).  It is like corporate hazing!  This time, though, my boss has already been promoted so the promotion slot should be "mine" so to speak.  I just have to prove it to the rest of senior management .  So, I am doing whatever I can to minimize other stresses this fall & not take on too much.  Post-treatment party will have to wait.

    DJJ, I'm with you on the impatience.  But I do notice improvement, even when it's verrrry gradual.  I'm starting work with a personal trainer.  I'm determined that whatever craziness work has in store for me, it's not going to be at the cost of exercise.  In the past, my own exercise is what has gone by the wayside when life (kids, work, etc) gets crazy.  Not anymore. 

    Confession - I have not started Tamoxifen yet.  My BC was only slightly ER+ (15%)/ PR+ (<5%).  I'm skeptical that it will be effective and I'm afraid of new SEs just as I'm finally starting to feel more normal.  By chance, I have not had an MO appointment since finishing rads (just the way the timing fell).  Next MO appointment is in 2 weeks.  I'm sure she's going to want me to start Tam.  I'm thinking I want to wait till I'm done with Herceptin.  HAving a hard time accepting the possibility of new SEs!

  • oranje_mama
    oranje_mama Member Posts: 260
    edited September 2014

    Oh, and forgot to post that I'm actually also in the wait for biopsy results . . . I noticed an odd little spot on my nose, went to the dermatologist who scraped it off & send it to the lab for biopsy.  He said that he does not think it's cancer, but just wants to be sure.  If it is cancer, it would be basal cell, and at this point, I'm like, whatever.  Nothing like BC! 

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited September 2014

    Kim, I should still be here....(smirk) I will write down the 11th on my calendar also....

    Holly, loved the link! So many smiles! How wonderful!

    Everyone is looking great and hopefully all these scans and tests come back clear! 

    Oranje - I know what you mean about not feeling "done."  I still have weekly Herceptin, until the end of January beginning of February. I love my onc, the nurses and my "Thursday peeps," but wish I felt closer to "done!"

  • DJJ
    DJJ Member Posts: 229
    edited September 2014

    Holli, What an amazing organization.  I loved the pictures.

    Oranje, Robin, Yup Herceptin until January 16th.  It's hard to feel done when I have to go sit in the same chairs every three weeks as with chemo.....grrrrrr

    Kim, I am PR and ER negative so don't have to be concerned about hormones.  I never thought I would wish to get my period back but at 42 I'm worried about all the other things that menopause causes.  Like bone loss.  How long do I wait to go talk to somebody about things I should be doing if I'm in menopause?  Do I need to take something for my bones? Do I need to increase weight training? What about diet? What about SEX??? etc. etc. etc. Oh and who do I talk to about it? a gynecologist? sigh...so many questions.  I think it's mostly that I'm tired of dealing with everything chemo has caused my body and I don't want to deal with anymore.  Dealing with my period for another ten years just seems easier Loopy

  • Jodi040812
    Jodi040812 Member Posts: 383
    edited September 2014

    Hi ladies!  This is more of a question medical post like we had during chemo/rads:). I have been struggling a bit and wonder what y'all think.  Started tamo and only thing I noticed at first was the dreams.  Lots of dreams and not feeling like I got fully rested.  My emotions are everywhere.  I get so irritated sometimes. Patience is gone at home.  This is hard because of the three girls.  This week, I have been quite tired and have had some headaches.  

    I just made it one month post rads.  Is this SE's of rads or meds???  Is it adjusting back to work?  And just had another cycle earlier in the week.  Can not believe even on tam I am having a cycle!!  Was not a regular one by all means, but this bugs me.  It has been awhile since we had a medical question lol!  Anyone got a clue or advice?

  • oranje_mama
    oranje_mama Member Posts: 260
    edited September 2014

    Jodi, I haven't started Tam (yet), and I have experienced (and am still experiencing) a lot of the same SEs.  I am 6 weeks from my last rad.  There seemed to be a turning point when I was on vacation (that was week 4 after rads).  Who knows if it was the passage of time or the vacation itself.  We were in the Adirondacks where the air is so clean, cool, and everyone said that they slept wonderfully (me too).  But I think it helped emotionally to get away and kind of separate in physical distance from the whole experience.  I'm still having a lot of the symptoms you mention but they are less frequent/intense (no cycle yet but my MO says its too early to tell if this is real menopause - I'm 43).  

    The one symptom you have that I haven't experienced is headaches. 

  • oranje_mama
    oranje_mama Member Posts: 260
    edited September 2014

    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

    Just got a call from the dermatologist.  I knew as soon as I picked up the phone with the doctor himself on the line.  It was a "very early" squamous cell carcinoma in situ.  There are two choices for treatment - a cream or Mohrs surgery.  He's recommending the cream.  Why oh why do I need to deal with this right now?!!!!

    Just venting.

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited September 2014

    Ahh Orange....so sorry.  Just when we think we've endured enough, more bull shit.  Virtual hug to you.

    I, too am heading up to the Adirondacks in a few week.  Can't wait for that crisp air!

  • Lisaj514
    Lisaj514 Member Posts: 719
    edited September 2014

    oh oranje, sorry more sh*t. Huggs. Glad you enjoyed the Adirondacks. Keep channelling that good feeling and keep putting yourself back there in your mind whenever needing to escape. 

    Jbokland, I'm an hour from old forge. I'll pm contact info

    Still waiting results of MRI..grrrrr. Called today and they said the rad dr that reads the breast mri's just got back from few days off and he hasn't gotten to mine yet. They can't say if it'll be today or tomorrow. I said the mo wanted it ASAP but MRI office person said the couldn't say when he would read it. They said they usually tell people results within a week, like you had Michele. Got my bone scan results back same day...come on people! So scanxiety setting in. Vacillate between feeling positive like it will be fine, I feel fine, to thinking about what will I do if I need more surgery or more chemo (can they do it again this soon)

    Omg holli, amazing post and pictures. I got tears in my eyes watching your family. We need the research generated from fundraising from walks and runs which has helped all of us get to where we are today, but also mental health, emotional healing that comes from retreats like this one and casting for recovery. Reconnecting with your family as well as other families that have gone through the same thing must have been amazing and you looked just gorgeous and happy

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    Here is me and my 2sisters and mom this weekend. Sisters have curly hair too, mom stick straight. Got so many compliments. I'm really liking how I look with this short hair and the white/gray is kind of growing on me...you know what I mean. 

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited September 2014

    I'm so sorry oranje.  I am praying for you.  I went to the doctors 2 weeks ago with what I thought was basal cell on my ear.  Turns out it is a cherry angioma.  (A cluster of blood vessels that come to the surface and look like a huge blood blister.)  I am get it removed in October.  Like you needed anymore crap.  That truly sucks.  I hope they can get it all without to much disturbance to your life.  Hugs!!!

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited September 2014


    Lisa, great picture!  Your hair looks great!

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited September 2014

    Oh Gosh oranje! So sorry you have something else to deal with. Don't worry about venting here! Good that you got it checked out. Good luck with your TX!

    I am loving everyone's pictures. 

    Jodi, I have been on Tam for about 4 months. Also noticed dreaming more or at least remembering more of my dreams! Insomnia seems to be my worst SE; a few hot flashes now and then. I am post-meno. I do go through some emotional times also. Sometimes, I have impatience and anger at times when I don't think it's appropriate, but I try not to dwell on it.  I think it is probably just part of how we process what we are going through. It's not over just because we finished our physical treatment and healing. Give yourself some time. You have a lot on your plate. I think I would be a basket case if I had young children to deal with on top of everything else. 

    Holli, so awesome that you got to go to the retreat with your family! What a great gift. 

    Lisa, hope you get those good test results soon!

    ((HUGS))

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited September 2014

    oh Oranje!! I'm so sorry. That sucks. Ugh!! What will the cream do? 

    Great picture Lisa. So having to wait for scan results? That sucks too. Keep us posted. 

    My pneumonitis is better. Still pretty short of breath and still crackles in the lung. Staying on 60mg of prednisone for one more week then reduce to 40mg for a week then follow up again with RO to see where we stand with improvement. Had to call PS today. Talked to his nurse. He will call me tomorrow but it looks like we will have to push phase 2b back. They won't do surgery on high dose steroids.  I know it's just a minor set back but I just wanted to be done by the end if the year.  

  • missy6758703
    missy6758703 Member Posts: 218
    edited September 2014

    Oranje, i would go with the scraping off or cutting out....my mom is a leukemia survivor and she quite often gets diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma and that is what she does.  She says its not painful and just leaves with a bandage on....hopefully it will be a simple process for your as well.  I hate to hear any word cancer though in our vocabulary!! Sorry you are going through this.  

    Lisa, I've been thinking of you so much since last week....love the term scanxiety!!! omg i can relate to that!! Please let us know as soon as you have your results.  Love the picture! 

    Robin, Happy Birthday!

    Holli, glad to hear you are feeling better!  Your video made me cry happy tears! Your family is beautiful and those smiles were priceless!

    Keepthefaith, what are you doing for your insomnia? I have also been on tamoxifen for 4 months and the insomnia is getting horrible.  I sleep maybe at the most 4 hours at night.  I have tried taking melatonin and nothing seems to work.......i'm at a loss for what to do.  My joints also hurt so bad.  I think that is part of my not sleeping reason as well, i just can't get comfortable with my hips hurting.  This weekend i probably didn't help matters since i painted one of the bathrooms and was getting up and down on a kitchen chair to reach higher up.....i think i should invest in a ladder! ha! Found muscles that had been lost for quite some time now! :)

    I've been finding myself in a great mood lately........i've tried to remember how far i've come in the last year and how much my life has changed. I would have never dreamed last year at this time where my life was going to be headed come October.  I'm happy where I am now.....I definitely have my worries, but i'm in a happy spot and hope to stay here for quite some time.

    Hello to everybody else! Love seeing the pictures and the progress reports......life is moving along, isn't it? 

    My hair looks like a freakin poodle......omg i hate it.  I'm ready to go in for my second haircut already......hate this damn poof the curls are creating.  I put stuff on it but my chubby cheeks don't need the poodle poof over my ears!! I've never had curl so this is all foreign to me and i have no clue how to fix it.  

    I got a packet in the mail today from Mayo Clinic with paperwork to fill out before my appt.'s there next month.....I suppose I should get it filled in.  I have come to HATE paperwork! I've gotten really really good at procrastinating!! :) 

    My daughter Kelli was supposed to have left for college in Fargo 4 hours away a couple of weeks ago and at the last minute she changed her mind and is going to the University here and still living with me.  She insists it was to save on the cost and that she was worried about the financial part of it, but deep down I think the reality of leaving me alone here sort of hit her and she didn't want to leave me since she was the one  taking care of me this last year......she's a great kid, but worry that she is sacrificing her dreams to take care of her ol' mom.....I hope not.  

    Good night my friends! 

    Michelle

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited September 2014

    Oranje-definitely not what you needed. Happy you have different options. Not happy that the battle is still on. 

    Michelle-thank you!

    Great pics!

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited September 2014

    I've posted this on a few boards, but I am so excited about what the YMCA is offering cancer survivors....12 weeks FREE personal training in their Live Strong program, for you and your caregiver!  We have full access to the Y and they gave me a shirt to proudly wear;

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  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited September 2014

    I have to look into that! Thanks jbokland!

    Poo...no programs in AZ...

  • Carol99
    Carol99 Member Posts: 116
    edited September 2014

    good morning, 

    Holly, love your blog post, you write so well.  I feel the same "My bald head, port, and scars were all the reminders I needed", who needs to wear pink? 

    Robin, I take Effexor for hot flashes, it def. helps.  I'm much more relaxed too!  I'm having trouble losing weight though, I've read that some women feel it slows their metabolism?  

    I'm trying to lose about 10 lbs., just started the "4 hour body".  We'll see. . . 

    DJJ, my Gyno is the one who I talk too about menopause, i do more weight training, calcium, fish oil, multi vitamins without the extra iron.  I'm 45, at 42 I had my ovaries removed.  Sex?  It's a little more effort, shall we say!

    Lisa, I also have soreness, I don't know if it's from working out, age, or worse.  It's like stiffness after I'm sitting or when I get up in the a.m.  

    I see my oncol 9/16 for my 6 month.

    Mikesgirl, your hair looks awesome!  Mine is curley, I'm past trendy on to, what the hell is she going for?  Mulletish! 

     Love all the pics, here's mine

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  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited September 2014

    NEskir.....Gorgeous!!!! 

    I haven't really checked on the Effexor, but Tamoxifen is a different story. I have seen many posts about Tamoxifen making it more difficult to lose weight and some people have gained on it. I needed to lose 7 lbs before chemo to get to my "ideal" weight. Now I need to lose almost 30lbs. Hence, the bike, yoga, doings laps in my pool, walking....really need to start using my Pilates DVD and Wii Fit. 

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited September 2014
  • oranje_mama
    oranje_mama Member Posts: 260
    edited September 2014

    Neskir, whatever you want to call your hairstyle, it's gorgeous!  I'm soooooooooooooooo jealous of everyone's hair.  I'm wigless but still dealing with people's shocked expressions every day.  My hair is just not long enough to be at the point where you assume I cut it on purpose.  Now I get to add bandages and/or peeling red skin on my nose to my look.  whoopee!

    Jbokland, The livestrong Y program sounds awesome!  

    On the good news front, I've lost all the weight that I gained since Dx - 15 lbs.   I am losing very slowly already (took me 4 months to lose 15 lbs), and I'm not even on Tam.  Another reason why I am not pushing to start Tam soon!  I will be starting with the personal trainer in a couple of weeks, and I'm actually looking forward to that :).  I'm not sure how to determine what my "ideal" weight is at this point.  When I was in the best shape of my life (as a competitive rower during college), I was actually pretty "heavy" because I was solid muscle.  My lowest weight was when I was in mid-20s and wearing a size 6.  Since that was nearly 20 years & 2 babies ago, that weight can't be realistic (even if a standard chart would tell me that it is).  If I could lose another 20-25 lbs, I would be happy. But, really  I just want to feel good, or at least feel as good as possible.  I also feel "creaky" when I get up in the morning.   Maybe that will never go away, I don't know.  I do feel my energy level rising ever so gradually.

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited September 2014

    Great photos, as always!

    Michelle, not really doing anything for insomnia...I was drinking bedtime tea, but it makes me pee in the middle of the night. I am hoping once my Vit D levels get up into the normal range, maybe it will help. I am restless for a couple nights, then, my body is so tired, I finally sleep the third night. Not, good, I know. I have noticed more vivid dreams and not taking Melatonin. I have heard that can make dreaming worse, sometime nightmares. Trying to walk regularly. Haven't seen any changes on the scale though. Although, I have not gained (knock on wood) since starting Tam. I really don't consume that many calories, so that's probably the only reason. If I ate like a normal person, I would probably have already gained 20 lbs. My metabolism is probably off, too. 

    oranje, good for you for the weight loss! 

    Holli, I hope you can ditch the steroids soon! Speaking of insomnia...

    MO says my Vit D is now at 24.8, up from 17...UGH. Now I will be upping my dose...at least it's climbing. 

    Have a great week-end, ladies! 

    Grandparents'  Day is Sunday!!:)

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited September 2014

    cancer sucks, I spent the past few days 3 hours away at a speciality vet where my little dog was formally diagnosed with bladder cancer that is not surgically resectable. 

    She is only 10 and her breed usually live 15-18 years.  Vet is talking cyber-knife RT and chemo as possibilities.  She was at my side all through my treatment so I will be at hers. I keep thinking of Robin and losing her dog, also too early to cancer. 

    My friend took these pictures at lunch yesterday.  Eye make up all gone after a morning of crying. 

    Still not sure who the gray haired lady is looking back at me in the mirror. 

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  • Lisaj514
    Lisaj514 Member Posts: 719
    edited September 2014

    ok so got my MRI results. Good news but here's how it went. First, doc called me at home with results and I wasn't home (ugh always happens that way right? Waited around then just went out for a little and she calls even though I told to cal, cell too), she left a message saying, word for word "I got your MRI results and it actually looks good but there are a couple of caveats I want to discuss with you". Ok what? Worried now. Called her back but she had left for the day...oh nooooooo and the sec couldn't get a hold of her of course. Nooo couldn't wait another day. So I called her mom, yes that's what I said. Her mom used to watch my kids when they were little. My mo lives in same town as her mom. They both live close by to me. I called her and told her that I had just missed her daughter at the office and I was very anxious about some test results. She said she'd call her daughter ask if she could call me at home. Which she did later that evening and was fine with it. She said she felt bad she missed me at home knowing how anxious I was about this and wasn't upset that I used her mom to get to her! So she said that the R breast, the one I was worried about looked perfectly normal, no areas of concern, even with the lumpiness I feel. Lumpy breasts, I've been told that so many times. The left nipple though had very slight uptake, very minuscule she said and prob from recent radiation. She would talk to radiologist further and get more explanation. She called me again today and said the uptake is right in the nipple itself surface and not in breast tissue at all and very very slight. The rad doc was not worried with how it looked. She said she's not worried. I know that often mri's are too sensitive with many false positives of areas of concern. I am going with everything is ok and just have to keep my mind there! Good day! but how do we keep our mind out of the gutter when it keeps wanting to go there?

    Neskir,  you look absolutely beautiful with that hair. Is it colored?

    Oranje, good luck with the nose thing. Keep us updated. I'm sure your hair looks better than you think. And you have always been athletic, you should be able to loose the weight easily, you've done great so far

    Michelle, Kelli will find her way and will do what feels right. Guide her as needed and ask her if she is staying home because of you? She may just not be ready to go away yet and the saving $ is a big deal. So many kids have too much debt for college so  saving where possible is being responsible. She can still go away in a yr or two if this is not working out.

    And yes everyone...my feet and legs still hurt also! What is this?! Im walking/running 2-3 miles 4-5xwk. Feet ache when I finish, in the morning, after sitting or standing. I'm trying curcumin/tumeric capsules. Supposed to help with inflammation. Can't hurt.

    Keepthefaith, I'm taking 5000iu of vit d. My levels were 54 last time checked which is above normal but Want to get up over 60

    Oh barb, so sorry for your cute little dog. Precious . Is that a doggie stroller in the background? She sounds like a good loyal dog. (Your hair is getting long also, never mind the gray)

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited September 2014

    yeah Lisa!   Good for you chasing down the doc.  I would have done the same!

    Barb- what a sweet puppy.  So sorry for your heartbreak. 

    I had a little glimpse of LE after overdoing at the Y.  Scared the hell out of me and made sure to do all the lymph massages and it helped!

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited September 2014

    Lisa, I don't know how to keep our minds away from the dark places they go. If I did, I would readily share that with you. I think it is a matter of not allowing them to stay there. MO and RO not being overly concerned would help to calm me down, but I am pretty sure I would still have some level of concern. 

    Barbara, I am so sorry the news wasn't better. It sounds like there are some treatment options. I couldn't put Spirit through the chemo, and her lymphoma was too advanced for it to have been very effective. I have heard that dogs don't get as sick as we do, but she got sick from antibiotics, anesthesia, etcetera... Felt there was a strong chance she would not do well with chemo and it really doesn't buy that much extra time with lymphoma. Such a difficult position to be in. Sending you virtual {{{ hugs.}}}

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited September 2014

    Lisa, glad to hear the good news! It sounds like your Dr's are on top of things. Great that you ran her down....love that story. 

    Barbara, so sorry to hear the news of your pup. It's so hard when they can't tell you how they feel or hurt, if they do. My first boxer was 7 yrs old and had lymphoma. She had chemo and did pretty well with it. I think she felt good for the most part and it gave us another yr or so with her. Your pup is so pretty! 

    MO said to increase to 3000 IU's of Vit D, but I think I will do 4000. I never asked her what she thought my level should be.

    Have a great week-end ladies!

    I had a potential client tell me today that she was DX'd with BC a few weeks ago...has to have a second surgery for unclean margins...hate to hear that. When I am talking to her, it's like I almost forgot how scared I was back then and it seems almost like I was talking about someone else. Weird.

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited September 2014

    Crazywabbit, I'm sorry about your dog:(

  • Mikesgirl17
    Mikesgirl17 Member Posts: 260
    edited September 2014

    Lisa, I'm glad you got the test results.  Try not to worry.

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