Need advice for returning to excercise
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I have mild-mod LE. Recently had the bypass procedure & seeing results. The swelling has decreased a lot but of course it is not gone. I will prob get the ok to excercise at 6 weeks post op. It's ok for me to walk now at 4, but I would like to get back to running, etc. Prior to cancer & bypass I did crossfit. I'm not sure I'll be able to or should do that type of hardcore excercise again. I'd love to work back up to that but I'm sure this will take a long time. I don't have money for a trainer. I was thinking starting w mat Pilates or maybe yoga. But I don't really know where to start ie what I should & shouldn't do. I've read the recommendations of start low go slow but it's really hard for me to gauge as I was an avid exerciser before (a bit obsessed actually). Maybe there is yoga for s/p breast ca & LE???? There is an excellent studio by my house. I could use the relaxation aspect of yoga. Any advice from anyone who has 'started all over again' would be great.
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Amoc, here are two resources, one for trainers and exercise instructors, and the other for LE patients. You won't be using a trainer, but the trainer/instructor document is great to give the Pilates and yoga instructors.
http://stepup-speakout.org/Trainer%20doc%20for%20S...
http://stepup-speakout.org/Handout%20doc%20for%20S...
Also, Naomi Aaronson is an OT who works a lot with LE patients, and she's also a Pilates expert. She's written a book that is due to come out any day now: http://www.amazon.com/Pilates-Breast-Cancer-Survi...
I hope you'll find these resources helpful. Getting back to exercise for a cross-fit'er must in large measure mean getting back to your real life and reclaiming some sanity! Have you ever seen Debra Cordner Carson? She's an elite cross-fit athlete with leg LE. If you google her name, you'll find some videos that are quite inspirational. She didn't have the surgery that you did (as far as I know), so your precautions are in new territory, but still...I'll bet that with lots of time and tons of patience you'll regain a good amount of fitness you've had to concede to LE and BC.
Carol
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Thanks Carol.I've actually corresponded w Deborah via email. She told me how she worked back into being an athlete. I've saved the emails & refer to them at times. She's pretty amazing. I'm not sure I'd b happy w yoga & Pilates. It's never been my thing. The guy that runs the crossfit I go to has been a trainer for years. I'll give him those guidelines & maybe he can make me a little program. I was working out up until this last surgery....so I guess I'm not starting totally from scratch, but close
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She is an amazing woman. I met her briefly at a National Lymphedema Network conference, and she was incredibly patient with all the people who wanted to exchange a few words with her, after she gave a hugely motivating keynote address. I'm no athlete but I do take strength training seriously, and it has been slow but so far I've never had any LE flares from it (But I'm sure not lifting much compared to anyone who does Cross Fit!). My trainer runs cross fit classes in our gym, and until recently he competed in power lifting--he has a world record for his age/weight in one federation. He really grabbed onto the LE guidelines and has been incredibly supportive of my need to adapt, while still pushing me. He's a real perfectionist on form, which he finds helps deliver the most power possible in a lift when he's competing, and the benefit to me is that he really knows form, and he watches me like a hawk to help prevent injury. That's incredibly valuable when you have LE, and I'll bet your trainer has the same expertise and will help keep you out of trouble.
You might get in touch with the lead personal trainer in the PAL Trial (which established the basis for what we know about strength training guidelines with LE). I organized a workshop for her to bring to our little town, for my trainer and others in the area, and it was great. She's a great resource and I think she would spend some time on the phone with you and your cross-fit trainer, if he and you found that worthwhile. The spookiest part of cross-fit that I would worry about is there seems to be a lot of body-weight work, where it's hard to be sure you're adding resistance in slow, small doses. But you were and are an athlete and that's a great jumping-back-in advantage. If you would like to contact the PAL trainer, you can find her here http://cancersurvivorfitness.com/. We have stayed in touch and I would be happy to make a more personal introduction if you like--just PM me.
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Check out the 'Lets Post Our Daily Exercise' thread on the Fitness Forum. We have a couple ladies who have LE and are avid exercisers. They will definitely be able to give you some tips. One of them, Natsfan, comes to mind as someone who could answer many of your questions. Come over to the thread and/or send her a PM, or I could hook you up with her if you'd like.
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Thanks guys! Before BC I would say I was close to an athlete but since then even tho I was still going to the crossfit gym I was lifting no where near the weight I once did (maybe 1/4). It s hard to gage the pushups, etc. I would think the same would happen in yoga as seems it's all body weight based as well. I may call my guy & I'll send him the guidelines. Maybe I can start small & workout on my own until i return to the actual 'gym' so I don't do anything dumb out of peer pressure. My pride sometimes will do that when I'm doing these crossfit classes. Good news is my arm is much better since my bypass one month ago. I believe I'm now going to have to wrap 24/7 for next few weeks so I'm going to only be walking til that is over with. I guess I could do squats, abs, etc....while wrapped. I'm just eager to be 'normal' again & getting back to workouts would help me get there.
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And come over to the exercise thread if you want.....we have lots of fun!
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There is also the Kicking LE's Butt Exercise and Self-care Log thread on here.I had worked out with a trainer before LE and was doing all kinds of weight lifting and punching the heavy bag, etc. Really working on doing pull-ups as that was one of my goals. I tried to get back into about 6 months after MX, but I developed LE. Was it the push-ups? The planks? I don't know, but I think I probably did too much too soon.
I think you could probably do a lot of lower body work, but start really slowly with the upper body. If you have a good trainer and he/she is willing to read the info. that would be great.
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