alternitive is only real hope for stag 4 mets

there were sites mentioned in the disappeared forum, when I went to look for them the forum was gone.  but I think most of these are for all cancers not just breast & therefore not just mostly women

this is BCO...and here we have chemo and alternative subforums. may i ask why can't ppl respect others and praise chemo on the chemo thread and let us discuss alternative here? it's just a little RESPECT. where am i supposed to go? it's a free country right?! or only when i share the same view with you or else i should STFU and go somewhere else? i have BC and i want something different than conventional. i though here is a little place we could share and some ppl feel the need to come in here and tell us that we are suicidal or foolish. 

June, nobody said that. One poster, Hindsfeet, expressed doubt as to the efficacy of alternative treatment.

Inga, according to the fundme page, has been through several treatment approaches that didn't work and left her progressing to stage IV. That is upsetting to most decent people. 

I have 2 words for the title of this thread: INCREDIBLY OFFENSIVE.

Deleted by Mrs. M

Ditto to what Mrs M said...AND It's weird but so many controversial threads end up as Alternative Medicine topics and sadly, I can't take them seriously because they (the topics) end up sounding like snake-oil remedies. 

I also love the recommendation to get to know the BCO members first.

Just because someone is new and they are not familiar with the unwelcoming culture here at bco, it is no reason to be cruel to them. She has not done anything to any of you. Mercy. 

Inga, I would like to hear the stories of the people you know personally that were cured of late stage cancer by alternative means. I am one of those searching for corroboration of claims that alternative treatments work, but so far have not seen any proof of this. I don't think people want to/need to be cruel (or I hope not) when expressing their disbelief that alternative treatments work. Speaking for myself, I am sceptical of claims without proof and am searching for convincing evidence before going that route. I mean no disrespect to anyone who choose to believe without proof, but I would welcome if anyone on the alternative forum could provide clear and direct evidence of any alternative treatment that has worked. Believe me, I would jump on that immediately !!

I haven't been cruel at all. Just stating my opinion and my observations. Did you read the part where I said you are entitled to your opinion? 

If you're not stage iv then you have no stage iv experience from which to speak. I won't spend much time on this topic. Just saying that the title is inflamatory. And after reading numerous posts by the OP, to me she comes across as somewhat scattered, so I'm not inclined to think she's any kind of expert on the matter. However, if she feels her methods are working for her, more power to her. I just don't see how you can claim to be two years stage iv with the disease and feel you have all the answers. Again, this is an observation. 

I could go on, but people hear what they want to hear, see what they want to see and believe what they want to believe. It's not up to me to get you to change your opinion whatever it may be.  Peace out, sisters.

Debic, Herceptin has helped many women. You may want to look at some of the studies on cannabis and join some alternative cancer groups. That way you can follow people yourself and see how they are doing. I'm following several women on cannabis oil right now. Some of the stories are inspiring and bring tears to my eyes. I believe there is hope.  I have good reason to believe it.  I think we have to change with the times and keep our eyes and ears open, and trust ourselves. Here's some studies on cannabis.

http://www.molecular-cancer.com/content/9/1/196

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21566064

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20859676

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24373545

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23394450

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabi... 

http://www.pnas.org/content/95/14/8375.full.pdf+ht...

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/early/2006/0..

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"In conclusion, our data indicate that cannabidiol, and possibly
Cannabis extracts enriched in this natural cannabinoid, represent a
promising non-psychoactive antineoplastic strategy. In particular, for a
highly malignant human breast carcinoma cell line we have shown here
that cannabidiol and a cannabidiol-rich extract counteract cell growth
both in vivo and in vitro as well as tumor metastasis in vivo.
Cannabidiol exerts its effects on these cells through a combination of
mechanisms that include either direct or indirect activation of CB2 and
TRPV1 receptors, and induction of oxidative stress, all contributing to
induce apoptosis. Additional investigations are required to understand
the mechanism of the growth inhibitory action of cannabidiol in the
other cancer cell lines studied here."
Cannabinoids reduce ErbB2-driven breast cancer progression through Akt
inhibition
www.molecular-cancer.com.

Mrs. M, if you stand by what you said to Inga, then maybe you shouldn't have deleted your post. I certainly didn't ask you to delete it. I commented with my own observation.. This is the alternative forum. I really don't think she titled her thread to offend you, and it was not meant as a declarative statement, just sharing her own story...from an alternative perspective..here on the alternative forum.  

now don't get me wrong I'm all for alt treatments. Having said that I really don't understand the hype about THC or cannabis oil as some call it. As far as I'm aware there has only been a single clinical study on it. It was in Spain. On 9 patients with aggro brain tumours. The tumours were injected 90% pure THC and all the patients expired. Yes they lived longer but they all died. Part of treatment yes cure no. But like the lady who said a few posts ago, people hear what they wanna hear. I sound like anti alt but I'm not. I somehow can't bring myself to like THC.

lightandwind, the reason I deleted my second post is because this is the alternative forum, and what I'd written was more a general statement regarding breastcancer.org, and not alternative specific. I was expressing views that veered off the topic so I chose to take it out. I certainly stand by my belief in what I wrote which is that sometimes newbies join the forum immediately professing to have all the answers without getting to know the members here who've been dealing with stage iv bc for years and it can be off putting. There was nothing cruel in the post whatsoever.  It was my choice to delete the post; I didn't do it because anyone asked me to.

When someone on any thread on this site posts something about stage iv, they are opening themselves up to get some views and comments from those dealing with stage iv, alternative or not, and even more so when posting with an inflammatory title, whether a provocative title is intentional or not.

It would be the same thing if I were to go on the stage iv forum and post a thread titled something like: "stage iv bc women who only use alternative treatment are missing the boat".  I'm pretty sure that'd bring out a response from the alternative community even tho it wasn't posted in the alternative section.

I'm reading with interest generalized posts about alternative health centers in the southwest, and validated remissions from canabis.  Could someone please list some sources? 

inga,

Thank you for that clarification. Using alternative tx, after having exhausted all conventional tx, is a very different situation than your thread title suggested.