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  • Ally2345
    Ally2345 Member Posts: 320
    edited August 2014

    Zeeba, Ml, Lipgloss and Sunny-  Sure thinking of you today!!  We are all with you and you will rock your procedures!!

    Ml-  So sorry for the loss of Kheelan...it is so hard to lose a family member.

    Sassy-  Hoping for a great report!!

    Imhere-  Wow, what an experience.  Sorry you got treated like that.  I have been fortunate that almost every nurse I have had has been wonderful.  Keep us in the loop as you continue down this journey!

    Lori-  Hope you are feeling better!

    Psalm and Millaandra-  You are on deck...Friday will be a great day!!

    I sort of lost track of what stage everyone is in but am sure thinking of my August sisters.  Right now I am working two jobs...sort of a long story.  It is hard for me to get on-line and check the site but I am sending my prayers and best wishes to all that are recovering, to those undergoing procedures and to those preparing.  You are a great group of ladies!!

    Ally2345

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited August 2014

    And now I have lymphatic cording under my arm. Grrrrrrrrrrr

  • Milaandra
    Milaandra Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2014

    Well bummer.  Bone scan showed mets in several spots and the CT scan showed cancer in lymph nodes in my chest area and a questionable spot on my liver.  My lumpectomy is getting smaller and smaller, though, since they don't have to take any lymph nodes.  Now they are talking about letting me go home that night.  The surgeon seems to think they'll use hormone therapy for the mets, rather than chemo...I hope he's right!

  • Imheretoo
    Imheretoo Member Posts: 217
    edited August 2014

    Oh Milaandra!!! OK wait though (as my heart is racing and head is spinning) --- I guess you're saying that the docs saw signs of focal uptake of tracer on the bone scan (was a scintigraphy scan, right???) that could be consistent with bone mets---- But they haven't done a bone biopsy to confirm that,  is that right??  (or am I just reading into your words what I want  to hear??)    (I'm asking this because the scintigraphy exam is non-specific and not everything that shows up in a bone scint scan is a met, so I'm just wondering:  Did the docs tell you specificallly that you have bone mets or did they just say that something not encouraging/worrisome  showed up on your bone scan,-- and you've put it together and answered "mets"?)      Maybe at this point docs don't feel it's the case to subject you to a bone biopsy,  since, for now, at least, the therapy they'd use is the same regardless???     Anyway-- regardless of what the answer to those questions are, Hormone therapy rather than chemo would be great!!!      And getting out of hospital soon is always good.    

    Hugs (gentle) for all you're going through!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!        

  • Milaandra
    Milaandra Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2014

    Thanks Imhereto. They said Mets...I guess that's why they didn't give me the bone scan results until the CT scan results came in, too. Maybe that helped them diagnose? I asked if it could be anything else and they said "no".  But they also gave me the impression that it wasn't eroding at this stage. Maybe I wanted to hear that!  :-D  I need to get them to give me copies of the reports. Or like you said, the treatment would be the same anyway! God, I have to tell my sister...I want to get that over with, but she isn't home yet. Poor hubby is all freaked out and had to go to work like that.

  • Ally2345
    Ally2345 Member Posts: 320
    edited August 2014

    Milaandra-  So sorry you are having to take on this extra burden right now.  I think I follow after reading Imheretoo's post but this stuff is so confusing and overwhelming.  Sending lots of prayers your way!!

    Jules-  A big UGH on the cording...that just stinks.  Does massage therapy help with that?  Sure hope so!

    Big GENTLE hugs to all!

    Ally2345

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited August 2014

    milaandra. I am so sorry. It's hard enough going into surgery,  now with this news!! Love and hugs!! 

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited August 2014

    TY ally I am set up with a PT appt for the cording, hopefully it helps!

  • Imheretoo
    Imheretoo Member Posts: 217
    edited August 2014

    Milaandra-  I wasn't thinking about the fact that they could have (must have) looked at the bones with the CAT scan, too, and not just the liver and lymph nodes that you had mentioned.

    OK Milaandra-- Take it for what it is:    Something to be contained as much as possible, to be limited as much as is possible, a situation to be kept as much as possible "not eroding", to be dealt with using all the arms that are available and most appropriate and effective.   Something to be accepted and to be lived with.       One step at a time.     

    (and if you think I'm saying that matter of factly and calmly, and not with my heart pounding and my hair standing on end, you're wrong.) 

    The sisters in the bone mets forums will have lots better and more appropriate advice and information for you, so if you haven't popped in there yet you should.     

     But please, if it's not too stressful for you,  keep also us informed about any new info you get about your situation and therapy plan and progress and just plain how you feel, also emotionally.       You may think this is weird, but after reading your few posts, I feel close to you.    ---Don't feel obligated to post in a million places, though ---   or any at all if you just need to concentrate your communicating energies on family and those truly important in your life.     

  • bobogirl
    bobogirl Member Posts: 2,777
    edited August 2014

    Okay, thinking of Jules and her cording and Milaandra!  I must say -- I am so impressed with the sisters of August.  You guys are wonderful people to have in your corner when the going gets tough.  Millandra, I second I'm here too -- we are with you if you need us.

    Ally2345 -- hello!  I am working two jobs too!  I keep wanting to ask you to coffee, but I am completely swamped.  Afraid if I don't set it up we will never see each other!

    Thinking of those in sx, and waiting to hear progress. XXX

  • Imheretoo
    Imheretoo Member Posts: 217
    edited August 2014

    Jules,   I'm so sorry the lymph node removal is causing you problems!    Glad you've already got a physical therapist appointment set up.

  • Allydp
    Allydp Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2014

    Milaandra - I am in complete shock right now and wish I could time travel and come surround you in support and comfort. You said your husband had to go to work…do you have anyone you can call? I hate the idea of you being alone with this news right now. As Imhere mentioned, there is a bone mets board here full of wonderful, wonderful women who are extremely knowledgeable and can help you sort out all of the information coming at you. 

    You are a fighter and I know, with all of my heart, that you will fight this! Please, when you feel up to it, let us know how you're doing and what the plan is. WE ARE ALL HERE FOR YOU. I will be praying for you for strength and courage as you navigate the next few days and devise a good plan with your doctors. 

    Love and hugs,

    Alicia

  • Allydp
    Allydp Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2014

    Jules - so glad you were able to get set up with PT so quickly. 

    Zeeb, Ml, Sunny, Lipgloss - thinking of you all and hoping you're resting comfortably.

    My heart is so heavy for our sister, Miaandra, tonight. I hate cancer. Sending everyone gentle hugs. 

  • Allydp
    Allydp Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2014

    I didn't want to post this, but I'm getting a little worried. I got the rest of my drains out today and my PS also did my first fill. I got 180 cc's at sx and then 60 cc's today, so that's 240 cc's already. I'm in agony. My upper back and shoulder blades are on fire, as well as my peck muscles. Pain meds aren't touching it and neither is valium. How long before things start to settle? I think I can power through if I have an end time in sight. Thanks. 

  • Sassy_Seven
    Sassy_Seven Member Posts: 47
    edited August 2014

    Thanks, Imheretoo. I did have clear margins. I was being sarcastic about it because he took out so much... Yes, it is great to know it is all gone!!

  • Sassy_Seven
    Sassy_Seven Member Posts: 47
    edited August 2014

    Oh my gosh, Milaandra! that is such hard news to hear. I hope you get clarity about it soon and know that we are here for you.

    Sorry to hear about your cording, Jules. Sounds like you are on it.

    Allydp, so glad you posted your pain (not that you are in pain) and feelings! Thinking about you and wishing I had some input. Yay, drains out!

    Hugs and thoughts to all the other August sisters! You are all rockstars! 

    I admire you ladies who can go through 19 pages of posts and keep everyone and everything straight with positive, powerful responses and support.

    xoxo

  • Sassy_Seven
    Sassy_Seven Member Posts: 47
    edited August 2014

    Zeeba, Ml143333, SunnyC, Lipglossmom: Thinking about you all today! Let us know how you are when you can. Hugs.

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited August 2014

    Oh no allydp I'm so so sorry!!!! I wish I had some words of encouragement from experience. 

    Milaandra we will be with you tomorrow and beyond!!!

    Thanks for the love and encouragement everyone!!

  • Milaandra
    Milaandra Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2014

    I'm here chugging down my whey protein and almond milk breakfast and being very grateful for your genuine concern. I need to just get empowered, ignore the number and think of this like any other chronic disease...like asthma. No one freaks out about having asthma! I really do believe that the body is capable of great healing if we give it the support and reduce the toxins like stress. So...a little sidetrack, if you don't mind? What are your favourite places in the world? I started thinking about that because of Imheretoo in Italy...what I've seen of Italy I love, love, love! (except Naples) In May we took the regional bus from Florence to Siena along the Chiantigiana and stopped in Panzano for a lovely lunch, drinking local wine looking out over the most gorgeous views.

    What are some of your favorite's?

  • cateyz2
    cateyz2 Member Posts: 419
    edited August 2014


    AllyDP, the pain should subside in a day or two. The first few fills tend to spread out along the edges of the TE "spreading" it out. I did find subsequent fills were not as bad as the first one currently is could be resting on a nerve and then the last one was a bit uncomfortable. I did go and have a back massage about halfway thru fills. Think of it this way since the TE is pushing your muscles out in front, they are also pulling on your back muscles.

    I have  not kept up with this group and Im sorry but life has been very hectic trying to prepare for my recent surgery, but now that Im off work for a few weeks should be able to check in more often.

    Hugs to all of you wonderful ladies

  • Ally2345
    Ally2345 Member Posts: 320
    edited August 2014

    Milaandra-  I love your area of the world..my family took a trip a few years back to London then into Scotland.  We sort of hit 4 cities with a brief highlight of each.  Just loved the history of Edinburgh and the beautiful countryside.  Was even able to stay at Glen Eagles a night and the area around there is beautiful.  I am also a fan of Italy.  Went there on our honeymoon...Amalfi.  So beautiful.  Can't wait to read other responses!!

    Bobo-  We WILL get together for coffee!!  Have to catch up with you.  I hope things are on track and been thinking of you!!

    Allydp-  I received 60 ccs once a week for 5 weeks.  It was tolerable but the night of the first few fills, my chest would spasm a bit.  Sometimes I took a valium to sleep at night.  About the third fill, it felt fine.  No issues.  The last one, however, was a bit tight and uncomfortable.  Drop down to 30 or 40 ccs.  No need to push yourself.  So glad you got the drains out...one less thing to manage!

    Jules-  Good luck with the PT!!

    Thinking of all the ladies who had procedures yesterday...the next day was the most difficult for me but each day after was better and better.  Wishing you all a wonderful recovery!

    Hugs to all!

    Ally2345

  • Juliecc
    Juliecc Member Posts: 4,868
    edited August 2014

    Milaandra, I'm very sorry about your scan results.  Let us know how you are doing.

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited August 2014

    Drain is out!!!!!!!  Since I don't have any TE's the BS's drainage limit for removal is higher.

  • Imheretoo
    Imheretoo Member Posts: 217
    edited August 2014

    For Milaandra (and everyone else who needs it):

    This waterfall is my healing place in Italy. It's in Sardinia (the island where I live). Sardinia does not have a lot of trees or fresh water. This is a special, almost secret place I go to in times of need, and I feel that it does heal me "spiritually". (BTW, the last picture is me washing away the stress while waiting to get a surgery date.)    (waterfall is called "Sos Mulinos")

    My second favorite place in Sardinia is a big canyon called Su Gorroppu.    That's the next 3 pics.

    For those who prefer the soft lull or gentle crash of the sea, I'm putting pics also of my favorite Sardinian coastal sites.    

    I hope these pics help you travel with your mind, to cleanse the stress from your soul and heal your body. 

    Other places that are special to me in the world: 

    A little place in the middle of nowhere in the woods in Canada, just north off the border with Maine USA. No-one was there but us (husband and me) and a wandering group of Moose. 

    Favorite places in the USA, -----Bryce Canyon and Zion Canyon-- Not a places to go to be alone, but the powerful beauty of the nature there can't help but be healing.

    Yes Milaandra you are exactly right. Don't allow stress to poison you and feed the cancer.    

    imagephoto sosmolinos1_zps14af3fa9.jpg" />imagephoto sosmolinos2_zps07fb96db.jpg" />imagephoto sosmolinos-me_zps7a68cdf5.jpg" />imagephoto shiraogliastrainterne128_zpsf32753c6.jpg" />imagephoto shiraogliastrainterne149_zps838f5b92.jpg" />imagephoto shiraogliastrainterne148_zpsca7e0c30.jpg" />

    imagephoto 1272574_1415939471951381_18905911_o.jpg" />imagePhoto taken in Spring, before Micah and Joshua's visit. photo 704109_1415594785319183_405257092_o.jpg" />imagephoto shiraogliastrainterne001_zps8397e89d.jpg" />

    imageIt's the best kept secret in Sardinia!!   (ssshh, let's keep it this way!!) photo 1277517_1416928795185782_1090907484_o.jpg" /

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  • Milaandra
    Milaandra Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2014

    Oh yes...Amalfi! I was there for a short while during a shore excursion tour of the Amalfi coast and I have to go back!

    I called the.nurse and got more info. The bone scan showed hotspots at the l4, t7 and t1, plus posterior left rib 6. No holes. The CT wasn't definite, but indicated a possible single spot in the liver. What the surgeon interpreted as cancerous lymph nodes were in the pleural area. All classic BC Mets, so if it looks like a duck...

    The only pain I've had is in my right hip, which I thought was muscular due to poor sitting posture at work (and a misguided choice to ride a camel in March lol!) but now I'm not sure. It could be the lumbar met, couldn't?

    I'll go on letrozole and a biphosphorate. It will be up to the oncologist to determine if I'll be getting rads anywhere. I'll see him/her after my first appointment following my surgery.

    If anyone knows anything about any of this stuff, let me know. Thanks

  • Imheretoo
    Imheretoo Member Posts: 217
    edited August 2014

    Thanks for the update Milaandra.     D*mn ducks!!!     I hope you do well on those drugs and they do not cause you any disturbances.       By the way, it seems like most people on these boards refer to Letrozole by it's brand name Femara.    I just thought adding that might help you get more responses by people who have used it.       You can find a bit of info about it (looking up brand name Femara) on the main Breastcancer.org part of this website.     (look under Treatments and Side Effects >>>>>Drugs for Treatment and Risk Reduction >>>>Femara,   and also under Treatments and side effects>>>>Hormonal Therapy>>>>>>Aromatase Inhibitors

    Biphosphonates (I guess thats what you mean when you wrote Biphosphorate?) are used to reduce malignancy-induced bone loss.    They also appear to slow the development of bone metastases in some people.     See this web page by cancer research uk for some info 

    http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-help/about-...

    Well--- Tomorrow they'll cut the tumor out of your breast.     Sure hope you get through that with very little pain!

  • Imheretoo
    Imheretoo Member Posts: 217
    edited August 2014

    Did my peaceful place pics come out as icons for everyone?      I saw them fine until I pressed submit, and then they shrivelled into those little square thingies.      hmmmm    Maybe I posted too much in one post?

    Allydp-- I'm so sorry you're experiencing all that horrible pain!    I hope, at least,  that Cateyz2 's experience turns out to be the same for you.

    Hoping Zeeba, ml14333, SunnyC, and Lipglossmom, Iwannacookie, and Catyz2  are feeling OK today!

  • Imheretoo
    Imheretoo Member Posts: 217
    edited August 2014

    I'll try this with 3 at a time photos for Milaandra.    If it turns out you see it all twice, tell me and I'll delete immediately!!

    Here's my very favorite healing place (in Sardinia)

    imagephoto sosmolinos1_zps14af3fa9.jpg" />imagephoto sosmolinos2_zps07fb96db.jpg" />imagephoto sosmolinos-me_zps7a68cdf5.jpg" />

  • Psalm34-4
    Psalm34-4 Member Posts: 66
    edited August 2014


    Thank you imheretoo for the encouraging words!! My surgery is outpatient tomorrow, and fortunately I am on the end of my menstrual cycle so my tenderness is better!! Your words gave me a great laugh, funny how different treatments can be in different parts of the world! I will most definitely be peeing in the bathroom, and my hubby can help me walk to bathroom like he did last time, lol !! And I will be in a hospital gown and wrapped up in warming blankets until they get me knocked out, and after that I have no idea what they do, lol !. Actually the have you covered in blankets and sterile drapes with only your operative site exposed.. you are making me wonder what you Italians are up to!! I hope you continue to get better, rest well, and enjoy some good reading!

    God bless~~

  • bobogirl
    bobogirl Member Posts: 2,777
    edited August 2014

    In the bag for you, psalm, and for all of our sisters!  I must say, Milaandra, you are a bad-ass.  You have got a top-notch attitude, and we are all here for you (no matter what your attitude is at any given moment :) ).

    Yes, Ally 2345, we will have coffee!  Catching our breath (plural) after the crazy start to the school year.  I wait for your text!

    My other Ally -- the one with pain from fills -- if Valium will not touch it, would you consider going to a massage therapist specializing in us?  It could be that they could reposition a pinched area.  I have only just found a good PT massage therapist -- I wish I had found her earlier!  Meantime, thinking of you! XXX

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