Starting Chemo in April 2014

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  • EverForward
    EverForward Member Posts: 242
    edited August 2014

    Today I am three weeks PFC. I hope my body realizes that we are done with chemo, so it can start healing in earnest. My MO let me push back my first Herceptin-only infusion so I could enjoy a long vacation in California. I'm celebrating this milestone with a cup of tea from the deck of my cabin. 

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    We all should be very proud of ourselves. And mscaruso, don't be so hard on yourself. Doubt and fear are normal considering what we have faced. The key is to come up with a plan (mammos, MRIs, whatever it takes) so you feel like you are staying in charge of your health. 

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited August 2014

    I just showed my husband the photo.  He said "does she rent it?" 

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited August 2014

    Ack!  Just wrote a big post and went to upload a pic and everything is gone!   

    I was on vacation for 9 days and am not caught up entirely on the posts.   And the break from cancer world was great.   I will post more later but I am just leaving for Taxol#11!   

    Congrats to everyone who finished while I was away :)  Hope your SEs are all less than they were the day before. 

    I am also regrowing hair.... about 1/4 inch but also lots of white fuzz on my face.  The same length! !!  So I waxed it.  Oh the joys!

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited August 2014

    Hey Sandra - I understand your stress and I think we all go through it at different times and for different reasons.   I think all we can do is trust that the treatment worked and wait for symptoms to have anything checked out.  That is what my MO has said - that he will explore and do tests as deemed appropriate on symptoms.  I also know that we have to give our bodies time to heal from the chemo so we know if the issues we are having are SE's or something else.  It is scary but you have to go back to prior to BC - if you had a pain or a headache or something we didn't immediately think we were dying - we have to find a place where we can live without constant fear and anxiety.  We will get there - we just gotta be patient.

  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited August 2014


    Timbuktu,  The drug is Zometa and is given by infusions twice a year.  My MO tells me that studies show it can help guard against bone mets.  I assume that because it's a bone strengthening drug it will make the bones stronger and thereby help prevent an easy pathway for mets??  I'll ask more about it when I see her end of September when I'm done with rads.  I also had to get an "all clear" from my dentist.  I will also get an updated bone density test first week in Sept. My last one was two years ago which slowed some osteopenia - not severe enough to be on any bone meds.  My MO will use the bone density results to go to my insurance and see if they will cover it.  Evidently, most insurance will cover it for one infusion a year, but many will NOT cover the second infusion.  If not, maybe would have to pay for it myself.  On another thread, saw that it can be very pricey.  The chance of jaw necrosis is about 1% - or so I was told, which is why they want to be sure you have no pending dental issues.

  • Ddkath70
    Ddkath70 Member Posts: 129
    edited August 2014

    Sandra, I feel the exact same way. I think we all do. I'm  almost 4 weeks PFC and stress out that maybe I needed more. I had my simulation the other day and spent 40 minutes on the CAT scan table and I kept freaking out like they were going to come in and tell me they saw something. Will the anxiety ever stop???

    I'm also done with the bald, puffy and tired version of myself. It's hard to look in the mirror, I don't recognize the person staring back at me. I can only pray for the patience I need until things start changing. 

  • lilyrose53
    lilyrose53 Member Posts: 216
    edited August 2014

    Hi all!

    Feeling pretty good right now.  I had my last of 12 Taxol today!  Got all emotioal when all the onc nurses came over to congratulate me and clapped.  It felt SO good to know I don't have to go back next week!  I must admit I will miss them.  I have three weeks off before starting rads.  Just need to get blood work and. CT scan before seeing my MO and RO in three weeks.

    I am so happy for all who have finished chemo!  I can't wait to start feeling 'normal' again.  I'm hoping that my SE's start subsiding soon.  

    Wishing you all a peaceful week,  lilyrose

  • ColdInCanada
    ColdInCanada Member Posts: 95
    edited August 2014

    Congratulations lilyrose!!! How awesome to be a Chemo Grad! :):):)

    Ddkath - Regarding weight loss: I found I started losing weight when I STOPPED exercising so much. True story. I found that the more I pushed myself, the more my legs would swell, and the less weight I would lose. SO, I decided to take days off - I walk for a couple of days (some days 10 minutes, some days 40 minutes - whatever I feel up to), then rest for a day. I elevate my feet whenever I'm sitting or laying down, and I drink disgusting amounts of water. I also limit my sodium intake. But the thing that had the most impact was slowing down my work-outs. Who knew, right?

    Sandra - I think we all worry that the chemo has failed, that we have completely wasted our time with all the CRAP that we put ourselves through. That little voice in our heads that whispers "what if?" is nasty, and has the potential to cause so much damage to the life we've been fighting for. I tell it to SHUT UP and BACK OFF and LEAVE ME ALONE every morning, before it even speaks. Because I know that if I let it get a foothold, I'll never be free of the fear. Ever. 

    Here's the thing. Not one of us here expected to hear the words "You have cancer." And now that we have, and we KNOW that it CAN happen to us, we are naturally going to worry that it WILL. Which is perfectly rational. Now, I can't speak for anyone else, but for me? Chemo was the hardest thing I have ever had to do. And the way I see it, I did NOT put myself through 4 months of HELL just so I can live the rest of my life in fear. So I TRY, every day, to NOT worry, to have Faith in God, my doctors, the treatment. Which is, of course, easier said than done. But I'm getting there. Just like all the other lingering side effects, the fear fades a little bit more each day. So HANG IN THERE. And, as always, we have your back. :)

    Oh, and P.S. I am SO OVER being bald. And it is so NOT FAIR that my lashes and brows continue to fall out 6 weeks PFC. I have exactly EIGHT lower lashes left - 3 on one eye and 5 on the other. Yes, I counted. Even worse are my upper lashes - each eye has only HALF remaining. As in, only ONE SIDE of each eyelid has lashes. I look ridiculous. And also hilarious.  :D

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited August 2014

    I just started to lose eyebrows and eyelashes,   while I am growing hair on my head..... comical or not, but I choose to laugh (today)  ;)

  • mmtagirl
    mmtagirl Member Posts: 509
    edited August 2014

    Lily, congratulations on finishing.  I was super emotional, too, after my last treatment on Tuesday.  I got all teary eyed with my sister and the nurses. Lots of hugging going on.  Two days later and  I am still emotional,  and super tired, much more so than previous weeks.  I think I had been pushing through the emotional and physical toll that chemo has on my body and it all surfaced.

    Good tips on losing weight, cold.  I finally got back on the scale yesterday after 2 weeks of living in denial even though my chemo belly was growing at a very fast rate.  Gained over 5 lbs in past two weeks and it is all in my chemopause/menopause belly.  It hasn't helped that I haven't exercised much other than a couple of walks the past few weeks. Have been too busy working and getting my daughter off to college so DH and I could become empty nesters.  I am so ready to get over the fatigue and get my body strong again!

    And the lashes? I quit wearing mascara a few weeks ago when my daughter told me I looked scary with it on. I guess my attempt at trying to strategically place them to hide the gaps wasn't helping nor the fact that there were only a few in the center of my upper lids any way.  My brows are completely penciled in and connected by fine white hairs.  Boy I thought this was it....no idea that they could fall out weeks PFC!

    I am curious when those of you several weeks PFC felt more like your normal self? Specifically, I have an opportunity to travel to Latin America end of September for work.  A part of me wants to go and yet another part of me worries it is too soon and will take too much out of me.  I asked my onco nurse on Tuesday and she thought my WBC should be back to normal levels soon and I would be ok to go from that perspective.  I am so torn.  If I go I need to be assured I have to stamina for full days of work followed by business dinners. When I get tired chemo brain hits at the moment.  Is 3 weeks PFC enough time to be through that?

    Thanks much,Ann

  • Tinkerbells
    Tinkerbells Member Posts: 211
    edited August 2014

    you guys are the best. It's true, I need to beat back the dementors! In chair for taxol # 11. I will believe it is killing off everything. Tuesday is last chemo, for forever. For forever. I will believe. Love to all of you.

    Sandra

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited August 2014

    Ddkath - yep, this bald puffy version has got to go!

    Lilyrose - congrats! Such respect to those of you who also do the 12 doses of taxol/taxotere.

    Cold - great words to live by ( as always - you know what to say)

    Clarrn - laughing is good!

    Mmtagirl - can only speak for myself, but 6 weeks PFC seemed to be a turning point. Travel would have been tough at 3 weeks - can you possibly go, but participate with a reduced schedule if necessary? We have a trip to Disney planned at the end of September - I'm feeling a little more confident I can make it without a scooter!

    And, as others have said, it's easier said than done, but we don't want to be :

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  • Tinkerbells
    Tinkerbells Member Posts: 211
    edited August 2014

    love it! That's me!!!!

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited August 2014

    oops, Sandra - I missed you in my rundown.  Good luck on finishing up - you are almost there!

  • Mompv
    Mompv Member Posts: 110
    edited August 2014

    Congrats to all of you who are finished! I have been reading your posts just not participating . I have 2 taxol to go so I will be done 9/18 as long as the neuropathy doesn't get worse. Anyway the reason I am writing is to tell you all what the NP said to me when I was telling her how bad I felt. She said they worry more about people sailing thru treatment. In their minds they wonder if the chemo is doing its job. When you feel horrible the chemo seems more like it's doing it's job of killing cells. Just a thought!

  • Swissmiss
    Swissmiss Member Posts: 111
    edited August 2014

    congrats lilyrose! 

    Ddkath...I am so with you! I'm six weeks PFC and still feeling puffy...and the bald look just isn't working for me :(  

    Cold...as always, you have a way with words that makes me want to say "yes, what she said." 

    I just did my 16th of 33 radiation treatments. So far so good!  I'm still dealing with severe hot flashes though.  I finally asked my MO for help, and he prescribed Efexor.  I've heard scary things about being on this drug (horrible withdrawals), but I'm desperate.  I'm literally drenched with sweat most of everyday, and I can't sleep more than 90 minutes. Is anyone else PFC still experiencing hot flashes like this?

    Thinking of you all...wishing you a wonderful day!

  • MommyQ
    MommyQ Member Posts: 117
    edited August 2014

    Congrats to those who just finished with chemo! I'm now 2 weeks PFC and actually feel pretty good, although my head still gets sweaty several times a day (localized hot flashes???). I'm nowhere near my condition pre-chemo of course, but I don't expect that for many months yet. Two positives: my taste buds have returned (as have pounds I lost when everything tasted bad) and I have enough energy to walk the dog (albeit at a slower than normal pace, with stops to rest) for 1/2 mile. Yay! I return to work next Wednesday part time (25 hours/week), to allow me time for rads, travel for rads, and some down time for fatigue. We'll see how it goes.

    So, apparently, hair loss on the face continues PFC, as several of your posts indicate. I'm experiencing the same thing. 2 weeks ago, I had about 50% of my brows left. Today, I would say I have 30% left. As I apply brow pencil, I see brow hair falling out! My eyelashes have managed to mostly stay put. I think I have maybe 80% of my eyelashes and most of what fell out was on my lower lid. I gave up using mascara a few weeks after I started chemo because I was worried that the application and removal of mascara would make the lashes fall out. 

    Meanwhile, I have 1/8" white fuzz on my head. It's ALL WHITE! I don't know what I'm going to do if the color doesn't return. I'm not ready for all white hair!  I was 30% grey before chemo and had my hair colored every 3 months. But I was recently reading about how bad hair dyes are so I don't know if I want to color it anymore. I suppose I could continue wearing wigs...bleck!

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited August 2014

    Not only have my eyebrows been growing, five weeks PFC, but my moustache!  Yippee! I just plucked about 10 hairs and I've never been so happy to do so!  Wish the hair on my head was growing as well.  

  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited August 2014

    Cold,  I love the second paragraph of your posting in particular.  I copied it and sent to a friend who finished her treatment and has a feeling of dread rather than optimism.  Your thoughts are stated so well and should resonate with all of us post treatment.  Love it!

    As for SE's during and after chemo.  We are all different.  Some of us didn't have horrific SE's (I was one of the lucky ones in that regard) but NONE of us are unscathed.  Yep, I lost toenails, tastebuds, hair and had a few other SE's that were more pesky than debilitating.  Do I think my chemo and now my rads worked are working??  Oh YES, big time.  They are working!!!  And I am grateful, grateful for all of it. 

    Take care all.  Paula

  • Tinkerbells
    Tinkerbells Member Posts: 211
    edited August 2014

    saw this on cape cod during my week off- too funny and had to share! What do you think my kids were desperate to do?

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  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited August 2014

    mscaruso-  in answer to your question a few days ago,  I opted for the anatomical shaped gummy.  And I am very happy,  it really does look extremely natural. I went with the high profile plus one as I wanted adequate projection for my age.  It does not sick out too far and I don't look like I am a porn star ;) Can't wait to get the TE out of the other side and get my other one in!!

  • nancybel
    nancybel Member Posts: 81
    edited August 2014

    Cold, as always, your words are spot on.  Thank you so much for putting into words what most of us are feeling and reminding me that everything I went through was not for nothing.  I too have lost almost all my eyebrows PFC and some lashes.  I am so tired of being bald and puffy.  Just when I thought I was no longer puffy, I saw a picture of myself that I almost didn't recognize.  Okay, good thoughts from here on out. :)

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited August 2014

    I just noticed the white fuzz on my head.  the thing is, I also have some rather long hairs.  I'm wondering how to handle this?  Big problem, right?  But just letting it grow in will not result in a normal head of hair.

    The hair grows at different rates.  Should we shave again?  

  • ColdInCanada
    ColdInCanada Member Posts: 95
    edited August 2014

    Timbuktu - I was wondering the same thing! I have some longer strands and some shorter strands. Should we shave it all down to the same length? I'm just so darn happy to have SOMETHING up there, I'm scared to mess with it!

    MommyQ - I had all white hairs on top until about 2 weeks ago. There are now some darker hairs mixed in with the white, except that the darker hairs seem to be mostly located on the SIDES of my head, while the white hairs have taken over the TOP. I am SO going to look like a SKUNK if this continues. And with no eyelashes or eyebrows...well, Halloween should be easy this year. lol!


    mmtagirl - At 3 weeks PFC, I, personally, would NOT have felt up to any kind of travelling. I'm at 6 weeks PFC tomorrow and I STILL don't feel like I'm back to "normal". Like SharonDe said - could you go with a reduced schedule? I would hate to see set-backs in your recovery because you did too much. That being said, only you can say how much is too much, right?

    SharoneDe - "Anxiety Girl" - love that! :D

  • mmtagirl
    mmtagirl Member Posts: 509
    edited August 2014

    thanks for the input. I think I am going to postpone the biz travel to Latin until later. It sounded good when I was still on my steroid high but now that I have crashed 3 days Pfc it doesn't sound appealing at all. 

    I agree with the input And don't want to do anything that might put my exchange surgery in jeopardy in October. I have a few other trips in the states coming up in October that I will use to test myself on first.  Thanks everyone! 

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited August 2014

    Breast turned bright red today :(  Back on antibiotics,  no fever yet, hope it stays away this time!

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited August 2014

    So sorry clarrn!!!!  This too shall pass!

  • MakeLemonade
    MakeLemonade Member Posts: 153
    edited August 2014

    Hello all! Haven't been on here for 2 weeks ...life got busy! 

    I need to read through the last few pages of posts, but don't have a lot of time right now.

    Am 3 weeks PFC and head is really clearing.  No more muscle or joint pain.  I only had slight neuropathy in my finger tips and that is gone.

    My head keeps thinking I can do a lot now ... But my body says no :-). Energy is coming back very slowly. 

    Have peach fuzz on my head!! Hard to see but it is there!  

    Started radiation yesterday ... Will have 23 whole breast then 7 boosts, for 30 in total.  2 done, 28 more to go :-). 

    Surgical breast started leaking last week again .. Due to the cellulitis I was told.  Was afraid that it would delay radiation, but it stopped and there was no infection that goodness. 

    Looking forward to reading what everyone has been up to the last two weeks ... Probably will catch up in the next few days! 

  • MakeLemonade
    MakeLemonade Member Posts: 153
    edited August 2014

    just read a bit above - I also have been losing eyelashes and eyebrows!  Started really noticing it last week which 2 weeks PFC. Bottom lashes are gone, most of upper lashes gone.  Most of eyebrows but still have enough to get by.  If they don't grown back as full I will be happy :-)

    I had no trouble with the hair loss.  I am patiently waiting for the peach fizz to turn to hair, but not impatient about it.  However, the eyelashes are a different story!  I didn't look like a chemo patient before while wearing my wig, but now with my naked eyes I am impatiently waiting for those :-)

    Taste buds are totally back ... Had a tuna sandwich the first day of chemo and haven't had one since.  Have now had two in the past week and it tasted normal again :-)

  • MommyQ
    MommyQ Member Posts: 117
    edited August 2014

    ColdinCanada: Well, that's good to hear that the hair with color can come in later. A skunk-do would be interesting. :)

    Timbuktu & Cold: I also have some longer hairs mixed in with the 1/4 inch white stubble. I'm not going to shave it. I'm going to leave it alone until it's all long enough to cut into some sort of hairstyle.

    Clarrn: Sorry to hear you got an infection. Good you got on antibiotics early.

    MakeLemonade: I agree with you. Losing facial hair made me feel more like a chemo patient than losing hair on top of my head! And yay for taste buds coming back! It makes eating much more fun.

    Have a great Labor Day weekend!

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