Starting Chemo in April 2014
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Has anyone else who finished chemo experienced SEs after the final round that last longer than usual? I am 13 days PFC and I am having serious drippy nose and watery eyes. It's much worse than usual (although usually I take Claritin for about 10 days after chemo). I'm in California now to recuperate at my cabin and the air is very dry here so maybe my head is overcompensating.
Nosey McDripperson
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Why so many Taxols? How are you holding up? Neuropathy?
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Ddkath70: I am the WORST when it comes to staying hydrated. I almost never feel thirsty, so I have to just make myself drink. Yay, you're getting rid of your port! I haven't scheduled mine yet. My simulation is 9/3. I don't know if I should remove the port before rads or after. Are you just doing an in-office port removal or going into the hospital for surgery?
Jen: If you are prone to nausea, let your BS know and he/she will set you up with anti-nausea meds during surgery and afterwards, to make sure you are ok. I did that and I don't remember really suffering from nausea. Best of luck tomorrow!
EverForward: My SEs seem to be about the same for each chemo cycle. But maybe it's totally unrelated to chemo and you're just allergic to something in California that's making your nose and eyes water. Hopefully it gets better. Enjoy your recoop time at the cabin! That sounds nice.
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Swiss Miss, No, I wasn't the least bit sore after the "deportation" and hope you are not either!
Just found out from my MO's office that Taxol had one last parting gift for me. My eyelids were somewhat swollen, went to ophthalmologist and discovered I had infections in both eyes. That was cleared in one week w/steroid eye drops. But then my eyes, especially one of them, are non-stop watering all the time. Clogged tear ducts, which my MO's office can happen post Taxol. My last chemo was July 24. Hopefully it will go away on its own. Anyone else have this issue, and if so, how long did it take to go away?
Thanks!
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Hey Jen,
I had a little nausea after my BMX - gave me something for it and I was fine. But as MommyQ says if you are prone to nausea - then ask for something before surgery and that will help.
In my opinion the BMX was WAY EASIER than chemo. You have the surgery and you get a little better every day - you don't have to have it every three weeks lol -so you are always seeing improvement. You will be fine - you are a super hero!
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Everforward - the herceptin can cause the drippy nose - I get that after each herceptin and sometimes it lasts a long time and sometimes it is only a few days. The advice I got was that alot of the SE's were cumulative and lasted longer with each treatment.
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my eyes and nose are tearing a lot.
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Timbuktu - Do you think your tearing eyes are also clogged tear ducts? When was your last chemo?
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Jamieh, I am in the chair for taxol with one more next week, too. No rads for me but start tamoxifen in September. Exchange to implants October 29. As you say, one step at a time but it sure is nice to see a bigger and brighter light at the end of that tunnel!
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I don't think my tear ducts are clogged. My last infusion was July 21. It's not constant, just as my nose doesn't run constantly, but more than normal.
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Sunshine...best of luck to you tomorrow! I only had mild nausea after anesthesia; it was more like being slightly carsick. No vomiting at all...but your nurse will be able to give you something if you are nauseous.
I had my port removed yesterday
It only took a few minutes in my surgeon's office...I was grateful she could do it there, rather than spending the whole day at the hospital. The only discomfort I had was the lidocaine shots, the rest was smooth sailing
It was a relief, and a wonderful milestone to finally reach. I have a few stitches, and the incision is quite sore today, but nothing that keeps me from getting things done.
Hope you are all enjoying your day. I'm so happy for those of you nearing the end of chemo...we are all getting the job done
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Hello Ladies!
Congrats to all who have finished up/are finishing up, and best wishes and hugs and prayers to those going on to further treatment. Such a long journey we've traveled already, and still it feels like we have miles to go, doesn't it? Whew.
Ddkath - I think I mentioned this previously, although my memory is NOT what it was, but I have had terrible swelling in my legs and feet. Also in my arms and hands and STOMACH, and a wee bit on my face. Seventeen pounds worth, in fact. My MO tells me this is NORMAL water retention, and it will all disappear in time. Over the past couple of weeks, I have lost 6lbs, so I'm inclined to believe him.
I drink lots of water, and I try to take a walk every day, even just for 10 minutes. The activity seems to help a lot.
Linda - HOORAY for a clear scan! So, so SO happy for you!
MommyQ - Congrats on reaching the Finish Line! So, SO scary about the delayed reaction. I will say that I did have my light-headed moments in that first week following the final infusion as well. Some fluids, some sugar, and a nap seemed to set things right, but still, more than a little bit terrifying, right? So glad you're on the mend.
Sunshine - I second what everyone else has said about the mastectomy. Compared to chemo, that's the easy part. I kept having to remind myself NOT to do things. My MIL was staying with us to help out at that time, and she actually LOCKED ME INTO THE RECLINER so I would rest a little. The Tyrant!
I couldn't operate the release mechanism, so I was completely stuck and had no choice but to take a nap. Too funny.
Still dealing with some serious muscle pain. My legs ache ALL THE TIME, and my arms aren't far behind. And stairs, AAACK, stairs about kill me. Again, staying active seems to help a little, but WOW, I wish I had known how much I would HURT after chemo. Yesterday I almost got stuck in my shirt because my arms were too sore to cooperate. Oy! Actually, as frustrating as that last part was, it was also pretty hilarious.
Some annoying news: my surgeon seems to have forgotten about me. I had to contact his office to remind him that I'm due for a screening, and SOMEHOW, no one bothered to send in my referral to the plastic surgeon, so I now have a year-long wait from TODAY before I even get a consult. Grrrr. My knitted boob is lovely, but I was kind of hoping to get some information about something more permanent. Ah well, thinking of getting fitted for a silicone friend for the time being.
Enjoy your day Ladies!
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MommyQ, I am waiting until after my simulation to have my port removed because I was told I would have contrast as part of the CAT scan. I have trouble with my veins so I figured what's a few more days.
Jen, my eyes started tearing about 10 days after my last infusion. And I also had some other SEs like mild nausea, but that went away now.
Cold, I hope my retention starts to subside I really think it's causing some of this muscle fatigue. I've been swimming to try to get my energy up, I'm on a water pill now and a trip to the grocery store is like an all out work out for me. I literally have to rest after bringing the packages in and rest again after putting them away. Frustrating and depressing, but like you said we've been pumped full of poison for weeks, it's gonna take some time. I have to allow myself that time, but it's hard.
Sunshine ask for the patch that goes behind your ear for your surgery in addition to whatever else they want to give you for nausea. I had two lumpectomies and I had it both times and was not the wee bit nauseous and I'm very prone.
Yesterday was my official last day of my treatment, the 21st day after last infusion and my balloon wall is done! I feel quite accomplished...Now if only my hair and energy would make an appearance I will be all set.
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How wonderful that all the balloons are gone! And that youhave the kind of husband who would make that for you. I'm always amazed when you guy complain about fatigue shopping, carrying in bundles, walking, working. I do NOTHING! Yesterday i went shopping for a bit with my husband but I waited on the bench
while he went to buy things. Just walking from the car was exhausting, I have to lean on him. Today I went to the library on my own and felt so accomplished! I think you guys don't realize just how much you do.
My last infusion was July 21 and I definitely feel the motivation and energy returning but sooo slowly!
We have to be patient with ourselves!
But what a great photo, of those busted balloons, I feel it's for all of us.
What is hitting me now is fear. I think as long as I was under treatment I felt I was doing what I had to do.
Now I'm not so sure and it's scary to be waiting and seeing what happens next.
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Still in the chair today for taxol #11. My clean photo
And how I really feel about number 11
Just ready for next Tuesday. It's break up day with taxol. Onto my two main men herceptin and perjeta. Only bad part is I have rads simulation on Thursday and I am not mentally handling the tattoos very well. Good thing it that it is in the AN so I will get it done early.
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Timbuktu, the balloons are for all of us! :-) They represent the strength, struggle and perseverance we all had through this Hell.
And don't be too impressed with my grocery store visit. I don't do much either. I work from home so I can literally go days without leaving the house. Lol. I've just recently felt little improvement s that have allowed me to swim a little longer and walk around my house with huffing and puffing. My last treatment was 7/29 and I agree it's coming back slooooo....but it's coming back. Good for you getting to the library!!
Jaimieh, love your pic!
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Hi Cold!
Nice to see you! I have had terrible swelling also. Have been on Lasix, and even had my dosage doubled. Am now also wearing those lovely compression stockings. I initially lost about 8 pounds, but since I've been on Taxol, have gained about 15 pounds! Ack! I have trouble walking because my neuropathy has gotten so bad in my feet, that my toes are numb. It is creeping up the bottom of my feet now. I trip a lot! I'm sure hoping that this goes away. Your MIL sounds like a smart woman! Lol. Hope you can get rid of your knitted boob soon!
Jaimieh,
I'm right behind you. Getting Taxol #11 tomorrow. Can't wait to finish. Love your pic!
Sunshine,
I had the patch behind my ear for my surgery, plus whatever else they put in my IV. It worked well for me and I ALWAYS get nausea! Good luck!
Timbuktu,
I am like you with the fatigue. I can barely drag myself around the grocery store. I have been tempted to use those electric carts, but I NEED to walk more. So I get a regular grocery cart, even if I don't need one, just for something to lean on as I walk through the store.
Ddkath,
Love seeing your ballon wall all finished! Wow! You've come a LONG way! Hopefully, we will get over this awful feeling of fatigue soon. I'm anxiously awaiting some cooler weather so that I can get outside again!
Wishing you all a peaceful night, lilyrose
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Swissmiss: Glad to hear your "deportation" went well.
I hate shots but I guess getting a couple of shots in an office is better than doing the full hospital surgery (no eating, IV, early start, etc). I was wondering how they close up the hole in your vein after they pull out the tube, but I guess it closes on its own because they don't do anything but just pull it out! I watched a video on YouTube last night and was amazed how simple the port removal procedure is.
ColdinCanada: Thanks! I'm hopeful for no more scares as I recover from this last chemo infusion! Sorry to hear about your surgeon forgetting to file papers to refer you to the PS. That IS annoying. You'd think they'd do that sort of stuff practically on autopilot. Is the one year wait due to healthcare rules? Or is there a way to shorten that wait time?
Ddkath70: Yeah, that makes sense to keep the port in for the IV they'll run during the CT scan. My RO said that he wouldn't be using contrast dye for my CT. I wonder why your RO is using it and mine isn't. I think I'll just keep mine in just in case he changes his mind...at least until after rads are well underway. I'm impressed you've been working through chemo. I couldn't do it so I've been on short term disability. I got back on Sept 3 on a reduced 25 hour/week work schedule. I hope I can manage! Congrats on being completely done with chemo! That balloon wall was a cool idea. I bet it feels great to have all the balloons popped!
Timbuktu: I agree it's so hard not being able to do things that we used to do without even a thought, but hang in there. Energy will come back! I went to Target yesterday to buy my daughter face cleanser. I was so tired just standing in the aisle, trying to read the labels, I had to squat on the ground, and I even struggled with that! I couldn't wait to get home so I could sit on the couch again! It's funny. Before BC, I almost NEVER sat down on the couch. I'm the type to always be doing something. Now I'm there everyday in the same spot. There's a dent the shape and size of my butt in that spot! As far as being worried about recurrance, I think IF it does come back, we will be able to catch it very early and treat it, simply because we are so much more aware of watching for anything weird AND we're going to be at doctors' offices a lot from now on for follow ups, so they'll be another check point for early detection.
Jamieh: You grew another hand! I thought that wasn't supposed to happen until radiation, LOL! Good photos.
I like your cap, too. Hey, I'd ask your RO if he can do markers instead of a tattoo, if you don't like the idea of a tattoo. My RO actually prefers markers.
Well, time to get off my butt and go take a shower before I take my daughter to get her braces off. Have a good day everyone!
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Good Morning All!
Thinking of Sunshine today was she heads into surgery! Sending prayers and hugs and all sorts of happy thoughts!
Ddkath - I LOVE seeing that balloon wall - all used up! I bet it felt SO GOOD to pop the last one. Your hubby is a smart, wonderful man to have done that for you.
Jaimieh - That second photo. It about sums everything up, doesn't it?
MommyQ - The PS wait time is because it takes that long to get in to see him. Unless you're a priority, which I am not. And I understand this - "Disfigured Face After an Accident" should come ahead of "Needs a Fake Boob". But my referral SHOULD have gone in right after my surgery in February, and since it didn't, I've lost 6 months in the queue. Truth be told, I'm not sure I WANT reconstruction - I'm not terribly keen on more surgery - but I feel I can't make any kind of decision until I've explored all my options. And after living with just one boob for 6 months, I can see the convenience of having an implant. At least I wouldn't lean to the left so much.
Regarding the muscle fatigue: I have been told that a Vitamin D deficiency can contribute to muscle and joint pain. My MO ordered me to start taking Vitamin D supplements, as well as Calcium/Magnesium. It's only been a week, so I can't say it's making a huge difference YET, but I am hopeful. I also have a friend who is currently studying Naturopathy, so I'm going to quiz her as well. There has to be SOMETHING we can take that will help these muscles heal. I counted backwards and I've been dealing with constant muscle pain since Round 3. That's about 13 weeks of PAIN, and quite frankly, I've had enough.
I was at the store the other day, needing to look at something on a bottom shelf, and I had to SIT ON THE DIRTY STORE FLOOR because my muscles couldn't hold me in a squatting position. *sigh*. And MommyQ - I have my very own Butt Groove on my couch too.
Found this the other day and thought it would make a lovely t-shirt. Or a wall hanging. Or perhaps a billboard?
Have a great day Ladies!
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My wonderful hospital social worker just called and talked to me for a solid hour. She told me how to contact the dr more easily, how get in touch with the hospital, etc. I highly recommend contacting the social worker if you have any questions or problems!
Beyond this she told me that when treatment is over there is a different process that kicks in. People are often surprised by the fear. It's all part of it and has to be worked through.
The right words at the right time can really help, as we all know on this site.
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jaimieh: i am 4 weeks pfc and 2 days into radiation. The fatigue from chemo went away about 3 weeks afterward. I finished 7-22 and had the rads sim on 7-29 but actually didn't start rads until yesterday 8-19. I got 5 tattoos...2 on each side and one in the middle of my breast bone. They are all about the size of a peroid on a keyboard. The only one that hurt was the one on the breast bone. The others were like you got a scratch maybe. I will not be concerned about the ones on my sides because i have a bunch of freckles so they blend but the one in front I will have removed because it is visible to me.
Best of luck everyone...oh! And LOVED the balloon wall. I remember when that f#cker was full!! Congrats to all of us for getting through all of this!!!!
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I see hair!!! And stubble! Not as excited for the leg stubble, but hair is hair! :-)
Cold, thanks for the tip on the vitamin d, mine is really low and my MO gave me a prescription but I can never remember to take them. I will make sure I do now. I hope it helps the muscle fatigue, I went swimming again today and I'm in pain already. Every muscle aches. I tried to do some stretches but that's a joke, I might as well be made out of wood. I'm the most inflexible person on the planet. Lol.
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Ddkath - congrats on popping all those balloons! And, yay for stubble
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yay for stubble on your head.
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Rads simulation today and no tattoos for me. They decided to do stickers because I was so against more tattoos. I have two on my body and plan on keeping the number at only two (they are circular in shape and match on each side. Lol). So I officially start on Sept 9.
So I am feeling pretty wimpy today but the fact that I have 5 days until the last taxol is pushing me thru. I just want it to be over and start healing from chemo. Some hair would help thing feel better also. It doesn't help that today my taste buds are off and that seems to make me cranky.
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Greetings from lovely Big Bear, California! I arrived in CA 9 days PFC and after a few days with family near LA, I came up to my cabin in Big Bear - my happy place. It's wonderful here, but the high altitude makes even more winded! A gentle stroll along a mostly flat bike path along the lake wore me out and killed my glut muscles. I've been forcing myself to do chores around the house (I planted rose bushes yesterday) but for every 2 minutes of exertion, I have to spend a few more minutes catching my breath.
It's nice to know that I'm not the only one dealing with this. No chores this afternoon, just sitting around watching the birds and chipmunks.
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Jaimieh, I know how you feel regarding taste buds. I got thrush with every treatment and it destroyed my taste buds. Everything tasted like salty swampwater. Gross. Hang in there, your in the home stretch. Things seem to come back very slowly, my last treatment was 7/29 and I'm just now feeling bits of energy, and seeing a little bit of hair. It's amazing how little things like that can give you a lift. I've cried more in the last 3 weeks than I did over the entire course of my treatment. By this point we are just done!
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Jaimieh - glad you worked out the tattoos. I didn't know they could do that.
Everforward - sounds like you are having a good time. I wondered where you would be in California (we lived in Running Springs 1985-1995). It's amazing how nice and peaceful it can be in the mountains.
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You mean that there is life after chemo? Sounds great Ever! Just take it easy. My dr said that for the next 3 months I have to rest and heal. Of course they also say excercize is always good. Go figure!
I spent 3 hours today with an onco nurse with 30 years experience. Amazing. My hospital has a program to help you transition out of treatment. Too much information for me to remember off hand but I do remember her saying that losing just 5 or 10 pounds will lower rate of recurrence. Also, of course, walking a half hour a day. Turns out I have osteoporosis now so it's double the reason to walk. She asked if I take calcium and I said I stopped about a year ago when that study came out saying that calcium pills don't work. She said that was for most people, people with osteo must take it. Hard to keep track!
Enjoy that cabin...we all deserve something great after what we've been through!
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Dkath, i know what you mean. By the end of chemo you feel like a prizefighter down for the count.
My last chemo was July 21 and I do have to say that I feel like a new person. A person with painful neuropathy, insomnia, exhaustion, fears galore, but still better off than I was a few days ago! The body is amazing, it does bounce back!
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ColdinCanada: That's one busy PS you have! Must be a good one. I can understand you wanting to achieve some balance. Haha!
Interesting you mentioned Vitamin D helps reduce muscle aches. My muscles felt constantly sore, as if I had just run a marathon, starting around the middle of my chemo treatment (#3, I think, like you). It had subsided towards the end. This was about the same time the weather got nice and I started driving around in my convertible with the top open, for 15-30 minutes at a time, every couple of days. I wonder if that good ole Vitamin D-generating sunshine did the trick?
Hey, I ALMOST sat on the floor at Target but I really didn't want to, so I suffered in my squatting position until I couldn't take it anymore and had to get up and go!
Glad to hear I'm not the only one who made a butt groove on my couch!
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