Anybody eating a Ketogenic diet?

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zogo
zogo Member Posts: 20,329
edited September 2014 in Working on Your Fitness

After my Diep flap PBMx, I wanted to lose some weight before my final reconstruction. I knew that since my tummy was now my breasts, the weight might come off in strange places. I started eating low carb and as I continued doing research on this woe (way of eating), I discovered all the benefits of a ketogenic diet. Just wondering if anyone else is eating this way and if they want to share tips, ideas, experiences and recipes.

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  • zogo
    zogo Member Posts: 20,329
    edited July 2014

    Dr Eric Westman regarding Ketogenic way of eating.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9-OkTOq-n0

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  • zogo
    zogo Member Posts: 20,329
    edited August 2014

    Another article regarding the advantages of eating a ketogenic diet for cancer.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/ketogenic-diet-can-prevent-cancer-and-starve-cancer-cells-say-experts

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  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited August 2014

    Interesting.  I've taken a totally different approach (plant-based; eliminating animal protein), based on articles and research like these:

    http://www.integrativeoncology-essentials.com/2014...

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22342103

    Perhaps we're all different, and the trick is to find the one that makes us each feel the best overall.    Deanna

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  • zogo
    zogo Member Posts: 20,329
    edited August 2014

    deanna, how do you get your protein in?

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  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited August 2014

    zogo, I eat nuts (including almond milk), beans (including hummus), and protein-rich grains, like quinoa daily.  And I still do a bit of cheese -- like a little parmesan or feta in salads, as well as occasionally cottage cheese or a vegetable protein powder in some sort of shake.  I wasn't a red meat eater before I read about this diet, so what I've eliminated are fish, chicken and eggs.  Not sure how many grams of protein I'm getting; I should probably figure that out.  My primary concern was to see if a methionine-restricted diet would hopefully have an impact on my mets.  

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  • zogo
    zogo Member Posts: 20,329
    edited August 2014

    I hope it will work for you...hugs <3

    According to the Optimal Ketogenic Living plan that I am following, my goal (for my height and lean body mass) is to eat less than 25g of carbs, 100g of protein and healthy dietary fats like coconut oil, butter, olive oil, avocado, nuts, seeds...

    I'm having a hard time hitting my protein macro but I'm working on it every day.  

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  • zogo
    zogo Member Posts: 20,329
    edited August 2014

    Dr Peter Attia is my hero. He has such a stellar background (got his first degree in engineering which gives me an automatic connection, as I am also an engineer) He studied medicine at Stanford then Oncology at Johns Hopkins. His TED talk is amazing and I truly respect his research and work.

    Here is one of his pages (a bit technical) on cancer. http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/way-exploit-metabolic-quirk-cancer

    Here is his TED Med talk.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMhLBPPtlrY

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  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited August 2014

    Well, I can see why you like Dr. Attia.  He comes across as both personable and passionate.  However, while I applaud him for not accepting the status quo beliefs when looking for answers (in this case re. insulin resistance and excess weight), I'm not sure his hypothesis (that the relationship between the two might be the reverse of what most ppl assume) is correct -- or that it's always correct.  As he said himself, there are many thin ppl w/diabetes. And as anyone can observe, today's modern supermarkets boast aisle after aisle of high calorie non-food products, which, sadly, too many ppl rely on for a good part of their diet -- not to mention the ginormous, calorie and sodium heavy meals served up by restaurant chains. So I'm not personally impressed with this particular talk.

    As far as the blog post, I think explanation #2 is the accurate one based on the most current research.  But certainly sugar feeds cancer.  That's been documented and written about by quite a few nutrition PhD's.   So I'm not sure what I think of this blog.  The fact that he gives definitions then goes on to give a couple of scientific hypothesis confuses me.  I'm not sure who his audience is -- certainly not the research community, for they would know these terms.  

    The reference to TED made me remember an exceptional TED talk on cancer by Dr. William Li that I thought might interest you if you haven't already seen it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_5Z31mUmtc   And here's a link to his foundation and more information.  http://www.angio.org/  

    PS ~ Just wanted to add... if you are feeling really good and your blood work is good following a ketogenic diet, then that's what's most important.  Don't let what I'm doing confuse you.  What's right for any individual may not be the best answer for someone else.  We're all unique, and I absolutely agree about the healthy fats you mentioned.  I eat those too. 

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  • zogo
    zogo Member Posts: 20,329
    edited August 2014

    I have seen the Dr Li Ted Talk. He has great information, as well.  I agree that everyone is individual in what may work for them. Sending you my best for health and healing.

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  • zogo
    zogo Member Posts: 20,329
    edited September 2014

    Hey it's going mainstream. Now the NY Times has an article.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/02/health/low-carb-vs-low-fat-diet.html?_r=0

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