Latissimus dorsi flap -- effect on arm movement and activities

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sharsalo
sharsalo Member Posts: 41
edited September 2014 in Breast Reconstruction

Hello, I am somewhat new to this site -- I reregisteredsince I haven’t been on it since I was going through treatment for Stage IIbreast cancer 10 years ago. My question/issue is this: After my right breastmastectomy in 2004, I am finally going through with reconstructive surgery. My doctorhas suggested the latissimus dorsi flap with an implant. I have done someresearch on it and feel generally comfortable with the process, but my concernis the limited use of my arm. I am right-handed and work as an editor; I alsohave dogs that I walk regularly and do like to snorkel on occasion. Howdifficult are these activities going to be after I have the latissimus dorsiprocedure done? How weak or feeble is my arm going to be in the long run? I amworried about being unable to perform certain tasks or activities and don’t wantmy quality of life diminished. If anyone is willing to share their experiencewith me or let me ask some questions of you, I would be eternally appreciative.Thanks!

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  • KSteve
    KSteve Member Posts: 486
    edited August 2014

    sharsalo - I had the lat dorsi procedure done in January of this year.  I didn't got straight to implant though.  I had a tissue expander first then exchange surgery about 10 weeks later.  I had to have the radiated skin on my right side replaced with skin from my back.  It was a major surgery (bigger recovery than I remember my bilateral mastectomy being), but I have zero regrets. 

    I am 48 years old and not what I would define as an athlete by any means.  But I do go to the gym 3-4 times per week (about 3 miles on an ellyptical and 30 minutes of circuit training).  We also like to hike and actually just returned from a Mexico vacation with lots of swimming and snorkeling.  While it did take a while to get back to my "normal" self, I feel like I'm definitely there now.  I actually feel better now then I did before surgery because I've lost 20 lbs over the last few months too (intentionally).  I don't notice a change in my arm use at all, but I'm not doing any serious lifting, rowing, tennis, etc., so I'm not sure if I'm a good guage of that or not.

    Please feel free to ask me any questions you may have.  Good luck to you!

    Kathy


     

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited August 2014

    You may find some of the articles on the main BCO site of interest regarding Latissimus Dorsi procedure. Link is just to list of items found in search of main BCO site using search function there.

    Best of luck with your procedure, (but please people, do not re-register, as against Community Rules).

    The Mods

  • sharsalo
    sharsalo Member Posts: 41
    edited August 2014

    Thanks, Kathy. Your experience sounds very similar to what
    mine will be. I actually will be getting an expander as well, and I did go
    through radiation therapy. I am 47 and also not a serious athlete, but I just
    want to be sure that I will be able to perform normal functions with my arm. I’m
    not a competitive swimmer; I do want to be able to kayak leisurely or swim or
    snorkel (also leisurely), and it sounds like you were able to do that, yes? No
    trouble with actions such as writing or typing? You are still able to move your
    arm in a back and forth motion?

    Sorry, Moderators, I was unaware. My old email account is
    long defunct – I do not even recall the name of it.

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited August 2014

    Sharsalo, I am able to type and write (I am an admin and on a computer all day and do office duties as well).  No trouble moving my arm in a back and forth motion either (8 weeks out from lat flap w/TE).

  • KSteve
    KSteve Member Posts: 486
    edited August 2014

    Sharsalo - Yes, swimming is fine.  Writing and typing are fine as well.  I have an office job and do those tasks daily.  Arm motion is fine too.

  • SweetCaroline2
    SweetCaroline2 Member Posts: 72
    edited August 2014

    Sharsalo- I had an LD flap with a silicone implant done immediately after my mastectomy, which was followed by rads once the incisions were healed. I have no  problems with my arm strength or mobility as a result of the LD flap. The only arm problem I have is from the lymphedema that I developed 8 months post-op. I am physically able to lift heavy objects,  but doing so will usually cause my arm to swell, so I must exercise restraint. 

  • sharsalo
    sharsalo Member Posts: 41
    edited August 2014

    Thanks, everyone, your replies are very helpful and have definitely put me more at ease in regards to the upcoming surgery. Though I am still definitely nervous, I am also excited to move into this phase of my recovery. I can't wait to have a decent bra that fits!

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited August 2014

    I'm a year after LD flap. My history is one of extreme athletics and endurance sports. LD flap hindered that lifestyle for me for sure. However, even with flap and lymphedema, I lift weights and spin 4-5 days a week. I can also do long walks and  hike without any problem. The competitive cycling and running I used to love for has gone by the wayside despite all my best efforts. I walked 5.5 miles today and ran for a month here and there. When I swing my arm running, my chest on the LD side reacts by tightening and it is trying. It takes a lot of patience and self-love. But? I do have a healthy and infection-free chest and can pull off some looks without a bra - which is best for my lymphedema. 

  • steelersluver
    steelersluver Member Posts: 112
    edited September 2014

    Mariasnow, I am interested in your story.  I am also athletic (kayak, run, spin, waterski), and have been advised to have the lat flap as revision surgery due to capsular constriction (which causes a lot of pain more than a year after surgery). Are you finding you can do more as more time passes? I cannot figure out how to make this decision.

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited September 2014

    Steelers, I am doing really well in the gym and with really heavy weight - including seated row, pull downs and pretty much all my upper body strength. It took patience at first but I have found I actually can do it. This bodes well for things like rowing and skiing. I can also go full on spinning. Really the one issue I have had with latissimus dorsi is running. My chest tightens up and it is uncomfortable to the point it is hard to push through. I'm still hoping tht with strength training, PT and massage it will improve. Please plan to give yourself plenty of time to heal. I chose to. Another failed surgery to feed my exercise addiction was not an option for me whatsoever. I gave it extra time. But today - just a little more than a year later I blew out some major seated rows and lat pull downs. I'm strong!

  • steelersluver
    steelersluver Member Posts: 112
    edited September 2014

    Thanks for the input Mariasnow. It is nice to hear it can be overcome. I've talked with 2 people who had it done, and both said they would do it again, so this is all good news. Interesting about the difficulty running. I don't run too long, usually under 45 minutes, but that does not sound fun at all!

    Tammie

  • gabriellaM
    gabriellaM Member Posts: 44
    edited September 2014

    Hi,

    Just wanted to chime in about lat flap surgery and exercise. This was one of my big worries before my surgery and i had read a number of stories of women who had significant persistent tightness that limited their activities after this operation. This has NOT been the case for me. I am 5 months out and can do everything I did beforehand -- serious dance classes (lots of arm movement), swimming, and running. I think swimming has been helpful for any pain/tightness I have, and I have been swimming about 50 laps 2-3 days/week this summer (I had to work up to this since I had not done much swimming before surgery). I can relate to the tightness across my chest while running, which I do feel sometimes. If I swing my arms around it seems to help. I think the more I use and stretch my arms while I exercise the less pain/tightness I feel. I tried playing tennis and my shoulder sure hurt after practicing serves but I never have played much tennis and I bet it would have hurt even without the surgery! Still trying to decide whether using a rowing machine would be pushing things!

    Good luck to those of you thinking about this operation! I think most of us do well post-op!

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited September 2014

    I've had some really rough days lately where I felt I made the wrong choice. But given the chance to lament a bit I feel like I can say I made the right choice. I like having 2 boobs and it was the right choice for me at the time based on what I knew. Wishing everyone great success and peace with choices. I appreciate those who have been kind to me on this site when I have struggled v. trying to set me straight. I've always responded to love better than correction. 

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