Starting Chemo in April 2014

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  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited August 2014

    Clarrn, we're in a similar position, except for the panties.

    You onco makes so much sense, testing your blood before your infusion.  Mine takes the blood and then starts the infusion before seeing the results!  

    My feet are killing me, my fingers are tingling.  My onco said she does not cut back on Taxol.  She does not change anything.  My hemoglobin is down to 9 but that wasn't part of our discussion because she didn't have the results yesterday!  

    I totally relate to your confusion with the panties.  My head is in the same place but how on earth are we supposed to make treatment decisions?  At least your dr. seems to be in charge.

  • mmtagirl
    mmtagirl Member Posts: 509
    edited August 2014

    lots of Jamie and Claire fans on this thread:-). I am still getting through her latest book and did get a chance to watch the series premiere.  I thought it stayed true to the book story line but it did take awhile to reconcile my mental image of the characters with the actors.  I agree with Blueberry on the voice overs but think in the beginning they are needed for those that haven't read the book to not get confused.

    Clarrn, your panty story is a hoot! Thanks for sharing.  I also had similar reaction when I received my news yesterday. I was so happy for the light at the end of the tunnel to open up even further but the "what next" is a bit uncomfortable.   When asked how do I know if we got it all he said "do we know if you are cured? No, I can't tell you that.  But, we killed all the cancer cells we could and I don't think more chemo would provide any added benefit." Now we wait to see if my body tells me something through a lump, bump, unusual ache or pain and then we check.  That's the scary part for me.  At 52 when don't I have a ache or pain? When is joint or bone pain not a side effect from tamoxifen and something else.  This is when I am glad I enrolled in the RxPonder trial.  At least I know that I will have a few more doctor appointments, bloodwork, exams to help me ease through this next transition.

  • EverForward
    EverForward Member Posts: 242
    edited August 2014

    I was walking to work this morning and got to the slight uphill part where I have to slow to a crawl if I don't want my legs to fall off. Coming toward me I saw a woman on her morning jog. With her long, shiny hair pulled back in a ponytail. And her perfect boobs. She looked so healthy. As she passed me I had an overwhelming urge to PUNCH HER IN THE FACE. I guess I'm a little jealous of healthy people. It's been sooooo long since I've felt strong.

  • MakeLemonade
    MakeLemonade Member Posts: 153
    edited August 2014

    Timbuktu - sorry you have to go through all of this!  Someone else mentioned it too, but it is like the waiting to hear what the game plan is that should only happen at the beginning of all of this! :-( 

    My hemoglobin has gone up and down and I have had to have two blood transfusions.  You don't get a blood transfusion until it is down to 8.  Depending on your age, they might let you go down to the high 7's.  I am hoping mine hangs in there.  Went from 8 to 11.2 after my last transfusion, then 10.8 last week at which time I had my last Taxol, then 9.9 yesterday.  I get Herceptin again next week, so hoping the hemoglobin hangs in there as I won't get another blood draw for 3 weeks after that.  However, I know what it feels like, so I can always call. 

  • MakeLemonade
    MakeLemonade Member Posts: 153
    edited August 2014

    Outlander - read the series several years ago, then the first 3 or 4 by audio books this year.  Haven't watched it yet ... I think I will now that many of you have raved about it :-)

  • MakeLemonade
    MakeLemonade Member Posts: 153
    edited August 2014

    Met with my new RO yesterday and really like her.  Simulation/setup will be tomorrow with rads to start Aug 25.  My trip to California in mid October is now still in the cards which made me very happy!  I had been worried due to the delay with the breast infection.  This trip has been my goal through out all of this and has kept me going!   Now need to figure out if I should join the Summer or Fall RADS groups :-)

    The organization that I work with regarding the trip doesn't know about have breast cancer and I had been dreading having to send the email telling them I couldn't go.  But came home happy that I will be able to go, and there were my flight arrangements in my inbox :-) 

    Have any of you felt betrayed by your own body?  The breast cancer and then two subsequent breast infections has me feeling betrayed by myself.  I don't know how to describe it .... It is one thing when I can't run without getting winded when I am "healthy". Heck, I am an overweight, out of condition, middle aged woman .... So that is my own fault and I can understand it.  But this .... I look at this left breast and have to ask "why!?"  Seems like a separate entity just doing its own thing and not being a team player!

    Now am hoping that I have no further set backs. This breast needs to behave! LOL

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited August 2014

    Ever, you are working!  You are walking!  You're doing pretty darn good!  But I sure do know what you mean!

    Make, thanks for the info, I was wondering when they would start thinking about transfusions.

    Do you take iron pills or adjust your diet at all?

  • Ddkath70
    Ddkath70 Member Posts: 129
    edited August 2014

    Makelemonade: I totally understand when you say you feel like you've been betrayed. I do too. I feel like my body has betrayed me, and I don't know if I can ever trust again. Every single twinge, ache, itch, bump is going sent me into a 5 day frenzy.

    I'm also meeting with my RO on Friday and will find out more about RADS. I want to start, but honestly I'm still so fatigued I'm not sure that I can drive there every day. OR, maybe by doing so I will start to get my energy back??? does it work like that with this fatigue? The more you work out, the better you feel?I don't know, I've just been so emotional  the last few days. I just want to be able to get out and do stuff. 

    Everforward: I hear you!!! LOL! I live in a Cul de sac and one single girl lives in the house across from me. She's tall, skinny as hell, long blond hair and works out like 2 a day! she's either coming back from yoga with her matt, or from a run. So annoying. I can't be friends with her. when I look at her, I think, all she has to worry about is what color work out clothes she's going to wear with her shiny new sneakers. UGH! I don't want to be bitter, but there it is. 

    I feel fat, bald, out of energy, not very motivated, really don't want to be around anyone, and I cry at the drop of a dime. How's that for amazing a brave? This is not like me, and I have to turn this around somehow. 

  • lilyrose53
    lilyrose53 Member Posts: 216
    edited August 2014

    Ddkath,

    I can totally relate to the whole feeling fat, bald, no motivation, ect.  That's me in a nutshell.  I don't feel like myself at all.  I get kind of angry that I can't do anything I was doing six months ago.  All I can say is, I sure hope we get back to some semblance of 'normal' one day.  I'm trying to remember to take one day at a time.

    MakeLemonade,  I'm sorry you are dealing with neuropathy too.  For me, it is THE most annoying SE right now.  I'm glad you will be able to make your trip this fall!

    Ever forward,  I can totally relate to your feelings when you see healthy people running around doing so much with out a thought!  I sometimes think I need a punching bag to release my anger.

    I'm sitting in the chair right now getting Taxol#10.  Can't wait for this to end.  

    To everyone else,  I'm too tired to go back and read the last few pages.  So I will just say that I hope you are all doing well today.  May you all have a better week!  Hugs,  lilyrose

  • MommyQ
    MommyQ Member Posts: 117
    edited August 2014

    Timbuk2 & clarrn: Sorry to hear about all the recent troubles and stresses. Sending positive vibes your way. 

    Everforward: I LOL-ed reading your post about wanting to punch Miss Perfect in the face!!!

    Well, it's a happy day for me today. I am sitting in my chair, getting my 6th and last chemo treatment! Yay! My MO gave me a leia to wear and I get to ring the bell when I'm done. One more journey to the dark place and back, and then...radiation! OK, I'm not looking forward to rads, but at least I've reached a milestone in this journey. Here's a pic from my chair.  Best wishes to everyone for good minimal SE days.

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  • MakeLemonade
    MakeLemonade Member Posts: 153
    edited August 2014

    Timbuktu - I was told by someone dressed in scrubs (no brain power and certainly didn't have it then when they told me <g>) that dietary iron wouldn't absorb to raise the hemoglobin.  I just try to take in a lot of protein, not that it did me a lot of good two times!  Another nurse said that, for some people, if the hemoglobin is going to down, it is going to go down.  She even said to not be surprised if I have to have another one a 3rd time.  Am hoping that it can recover ... 

    MommyQ ... you look great!!  Congrats on the last chemo!   

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited August 2014

    I am posting this on a couple of boards because I think it is interesting and might help someone.

    http://blog.dana-farber.org/insight/2014/08/post-traumatic-stress-and-cancer/

  • MommyQ
    MommyQ Member Posts: 117
    edited August 2014

    MakeLemonade:  Thanks!!! Looks like we'll be doing rads together.  That's great you like your RO and can make it to Cali! Please let me know how simulation/set up go.  I meet my RO for my initial consultation tomorrow morning. I think we should join both the Summer and Fall Rads groups. Summer Rads folks can warn us about what to expect.  Fall Rads folks will be on our schedule, so we can discuss our day to day stuff as we go through it together. 

    Hope your hemoglobin levels are getting better. As far as your comment about being betrayed by your body, I don't know if that's how I feel. I think I'm more confused why I got breast cancer. I am not predispositioned by my genes to get it and only have one case of breast cancer in the family, which was one cousin. I just don't understand how I got it. Maybe it's my love of everything fragranced (perfume, soaps, lotions, etc), with all the parabens and styrenes that did it. 

  • MakeLemonade
    MakeLemonade Member Posts: 153
    edited August 2014

    Congrats on finishing chemo MommyQ!

    I also feel confused ... however, I have not used too much fraganced products.  And no history of breast cancer in my family at all! 

    My biggest factor, other than just having breast tissue :-), is late onset menopause.  I had 2 periods while on chemo and I swear it feels like I am getting another period now!  I am so DONE with having periods ... I am going to be 57 soon, so it is time to STOP!    My onco nurses say it is great for my heart and bones, however, having a period is not good for breast cancer.  

    I joined the Summer rads group a while ago as I was nearing the end of chemo.  Just haven't posted ... then things got postponed ... 

    You mentioned cording over on Fall rads ... see if you can get to see an LE PT before rads start.  My RO said that it is even possible to have a full lymphedema massage in the first week as the skin should still be okay then.

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited August 2014

    I didn't go through menopause until 59 and got breast cancer at 61.  I also got my period at 11 so I had a lot of estrogen over my lifetime.  My mother had breast cancer at 65, so I did have the gene.

  • Ddkath70
    Ddkath70 Member Posts: 129
    edited August 2014

    No BC gene here either. I even had the BRCA1 and BRCA2 test - both negative. I have one aunt who had it and one cousin - I never thought in a million years I would get it. 

    Anyway, MommyQ and MakeLemonade I believe I will be right along with you in the RADs cycle. I meet with my RO tomorrow morning and I'm assuming they will schedule the simulation for next week. Anxious to get this started, although I'm worried about the fatigue and getting there everyday. It's 30 min from my house. UGH. 

    Had some swelling in my ankles yesterday, but it seems to be a bit better today. I'm definitely retaining water. I meet with MO today to go over the end of chemo so I will see what she has to say. I also want to know if I can start taking Biotin for hair/nails. 

    Can't wait for the weather to cool down so that I can start walking. I'm jealous of all of you who can get out and do a little walking. It's still in triple digits here!

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited August 2014

    I think a common misconception of who gets breast cancer is that more of us have the genes that make us more susceptible.  Only about 10% of the women diagnosed with breast cancer are thought to be hereditary.  I thought the same way - why did I get it - until I realized that I am in the 90 %.  The reason that so much is discussed about the brca 1 and 2 genes is that if you have those genes then the odds of you getting breast cancer is 50% and up.

    I know I would like to know why me - but it seems that this disease is an equal opportunity disease.  

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited August 2014

    I think they have not discovered all of the genes.  I know someone whose mother and sister and grandmother had it.  the dr. said it was definitely genetic, they just don't know the gene yet.

    Has anyone here had discoloration of eyelids?  My eyelids and above seem to be turning orange.

  • Swissmiss
    Swissmiss Member Posts: 111
    edited August 2014

    Figuring out why I got BC is one of my preoccupations :). I think it came down to a surge in estrogen in my system, some call it estrogen dominance. Of course, this is just my opinion.  But I really want to figure this out so my daughter can be better prepared and hopefully avoid going through this. My genetic test was negative   too...although ALL of my paternal grandpa's sisters had breast cancer.  My dad doesn't have any sisters, but I certainly take after his side of the family, in general.  I just think I'd feel more at peace if I knew the exact origins behind my cancer.

    I am four weeks PFC and still no hair :( I still have some muscle stiffness from the Taxol, but each day is better.  I started exercising today...my kids went back to school this morning, so I figured I should work too ;) I also went to my sixth RADS session today...only 27 to go!  I feel like I am "getting the job done."  

    Hope you're all having a great day!

  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited August 2014


    Hello Ladies, Congrats to all who have just finished chemo.  Fantastic!!!

    I started the actual radiation treatments one week ago today (exactly 2 weeks PFC), so I've had 6 sessions and so far, so good - but that's what I would expect early in the game.  I basically did well on chemo, so I'm hoping and praying that rads will go well too.  That's my philosophy until proven otherwise!  The set up session was a piece of cake, then went back the day before the first actual treatment to make sure the measurements were correct.  My rads are an easier commute than chemo - only about a 15 minute drive.  Door to door, the whole thing takes me about 45 minutes total.  I put on Calendula cream 2-3 x a day (once immediately after rads--so they recommend you have 2 bottles & just keep one in your purse) & the ointment version of it at night.  I told my RO that it was hard to spread and she said since I'm small breasted at least for now, I really only have to put on the cream at night too. 

    Several months ago, I posted some on the Spring 2014 Rads thread because I wanted to see what's coming.  So I will look for the Summer & Fall Rads threads.  Haven't noticed them??

    I thought I'd made a post somewhere about my port removal two days ago in the surgeon's office (rather than the hospital), but don't think it posted for some reason.  It was so easy.  I put lidocaine on the port area few hrs before, still felt some stinging from the Novacaine, but the actual removal was quick and painless.  My husband held my hand throughout.  Didn't have to go to the hospital fasting and run the risk of getting an infection there, not to mention the aftereffects of twilight sleep. 

    The suggestion of getting an education and baseline arm and hand measurements from an LE PT is a good one.  Mine was a few months ago, and I have an appointment to have a sleeve and glove fitted next Monday.  I was told to wear it proactively when I fly - my first time will be in early Oct. 

    Don't know about orange eyelids someone mentioned, but did have swollen ones, and eye doc confirmed I had an infection in both eyes a week ago - used steroid eye drops 4 x day & infection gone today.  Lost all my eyelashes - again - and thought maybe that clogged up ducts caused swelling, but she said No & to use hot compresses for that.  Eye infection = no liner which makes me look like an alien.  My whitish stand up hair is growing, and I've decided it makes me look exactly like Yoda - the little guy from the Star Wars movie.  Lol!  

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited August 2014

    Went out to the mall for a little bit today and darned if I didn't feel jealous of everyone!  I realized the reason I was not jealous before was because I never left the house!  I felt like yelling at all of those healthy people "do you know how lucky you are?"  Of course I have no idea who has been through this themselves.  I'd like to think there is a good place waiting for us at the end of all of this.

    My dr has not returned my call, nor has her nurse, nor has the social worker.

    I made an app with my onco at Sloan for Sept.  But that's a long time away.

    My goal right now is to not lose my mind.  But maybe I should, and get some action!

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited August 2014

    No, I don't think they have discovered all the genes either.  I heard a researcher posit that antibiotics were responsible for the increase in a lot of diseases since 1930 - cancer, diabetes 1 and 2, ALS, on and on.  It is his theory that above and beyond the bad and good bacteria that we know of there are other good bacteria that have been bred out of our systems by the over use of antibiotics.  His reasoning and research seemed quite sound. 

    I am banking on the potato.  The potato has 2 more chromosomes than humans do and scientists have done a good job of rooting out potato disease.  There is hope!

  • Tinkerbells
    Tinkerbells Member Posts: 211
    edited August 2014

    I for one believe it was genetics in my case- cancer on both sides of family (not breast!) going backs generations. I have genetic testing later this month- but I doubt it's brca. It's probably an unknown mutation for me. I was also surrounded by secondhand smoke most of my childhood/ teen years, which did not help.

    I, too, feel Ike screaming when surrounded by the healthy masses. If only they knew. I feel like I'm the only one, a space alien landed here. Scream away brigadoon , ever!

    Was also in the chair today, st Louis! 2 more to go! Next week I'm off treatment for a week to enjoy the beach!

    I'm really apprehensive about chemo ending. What then? I'm comforted by my year of herceptin/perjeta. I'm certain it will be hard for me when that ends.

    Glad to see so many posts- I hope we all continue to post from time to time to keep up with each other.

    I have spoken to my onc about future trials of neratinib, vaccines , etc . Not surprisingly she seemed to downplay them. I will investigate them anyway. I think I learn more on these boards than anywhere else.

    Sandra

  • MommyQ
    MommyQ Member Posts: 117
    edited August 2014

    Hmmm, it sounds like a lot of us are in the same boat. Totally shocked to get BC with little or no history. I sure hope docs can figure out the cause(s) soon. I would like it if my 2 daughters didn't get BC, too. In the meantime, I'm trying to buy more organic foods, and get rid of products with synthethic fragrances, parabens, sulfates, and phthalates; BPA containers and flame-retardant clothing; oxybenzone in sunscreens, etc.

    MakeLemonade: My MO sent an order over to the PT office yesterday and I was supposed to get a call today from them to set up an appointment, but I never heard from them. I'll have to call tomorrow if they don't call me first. I want to get rid of this cording now!!! Thanks for the info on LE massage up through first week of rads. Good to know. Wow, yeah, tell your period to stop already...YIKES! I had 2 periods during early chemo and then they stopped. So now chemo is done, I wonder if it'll come back. Probably. Yuck.

    Ddkath70: Yay, another rad buddy. :) I've been lucky in St. Louis this summer to have very mild temps. Usually, it's crazy hot & humid here in the summers (90s-100s), but it's been 70s-low 90s so far, so I've been walking my dog when I feel up to it (when I'm not out of breath taking only 3 steps).

    SwissMiss: I think it's gonna take several months before we can ditch our headcovers, unfortunately. :( I hear it takes a while for the hair to come back. Glad you're feeling better each day, though!

    MomMom: That's great that rads are going well for you and port removal was a piece of cake! I haven't decided whether to get mine out before rads or wait until after they're done.

    Timbuktu & Mscaruso: I'm always amazed when I find out about others who've beat BC. There are SO many of us out there. You can't tell by looking at them because they've resumed a normal life, and we will too. One day at a time. We'll get there. :)

  • jhodro
    jhodro Member Posts: 240
    edited August 2014

    i was negative for brca genes too. i don't think I will ever know what caused my cancer. I just hope my treatment works. 

    Sorry Timbuktu...wish it was going better with the docs.

    Tomorrow I have my dry run for rads and then start my 33 treatments Monday. 

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited August 2014

    It took all week to find out but there was a misunderstanding with my dr and she didn't mean that I had another malignancy!  Alll week!  No one called back!  I got through today by calling the social worker, explaining my situation and she called my dr. for me who had her nurse call me.  All's well that ends well but I wish it had been taken care of sooner!

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited August 2014

    Timbuktu - any chance you can get a different MO?  You really don't need the kind of stress this doc is putting you through!!.  

    My GP said that everyone has cancer cells in their body and that there is some kind of trigger that sets them off in some people.  Viruses have been suspect, chemical exposure have been suspect and genetics is definitely suspect among other things.  I believe it is mostly environmental toxins.  I was stationed at Ft McClellan Alabama for basic training.  It is now considered one of the dirtiest places on earth.  Monsanto made the town of Anniston one of their dumping grounds.  There is a fund to provide for care for the people of Anniston by Monsanto for all the cancers that have come out of that area but it does not provide for the soldiers stationed there.  Our government refuses to acknowledge that this is an issue cause then they would have to provide the healthcare.  Ft McClennan was a testing ground for alot of chemical agents including agent orange and worse.   I got really sick when I was there in the late 70's - an unknown virus.  I think that may be my trigger.   But on the other hand I have a friend with BC - she has always been the most health conscience person I know - was eating organic when most didn't even know what that meant, has always been in shape, and no one in her family has ever had it.  When she was diagnosed she was very angry.  She kept telling me that she didn't "deserve" it.  This was before I had it.  She stayed angry for about 6 months - she finally accepted it as just bad luck.

    If they could figure out the triggers for cancer then they could find a cure.  I really think they are starting to get there as they are developing more and more gene therapy drugs that turn triggers off.  We can sure hope.

    On a whole other subject - I am awaiting a bone scan test.  My alk phos continues to rise even after chemo has been stopped - over 6 weeks ago.  Initially the MO thought it was chemo caused and he still mostly believes that but I also have a nagging back pain since the middle of May so with both of those happening he is a bit concerned with mets to my spine - uggghhh.  Had the test yesterday but will not find out the results until next week.  Keep me in your thoughts and prayers. 

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited August 2014

    Linda, I'm saying a prayer for you right now,  Let us know when you find out it's all clear!

    As for how we get cancer, what a mystery!  My aunt used to have a coffee klatch every evening in her apartment.  A group of about 5 women would smoke and drink coffee all night.  Four of the women died early from cancer.  My aunt is still going strong at 85, no cancer.  She eats meat and cheese, stays away from carbs.  Smoked for decades.  Had plenty of stress.  No one in my father's family had cancer, just cardiovascular disease.  

    Then there's Jimmy Carter.  His father and all his siblings died young from pancreatic cancer.  He's still going strong.  I read that they're studying him.  There is a very carcinogenic fungus that grows on raw peanuts.  But he seems immune.  BTW, my son took a class on cancer when he was in med school.  The one thing he walked away with was to never eat raw nuts.  Never buy unroasted peanut butter.  The professor said Jif, Peter Pan, etc were the way to go, preservatives are good!  

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited August 2014

    Wishing you the best outcome, Linda.

    Congrats on the last chemo, MommyQ ( and anyone else who may have hit this milestone).

    Funny, I don't really question getting breast cancer.  Because my mother and aunt had it, I may have just expected it - and glad it held off so long.  Still not happy about getting it, obviously.

  • lilyrose53
    lilyrose53 Member Posts: 216
    edited August 2014

    Linda,  Praying for a good outcome on your bone scan.  I have no idea why cancer picks some and not others.  I'm BRCA neg and have no history of BC in my family except for my paternal grandmother.  

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