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  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited August 2014

    ndgrrl, I don't mean that extra weight is at the root of all BC, otherwise skinny minnies would not be getting it.(*)  Is it one of the many factors?  Most likely...and probably for the estrogen production reason.   You know how the saying goes that the biggest risk of getting BC is being female?   Sooo, which gender is known for their estrogen production?   Us gals, of course, and the estrogen driven cancers are the most prevalent type out there.

    What I was asserting was that loss of estrogen is a BIG culprit in the formation of Middle Age Belly Fat.  MABF!  (Another acronym for the BCO coffers.)  Also, with loss of estrogen, we lose some muscle mass.  Since muscle mass burns more calories than most other body tissue, we become less efficient, overall, at doing that.  Double whammy!  Two good reasons why it is so difficult to prevail over the muffin top.

    (*)  Also, the flip side is that a heavy woman can get ER- BC, so we can't pin it on any one thing.

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited August 2014

    homemom - I'm starting at the Y on Tuesday for their Live Strong program.  You should check it out! By then I will be at 24/33 rads.  

  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited August 2014

    jbokland - I'm jealous! Sept 5 is my last Taxol. Cannot wait to get back to the exercise routine and check out the Y program. 

  • staynsane
    staynsane Member Posts: 213
    edited August 2014

    Ladies, thigh gap may be the rage among the young and near-anorexic, but speaking from personal experience, it's not all it's cracked up to be.  My legs, while long, have always been on the skinny side, and now that I'm (ahem) getting older, I really notice just how disproportional they are to the top half of my body.  Especially in short shorts, which I now only wear in my home.  I'm in the Bermuda years!  My eldest daughter has my husband's beefy thighs (but very muscular) and envies my "gap."  I'd prefer it if my legs were not so "toothpickish."  Can't wait to see what happens when menopause fully hits... Thank goodness that getting BC has made me accept myself as I now am, with increasing flaws.

    On another note, I went for a mammogram yesterday, AND AFTER TWO X-RAYS SHE LET ME GET DRESSED TO LEAVE!  Righty always was my favorite.

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited August 2014

    Let me join you with another well-behaved Righty, SnS.  Although I have some sore nodes in there, pain twinges in my scar area and itching in the SNB area once in a while on Righty, I just got the MRI results this morning and all is B9!!!  I did not think any BC would be in there, but I was afraid that a false positive would put me thru' the mill again.  This really feels good to have been all clear upon the close inspection of MRI.  Happy dance time!

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    BTW, I have a new pet, a black Russian dwarf hamster.  Super evil.  He bites til you bleed.  His name is Dexter. 

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited August 2014

    Dexter!!! I love it elimar! but please be careful, and never let him escape to breed with other rodents he might find in the wild!! i can tell you love him already!

    Snsane, you described my body exactly. like near rotund with stick legs n arms, sorta like a childs drawing!

    why am i using so many of !!!!!

    YaY!!! for good test results! elimar, some of my nodes are all swollen and hard, i cant even believe i have any left on that side, i thought they dragged em all out!!!

    HomeMom, sept 5 is my belly button birthday, and i can't think of a better present you could give me than it being the last day of that life saving poison for you!!!

    women on bco saved my sanity yesterday. thank you.

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited August 2014

    Let him lose to breed?  Never.  I did already contemplate putting him in the yard when the eagles are circling, if he doesn't shape up fast.

    On the other (bitten) hand, maybe I should keep him around to see if HE gets cancer now.

  • macatacmv
    macatacmv Member Posts: 1,386
    edited August 2014

    joining you, both in the happy dance!!!!!!

    it always takes so long to get pets trained to where ya like em, that they croak soon after.

  • 3rdtimenow
    3rdtimenow Member Posts: 256
    edited August 2014

    Great news, Elimar.

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited August 2014

    Dexter!!!!  Needs a sister, name her Deb!

  • staynsane
    staynsane Member Posts: 213
    edited August 2014

    Who knew there was such an animal as a black Russian dwarf hamster!  I only go for pets who love me back these days.  But I'm really over trying to keep dog hair minimized (with a Foxhound/Walker hound mix and a yellow lab).  They are both 12 or 13 (have to check their file) and when they "move on" I'm ready for a break.  I'm sure I will always have a dog or two, but smaller, much smaller. I think one of the homeliest breeds on the planet is the Mexican hairless, but that is what I keep threatening my husband with.

    Yay to all with clear scans, rays and probes!  But Eli, I must mention that I had an MRI on my shoulder about five years ago that clearly showed I had a torn rotator cuff (back in my volleyball days).  Surgery followed, and I was told my rotator cuff was in great shape, so the doc just removed scar tissue, and as I like to say, the *ucker left me with a pucker.  One of the three small scars in my shoulder was stitched so that the skin does a weird pucker thing when I lift my arm.  As it turned out, I had frozen shoulder, and that just took a year and a half to resolve on its own (two months of PT did nothing, so I stopped going).  My point is that none of these tests is 100% accurate.

  • barsco1963
    barsco1963 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited August 2014

    Welcome dogsneverlie - you have found a place akin to the company water cooler. lol Lots of great conversation, information, support and encouragement from some pretty terrific middies.

    sns - crazy that you had to go through surgery to find that your rotator was just fine. There is no guarantees is there?

    I had the wonderful opportunity to meet a bco sister in person yesterday. We have communicated here and over the phone, but was so great to finally meet outside of the virtual world. She is only a couple of hours away so I am sure we will see each other again.

    Happy to hear that all seem to be doing well and test results are encouraging.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited August 2014

    Barsco!! Who did you meet? Why didn`t you call me?? hehehehhehe

  • barsco1963
    barsco1963 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited August 2014

    Hey Barbe - was just checking out where Alliston is - My sister with whom I was staying is in Stayner and the bco sister I met is in Angus. I didn't realize you were so close! Will definitely touch base with you next time I am in the area - sorry I didn't get to checking prior to this visit.

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited August 2014

    SnS, Did I sound too happy about my MRI?  Don't worry, I am going to have a realistic perspective on imaging for life.  If you have forgotten that my CRC surgery was a short 18 mos. after a "clear" colonoscopy, then you might have just had a Mid-Age Moment there.  Please try to remember all my scans and surgeries from now on.  (Wink!  Kidding you in a prissy way.)  Yes, all the scans have their miss rates.  But, I do feel a little "safer" for the moment, now having had that MRI on top of the mammo.  I have to have something extra, be it US or MRI, because my BC got missed my the mammo also. 

    Your "pucker" comment is hilarious, but I understand that feeling.  Stuff like that upsets me.  My two bigger abdominal scars?  One definitely looks like it came from a knife fight, the other more like a mellon baller mishap.  The day might come when I get some filler injected in there to raise the indents.  Can't slam the surgeon who scarred me tho', because he saved my life.  Or was it the robot?

    Barsco,  I have not met too many from the boards IRL.  Unless I have seen their photo in an avatar, they never look like how I picture them; but their personalities are exactly what I expect from having read their posts.  Glad you had a chance to meet.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited August 2014

    I met one too, a couple of days ago. I am so socially awkward still, i think i scared the crap  out of her at first. but she seemed pretty sturdy, and after a few minutes, it wasn't so weird at all! she'll probably never call me again, though... It was nice though, for a little while there we were both just talking like crazy! it's nice to talk about other things once in a while, but i don't think i can ever be done talking about bc, though. How about the rest of you? Did it feel strange at first to meet a sister from here? could be i am just a nut job.

  • macatacmv
    macatacmv Member Posts: 1,386
    edited August 2014

    I met a bco sister from a different thread last February. It was like we were long lost friends. But we felt that way right from the moment we met online. Or at least I did. I talk about ya'll like you live down the street. My DD is always who???? 

    kathec, note how small our social skillset is up in the header! 

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited August 2014

    macatac, i did notice that one! cracked me up!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited August 2014

    First time a bco sister and I met we didn`t shut up for a 3 hour drive to a get-together!!! Same on the way home! It`s just such a pleasure to talk to someone who get`s it.

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited August 2014

    lol.  Im imagining on BCO friendship board. 

    BALD MADONNA SEEKING ESCAPE. 

    45 yo married lady seeks friend to help me escape from DH for occasional cocktails. Just so we have lots to chat about: Must be stage I or higher.  Prefer  left  breast idc.   ER/PR negative a plus. 

  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited August 2014

    jbokland ROLFLMAO!!! 

    That's actually me LOL

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited August 2014
  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited August 2014

    Too funny!   

  • lovewins
    lovewins Member Posts: 881
    edited August 2014


    "kathec, note how small our social skillset is up in the header! "

    too funny macatacmy!!!!

  • lovewins
    lovewins Member Posts: 881
    edited August 2014

    jbokland ROLFLMAO!!! ditto

  • marlegal
    marlegal Member Posts: 2,264
    edited August 2014

    Hi buddies :) Finally got to read a couple pages of recent things. Glad to see things going well for so many of you.

    Meeting others through bco - I met a few local gals from the chat rooms (that's where I spent most of my time after dx...hadn't found the Boards at that point) and we did the non-stop talk like we knew each other forever thing! We go to lunch or dinner at least once a year. Then 2 yrs after dx 27 of us, most of whom never met before, went to Vegas for 4 days. It was one of the best trips I ever took in my life. I've since been to FL twice and Virginia once with bco women, and last year joined up with the TaTas Vegas group from the Boards, about 30 of them. Going again 9/25-9/29 with them to Vegas this year. It was like meeting 30 friends/family. I've been looking forward to this year's trip since I got home last year!

  • staynsane
    staynsane Member Posts: 213
    edited August 2014

    Jbokland- Love the friendship ad!  About six months ago I saw an ad on TV for "Farmers Only," a dating site for more rural dwellers.  I thought the ad was hugely comical, but told my husband in passing that it would be a good one for my hermit brother to check out, since he and his girlfriend had just broken up.  He lives on 5 acres in a very small town (podunk comes to mind), has horses and his own business, and prefers to stay there.  Update: he has been dating a women he met through FO! 

    Eli- Didn't mean to detract from your happiness about a clear MRI, and I apologize.  Just sharing my experience.  Your experience with them and awareness about their flaws trumps mine (it was my first and only).  You provide a wealth of info about a lot of procedures that I hope I never have to endure.

  • DallasCowboyFan
    DallasCowboyFan Member Posts: 7
    edited August 2014

    Hello Everyone,

    This is my first post ever on any discussion board.  A friend recently told me about this site and I thought I would check it out.  My journey officially began on December 22nd, 2013 when I went for a routine mam.  Got a call on January 3rd to go back for a second which I did on January 24th, 2014.  Got a call a week later and scheduled my appointment with breast surgeon.  Went for ultra-sound and biopsy and was diagnosed on Valentine's Day with breast cancer.  Estrogen+ Progesterone- Her2- +1.

    Originally scheduled for left lumpectomy, radiation and hormone drug therapy.  That plan quickly changed after the MRI when my surgeon told me that she was not comfortable with margins and how my breast would look after the surgery. After weighing the pros and cons I decided to not take any chances and went for the mastectomy.  Had the surgery in April along with sentinel node dissection.  The results on the nodes during surgery were negative so the plastic surgeon started the reconstruction process and inserted the expander.  Got a call a week later from my BS and the final pathology indicated 1 out of the two nodes were positive.  Back to surgery in May to remove the rest of the nodes left side (total of 6 more) and all were negative.  Since I had one positive node, I was now faced with having to go through chemotherapy which I was hoping would not happen.  I was devastated as you can well imagine. I remember how numb I felt after meeting with the oncologist and oncologist nurse to discuss the treatment protocol and all the side effects -- everything that I had to consider (4 A/C followed by 4 Taxol). I also remember telling my husband upon leaving the facility that I did not belong there. This was not happening to me. We were both depressed at that moment.

    I was out of work for a total of six weeks during the surgery process and went back end of May. I have a demanding job and I travel 3-4 days a week. Started chemo on June 4th. Lost hair after 1st treatment and just before 2nd treatment. That was difficult. Only wear wig at work as I cannot stand having it on my head!  Finished A/C and had my first Taxol treatment a week ago.  I am still working a full schedule and traveling except for the day of chemo.  It is getting harder and harder with each treatment.  I feel grateful that my side effects have not been severe, (had nausea and fatigue with A/C) and after my first Taxol have had significant pain in lower extremities and praying that does not continue through next 3 treatments.  I still have to finish reconstruction hopefully before year end and I will go on hormone therapy for 5 years so I continue to be a work in progress. Still scared, nervous and wondering how I will feel when this is all behind me.  I am turning 58 next week.  Thanks for listening and feel free to offer any advice since I am new to this whole sharing concept.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited August 2014

    Dallas, welcome and glad you joined us. I am impressed that you have been able to stick to a normal work schedule through chemo. Did you discuss the post-taxol pain with your onc? I had something similar with taxotere, and for the next treatment they gave me steroids for a day longer, which really helped.

  • DallasCowboyFan
    DallasCowboyFan Member Posts: 7
    edited August 2014

    Thanks, Momine -- I have my next treatment next Friday and plan to discuss the pain with Onc then.  It lasted for several days and I am just now feeling better.  I have a high tolerance to pain and it was beyond what I could take.  I'll take all the advice I can get at this point.  Took me 6 months to come to full acceptance which I now think was totally crazy.  Only now feel comfortable talking about what I am going through.  Hoping I am not the only one who has traveled this path. 

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