July 2014 Surgery Sisters

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  • Kellogg2006
    Kellogg2006 Member Posts: 186
    edited August 2014

    Thanks everyone. It does help to know there is a place where people get it.  My family and friends are very supportive and helping and that's wonderful but they just don't get that I want to be able to do this.  

    Jill8 I am constantly saying the same things.  I just want to feel normal again.

    Kimag thanks it is nice to know there are others out there who have a little one and it does get better. 

  • Straitlover
    Straitlover Member Posts: 124
    edited August 2014

    Checking back in! Surgery was Wed, left the hospital Thurs late afternoon. There was confusion on the diet, so I didn't get anything to eat  until around Noon Thursday (so 36 hours!!!).

    We didn't get back to my house until 4:30 or so, and I was tired, so we stayed at my house that night and headed to my sister's Friday morning. I felt pretty good, so I think I overdid it  a little because I was extra sore and had a fever this AM. I took a tylenol and climbed out from under the quilt, and it finally cam back to normal. The PS said I could actually take a sower Friday, but I waited until today. I was able to do it all by myself except for my back.

    I'm about to fall asleep, so I will check in later.

  • Ally2345
    Ally2345 Member Posts: 320
    edited August 2014

    Straitlover-  woohoo on your surgery!!  Sounds like you have done really well.  Remember the mantra "just because you can, doesn't mean you should."  There is lots of healing going on inside that we often forget about because we feel pretty good. Keep posting and best wishes for a continued great recovery!

    Ally

  • Kellogg2006
    Kellogg2006 Member Posts: 186
    edited August 2014

    straitlover congrats sounds like your doing great. I'm jealous my PS says no shower for 2 weeks.  One more week to go for me.

  • Monica1013
    Monica1013 Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2014

    Hello all -

    Almost 2 weeks post Bi-lateral surgery, I feel ok - still limited with movement and extremely tight in the chest area. I go back to PS tomorrow hopefully to get the remaining 2 drains out, I really dislike them they are such a hassle.

    I do have a question for you all, while I am physically healing, I feel like mentally I am getting really down in dumps despite getting great news from my breast surgeon about clear nodes, I can't shake this small bout of depression. Does this last long because its totally not me and really freaking me out a bit.

    Thanks 

    Monica

  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited August 2014

    kimag - Sorry to hear about your difficulties with the stretching.  I hope you will be able to tolerate the stretching better soon!  I just replied on your other thread about the Oncotype test and Tamoxifen because I am in a very similar situation.

    To belleb and all the other ladies suffering with drains - hang in there!!!  They definitely STINK!!  I had a daily countdown until I got the last two out this past week.  You will certainly feel much better when they are gone!!

    jill8 and kellogg2006 - I can't wait to feel normal again, too!!  I am encouraged by the little improvements and can't wait to see what I will be able to do in a week. 

    monica1013 - I have also found that I have been wrestling with feeling more down than I was - for the most part I am just letting myself feel that way and hoping it won't last long.  I think I went into this trying to be so strong and positive and now the surgery is over and recovery is going well but is kind of slow, so it can get me down.  I think that is why I set up little, I guess you'd call them challenges.  Like I mentioned above - I did the countdown until the drains came out, I like to see how much my arm mobility changes as I keep doing the exercises and then I am happy when I see I can lift my arm higher or can reach something on the middle shelf.   Doing things like that have been helping me feel like I am accomplishing something and that makes me smile!

  • belleb
    belleb Member Posts: 170
    edited August 2014

    I have to admit, I am frustrated with how slow going the recovery is. I guess after two lumpectomies I was thinking, "well, it can't be THAT much different, can it??". Yes, yes it can. LOL. I'm still pretty comfortable when I am sitting or laying, but as soon as I get up to walk around the tightness in my chest and all the soreness up and down my sides and the drain sites becomes magnified and I just keep thinking I shouldn't be in this much discomfort still. I see the BS tomorrow, and still hoping the drains come out. I've been below 20ccs on both sides for days now, so I think I should be good. I'm praying that getting the drains out is the magic relief I have been hoping for! I have no idea why I had convinced myself this (pretty major surgery) wouldn't be too difficult to bounce back from. In terms of pain, no, I'm not in any REGULARLY, but the standing up and walking is downright uncomfortable and I'm ready to move past it. Anyway, I'm rambling now....

  • Purplegurll
    Purplegurll Member Posts: 135
    edited August 2014

    Hi girls,

    It's been awhile since I've posted here.  I've been reading back on everyone's progress. Yesterday was a month from BMX and reconstruction surgery for me and I'm pleased to report that I'm finally feeling pretty "normal". I did a bunch of house cleaning on Friday (vacuuming, cleaning bathrooms, changing cat litter) - routine things that would have felt impossible to tackle even two weeks ago. Today I went out for a two mile walk and I'm cleared to go back to work tomorrow. So hang in there everyone! Normal WILL come for each of you. 

    I'm still having some issues with the skin healing on the reconstructed breast where I previously had radiation and the oncologist does not want to start chemo until it does, which makes sense. I don't want chemo but on the other hand, it's driving me crazy to have the start date undetermined so I sure hope we can lock that down soon. 

  • Ally2345
    Ally2345 Member Posts: 320
    edited August 2014

    belleb-  here's hoping you get those drains out.  It is better without them though you should tell your doc about the discomfort you have when you stand.  Hang in there!! 

    Purplegurl-  sounds like you are doing really well, which we love to celebrate!!  Isn't it funny how just doing something routine is a milestone after this kind of surgery!!  Hope the radiated side heals so you can get a plan with dates. That always helps me!!

    Ally

  • jill8
    jill8 Member Posts: 9
    edited August 2014

    Purplegurl - thanks so much for writing and giving me inspiration!  After reading your post, I am hopeful that in a couple of weeks I too will be back to normal things like vacuuming (never thought I would wish I could push a vacuum around my house!). Your post makes me feel so much better that I will get through this uncomfortable stage relatively quickly.  My doctors have been insisting that I rest (I walked a couple of miles three days after surgery and got my hands slapped for trying to do too much too soon) which has been really hard because I just want to get back to my usual life. Knowing that it may only be for a couple more weeks gives me even more reason to just take it easy now to help with the healing. I hope you continue to get better quickly and your chemo gets scheduled soon.

  • belleb
    belleb Member Posts: 170
    edited August 2014

    Back from the surgeon and no more drains - woohoo! I have an appointment for next Wednesday and he did say if I had a bunch of fluid build up between now and then he would manually drain it at that appointment. Eek! Not gonna lie, I did not enjoy the drain removal. It wasn't that it was overly painful, but I didn't realize just how much tubing was inside me (I'd say 8-10 inches). It hurt briefly when it all came out, but quickly subsided. My body didn't like the shock much, though, and I almost passed out when we got up to leave. Embarrassing. A few minutes sitting down in the waiting room with some water did the trick, though, and I'm feeling fine now. Hope everyone else is having a good day!

  • Straitlover
    Straitlover Member Posts: 124
    edited August 2014

    Anyone have an idea what this might be? On my stomach and my upper arms I have "chicken skin". It's not a red rash, just raised bumps all over, no itching. I don't recall if it was like that before I took my first shower or not, but I used regular Olay Body Wash like I always do. Since it's not itching or anything, I figured I just wait until my appt tomorrow w/ the PS to bring it up, but I figured I'd ask here in case anyone had the same issue.

    Other than that, I've just been sleeping a lot. I might try to sleep in the bed tonight w/ my long wedge and body pillows since my arm ROM is so well.

  • Straitlover
    Straitlover Member Posts: 124
    edited August 2014

    Forgot to say to belleb, yay on the no drains!!! I'm hoping that maybe i will lose at least one, maybe two tomorrow. I only have one valium left, so I am saving it for tomorrow before leaving for the appointment. I'm hoping he will give me some more to take before each fill appt. He was able to out in quite a bit during the TE placement (forgot to ask), but he did say I shouldn't have to have many fill appts. I do have cleavage, but I don't know how much of that is temporary swelling.

    My tummy is also very bloated, but I'm hoping that is from the surgery. I have had one BM on Sunday. I drank some of the mag citrate earlier today, but nothing has happened. I will drink the rest in an hour or so if needed. I don't feel like I need to go, so that's a plus. :)

  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited August 2014

    Hi Ladies,

    I enjoy reading all of your updates. They inspire me and comfort me during this challenging time.

    My surgical oncologist called today and the pathology report was not what was expected. Clean margins (by 1mm) on the previously diagnosed area in my right breast. (Yeah!) They sent additional tissue from another area of my right breast and tissue from my left breast to pathology. The second area of my right breast has atypical cells, non-cancerous. The tissue from the left breast showed microcalcifications and lobular carcinoma in situ. My lymph node was positive.

    I have an appointment later this week to meet with my surgical oncologist. By then, my case will have been presented to the "Tumor Board", and I will learn about their recommended treatment plan. I will also receive my complete pathology report. I know they want an MRI of my left breast and will have to have chemo. I don't know whether I will need more surgery.

    I am shocked.

  • belleb
    belleb Member Posts: 170
    edited August 2014

    Straitlover - hope you can get a drain out tomorrow! I'd definitely recommend the Valium for it. Some people say they feel nothing at all, but mine hurt a bit. It was fast, though, thankfully!

    Poppy - so sorry to hear that you got surprises in your path report. I know how it feels to be caught off guard like that. Here's hoping for a quick plan of action to come together for you so you can get to work fighting! 

  • Purplegurll
    Purplegurll Member Posts: 135
    edited August 2014

    Jill8, isn't it funny how something as mundane as pushing a vacuum cleaner can make you feel so proud of yourself? You will get there soon! In the interim, try not to overdo it.

    Belieb, congrats on getting those drains removed. I know how much better you must be feeling!

    PoppyK, I'm sorry about the surprise pathology.  I'll be thinking of you and hope you will have a treatment plan in place soon.

  • mel147
    mel147 Member Posts: 479
    edited August 2014

    belleb - Glad you got your drains out!!  The first one I had removed on the left side hurt like CRAZY but the right side wasn't too bad.  The two I had removed last week were much easier.  I also was shocked at how long they were.  I think you answered a question I just posted in the general section of the Surgery forum...I am noticing a wiggle-jiggle of fluid on the left side and posted to ask if anyone knew if that is normal and will resolve on it's own or if I would need to have it drained.  I'm calling the doctor tomorrow to let him know and see if I have to go in before my next appointment on the 13th.  

    PoppyK - I'm very sorry to hear about the surprises in your pathology report and that you will be facing chemo.  Hang in there.

    Straitlover - I can't offer an opinion on the red bumps since I didn't have that happen, but I hope it will be better in the morning.  Good luck at the appointment - hope you come home with a few less drains!

  • Ally2345
    Ally2345 Member Posts: 320
    edited August 2014

    belleb- I am with you on the removal and hoping I don't have drains on the exchange but I am telling myself that I will have them so I won't be disappointed when I wake up and there they are.   That being said, it is great to have them out and each day those sites will feel better.

    Poppy- So sorry that your report was not clean. Know that we are here for you.  Hang in there and just take it nor appointment at a time.  Hugs!!

    Straitlover- I had some red bumps on my tummy. They had me put neosporin or bactraban (sp) on them for a few days and they went away. I don't know if it was from the bandages on my drain sites or hives. They did go away.  Hoping you come home with a few less drains!  

    Ally

  • belleb
    belleb Member Posts: 170
    edited August 2014

    Aaaaand now my period decided to show up. Traded drains for that. Awesome. I had six blissful months of no cramps and bloating...oh well...lol

  • tlj030
    tlj030 Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2014

    I just got my last drain out this morning. I had to have a second surgery 19 days after my mastectomy. Some of my skin was not getting enough oxygen and turned black. The last drain removed was put in July 9th during my first surgery. I was so ready to have it removed. I am moving slower than I thought I would be but each day does get better.

  • ncollett
    ncollett Member Posts: 862
    edited August 2014

    Nancy Partial Mastectomy and Sentinel Node Biopsy July 30 2014 

  • ncollett
    ncollett Member Posts: 862
    edited August 2014

    Had surgery last wed. My lymph nodes came back clean. Still waiting on pathology report. Get my drain out tomorrow. It surprises me how nurses say I should not be in that much pain with a lumpectomy but Im telling you the spot where my sentinel node was taken hurts, my drain site hurts and so does my lumpectomy site. Either Im a wimp or they have no idea. I get my drain out tomorrow maybe that will help some. Radiation is next.

  • solacetea
    solacetea Member Posts: 28
    edited August 2014

    Well I did take a valium. I told the tech and the radiologist that the last SNB was agony so they used 2% Lidocaine to numb the breast instead of the usual 1% and that made all the difference. No pain! 

    The surgery went well and I was feeling great in recovery until I started pumping in the Dilaudid they gave me for pain. Turns out I am allergic to it. NOT FUN. Feeling like I was burning up, agitation, confusion, hallucinations. Then in the middle of the night my carpal tunnel flared up in the right arm (restricted  because of the prior LN removal). The morphine I was given after the dilaudid debacle wasn't touching it, so they gave me IV Toradol, which caused bleeding in my surgical site, very low BP and hemoglobin. I have a huge hematoma, my left chest and torso looks like I was hit by a bus. I spent a total of four days and three nights in hospital while they kept sticking my left arm to check the blood count. 

    I'm very tired and weak but not in a lot of pain. What an ordeal.

    Healing thoughts and thanks to all who answered me! 

  • Becky63
    Becky63 Member Posts: 47
    edited August 2014

    oh my gosh Solacetea, I'm so sorry you had to go through all of the agony.  Yes, healing thoughts and prayers.  I just learned that I was sent home with significant anemia.  It's amazing how much better I'm feeling with some iron supplements.  It gets better, so keep resting and keep us updated on your progress.

    Ncollett your pain is yours.  No one can tell you to not feel it.  Drains are miserable. Hopefully, you'll feel better when it's out.  You're tough woman.  You'll get through this.  

    Tlj030 I understand the slo-mo.  I had a 2nd surgery 20 days after the bmx.  My foobie migrated and got stuck up in my neck.  That was on 7/23, & I'm still unable to us my arms fully.  Plus, the swelling is slowing me down.  We'll be fine.  We are strong women.

  • Straitlover
    Straitlover Member Posts: 124
    edited August 2014

    Saw my PS yesterday. Still have all  4 drains  - boo! Said hopefully I will lose at least 2 next week. They only have office hours Tues afternoon, all day Wed and Thurs afternoon. Since I have an appt w/ the BS Wed 8/13 , I will wait until that day to go back to the PS since I have to arrange for rides. He did give me some more Valium, so sleeping last night was better (I have a lot of swelling in the chest area). Since today is a week since my sx, I am going to try and reduce my pain meds. Maybe norco just when I wake up and go to bed and only tylenol during the day? Temps outside are supposed to cool off a little for the next few days, so I'm hoping to get outside and walk some.

  • Ally2345
    Ally2345 Member Posts: 320
    edited August 2014

    Straitlover-  Hope you are able to get out and get some fresh air. It made me feel better thought I was really winded...my stamina stunk but it felt good to be outside.   Sorry about those drains. I know how annoying they can be. Hang in there...not much longer!!

    Ally

  • Kellogg2006
    Kellogg2006 Member Posts: 186
    edited August 2014

    I'm hating life right now.  Tomorrow's two weeks since surgery.  I still can't pick up my son and my husband has been working late so we've had to have friends come help me get him to bed.  And it just sucks.  Past two nights he's just cried and cried. I'm currently sitting on my deck so I can't hear it and I just want to cry. 

  • kimag
    kimag Member Posts: 114
    edited August 2014

    Kellog - hang on, all will be fine - I know it is hard , believe me I have been there... add to it that I my 2 elder sons where miserable as I could not cuddle them as before with drains and pain... they would come and try and not to know how to get closer.

    Each day will be better, I am 5 weeks post tomorrow and started to lift my 12 kg of Joy, I do not carry him yet, just short lifting to the bed or high chair but is feels so right and it so good to feel him.  I know it won't be long now to just hold him as usual and I do not feel as helpless.

    YOu are in week 2, and your little one is walking so at least you can get him around the house, mine crawls still so it was a bit tricky,  past week 3 I started to participate more in my youngest care, to not lift him I was sliding him on my knees/legs, like when I was seating I would put my leg between my sons legs and lift him and then slide him up on my knees, with the crib I would slide him out and have chair beside the crib to put my leg on and then slide him on the leg and down... of course I had to limit my self to not overdo it and increase my activities slowly. I had thyroid surgery when my eldest was your son age and could not lift for long time too so we developed some other technics to deal with it as he was miserable too.  Is yours still in the crib?  Can you pat his back or head when going to sleep or he is used to being on hands? I know it is hard but it won't be long you will see!

  • Kellogg2006
    Kellogg2006 Member Posts: 186
    edited August 2014

    thanks kimag!  I know in my head it will get better, but it is good to her it from someone in the same situation.  I let him sit on my lap and I do slide him on and off me to!  He let's me get him dressed and change his diapers on the floor.  He is still in his crib and he was used to falling asleep while I rocked him.  When we found out I was having surgery my husband started getting more involved in bedtime.  So it's much better then it could have been.  And on particularly bad nights like last night he laid in my bed next to me and fell asleep then my husband put him in his crib. I can't imagine having more than one kid!!   The doctor took my last 2 drains out today but said I needed to take it easy because I had some fluid build up and he might have to drain it next week. So my husband is adamant that I just rest and do as little as possible.   That's so hard with little ones around!  Luckily he is going to daycare full time during the week so it's mainly evenings and weekends that are the tough times. 

  • kimag
    kimag Member Posts: 114
    edited August 2014

    Kellogg, I was very lucky with my youngest - he started to fall asleep by himself just left in the crib when he was around 4 -5 months old. All we have to do is to put him in the crib, give pacifier and he will rumble in the bed a bit then fall asleep. But during the day he was with me, I was the one to feed him, carry around, bath and all that so it was very hard on the start as he would crawl to me asking to lift him and I could not do it. We do have to be careful to not push to much - it so tempting though. My mom came for 2 months to help me and would yell on me when she thinks I start to do to much to soon :) I think we should be grateful we have help that we can use as this will allow us to get better quicker, I cannot image how other moms with similar dx have to somehow manage everything by themselves. As for your son crying at the bed time it also maybe just anxiety as he feels something is different that you are stressed etc. My older at the thyroid surgery time was very cranky and behaved worse then usual, he also kind of punished me for being away in the hospital and then not being bale to lift, cuddle him like before so he would sometimes reject me and my heart was broken - lucky this time it is not a case. 

    Day by day it will get better, drains out - one victory!

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