Post Radiation Recovery

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Amazonwarrior
Amazonwarrior Member Posts: 485

Hi, 

I hope this thread to be beneficial to those who have been experiencing most adverse side effects AFTER radiation. 

So join in the discussion, share your stories and journeys in order to get through the difficult times together in support and friendship.

My rads were a breeze in comparison to what I have been experiencing ever since finishing them.

How have you been feeling after radiation?

Have you experiencing any radiation related symptoms?

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  • Amazonwarrior
    Amazonwarrior Member Posts: 485
    edited August 2014

    Hi, 

    Here is a bit of a summary of what I have been though so far:

    I had 25 rads(5x5) to the chest wall, axilla and supeaclavicular areas with 4 fields and received 50Gy in total. Since I had a mastectomy my RO decided to use a bolus every day half way through each session.

    My post mastectomy cording came back for a while during the early part of rads as well as warm tingling in my hand and prickly pain shooting down to my fingers, plus suffered from positioning hypotention throughout the rads, but it luckily it all resolved on its own.

    I experienced minimal skin redness and mild fatigue throughout the RT, but started to experience severe skin reaction after finishing. I developed a form of dry desquamation with a few weepy blisters.

    My skin reaction peaked at 12 days PFR and since then it started to gradually improve. Now I am 8 weeks PFR and the radiated skin colour has plateaued with a light brown tan.

    Because my immunity was so low the end of rads, I caught a viral bronchial infection that lasted for over a month.

    I had an issue with my radiated shoulder muscle that felt 'pinched', but has resolved on its own after about a week. Although it occasionally still bugs me now and then.

    Then I started to feel tightness, pain and heaviness in my chest. I had a burning sensation in my trachea plus my chest felt bruised up.

    I also have been experiencing horse voice and foreign object sensation when swallowing.

    My RO ordered a chest x-ray which turned up to be 'normal' and an ECG. I haven't heard back from his office regarding the ECG, so I am presuming its normal as well. 

    Having all these normal results makes me wonder what is going on considering all my current SE.

    Also, my fatigue level increased and my energy dropped dramatically at about 7 weeks PFR. I seem to be sleeping/ napping every chance I get about 11-12 h per day. 

    Lately I've been feeling lightheaded kind of comatose all the time which drives me crazy since I can't do much while feeling like that not even the recommended daily walking.

  • Kicks
    Kicks Member Posts: 4,131
    edited July 2014

    I started rads (25) a week after last Taxol and felt better every day.  Taxol had beem completely and utterly EXHAUSTING but I did exist through it.  I had no skin issues until day 24 when had a very slight pinkiah, day 25 was a slight bit pinker but basically nothing to worry about.  The morning after, I woke up to entire irradiated area 'open'.  The deepest of my burns were up the aide of neck and under arm around to back which were really deep (have 'nice' scars to prove).  Vicodan handled the pain and thamkfully the deepest (under arm and around to back) were in an area where there is nerve damage from mast. so they weren't that bad pain wise.  I never developed any infection even though the area was quite large and was there/open for months.  I'm allergic to Sulfa so Sulfadene/Silvadene was not an option.  I had a huge tub of aloe vera plants and completely destroyed it using it.  What finally got healing was Domeboro soaks.  According to what I was told (or as I understood it),  while you do want to moisturize skin, there comes a point with damaged skin that moisturing can discourage healing.  Drying can be called for.   My burns showed up early March and last scab came off June 29.  There were no signs of any healing until I started Domeboro soaks and almost immediately healing was obvious in the less deep burns but the deeper ones followed.

    I did burn VERY bad and in a way I hate to tell about it as there are ao many who are petrified of burning because of the 'horror stories' they've read/heard.  A few - VERY FEW of us - do burn bad but there are many different options to handle it.  It's been over 4 yrs since that time for me and the only thing I can say that I'd do different than I did (had I known at the time), is to have started the Domeboro soaks sooner.  Of course, everything done should always be cleared by your Dr before doing anything.  It was my Dr'sq RN that came up with using the Domeboro soaks but he approved.

    In the time since rads (burns healed), I've had NO issues that might be rad associated.  We are each unique!

  • Amazonwarrior
    Amazonwarrior Member Posts: 485
    edited July 2014

    kicks: Sorry to hear you had a rough time with the skin healing, but its reassuring to know that you found something that it finally helped heal. 

    It's great that its been 4 years, and no recurance!

    I've been struggling lately with the inner soreness that feels like I've been hit over the chest with a shovel as well as extreme fatigue, weakness and lightheadedness. My energy level seems to fluctuate wildly during this time as well. One minute I feel relatively fine, and next I am on the couch totally zonked. It's as if the ill feeling came in waves. 

    I wonder what I should be doing other than rest or sleep a lot to resolve this.

  • Kicks
    Kicks Member Posts: 4,131
    edited July 2014

    There are times that I 'argue with myself' as to rather or not I should tell my experiences.  There are so many who are petrified of what can happen with rads and have heard so many horror stories about what can happen.  Yes it does sometimes - but not for most.  I happen to be one that it did happen to. I try, to best of my ability, to present what happened with me as positivel as I can - not as something to fear, but be prepared for IF it happens.  If I had it to do again, I would in a heart beat  - the only thing I'd like to have been able to do differently is to know about and start the Domeboro soaks sooner.

    Have you had your Vit D level checked recently?   Many of us are low in Vit D and that can cause a lot of issues (tiredness, fatigue, depression, blahs, etc.).  It is not usually run with routine blood draws unless specificially requested.  I've had to be on mega doses of Vit D for over 20 years to stay in normal range.  Worse in winter when I have to also use my lightbox.  The farther north we live, the more likely to have problems with it.  Just a thought.

  • Amazonwarrior
    Amazonwarrior Member Posts: 485
    edited July 2014

    kicks: I believe that we should be sharing our stories no matter what. Even though our stories might be difficult for others to hear, they are each very unique and provide a full picture.

    You made it through and now you can be the light for others that may still be a rough patch.

  • Lilyluv
    Lilyluv Member Posts: 160
    edited August 2014

    I had 4 weeks of rads with boosts in February.  Had some burning under my breast but it was manageable.  Have been in physical therapy for cording by my arm which causes aching and tingling down my arm.  That has improved quite a bit although around my ribs and armpit, it's still achey.  The PT does tissue massage where the hard scar tissue is.  Had a lung CT (long story as to what triggered that), some scarring on my lung, a little fluid around my heart, and have had a cough that started a couple months ago.  Rad onc doesn't believe it's related but it's not a type of cough I usually get - sounds more like a smoker's cough than a deep bronchial cough.   .All in all nothing earth shattering.  The problem is the fatigue...neverending fatigue and it's been 5 months already!  Being an active person, it's driving me batty to have to take so many breaks to sit or lie down and want to do something but can't.  Had my thyroid checked and it actually had drifted high which ironically can cause fatigue.  Endocrinologist lowered my thyroid dose a few weeks ago, but I don't feel any different.  Still crazy tired.  I had to lower my treadmill workouts because sometimes I had to just crash on the floor afterwards and the entire next day I was exhausted.   The physical therapist had me change from 30-40 min.at regular speed three times a week down to 10 min. at a reduced speed five days a week recently.  I didn't know you could still be this wasted 5 months out from treatment.  Usually I'm running around doing things.  It's a struggle to get dressed and go out anywhere.  Wonder if age at treatment makes a difference or if it's the same no matter how old or young you are.    It's more of a frustration than anything else.  I can live with writing my daily schedule in the dust on the furniture. :-)

  • RaiderGirl
    RaiderGirl Member Posts: 419
    edited August 2014

    Hi kicks,

     I was instructed not to take any supplements of any kind during rads. Vit D, calcium, vit C, antioxidants all protect cells. Others are not known. Sadly they will also protect cancer cells too which of course we want to be vunerable to that the rads distroy them.

    I am started next week. 45 treatments.

    I'm not scared. I tell myself daily what a wonderful thing that science invented. A cancer zapper.Bawling Sounds sci-fi.

  • Kicks
    Kicks Member Posts: 4,131
    edited August 2014

    RaiderGirl - Different Drs will tell us different things.  I was approved by my Chemo Dr and Rads Dr to take my Vit. D, Super B Complex and potassium.  We are unique and they are different.  I have dealt with SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) for years and especially during winter (when my TX was), I need D suppliments and my light box to keep it under control and keep D levels close to 'normal'.  I have also taken B Complex for years and it was also approved.  1/2 way through 12 weekly Taxol, my potassium levels plummeted and it was added and still have to take it - apparently an odd, ongoing SE of Taxol for me but not all.  Calcium was also approved as I was already osteopenia.   I was given approval to use fresh garlic in cooking but not dried.  Vit C,  multivitamins and antioxidants were not along with several foods.

    We are each unique and there is no "One Size Fits All" when it comes to what is right for us individually.   We need to talk with our Drs to find out what is appropriate for us with any issues we might have other than our BC only.

  • Amazonwarrior
    Amazonwarrior Member Posts: 485
    edited August 2014

    Lilyluv: Sorry to hear you've been so much trouble. I hear you on the frustration about SE and getting the proper diagnosis. I have contacted my RO about my persisting symptoms ( chest pains, foreign sensation when swallowing, lightheadedness, horse and sore troat) and he was puzzled by all this saying he didn't believe it's related to rads, but I believe it IS. Hence the frustration. He is sending me to an ENT to check it out. He also suggested a detailed x-ray of the chest and a CT. Both test adding more radiation to the body and potentially harmful to my recovery so I declined both at this time, but will reconsider later.  

    raidergirl: If you don't mind me asking: Why do you need rads with zero positive nodes and grade 1?

    Re: supplement DURING rads: I was told no antioxidants: vit C, E. I was, however, taking 1 multivitamin daily, curcumin C3, and L- glutamine plus a bunch of vit B's (B6, B1, B2).

  • Rosiesride
    Rosiesride Member Posts: 513
    edited August 2014

    I am finishing up rads boosts next week...I would like to start on supplements and vitamins to get things back on track...I was also told vit. E,c,a...to stay away from...I need to be told what to take!!  Think it's time to see nutritionist...Rosie

  • Amazonwarrior
    Amazonwarrior Member Posts: 485
    edited August 2014

    Rosies: My RO and MO both said the same thing that I could take pretty much any vit and supplements AFTER rads.

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited August 2014

    I waited until I'd been on arimidex for several weeks before I took anything more than my vitamin D.  I know this was being overcautious, but what the heck.  I and any little leftover cancer cells had done without the vitamins throughout rads, so why not wait until the anti-hormal stuff had had time to establish their cancer-hostile environment.

  • Deblc
    Deblc Member Posts: 479
    edited August 2014

    Amazon, I am so tired of all my doctors telling me that side effects are NOT side effects. During chemo, it was the same thing, and when I went on the boards, I see other women having the same SE's.  I've been having a lot more pain after I started rads too. Similar to pain after surgery, under arm and scar area. Also having different, newer, chest pain. My RO first told me "don't worry about it" without any explanation, but when I persisted he said it could be from inflammation or rib pain as rads can affect the ribs. However no explanation as to the chest pain. I am also on herceptin which can affect the heart, so don't know if that's the cause. So tired of it all !  By the way I read that the sensation of something stuck in your throat while swallowing CAN be a se of both chemo and rads. I actually experienced that before cancer treatment, and it was diagnosed as acid reflux, but it was definitely exacerbated by the chemo/rads and I am still having it. I find that Prilosec helps with that.

  • Amazonwarrior
    Amazonwarrior Member Posts: 485
    edited August 2014

    Deblc: I really HATE to be one of the rare cases. I am slowly improving though and I take it as a good sign. The foreign object sensation is better now and only comes back if I somehow overdo it physically. I have noticed that my chest pain is there only when I am moving around. Perhaps a cracked bone? I suggested that to my RO, but his response was more testing which I am not ready to do at this point because the outcome would NOT change the management of this symptom. In other words they would not put me a cast, they would only give me painkillers which I have tons of already. 

  • Deblc
    Deblc Member Posts: 479
    edited August 2014

    Glad to hear you're slowly getting better. They don't tell us about the long road to  recovery after treatment is done, do they? Probably afraid we wouldn't do it, if we knew !  A friend told me that, for her, it took at least two years for fatigue to go away after rads, sigh.

  • Amazonwarrior
    Amazonwarrior Member Posts: 485
    edited August 2014

    deblc: I was told that the timeline for recovery after rads was 3-6 months. Well it may even take years to feel back to normal. 

    My energy fluctuates rapidly through out the days. It's unpredictability is driving me bananas!

  • Deblc
    Deblc Member Posts: 479
    edited August 2014

    Amazon, the fatigue seems to be getting worse, not better, as time goes on. As well as shortness of breath. As long as it's side effects and not major problem, I won't complain ! 

  • MilesToGo1953
    MilesToGo1953 Member Posts: 14
    edited September 2014

    I will have  my last radiation treatment on 8/25/2014.  My doctor was concerned I would have a hard time with the radiation because my skin tone is very fair.  While I've had some soreness and itchiness it hasn't, so far, been terrible.  I haven't had any blistering although I am starting to peel in places.  I used Calendula cream (Boiron available through Amazon) from my first treatment and I still use it now as well as Hydrogel.  At one point, in the middle I had a problem with clothes rubbing against my skin and used (with my doctor's approval) cornstarch to reduce the rubbing.  The cornstarch worked really well and did a great job of reducing the chafing.  I did start to have some fatigue at about the 4 weeks mark an had to cancel my Pilates sessions, but I hope to start them up again soon.  I find the fatigue fluctuates.  One day I'll be fine and the next I feel exhausted..it also seems to fluctuate during the day too, but it is far from debilitating.  Overall, I have to say the radiation treatments have been far less painful than I thought they would be.  I know there's a possibility that my skin may still have an adverse reaction post-radiation, but I hoping not!

    Update 9/13/2014 - The first two weeks after I finished radiation where not so great.  The skin peeled down to raw skin which bled at any touch.  Oddly, as long as my breast didn't get bumped or brushed I wasn't in pain.  I keep using good wound care procedures, keeping the area clean, putting on wound care lotion and covering the area with a sterile pad (due to the bleeding).  Now 3 weeks post-radiation I'm all healed! 

  • Sopravvissuta818
    Sopravvissuta818 Member Posts: 11
    edited December 2014

    Amazonwarrior, you hit the shovel on the chest! I also feel like I've been plowed into by a pro football players shoulder on my left breast. I see my SO this Thursday and plan to ask her. It hurts to barely touch and I just finished rads last week. I'm resting and not overdoing it, and I haven't started my tamoxifen so it has to be residual from surgery and rads.

  • Amazonwarrior
    Amazonwarrior Member Posts: 485
    edited January 2015

    Well, here I am about 6 months after rads and still experiencing SE of the irradiated area (chest, sternum, shoulder, neck), but also a head pain.

    So here is a little summary of the SE to this day:

    My chest and shoulder feels like an internal carpet burn when I get tired.

    My sternum and ribs feel bruised up and sensitive to touch- actually it seems that there are certain hot spots that are worse than the rest. I have to always watch out what I do not to irritate it. When I do, however, then I get the foreign sensation feeling when swallowing and occasionally even a light dry cough.

    My muscles and tendons feel tighter, the muscles feeling shaky at times.

    My connective tissue feels rougher and grainier.

    My skin still has a slight brownish tan.

    My shoulder feels pinched on occasion, making a comfortable position in bed a challenge.

    My neck / throat gets irritated easily when speaking for a while or when speaking up. The hoarseness has subsided.

    My arm- the tightness extends all the way down to my hand and fingers.

    My head feels an array of weird sensations sitting at the top of my head (e.g., burning, pins and needles, raw, sharp or dull, and lately feeling like I smeared cayenne pepper on it or a prickly heat after touching a stinging nettle) , or a result of some sort of neuropathy that worsens with an increased activity.

    I had a brain and C-spine MRI's that turned out normal, thank God.

    Tamoxifen seems to worsen all of the symptoms, so I am struggling to keep taking it. ( I take it for a while for a couple of weeks, then I hit the wall with the increased pain at which point I stop to keep myself sane and able to function to a certain extent.

    Soprav: How are you feeling?

    How's everyone else doing? Pls., keep posting. :-)

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited December 2014

    Just did a search on this site about shoulder pain post rads and found this thread...

    My shoulder on my rads side is really really bothering me! I can't tell if it the muscle or the bone itself, maybe both. The pain is much worse at night when I try to lay down, I think it is because of trying to lay on my side. The only comfortable position is to lay on my back, but I find it very hard to fall asleep that way. It also hurts during the day if I am working a lot on the computer or doing much of anything to be honest.

    My gut tells me this is from rads...but what do I know right? I just feel so tight on this side. I saw a PS once and got some exercises from her. I'm probably needing to go back PS for more work. Tylenol, advil don't help a lot. I have muscle relaxers that do really do much either....bleh!

    Sometimes it goes up into my neck too.

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