Starting Chemo in April 2014

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  • EverForward
    EverForward Member Posts: 242
    edited July 2014

    Well it's day 5 after chemo and the "not constipated anymore" portion of the program has started, right on schedule. Many of you have talked about the worsening fatigue and I'm right there with you. Even on my "good" days when I walk up 2 flights of stairs to my office, there should be a cheering crowd and a "finish line" ribbon at the top because I feel like I just ran a marathon. I hate feeling so weak and fragile, like I'll never feel strong again. Even when I finish chemo (last round Aug 6), I still have the mastectomy to deal with, so I know it will be a long time before I'm back to normal. I just want to crawl into bed and stay asleep until this is over. On the positive side, my sister is in town and she made me chocolate chip cookies.

    Oh, and with the sparse white fuzz that's growing longer on my head, I no longer look like a baby chick, but now I'm starting to look like a mad scientist. 

  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited July 2014

    good morning all

    I meet with my onc tomorrow to discuss balance of my chemo and then wed back in the chair at 10am. 2 rounds left but if I have to go weekly I imagine that would be six weeks of infusions. Ugh!

    This past weekend I was fortunate enough to meet my idol Scott weiland - Scott used to sing with the stone temple pilots and is now touring solo. I got up on stage to sing with him and he later introduced me to his drummer mike - a cancer survivor!!

    Hot Scott made my night! He's the best and I'll never forget how he made me forget all about cancer and rocked my world as he's done several times in the past. 😊❤️

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  • Ddkath70
    Ddkath70 Member Posts: 129
    edited July 2014

    Go Footballnut!!!! You are amazing!!!! you should be floating and walking on air today :)

  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited July 2014

    ddkath I am in heaven!!!  

  • Ddkath70
    Ddkath70 Member Posts: 129
    edited July 2014

    how do you even start to get on stage with him? I mean, how do you even get his attention? LOL.  If I were ever able to get on stage with Marcus Mumford I think I would pass out and freeze up in the state of shock. LOL>

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited July 2014

    Rock on, FBN!!!

  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited July 2014

    ddkath I had a banner printed several years ago that says "Scott pick me for dead and bloated". Best $100 I ever spent. I've been fortunate enough to get up with him in jones beach ny, Hamilton Ontario and now toronto. 

    The banner plus the red fedora is what does it. He has his own clothing line as well and I've worn that too. 

    I don't think that I could do it anymore. Each time he's been so gracious!

    Because of him we were guests of the band after the show on Saturday. He has a very kind side to him that I'll never forget!

  • lena-lou
    lena-lou Member Posts: 10
    edited July 2014

    Hi all,

    Sorry for being MIA.  I have been in bed most of the time with these stupid chills and fevers.  They are wearing me down.  I did call last time I posted and they took bloodwork again but still didn't find any cause for the fevers.  I went in on Thursday for my chemo appointment and my temp was 101.5.  My nurse said the dr. wouldn't give me chemo and that my red blood count was "in transfusion territory," but yes, he did go ahead and give me chemo.  And said, "Eh, not yet" on a transfusion.  The dexomethosone (SP?) -- the steroid, I mean -- kept my fever down for about 24 hours but Friday night it came blazing back at 102.  

    Got out of bed on Sat. to take my daughter to a birthday pool party since my husband had to take the other two to their activities.  The host was nice and let me recline on a a pool chair in the shade much of the time.  She has been through chemo herself, turns out.  And other than that I have been in bed.  

    I am worried about my poor husband.  He is doing so much work around the house -- basically all of it.

    Today I came into the office.  Had a chill on the way and I ran the heater and waited in the parking lot til I wasn't shivering and now I am here sweating.  My poor colleagues, LOL.  Not sure how long I will last today as I feel completely wiped out.  Walking across the parking lot had me panting.

    jbokland, no, I am not doing icing.  My nurse said they don't believe it usually works, though I am welcome to try it.  I had such a chill last time I was there, there was no way I was putting any body part on ice! :-)   Did you do it and do you think it helps?

  • Swissmiss
    Swissmiss Member Posts: 111
    edited July 2014

    Hello All!  I've been MIA since my last chemo on Wednesday, and oh my goodness I have missed a lot!  

    Congrats Cold on  your last chemo...I love the sign your little guy made!  Clarrn...I am sorry for all the trouble you've been experiencing...but I love your potty chair :)  We are here are all here for you, whether it's laughing or crying!  FBN...omg, you are on stage...how cool is that?!  I know I'm not addressing everyone, but please know I'm thinking of each and every one of you.

    My last chemo Dark Place was like all the others...awful.  Taxol has a way of making every single joint in my body scream...even my toes hurt.  I have been on Advil and Norco continuously since Friday night, but I'm hoping I can just use Advil tonight.  I was nervous about my side effects this weekend because for the first time I did NOT get a neulasta shot.  I ended up having the exact side effects as always, so apparently the neulasta side effects were completely taken care of with the daily Claritin I take.  But, as always, Monday morning I'm feeling pretty good.  I have to admit, though, that the last chemo was a bit of a let down.  I think I had this wild dream of my hair growing in over the weekend and my oncologist calling to say I didn't need radiation afterall :)  Those things didn't happen, but I am grateful I will never again experience that Dark Place.

    I made an appointment with my radiation oncologist.  He's on vacation for more than two weeks!  I can't even get in to see him until the first week of August, so I have a feeling I won't actually get my treatment started for several more weeks to come.  I'm kind of bummed, as I assumed I'd start treatment right away.  Same with my port removal.  My surgeon is on leave for three weeks, so unless I want to recruit a new surgeon, I have to wait until she's available sometime in August.  I just want this all to be done sooner, rather than later, and no matter what I do I'm always feeling like I'm being put on the back burner.  

    I hope you all are having a better day today.  Thank you for being here for me.  Can you send some "grow hair fast" vibes my way?  

    xoxo

  • Laurais50
    Laurais50 Member Posts: 71
    edited July 2014


    Hello all I was lurking here I'm from the June chemo. I just wanted to congrat all and to let Timbuktu know I have the same problem.

    I have o run to the bathroom sometimes. Never had that problem before chemo. Oh well anoher SE I guess.

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited July 2014

    So glad you are through the last dark place SwissMiss... * fast growing hair vibes*

    Still here in hospital, more IV attempts.... might get a port with 5 weekd left of chemo? 

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited July 2014

    just want to clarify the fast hair growth for only our heads please ;)

  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited July 2014

    wondering why some are on taxol vs taxotere. 

    I am also nervous about what is ahead. Tamoxifen. I haven't heard anything good about it from many women. Side effects galore. Ugh!!

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited July 2014

    Footballnut - I had very few side effects with Tamoxifin.  Some joint pain and my hair was "a little" thinner.  No weight gain, no stomach or intestinal problems.  I know it is different for everyone but it may be fine for you.


     

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited July 2014

    Ugh - getting ready for the chair tomorrow for #5 - and taking those ducking steriods.  Have I mentioned how much I hate the steriods??  Don't know if I will really be doing #5 or #6 - will all depend on my liver enzymes, which have been climbing since the first treatment.  If they have climbed further I think I will stop chemo and continue with the herceptin only.  As of my last treatment they were already in the range that the manufacturer of taxotere recommends stopping so I will not go any further if they have increased.  My MO did reduce the dose to see if that helped.  Not sure what kind of a discussion I will have with him if I want to stop and he doesn't want me to but I have to make the best decision for me.  I still feel like I am in the throws of the bad SE days from #4 - never really recovered from that treatment - no energy at all, and all the typical SE's seem to be hanging on in different levels of bad.  Hope everyone is having minimal SE's and those that are having them - hope you are coming out of the dark dementor occupied land.  CONGRATS to all that are finished!!

  • Swissmiss
    Swissmiss Member Posts: 111
    edited July 2014

    clarrn...a port with only five weeks to go might sound bad, but just think after you have it that is five less times they need to look for a vein.  I had mine put in under general anesthesia, so I had to have an IV then, but I am thankful I had it.  Wishing you all the best. And thank you for the "grow hair (but only head hair) fast" vibes :)

    FBN...I've often wondered why we all have different treatments drugs and doses...I had dense dose Taxol, and frankly, I'm a little envious of those who grew hair on the weekly dose.  Besides that, I wonder why such differences when some of us have similar diagnoses? 

    I am five days PFC and I'm already watching my hair (not) grow. Seriously, I need to focus on other things! But I got a little sad yesterday when I read the Hair thread and see that gals are about six months PFC before they stop wearing hats and scarves.  I have a trip planned for November, and I'm bound to still be a baldie even then :(

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited July 2014

    My MO  gave me some good news.: he said tamoxifen can increase your libido!!!

  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited July 2014

    too funny jbokland. I've had no libido since finding the damn lump!!  

  • mikishelley
    mikishelley Member Posts: 83
    edited July 2014

    Hello Ladies

    I have been following the group from my email, but I have not posted in a while. I think of you ladies all the time, and I still am laughing and crying with you all.

    I am now seven weeks post chemo and started Tamoxifen last week. I do not know where to start.

    Football Amazing I am jealous.

    A small note about ports - I had my port removed with my implant surgery. Chemo kills our veins. Please seriously consider leaving your ports in. The morning of my surgery the first nurse could not get my IV started. The second couldn't either. The anesthesiologist couldn't get it. They brought in a doppler and then an ultra sound machine. After six attempt the second anesthesiologist finally got it. Last week I was really sick and went to my infusion center to get fluids and they hunted down "the best nurse" to put my IV in. She worked in the building but not in the same center. It took her three times. This one little point was never told to me. So, I wanted to let you all know before you rush to remove your port. I easily made the decision to have it removed. I wish I had not. Ask your nurses!

    Neuropathy has slowly diminished but I have very weak muscles and can not do much so I am starting physical therapy soon.

    Fatigue - still here! I spoke with a thirteen month survivor and she told me it takes a good six months minimum to start to  let up. Not happy about that.

    Tamoxifen- My hot flashes are becoming less frequent, but they are horrible when I get them. I work at a laboratory supply company, and one thing I do is research the researchers. Many women stop taking Tamoxifen because of the side effects. I am already very moody. This fact has prompted a search for an alternative. I along with many of you ladies have to take tamoxifen and I am not happy about it either. I will take it as long as possible and I hope I make it through the whole five years.

    I remind myself that this is a battle and I have to keep fighting! All Good days are in the future for us all!

  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited July 2014


    FBN - What an awesome experience!!!!   I'd still be floating on Cloud 9!!

    To all you ladies with the SEs - you are in my daily thoughts & prayers for improvement.  Hang in there.

    The port is a real blessing for chemo, but I can't wait to have mine out.  It doesn't hurt when I sleep at night as it did for the first few months (Ugh!) but it's a daily reminder of the chemo and my MO's office won't use it for regular blood work because port can only be accessed by an onc nurse.  Plus, if it's not used regularly, you have to go in periodically to have it flushed.  Who knows what the future holds....if it has to be put back down the road so be it, but every time I look at it, it screams the big C to me, so I want it gone.

    I've been doing the icing for Taxol and with only one more to go, no signs of neuropathy so far.  My MO is a big believer in icing and will soon start a clinical trial for it.  However, neuropathy can rear its ugly head months post chemo, so not patting myself on the back. 

     

  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited July 2014

    after my horrid first round with taxotere and herceptin 3 weeks ago I have slight numbness and tingling in my left leg and foot. Mostly in my foot and calf but seems to be creeping up my leg

    Having said that before my treatment I would sometimes experience similar sensations if I didn't work our regularly. So maybe it's targeting weaker areas 

    I too have a port. Mine is a paediatric port because my right side is so small. I can't wait to have it out but will be on herceptin until next July and then suspect that it will have to stay in 2 years post diagnosis "just incase". Sucks!!

  • MommyQ
    MommyQ Member Posts: 117
    edited July 2014

    Footballnut: That's so awesome that Scott pulled you up on stage and let you go backstage. That's a special night you won't forget. :)  Re: Tamoxifen, I'm going to be on it for 10 years and am nervous about it, too. Not so much the common side effects but the rare super scary ones (like blot clots and cancer of the uterine lining). Hopefully, they truly are rare.

    brigadoonbenson: I'm happy to hear you had very few SEs from the Tamoxifen. Maybe there's hope for us all!

    linda505"ducking" steroids...LOL. I get to start those tomorrow, woo hoo! :P  I hope your liver enzymes are ok tomorrow. But if they aren't, remember...you are in charge of your treatment. Your MO is there to provide advice/recommendations, but in the end, if you don't want to go on with any more treatments, it's really your choice. Re: SEs, I too can't seem to kick the fatigue for round #4. I go in for #5 Wed and I don't feel fully recovered yet. I'm SOOO looking forward to being done with chemo!

    mikishelley: Thanks for the report "from the other side." It's good to have an idea of what's to come, good or bad. Sorry to hear of the problems you've had with IVs in your veins. So, if you had your port still, would they have been able to use it during your exchange surgery? I'm just curious, since only certain nurses are allowed to access them. I just don't know how available these special nurses are for non-chemo related events.

    MomMom: I can't wait to get my port out either. I asked my MO about "maintenance" for a port left in after chemo. She said although the official guideline is flushing it once a month, it really only needs to be flushed about once every 3 months. She had one patient who went several years before getting it flushed and it was fine...although my MO wouldn't recommend that! :)

    For those who have finished chemo, CONGRATS!!! For the rest of us, hang in there! We will get through this, one day at a time!

  • mmtagirl
    mmtagirl Member Posts: 509
    edited July 2014

    footballnut, I want to be in your fan club! You are fearless and never forget that. I love how you are relentless with your passions.  A true inspiration. You make me smile.

    Lots of us are going through the weekly chemo and som like you and me didn't have it on our radar when we started chemo.  Like everything else, you will get through it. The harder part for me is not feeling like a get a break from chemo girl. But, taxol  weekly is soooo much easier than dd taxotere. Yuck!  Best f luck with your on and infusion Wednesday. I hit the chair tomorrow and afterward I can celebrate only 9 left!

    I hop

  • mikishelley
    mikishelley Member Posts: 83
    edited July 2014

    MommyQ- Yes they could have used my port for the surgery. It is true that nurses have to be trained for accessing a port, but more training is being done.

  • MommyQ
    MommyQ Member Posts: 117
    edited July 2014

    mikishelley: That's good to hear. I'll have to think about keeping mine a bit longer then. Thanks for the advice. I don't have my exchange surgery until Spring 2015, due to radiation following chemo, and a 6 month wait period between finishing rads and the exchange surgery, to allow all the skin/tissue to settle-out/heal to a steady state. So, I'd have to keep mine in for at least 8 months after my final chemo.

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited July 2014

    my MO instructed me to take a baby aspirin with the tamoxifen. 

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited July 2014

    Super jealous tonight of all those done chemo! 

    Feeling a bit down today.  I am still in hospital and will be here until at least Friday :(   Another 6 IV attempts today.. no veins left so PICC with daily blood thinner injections.   Ultrasound of my left boob reveals a seroma but no abcess. (Could be better but could be worse too) And it sounds like my next TWO weeks of chemo are going to be postponed or canceled... I miss my husband, my daughter, and my bed.   I see them for a couple hours but it's not the same.

    *sigh*  I know this is temporary, I just hate anything messing with my plans, even when it's my own body.  Traitor.

    Tomorrow will be better, right? 

  • Blueberry4
    Blueberry4 Member Posts: 98
    edited July 2014

    Clarrn, it will get better, one day, one step at a time.  I'm so sorry things are so sucky for you.  Hugs to you and everyone who needs them.

    I am so happy for those done with chemo.  You did it! You rock! You win! Yay! I have to admit I am a bit jealous too, but in a good positive, motivating way.  I am starting taxol tomorrow and am pretty nervous.  I'm not yet fully recovered from AC number 4, and I just don't want to go back to the chair.  Also, I developed this weird rash that my nurse told me could be an autoimmune disorder.  What!?  I don't want an autoimmune disorder.  I didn't order this. Take it back! We'll see what the doc says tomorrow.  

    I'm glad to hear taxol has been easier for you, Mmtagirl. Hopefully, it won't send me to the dark place, and I will be able to visit here more regularly and keep up.  I think of you all so often and am wishing you well.

  • EverForward
    EverForward Member Posts: 242
    edited July 2014

    Clarn, so sorry! That just sucks. Sucky sucky sucky. If this is the low point, then things can only get better. Gentle hugs.

    I've decided to stay home from work today. Hopefully I can persuade my well-meaning sister to go do touristy things so I can spend the day on the couch in a vegetative state and maybe have a meltdown. I haven't had one so far this round.

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited July 2014

    The whole thing sucks, beginning to end, but so sorry for the complications

    Cold helped me make my final decision.  That reaction to the last infusion of carboplatin sounded awful.  So at my infusion yesterday I asked the nurse about it.  She confirmed it which confirmed my decision to stop at 5.  I also have no veins left and I'm not getting a port for one more infusion.  So I guess I'm done and even though the dark place has not quite descended, I hope I can get through it more easily because it's the last one.

    I had a seroma too but my dr drained i several times and it didn't get infected.  What a bummer to be in the hospital!  I really feel for you.  But it will pass, hard as that is to believe.  I hope you can find some diversion and some comfort in that you're being well cared for.

    My heart goes out to you.

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