Just been diagnosed with advanced, high grade DCIS, approx 3.5cm
I am 46, single mum, type 1 diabetes.
I found what felt like a big lump, a month after a clear mammogram. The lump showed in a scan. the radiologist explained that I have dense glandular tissue which shows up white on a mammogram, the same colour as a lump, so lump cannot be seen (have had another clear mammogram). Next, I had a needle biopsy, that showed ATP. Next was a surgical biopsy for a bigger (30grams) sample, just in case it's worse. Now I have high grade DCIS, estimated to be 3.5cm. I am having an MRI next week, then seeing my BS on 28 July. The wait is getting to me.
I like my BS. He said at the moment either a lumpectomy or a mastectomy are realistic. A lumpectomy is likely to be disfiguring as I have small breasts. I would prefer a mastectomy as then I feel the issue is gone, and hopefully is less likely to come back. But, partly because I feel my breasts are not reliable and partly because symmetry is important to me - I would like a double mastectomy. My BS says he will do that if it's what I want but it is over treatment for DCIS, and a far bigger operation than a single mastectomy.
I asked if I could have the mastectomy in the December school hols (7week hols). My BS said I could wait 2 months but not 6 months, my DCIS is high grade and very advanced. Another reason the wait is getting to me.
I have read DCIS is usually found on mammogram as it's usually too small to find. Mine was a pretty big easy to find lump, this concerns me, and is more scary being high grade DCIS too.
I would also like genetic testing. My Mum had BC, mastectomy and chemo, she had had a hysterectomy yrs before BC ( due to other issues, not cancer ). My gran died from cancer but it was everywhere, too advanced to see where it started. My BS says this is not a strong enough family history. I will ask again, as it is my only family history. I have no sisters or aunts. Surely that is reasonable?
I am a single mum with 2 wonderful daughters (8 & 10 yrs old). I would rather be over cautious and be here for them. I wasn't going to bother with a reconstruction but my BS is happy to put implants in at time of mastectomy so am now considering that.
Am I over reacting? At the moment I don't feel I am. If I can, I am pretty sure I would like a double mastectomy and double reconstruction, from what I've read, it seems the 'safest' route.
I would love to read your experience and thoughts. Thanks for reading this.
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Hi Ali,
Generally DCIS is treated with lumpectomy, but plenty of women have opted for mastectomy for various reasons. While mastectomy is not an easy surgery, it may give you more peace of mind. The results of having either a lumpectomy or a mastectomy are virtually the same in terms of survival rates. Mastectomy may or may not get you out of having radiation though which can be a plus for some people. Mastectomy of your other breast is done often enough as well.
I opted for lumpectomy for myself and have small breasts as well and I am fine with the cosmetic results even if they don't look too pretty and are a little lopsided. I felt mastectomy was not something I wanted to stage 0 breast cancer and I was willing to have the radiation and take an AI due to my ER+ BC. So, with that being said, you should make your own decisions based on what you can live with. Maybe go on some of the threads about mastectomy to weigh your feelings. Some women deeply regret having them and others are absolutely thrilled that they did. It is a VERY personal decision.
So sorry you find yourself having to make this decision but you will be in my thoughts and best to you whatever you decide to do. Hugs!
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I was worried that a double mastectomy would be overtreatment for my DCIS. I got 3 opinions and all of them were to undergo the BMX. I really struggled with this decision. The DCIS was detected on my first mammogram when I turned 40 and they told me that it was very difficult to see what was going on due to extremely dense breast tissue. Even the MRI didn't help them see. Besides issues of symmetry and the need to avoid radiation (as a 3 year melanoma survivor I am not a candidate for radiation tx) the BMX was recommended because the healthy breast was so dense they couldn't be sure there wasn't or wouldn't be cancer in there without being detected until it was more extensive. Plus there were calcification already started there too. I was told I probably would need biopsies/MRIs every year along with my mammogram. But I still couldn't believe I was going to agree to such major surgery for a stage 0 cancer! It's a tough decision, very personal. I agree with april485, take some time, read about others' experiences. Once you decide and go through with whatever you do, try to be kind to yourself and don't second guess. Remind yourself that you made the best decision you could with the information you had.
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Ali, sorry you find yourself here, but it's a great place to get information. I didn't find this place until after my decisions were made and completed. I too was/am small chested, and I was told that I needed a mastectomy because tumor was 2.9 cm in a small breast. No one even mentioned the possibility of removing the other breast. I was a stage 2, due to size of tumor, but grade 1 as far as aggressiveness of tumor. I had my lump for years, 28 to be exact, and was always told the lump was a cyst. It probably was for a long time, but cancer grew in/around it eventually. I chose not to have recon. I knew too many people that did and regretted it. My one friend said the recon was much worse than the mastectomies. I've heard it's much more painful to do recon on small breasted woman, as there's not as much tissue to work with. I don't have to use any sort of prosthesis, just wear the same padded bras and swimsuits I did before surgery. I hope this isn't TMI, but I was glad to keep one breast for sensation/intimacy. Another big reason I didn't choose recon. Just my choice. Of course had there been anything remotely suspicious in my good breast, I wouldn't have hesitated having it removed. Just giving you my situation and thoughts. Everyone chooses their own path and what's best for them, and reading all the differing opinions will hopefully help you in your decisions. Good luck and I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Kim
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HI here, sorry you are here. I am just a month out from my surgery. I am also only 41 (diagnosed in April at 40, following a reduction) and a single mom of 5. Upon complete imaging they did find some more in my other breast, but I had been mastectomy from the get go, so that just confirmed my decision that was right for me. After final pathology it turned out to be LCIS, so that just confirmed for me that it was right for me. My family history dies not qualifiy moe for BRCA testing, but my aunt, grandma and her 2 sister, plus their mom and her sisters, 9 in total back 4 generations, so history enough for me.
I did not want to live feeling like i Was looking over my shoulder every 6 months or year for testing. I would have needed radiation following lumpectomy. Etc. Like others have said, it is highly personal at this stage for each of us. I think the good thing (if it is one) with DCIS, that it gives us choices. Get a second opinion. I had high grade 3, widespread DCIS, so my BS felt mastectomy was better for me. Ask again.
Also, if you want, look at reconstruction, or ask about it. I had reconstruction with my stomach fat (DIEP) and it was nice to come out with boobs as well. THere is a whole forum on it here. If you want look there for information. It is a long surgery and recovery, but it's once and done.
I will have chime in later as I am heading out for lunch, but sorry you are going through this..
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Ali111, we're so glad you have all these sisters providing you with their experiences as being able to decide upon basic options before sitting in with BS is a big thing as knowledge is power and there is a wealth of knowledge on BCO.
Waiting for results is a very stressful time
and you'll get sympathy from others on this forum as they've been through the
waiting too. It is not an easy time at all. Posts are very slow due to
holidays, but someone will respond to you.If it is DCIS, it is not
invasive and should be able to be removed without problems. Read about people's
experiences with DCIS here DCIS (Ductal Carcinoma In Situ).There are also lots of forums discussing UMx versus MBx and to reconstruct or not. Read lots to help make YOUR best choice in YOUR case as it is a major decision and don't let your surgeon talk you into recon if you really don't want it.
We wish you all the best
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Hi, I am another who was Dx with high grade DCIS. I am considerably older than you, but just wanted to illustrate that there are many options. I don't mean to confuse the issue for you, just to show that what suits one, will not suit another and you'll lnow what feels right for you.
I opted for a Umx and haven't regretted keeping my other breast. I chose not to reconstruct and haven't regretted that either. I do have to wear a prosthesis most of the time, because I am a "D" on the other side, but that's not an issue either.
I thought the close watch was going to get me, but the reality has been, 18 months down the track, that I get a little anxious right before my appointment and that's about it.
I wish you all the best and the clarity to make the decision which will be best for you and your family!
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Hi ladies, thank you for your replies, I appreciate hearing your stories.
One of the reasons I am wanting to be quite aggressive with this is because I am diabetic (insulin dependant), which I'm not sure, but I think can make chemo difficult. I need to check that out properly, but I'm scared that if I don't get it all now then I might have problems later.
I am undecided about having a reconstruction, as I have read some women are not happy with them. I went to my local breast cancer society yesterday. The lady I spoke to there said if she was me she would have the reconstruction. She said she thought I was too young not to.
When I thought I couldn't afford a reconstruction I talked myself round to feeling liberated - would never need to buy a bra again (money is tight) / would just b able to throw on a t-shirt and go for a run / I think I could get comfortable with being flat and maybe just using a filler for when I get dressed up to go out at night. I would probably hide myself in public changing rooms though, and my 10 yr old daughter is desperate for me to have a reconstruction. I don't want to traumatise her. Then my BS said that a reconstruction would be funded so I wouldn't need to worry about cost, just time off work to recover.
The main reason I wanted symmetry is because my mum has not worn a summer top or swimming costume since her mastectomy. She had a reconstruction eventually but has put on weight since and is very self conscious about two different sizes. She also says she always worries about getting cancer on the other side and would prefer she hadn't had to worry about that for the last 20 yrs.
I think I am starting to worry less about symmetry, starting to see there is a bigger picture and I'm pretty lucky. Whatever I am like afterwards is part of what makes me who I am. I just also wish I wasn't single. I wondered about going flat and then meeting a guy. That could be horrendous for a man who hasn't been on this roller coaster ride with me.
I worry about my health and feel that if I had a BMX that could be one less thing to worry about. I got juvenile onset diabetes when I was 32, and now this. I want to be healthy but do not trust my body at the moment.
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Ali111, Before I knew it was necessary to do both sides for me, and even then it wasn't 100%, but was recommended by my BS, I Was concerned about being lopsided as well. I am in Cananada, so all my surgeries were funded by our healthcare system. It really is a highly personal decision, and everyone has to make the decision that is right for them. Talk with your PS and BS, and go from there! I know I was so overwhelmed with information which was good and bad, but it helped me make a decision, even if at times I couldn't process through all the information!
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Hi, it's sometimes a tough decision but it was not for me. I had an extremely low grade 7 mm tubular cancer in 2011, treated with a lumpectomy, in my right breast. This January a high grade 3.5 cm DCIS was detected in the left breast. I could have opted for a lumpectomy with radiation. No. I had them both removed and in the final pathology they found another 3.5 cm DCIS in my right breast that was not detected on mammogram, also high grade. Not sure if an MRI would have shown it. I opted for immediate reconstruction. I only wanted one surgery and luckily need no revisions. I am 65 and really it was not a difficult healing process for me at all. I had a TRAM. Everyone is different though and complications can occur with any surgery. I think if one has a mammogram detected DCIS in one breast, it is a good idea to test both breasts as fully as possible before proceeding with only a lumpectomy or single mastectomy. Obviously I made the right decision for me but it came more from the gut than the brain, to be honest. I had simply HAD IT.
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Thank u. The more I read the more I want to go with my gut instinct and have a BMX. I have a hard time deciding whether to go flat or have a reconstruction.
The reconstruction sounds like a lot more work (appointments - I'm a single working mum). But also being single I could b less confident about meeting a man some day, if I went flat. I am leaning towards having a reconstruction now though, I think I am realistic with my expectations so hopefully I would b happy with it.
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