Starting Chemo in April 2014

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  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited July 2014

    seeing my onc tomorrow at 8:15am. Today while I still have pain it is a bit better. I haven't taken any pain pills since 11:30 last night. Tummy is still loose

    I ate a lot of jello, an English muffin and a banana  so far today. Trying to drink g2 and sucking on ice chips

    Can't wait to see my onc

    I am not a religious person but feel blessed that I have all of you with me

    I too have been crying and feeling sorry for myself. Last night I told my hubby that I just wanted to die

    Even now the pain is bad but I'm just not taking anymore pills

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited July 2014

    football, ask your onc for another pain pill.  I am on norco.  I spoke to someone at the ACS, an onco nurse.

    She told me not to be afraid of the pain pills, I just have to get through this.  She said to ask for morphine if I needed it.

    I just got back from my internist and he gave me an ekg and an Holter monitor.  I'm really annoyed.  Fifteen minutes and he's gone.  I've got a complicated case here and 15 minutes is not a long time.  Are there any caring drs out there anymore?

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited July 2014

    Timbuktu asks, "Are there any caring doctors?"

    I dunno - I'll ask my onc at my next appointment.  Of course, I will have to wait for her to get off her phone.  In the middle of me asking a question, she takes a phone call.  I was so ticked last time, I just walked out.  Now I have to call her to remind her to write the Arimidex prescription (or maybe not?)

    On the other had, took the pups in for ear checks, and the vet called two days later to,see how they were  doing ...

  • Swissmiss
    Swissmiss Member Posts: 111
    edited July 2014

    Cold...thanks for posting "Tight Pants," it made me smile :)  And yes, I'm also wearing very tight pants, and refuse to buy a bigger size. The thing is, I haven't gained weight, according to the scale.  But my puffiness is unmistakable...I can't even wear my wedding rings.  I feel very pudgy!

    Linda...I'm sorry you're feeling down.  I am getting more and more emotional myself.  I feel like I should be happy that I'm almost done with chemo, but for some reason I'm not.  I pray I can get the old me back when my treatment concludes.  But part of me wonders if worrying about mets or recurrence will keep me pinned down forever.

    I received disappointing news this afternoon. My MO feels I should keep my port in for the duration of radiation.  What? Why? I spoke to his nurse, and she said it is his preference, so I'll need to talk with him about it on Wednesday when I see him. My port is uncomfortable and I was SO looking forward to getting rid of it sooner rather than later.  If I can't get him on board with my thinking, I'll have the darn thing until at least the end of September :( Maybe it's not a big deal, but I feel removing it is a milestone, a sign this ordeal is ending.  Keeping it for 2-3 months longer than I anticipated makes me sad. 

    I'm getting frustrated also with all the medical bills pouring in lately.  Our insurance paid 80% of all my bills at first, but now pay 100% due to meeting our out-of-pocket max.  But we are still living under a mountain of medical bills.  We pay about $600-900 each month to doctor bills, and we haven't even made a dent in the stack...a few providers are threatening collections, even though we have been sending monthly payments. Cancer takes so much from us physically and emotionally, and now financially we are drained.  We are living paycheck to paycheck, cutting back on everything (which is so hard with three kids at home), and it's still not enough. I'm so worried our credit will be ruined...another gift from cancer. 

    Ugh. Sorry to be a downer.  But thank you for "listening." Hope you're all having a good day.

    xoxo

  • lilyrose53
    lilyrose53 Member Posts: 216
    edited July 2014

    Brigadoon - I get restless leg syndrome too.  It drives me nuts!  I feel SO sleepy but my legs wake me every few minutes, so I don't feel rested.  Lucky for me it only lasts one day...so far.  The the steroids will kick in tonight and keep me up.  Sigh.

    I started growing fuzz on my head after A/C.  Since starting taxol, a few weeks ago, it is falling out again along with my eyebrows. I'm just hoping to look semi normal by Christmas.

    Linda - I'm sorry things are looking so dismal for you.  This is the place to come to vent.  I sure hope things turn around for you soon!

    Sharon -  Maybe we should go trick or treating as twins!  

    I am home from taxol #5.  Going to try and get some sleep.

    Wishing you all a better day!  Hugs, lilyrose

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited July 2014

    My internist said today "If you're getting side effects you should stop chemo."  HUH?

    I felt like telling him to look at this site.  What could he have meant?  Are there people on chemo WITHOUT side effects?

  • Swissmiss
    Swissmiss Member Posts: 111
    edited July 2014

    Timbuktu...was he being sarcastic?  I can't imagine what he would mean by saying that.  My old MO (who I dumped several weeks ago), was very disrespectful and would often say things that I would realize later were meant to make fun of my complaints regarding side effects.  I hope your internist can explain what he actually meant, because I cannot imagine he truly means for you to stop your treatment.  These doctors...I swear they could all use "a day in the life of a cancer patient" training session.  

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited July 2014

    Omg timbuktu - that is just crazy about what the internist said - ummmm - is there any chemo without SE's??  I don't think so - maybe some are minimal but I mean it is poison for crying out loud!!  Holy Moly... Some doctors just see patients as numbers - how many in and out in a day - I don't think they started like that but I have had too many like that in my life.  It is so disappointing.  I don't take that treatment anymore - I now speak up when I don't think they are giving me the appropriate time or attention.  Hope your heart is ok - I had to wear one of those monitors for a week a couple of years ago - drove me crazy.

    sharon - unbelievable and how rude - I really can't complain about my MO or his PA - they are actually both good about listening and spending a good amount of time with me.... and I LOVE my plastic surgeon - seeing him is like seeing a friend and I do feel he cares. 

    thanks for all your support - just such an emotional and physically draining journey we are on.  

  • jhodro
    jhodro Member Posts: 240
    edited July 2014

    Timbuktu: Omg..that is so frustrating. I think part of this site should have doc ratings. Like a Yelp or TripAdvisor for doctors. I can't believe how insensitive some of them can be. I have heard that comment from people I know - like "why do chemo if it does all this other stuff to you?"…bleh. Give me a break. Your response should have been "Thank God, you know of a miracle cure that doesn't involve poisoning myself to within an inch of my life! You must be a genius!!" Grrrrr!!

    Swissmiss: If it makes you feel any better, I have to keep my port in for the year of Herceptin. I tried to talk them into removing it right after chemo, but they don't think my veins will hold for all the H infusions every three weeks for a year. Boo. I hate my port too. It's right where my bra strap sits and it makes sleeping uncomfortable since I used to sleep on that side.

    On a positive note, I got a full night's sleep on a day of treatment and I might be able to pull that off again tonight! Yay me!! :)

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited July 2014

    the question about doctors who care I can share my onc with all of you. LOVE him. He listens, cares and is just a wonderful person. When I sent an email about a lump at 11:30 pm I had an appointment the next am at 10am and I was 5 years out from my last diagnosis. It makes me sad to hear when people have problems with their oncologist. :(

    Day after taxol #5 and I am surviving. My counts are starting to rebound a little which is a good sign. My one big toe is a bit of a mess still but I am feeling okay so far this week. I know that Thursday evening into Friday will be the worst for my neuropathy and my hips will hurt a little bit but by Saturday I will feel better and Sunday I will over do it. Lol.  This Tuesday will put me at the half way mark for taxol and 4 weeks out from my rads simulation which I am not happy about still. I need to make peace with the permanent blue tattoos that they will be using. :(. I don't want blue dots all over my body. Then I get a whole two week break after chemo and then rads start all while still getting herceptin and perjeta. Let me control my excitement. NOT!!

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  • Swissmiss
    Swissmiss Member Posts: 111
    edited July 2014

    I'm curious about the gals on Taxol who are seeing hair growth.  Are all of you doing weekly Taxol?  I'm doing dense dose, and I still am bald bald bald.  Or maybe my hair is so light that I can't see it? Who am I kidding...there's nothing there to see...LOL!  I'm looking forward to my last chemo next Wednesday, and the possibility of HAIR.  I've read Biotin is a good supplement to take to help strengthen hair and make it grow faster...is anyone already using this? 

  • lilyrose53
    lilyrose53 Member Posts: 216
    edited July 2014

    Swissmiss - My hair started to grow in shortly after I finished the A/C.  But after Taxol #4 it started falling out again.  What I have is very fine and fuzzy.  The onc nurses said it will likely all disappear again.  I am on weekly taxol, 7 more to go.  

    I wouldn't trade my MO for anyone.  He always listens, asks me if I have any problems or concerns and I never wait more than 10-15 minutes for my appointment.  But my BS is my favorite doc.  He is simply the most compassionate dr I have EVER dealt with.

    My MO wants me to keep my port also.  I'm not too worried about it.  I've gotten used to it and it no longer bothers me.  I developed phlebitis in my arm from just ONE infusion, so I need to use a port.  Don't really want to get it out and maybe go through getting a new one put in.

    Hugs,  lilyrose

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited July 2014

    Swissmiss I am on weekly taxol and it's there but fuzz still. It fell out after # 3 but is growing again. My toenails are also growing so I think they are related. 

  • Mompv
    Mompv Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2014

    To all struggling with finances...

    I found online the company who makes neulasta and they offer a co pay assistance.. Also contact Susan G Komen foundation they have resources for co pay help. 

    I am off to round 3 of AC. Sigh! Weary already of all this! Anyway, I hope you all have light SE days. 

  • mmtagirl
    mmtagirl Member Posts: 509
    edited July 2014

    My hair started growing after AC. Finished taxol #2 on Tuesday.  MO said I would get a head of fuzz but didn't expect more than that through taxol.  I think my brows and lashes are still thinning but hair on my legs and chin (ughhh) have sporadic growth.

    I never got a port because I was supposed to have 4 TC only.  Phlebitis struck during my last AC and with the switch to 12 taxol I have some concerns biput onco nurse and MO tell me to use warm compresses and ibuprofen if needed.  It's tolerable and at this point I don't want a port.  Anyone have a picc line? That was an option suggested by my BS but I wasn't keen on that, either.  Btw, I love all my docs- MO, BS, PS.  I guess I am fortunate.

  • EverForward
    EverForward Member Posts: 242
    edited July 2014

    It sounds like a lot of us are getting down as chemo takes its toll, even as the last infusion gets closer. I thought I would feel pretty good that I only have 2 more rounds of TCH (I'm not counting the year of Herceptin, which should be a piece of cake). But these days my good days don't feel as good. This is supposed to be a good week, but every day this week I've come home from work and just plopped on the couch. I'm not going out to eat or going for walks. (Ok, the hot, muggy DC weather might have something to do with that.) 

    Hugs to everyone suffering intense SEs right now. I know it feels like the light at the end of the tunnel is actually a train heading right at you, but there is an end to the tunnel, even if you can't see it yet.

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited July 2014

    Jaimieh - I can barely see the tattoos.  I found one the other day and it has been half a year since the procedure.  I thought it was a deer tick it was so tiny.

    Mompy - Most hospitals have  Patient Assistance Programs that have monies available too.

    mmtagirl - I hate the way my port sticks out and t still itches from time to time BUT I love the way it works for chemo.  Would not go back.

    I am so proud that I walked the dogs with my husband.  We live on a private road so I just went in my nightgown and sneakers.  SO FREEING!!

    Going to try it again this evening.  Trying to get rid of the RLS.  If I am not active during the day, I have it so bad at night that I end up having to take a few hits of marijuana.  Not that I mind that.  Just don't want to use it as a crutch.

    Had my 9th Taxol treatment yesterday.  Woke up at 3 and couldn't get back to sleep.  Cleaned the bathroom cabinets and drawers, wiped down the cobwebs.  (busy spiders and I haven't bought Oil of Spearment to wipe the window frames with) vacuumed the upstairs and did two loads of clothes before 6.  I may have to take a nap today!


     

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited July 2014

    brigadoon- I guess I am upset because they use a bright blue for ink. 

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited July 2014

    Jaimieh - I know, mine are too but they just look like a small vein that might be close to the surface, if you can find them at all.  Will they be where you can see them when you are clothed?  I can see that that might bother you. 

    I am nearly 70 and have wrinkles and sags that hide just about everything ;)

    I shared this on another board but you might enjoy it.  I am sure you are younger but the message is clear.  Love us the way we are. 

    http://www.metaspoon.com/older-ladies-donnalou/

    I hope you enjoy it.

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited July 2014

    I will have them where I am not clothed. :(. My friend went to the same rad doctor who is great but they look like huge pen marks. 

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited July 2014

    brig I love that song. It's so cute. :). Yeah I am still vain. I wasn't expecting them to be this large and the fact that my super clavicle is getting rads makes me blah about tattoos up there. I have two tattoos but they are strategically placed, and look real. :)

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited July 2014

    Jaimieh - Well, that does suck.  How much would it cost to have them removed?  That might even be covered by your insurance as a part of reconstruction.  Since you are Stage 1 it would be nice if you could come out of this with this whole ordeal not being a blip on the screen of your life.

     


     

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited July 2014

    this is my second blip and I was told that I am to never remove them. I have news you give me an ink blob and I will remove it. Lol. I guess it's another thing I need to get past but not happy about it. 

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited July 2014

    lilyrose - I haven't cut my hair yet because I still have even coverage but it is thin and I have to fix it just right to have coverage.  I even have to wear a turban in the kitchen to keep my hair from falling into the food I am preparing. 

    I am reminded of the Dr. Seuss - "Oh the places you'll go."  I have been places I never thought I would go but It is a hell of a ride. Good and bad.

  • Longislandl8y
    Longislandl8y Member Posts: 145
    edited July 2014

    A.  I DID drop my phone in the toilet this week...fortunately a clean toilet and grabbed it fast enough to avoid water damage.  Lol, I wish I could've seen my own face as I saw it laying there at the bottom of the bowl, hahaha

    B. Through no agreement from me, 3am and I have become fast friends.  I'm on day 9 post infusion and I think the steroids have now permanently made it impossible for me to sleep more than 4 hours a night, at least until I'm done and my system flushes entirely.

    C. I bought fat pants.  Denim Levis capris.  My advice, just get 'em. You can always use them later for fat days or yard work, whatever.  It feels good to wear something you're not bulging out of.  It was either that or steal my hubby's basketball shorts (which my daughter has beat me to).

    D. Saw breast surgeon yesterday.  Brought up my thoughts about foregoing round 6.  Didn't fly, lol.  Best she could offer was to postpone it if I needed more time to recover from round 5.  Hell no,  I said.  Bring it.  Ugh.

    Today I'm going to pretend I'm well.  I'm still feeling round 5 but I'm about 75% better.  Going to hang out with my mom and have lunch by her pool.  First summer thing I've done yet.  Have a great day, girls! xo

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited July 2014

    Jaimie - maybe you can get some of those false moles that people use to wear and turn them into beauty moles when you have dresses that expose them.  Robert Redford has several bumps on his face but he is still handsome.  I had a mole on my neck that I had removed  in my search for perfection when I was young.  I have always been sorry I did that.  It was very sweet.  You can probably get some stage makeup or there are several make-ups for scars, etc. and you will never see them. 

    I suppose they want them to stay in case you need rads again (Never I hope)  It would help them to know the exact location of the prior rads.

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited July 2014

    For comfy pants, you might want to check these out from llbean : llbeanperfectfitpants

    They come in several different styles, and even though they are stretch pants, they can be worn out to dinner and such when paired with a nice top.

  • lilyrose53
    lilyrose53 Member Posts: 216
    edited July 2014


    Sharon - Those are my favorite pants!  I have had them for years...used to wear them in the olden days when I had my period.  :)  Always called them my comfy pants.  Since chemo I bought several new pair and now wear them daily,  I love my jeans...but can't wear them as my waist has expanded beyond the comfort zone.  I hope when I'm feeling better I can walk off this new belly!

    Brigadoon - I love living out in the country.  I live on a dirt road and I do have neighbors, but we all live on several acres so we aren't that close to them.  I walk my dogs all the time in my nightgown!  lol  I used to see older women do that and thought they were crazy old ladies!  Now I am one of them.  Not giving a crap about what people think of me came with age.  :)  Good idea about the turban!

    Longisland - The steroids are a pain.  I was up half the night because of them and restless leg syndrome.  My MO gave me Ativan to take but I am saving that.  I don't want to use it as a crutch unless I really need it.

    Wishing you all a better day than yesterday!  Hugs, lilyrose

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited July 2014

    swissmiss, about a month ago my hair was so straggly I couldnt stand it so I shaved my head.

    Now a month later, it has grown about a half an inch, but not normally.  It is not thick.  

    to tell the truth it worries me that it can grow.  Anything that can grow seems to indicate that fast growing cells can survive this.  Damned if I do, damned if I don't.

    Yet, I can't help appreciating SOME hair growth

    Can't wait till this is OVER!

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited July 2014

    Timbuktu- There are numerous people on the boards who have had hair growth AND are NED.  Don't worry about that one.

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