Starting Chemo in April 2014

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  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited July 2014

    Timbuktu I hear u sister!  It was an hour of hell before done movement. My onc gave me this liquid called lactulose. Just took some. I hate taking anything for tummy issues because with me it most often goes straight to the big "d". Yahoo!

    Then I've been weepy and crying today because all of this pain. Just a down day for me. Hope to bounce back soon!

    I'm afraid to eat because if I do then I'll probably have to poop and will be right back to where I started!!

    Ugh!!

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited July 2014

    footballnut - feeling for you.  Is this a new side effect for you?  I can't recall for sure, but I'm thinking you just started the taxotere.  

    It's a good idea to note how you feel each day, because chances are, future tx will give you a similar effect with regards to C and D.

    After suffering with this (and it is painful) after my first tx, I started with ducolax and sennecot the day before chemo, and continued for 4-5 days after.  It helped a lot.  At first, I went too far and the fun D got me.  But, one dose of Imodium sorted me out.  I know it's different for everyone, but I do think we have to be willing to take more meds than ever - sucks, doesn't it?

    Hope you feel better soon.

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited July 2014

    I agree it is amazing how your physical condition so controls your mental place.  When i don't feel good everything is horrible!!  I hate the C days - they are the worst.  I am mentally in a better place today but Wednesday through yesterday I was in the midst of a dementors convention!!  ughh.   One day at a time - left foot, right foot,.... 

  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited July 2014

    sharonDe yup these SEs are new. The aches, pains and big c. I had d last time but I think that was due to my taking 2 senekots

    Man did that get me moving!

    This was my first round of taxotere and herceptin. Not fun at all!  I think that is rather have the nausea back!!!!

  • Tinkerbells
    Tinkerbells Member Posts: 211
    edited July 2014

    hip pain- glad to hear you guys have it too. I have been obsessing there is a bone met there. The joys of cancer paranoia! Today some nifty blisters appeared in the bottoms of my feet. And there is a hard nodule on my shoulder right off the collarbone. I think I have a great list for the onc visit Tuesday. If anyone has any questions they'd like me to add feel free! It's gonna be a long visit! Happy weekend to all.

  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited July 2014

    these aches are brutal!  Ugh!!

  • Tinkerbells
    Tinkerbells Member Posts: 211
    edited July 2014

    footballnut- I'll ask about your dark nail line! Why not?

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited July 2014

    Mscaruso - The hard nodule near your collar bone could be necrotic tissue that developed after your reconstruction.  I have one of those right near my sternum.  I didn't have the same type of surgery (I had a DIEP) but I understand that this is common in breast reconstruction.

    I am not saying you should not mention it but thought knowing about mine might make you breathe a little easier until you get it checked out.

    Lots of bone pain for me today too.  Not sure if it is the Zometa reaction, the front going through or the chemo.  Just know I have my IBP bottle handy.

  • Tinkerbells
    Tinkerbells Member Posts: 211
    edited July 2014

    brigadoon- thank you- it is a relief to know that people here understand the fear of every lump and bump we encounter. This is our new normal. Hoping yor bone pain eases up and you can get some rest!

    Sandra

  • ColdInCanada
    ColdInCanada Member Posts: 95
    edited July 2014

    Happy Belated 4th of July to all the American Warriors! :)

    Sunshine here! Lots and lots of SUNSHINE! I am LOVING this - sitting on the deck, under a sunshade of course, enjoying the WARM. I totally feel like a WINNER, because Cancer did NOT steal my Summer JOY. :)

    lena-lou - my "babies" are ages 8 and 11. They'll always be babies in my heart. :)

    Wendy - Welcome to this amazing group of Ladies. :)

    footballnut - My tummy troubles with Taxotere ALWAYS follow the same pattern - The Big C for the first 5 days, followed by The Big D for Days 6 - 8. It doesn't really matter if I consume copious amounts of fibre and drink Senekot tea or do nothing, it's ALWAYS the same. By Day 9, everything is back to normal. After the first couple of rounds, I started taking Imodium (with my MO's approval) at the the first sign of The Big D. I give it a couple of hours and if there's no sign of it leaving me alone, I take the pills. It is SO HARD to be a pill popper when you never even took extra-strength Tylenol before. But you gotta do what you gotta do to be comfortable, right? Taxotere is NASTY stuff. Oh, and also I found that dairy irritates things a little - so I limit myself for that first week. 

    As for the bone/muscle pain, yup - I often have to remind myself that Taxotere is HELPING ME. My first round the pain was so severe I wept and wept and wept. I was told I could alternate Tylenol and Advil as long as I didn't have a fever. Epsom salts baths helped too - just drink LOTS of water. The thing that made the biggest dent in the pain, though, is the daily Claritan. Again, BEFORE I never took anti-histamines unless I was DESPERATE, and now? I'm popping those pills EVERY SINGLE DAY.

    MommyQ - THANK YOU for the suggestion of the Zoku! Such a great idea! :)

    My furry mouth is still hanging in there. Blech. It not only makes everything taste terrible, it also HURTS to chew and swallow. Bread and fruit are especially nasty, so I'm drinking Veggie Juice, which I never liked the the taste of before. But now I kinda crave it. Who would've thought?

    Isn't it funny how everything is now categorized into BEFORE and NOW? When people get excited about my last chemo in a couple of weeks, they say things like "Oh, and then things can get back to NORMAL for you!" Ummm, I'm not sure I know what "normal" means. There's a New Normal now, and I have no idea what it's going to look like. But still I say BRING IT. :)

    Hang in there Ladies! For those of you in the midst of The Dark Place, we've got your back, and The Light is coming. 

    Hugs to all! :)

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited July 2014

    mrcaruso - while you are asking questions ask your mo why I have a dull mid back ache all the time now LOL. 

    I just came back from having dinner - actually had an appetite and taste buds so I took advantage and had hubby take me out.  Went to a mexican joint and I had their steak that has a nice ranchero sauce on it - not too spicy but a very nice flavor and I ate the refried beans and left he rice.  I was so good as I avoided the chips and torilla's cause of my diabetes - then the waiter decided to be "nice" and brought a complimentary desert.   Sorry but my will power went out the window.  I will pay for this with my counts tonight and in the morning.  But at least I got a little enjoyment out of the high numbers - unlike when I am good and just take my steroids.  

    Oh well, hope you are starting to feel better footballnut and mrcaruso.  And here is hoping for a week of minimal SE's for all of us going through treatment!

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited July 2014

    • Linda505 _  Maybe you will.skate on the numbers since you had a lot of protein and the dessert was consumed within an hour of that.  Here's hoping!  
  • lilyrose53
    lilyrose53 Member Posts: 216
    edited July 2014

    Footballnut-  Sorry you are having so much tummy trouble.  But I'm right there with you.  I was thinking how much easier the Taxol has been...ha!  Not this time.  My digestive system is so messed up.  Third day after infusion is always rough but this takes the cake.  I feel like I should just set up housekeeping in the bathroom!

    Cold - It sure is hard to remember that these stupid drugs are actually helping us!  I wouldn't wish the way I'm feeling on my worst enemy!

    To everyone else - I'm having trouble keeping up with all the posts!  You guys are amazing.  I am trying to read and catch up...but I'm having trouble keeping everything straight in my head.  Right now I guess fatigue has taken over.  I'm hoping for a better day tomorrow.

    Wishing you all an SE free week,  hugs, lilyrose

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited July 2014

    Hi, Lily - nice to "see" you.

    This will be funny - someday in the future, but not right now!!!

    Picture late Sat afternoon on the July 4th Holiday Weekend.  Add in a chemo patient, trying to work her way through the last bit of cytoxan/taxotere running through her system.  Having (mostly) conquered the big C, she is now rather delicately negotiating the fine balance of the big D ... With frequent precautionary trips to the bathroom.

    Picture Husband coming in the house and announcing, "we have a broken water pipe, had to shut off all water to the house."  We are now hoping to get a plumber out Sunday, but who knows?  Until then, we will have to haul buckets of water in from the swamp to facilitate flushing.  My luck, I'll get eaten by an alligator.

    See - it could always be worse ;)

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited July 2014

    SharonDe - Too funny.  Gotta laugh at life's little jokes.

  • lilyrose53
    lilyrose53 Member Posts: 216
    edited July 2014

    Sharon - you just made my day!   I about peed my pants.  You're right...it could always be worse.  Stay away from those alligators!

    Hugs, lilyrose

  • lena-lou
    lena-lou Member Posts: 10
    edited July 2014

    SharonDe, oh no!  That is bad timing.  I hope the plumber can get out there tomorrow!  

    Linda505, I would not have had willpower with a free dessert, either!  I love Mexican food too -- glad you enjoyed it!

    ColdinCanada, my "babies" are 7, 6, and 4.  And I am 47, an old mom.  My oldest is my bio child and my younger two were adopted.  I hear you on feeling like a pill-popper -- I have one of those little day-of-the-week pill organizers that is mostly for my OTC medication.   Thanks for your encouraging words - I am glad the light is coming for you soon with the end of chemo!  I hope you will share what your New Normal is like!

    Brigadoon, I really like the quote in your siggy (is that what they are called on these boards?)  I'm sorry for the bone pain and hope it eases soon.

    MsCaruso, I am also an obsessor.  I'm glad you will be getting all your questions answered soon.

    Footballnut, so sorry to hear about the digestive problems!  I have been constipated since starting chemo and if it weren't for stool softeners, I would never go.   

    Mompr, Are you taking dexomethosone (sp?)?  The nurse practitioner in my MO's office said that could cause spaciness and she had me cut the dose for my 2nd cycle since my nausea wasn't too bad.  You look beautiful, and so does your daughter!

    Jbokland and MommyQ, thanks for the good beach wishes.  I think it was healing since now I am back home with a good energy level.

    Wendy, glad to see you on this board!  Embarrassing confession - when I was first looking for a monthly chemo group to join, I could not find any except for the April group.  Now I see there are several. Chemo brain has definitely affected me.

    Clarrn, what a beautiful beach!  

    Timbuktu and Lilyrose, sorry to hear you have had digestive problems too.  

    We came back from the beach today.  I was happy to be home and had decent energy, enough to get a lot of laundry done and things unpacked.  I also had a good appetite this evening, which is unusual -- I have had very little appetite since starting chemo.  I do seem to be losing my eyelashes.  The ones on the bottom started falling out first.  The hair on my head has not all fallen out - I still have probably 10-20% of it as stubble.  So maybe I will keep a few eyelashes too?  Hard to say!

    Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend as much as possible.

  • Mompv
    Mompv Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2014

    SharonDe  yikes! When it rains it pours!!! I hope the plumber comes today! 

    Linda505. I love Mexican food too! Take what enjoyment you can and eat the dessert once in a while!!! Your numbers will regulate. Drink lots if water and exercise that brings my DH's numbers down when he over does it! 

    I made strawberry lemonade! All I can say is yum! 

    My "babies" are 23 and 21. They are both home now. My youngest home from college and my oldest s still looking for a decent apartment. So I have them home for now!!!!

    Here is a pic of them and also an engagement pic of my youngest!!!

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  • MameMe
    MameMe Member Posts: 425
    edited July 2014

    Mompv, Your photos are just bursting with life, and so very positive! Thank you for sharing!! 

    SharonDe, My sympathies to you in your plumbing trials, what a crummy time for this to happen! Yikes! Otherwise, how is your energy post-chemo? I was given a pass, as they called it, and no chemo last week or this. I am already beginning to feel more normal, its amazing. It will be tough going back to the weekly routine. Oh well, I will enjoy it while I can. How,s the hair coming along?

    MsCaruso, My oncologist is super cautious about neuropathy signs, like burning sensations on soles of feet, numbness or peeling or blistering. I have two weeks off of chemo just because I STARTED to get the burning feeling and a little more numbness in patches. It might be good to call your onc. office about those blisters. Let us know what you hear about that.

    Brigadoon, Are you better today? I get confused about the etiology of symptoms, too, and when you throw in mets, well, that really adds to the full catastrophe. With a few extra days without chemo this week, I am more aware of its effect on my sense of well being. Starting to feel moments of the old normal! Wow! 

    Limda 505, That term, dementors' convention is so descriptive! Its taken me decades to understand how to defer major decisions when I am in a bad mood, how not to take anything too seriously til I feel better, etc, etc. Hoping things continue to feel easier this week for you. 

    FBN, Wishing that the good fairy of healthy tummies visits you today and relieves you of any discomfort. We all need your cute self in top form, leading the inspiration brigade!

    Hugs to all, Mame

  • Mompv
    Mompv Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2014

    I can't take credit for the photos. My oldest daughters best friend is a photographer. She is on Facebook as Unseen photography. 

  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited July 2014

    good morning ladies

    Thank you for your kind words and support. I couldn't stop crying yesterday and feel like doing the same today. The pain is debilitating!  I can't take it!  I have percocets but am afraid to take them. I've been taking Tylenol which has been helping. Just can't see how this is all good for me. I've never been in so much pain in my life. 

    My tongue feels swollen and burns. No mouth sores. Hubby has been giving me chopped ice which helps

    I feel like passing out - feels like I have sweats. Not hungry but have to eat. The thought of food makes me want to gag. I just ate cream of wheat. Tastes like cardboard

    My stomach is moving so I don't know if I should keep taking my meds. Ugh

    My eyes hurt, my ears hurt, my cheeks hurt, my port hurts, my chest hurts, my back hurts, my knees, my hips!!  Then I start crying again!  My poor hubby!  He has been fantastic

    I don't know how I can keep going like this if it gets worse tomorrow when hubby is at work and I'm alone!!

    I'm so sorry to be such a downer today!

    Trying to keep my spirits up by watching tennis. Go federer!!

    Hope that all of you are okay!!!!

  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited July 2014

    mompv beautiful pics!!!!!  Makes me smile to see such happiness!!!!

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited July 2014

    footballnut - I'm not a medical person, but I don't think you should have to suffer this much.  Perhaps your onc should refer you to an urgent care or emergency facility where you can get some proactive relief.  And, agree, taking Percocet is likely to make it worse.  Feel for you.

    Mompv - beautiful daughters and photos.

    Mame - missing chemo is a mixed blessing, at least your body will have a chance to heal before the next one.

    We are managing, but probably will not have the waterline repaired until tomorrow.  We are having torrential thunderstorms, which doesn't help the outside working situation.  Just glad we don't have a house full of company.  My energy is slowly returning - at least I can sit up all day now.

  • Mompv
    Mompv Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2014

    Footballnut you need to call your dr!! They always say to call because they have meds for everything!!!

  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited July 2014

    unfortunately can't reach anyone today unless it's emerg and I'd prefer to stay away from there

    If I feel this bad tomorrow morning I'll be calling

  • Swissmiss
    Swissmiss Member Posts: 111
    edited July 2014

    Hi Ladies!  I just spent part of my morning catching up on all your posts...I was so completely out of the loop the last two or three days post dd Taxol.  But I'm back, and here to let you know I'm thinking of you :) I cannot believe I've completed seven infusions.  One more to go!

    Besides the expected bone pain, I can always count on the big C after my infusion.  I think it is almost entirely due to the pain meds and cough medicine I take, but I'd rather deal with C than the excruciating pain.  I hear what some of you are saying about all the pills...I can't stand it.  I take pills for pain, then more pills to deal with the SE's of those pills, then still MORE pills for other reasons.  I cannot wait to be pill-free!

    Does anyone else have pain from their port? It's always been uncomfortable, but after infusion it HURTS. I'm counting the days until my last infusion so I can get rid of this dang port.  I'm wondering when it can be removed?  My surgeon originally said it could be removed in the office, but I've read it's actually an outpatient surgery. Anyone looked into this? 

    My hubby and I celebrated (sort of) our 18th wedding anniversary yesterday :) I'm so happy to have him to help me through this cancer journey.  I thank God I have him every day.  I was a little too under the weather to leave the house yesterday, but we spent the day hanging out with our three beautiful kids and enjoying homemade chocolate coconut malts here at home.

    I hope you're all having a great day...thank you so much for all your positive energy.  I love reading about all of you, and please know your stories are helping me get through this.  

    xoxo

  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited July 2014

    Footballnut,  Sending thought of healing and freedom from pain your way.  It sounds intolerable...hang in there until tomorrow when you can call your MO.  If the MO has an emergency number, now would be the time to call.  Huge hugs to you.

    Swissmiss, No pain from the port post infusion, but I can't stand mine either and can't wait for it to be removed.  On another thread someone posted a you tube of port removal in office rather than hospital. She actually chose to have hers removed this way, and said it was no big deal at all!   My BS actually only does removal in her office in a 10 minute procedure.  Or, I can go to the hospital and have an interventional radiologist remove it, and would have more than local anesthesia.  The in-office procedure is local only, but then you don't have to spend hours in the hospital. I'll probably chicken out and go to the hospital.  My port was very painful sleeping until about 2 months ago when it finally "settled."  I'm told it's not uncommon for it to be painful in thin, smallish women which is me.   

    Thought I was sailing through nearly at the end of Taxol, but couldn't get my infusion on Thursday as my white blood count gran was only 0.9 - overall wbc was 1.6.  Ugh.  My MO is OK with me skipping it and having only 11 Taxols, but I'm doing all 12.  What's another week added to what's already been half a year since DX!  Hard to believe I've already been that long a resident of cancerland-:). 

    Paula

     

     


     

  • Longislandl8y
    Longislandl8y Member Posts: 145
    edited July 2014

    Hi all.  This fourth of July wknd such a bust :( Beautiful weather and all I can do is shuffle back and forth to and from the bathroom trying to s&*t bricks.  (sorry).  I missed out on a big family celebration yesterday, and a smaller one this morning and it's not the missing out that upsets me as much as the not being there for my hubby.  I can tell he is depressed about having to do things without me, and there's really nothing I can do about it with the digestive distress.  Even though we know to expect it, it still hits us in such a way that it's downright frustrating and sucky.  Boo!  I was so happy knowing I only had one more infusion left, but now I'm already dreading that last one in two weeks and just want the doctor to surprise me on Tues. and say I don't need it.  I know that won't happen, but I just feel defeated today.  I guess I'll allow myself today to feel this way, and pack it in and hopefully back to positivity tomorrow.  It will be good if the big C would pass and the D doesn't show up - then I can at least go back to work tomorrow. 

    Mompv - I made strawberry lemonade too, and I froze it into ice pops (1lb organic strawberries, 2 organic lemons, 1/2 cup pure cane sugar, 3 cups water).  Made 6 pops I believe.  Really good.  Going to go have one now :)  (ps. your daughters are beautiful!)

    Football - I'm worried about you.  How about a nice bath... that might help? :( I'm going to focus my prayers on you today, girl.

     

  • EverForward
    EverForward Member Posts: 242
    edited July 2014

    Hello, fellow warriors. After getting through round 4 chemo week and feeling human again, let me tell you how I spent the weekend. I haven't been able to go out much or travel since my diagnosis (and my birthday fell on a bad chemo day), so I decided to cram a lot of pampering and enjoyment into one holiday weekend. Having almost reached the annual out-of-pocket maximum of my health insurance, I celebrated by spending an OBSCENE amount of money on myself at a nice resort and spa about an hour outside of DC.

    I left the wig at home, but took several nice scarves with me. When I was getting ready for my spa treatment, I hesitated about leaving the scarf in the locker and walking around the spa area bald. I haven't let anyone see me like that. But I left the scarf behind. When I was sitting in the relaxation room waiting for my treatment, a bald woman walked by. We gave each other a knowing smile. It was perfect. I saw her later in the restaurant, still bald, having a nice time with some friends. 

    This was the first time since my diagnosis that I haven't felt like Cancer Girl. I didn't talk about cancer at all this weekend! 

  • Longislandl8y
    Longislandl8y Member Posts: 145
    edited July 2014

    Everforward - thank you for the awesome share ~<3~ and good for you!


     

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