Chemo in May 2014

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  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited July 2014

    Hi Lespring,

    My MO told me that I most likely would not get the shot for my last treatment as the main purpose of the shot is to ensure that your WBC count will recover in time for the next treatment.  I would think that there wouldn't be a problem not getting it but then you need to be aware that during that recovery time that you will be more prone to infections as your WBC will be slower in recovering.  I am planning on opting out on the last one too.

  • jsd44
    jsd44 Member Posts: 33
    edited July 2014

    That's interesting, lespring, about your reactions to Neulasta. I've had terrible sleep problems, too, but thought it was the Decadron. Though I don't get pain or fever from the Neulasta, I'm wondering if the insomnia is from that. I'm glad to know that I might be able to skip the Neulasta on the last round, but, for me, that won't be until October. 

    This morning is my 3rd round of AC. I'm trying not to get too caught up in the long haul ahead--a 4th round of AC, then 12 weeks of weekly Taxol, then 6 weeks of radiation, then Tamoxifen indefinitely. I've been lurking on the Taxol discussion board, but I don't think reading the posts helps to keep me calm. Like here, some women are having a hard time with Taxol. 

    I'm trying to remind myself to be present in the now, the here and now, but it's hard. 

    I wish us all minimal SEs, sleep, and lots of joyful moments in the here and now.

  • Lakegirl1
    Lakegirl1 Member Posts: 316
    edited July 2014

    Lespring...I have not had the neulasta shot at all and generally speaking, my SE's are NOTHING when I see what you have endured.   MO only gives it when you need it, not as precautionary  measure.   For me, the concern was the bone pain that I would not be able to take the pain meds to alleviate. I am a no narcotics kind of girl.  My understanding is he wants to see if my body will rebound on its own, so far so good. This was a concern as I had staph coming into this craziness.   I dropped to 1.8, but have bounced back to about 8 by next infusion. I have one treatment to go and the goal is NO NEULASTA!!!  I would definitely talk with them about it.   

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited July 2014

    Lakegirl1 thanks. Yeah, I am going to opt out of the Neulasta the last round. I don't see a need for it since I don't have to get my body ready for another round. I am beyond miserable with the bone pain today, and non-functional as a parent. Thankfully my adult son is here to help with the kids.

    I pray I never develop breast cancer again. Honestly, these four measly rounds are too much. I'd rather just have a mastectomy and never deal with it again. 

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited July 2014

    Hello 'sisters'-  I am 3 weeks PFC and getting ready to start Rads.  You will get through this! 

    When I was bald, I started 'bedazzling' my head.  I just couldn't be comfortable in a wig and I preferred to go topless, but was a bit shy about it.  It was SO wonderful to decorate my head and have people stop me to chat instead of give me that sympathetic half-smile and a nod.  I could not get through a shopping area or public place without being stopped or complimented . More importantly, I was having wonderful conversations with people about their stories, their cancer experience. It made me proud and confident.  Its really quite liberating during this time.

    Anyway, through lots of encouragement, I launched my own product and I call it Sassy Head. I only have one design now, but I REALLY need some people to give it a test spin for me.  It works wonderfully on my skin ( I could sleep in mine and get 2-3 days use) but everyone is different.

    Please private message me with your address if I can mail you a free one one to try.

    Below are some pics. The first group was my head when I was bedazzling, and the second is my available design.  I plan to do additional designs, including a pink ribbon and designs for children.  Your suggestions are welcome!

    www.sassyhead.com

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  • lisa84
    lisa84 Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2014

    Hello everyone,

    So far lost most my hair. Cannot remember when i shaved it off i think it was just after the third dose. Go in four my last a/c dose tomorrow then from there on will be taxol. Powering through even though my body feels like 'please dont put more poison in me'. Just try to focus on the things i live for.

    I found i got bone pain from the neupogen injections and found that clariton/antihistamines helped. May be something to mention to your doctor

    Find i am fortunate that my side affects are relatively manageable just need to watch my moods. Very use to being independent and get very frustrated on the days i cant function well. Hopefully things get easier with the taxol

    My thoughts are with everyone. Take care

    Lisa

  • nancybel
    nancybel Member Posts: 81
    edited July 2014

    I'm on day 8 after my last TX and the hives are starting again. Just as I come out of the SE the hives start. I'll be calling my MO tomorrow for prednisone prescription before it gets too out of hand.  Hope everyone else is having minimal SE. 

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited July 2014

    Question: If you carried the BRCA genes and had a mastectomy preventatively is the end result better than a mastectomy done to remove cancerous tissue? 

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited July 2014

    Do you mean cosmetically? I think the gals with BRCA can keep their nipple, and with cancer they often recommend removing the nipple.

  • amyo
    amyo Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2014

    I  just finished round 4 of AC on Tuesday. I'm fortunate to have had minimal SE. Now on to taxol & Herceptin for 12 weeks. Hoping that goes as well.

     

  • lisa84
    lisa84 Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2014

    I finished my AC on wednesday. Now i do 18 treatments of herceptin and 4 of taxol. Dlso far minimal side effects. Did anyone have any se with the herceptin or taxol?

  • jsd44
    jsd44 Member Posts: 33
    edited July 2014

    Hi, Lisa: You and I have almost similar diagnoses. Only I'm PR+ and HER2-. Can I ask if you've had surgery? In any case, I have one more round of AC, then I'm on Taxol. I've been reading the posts on the Taxol discussion board and, like here, it seems that everyone has different side effect experiences. Sometimes I don't like to read because it makes me anxious! But, like you, I have had minimal side effects on AC and my onc nurse said Taxol will be even easier. I do worry about neuropathy though; I've had carpal tunnel syndrome for nearly 10 years but very well managed now--I don't want it to come back!

  • writinghelps
    writinghelps Member Posts: 88
    edited July 2014


    lespring, regarding your question better how? cosmetically?

     

     

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited July 2014

    Hi, yes sorry. I should be more clear (and in my defense, I was a bit high on pain meds last night which makes me more depressed. UGH!!!!) Anyway, yeah if you have the surgery done preventatively is the cosmetic outcome any better than if done to remove a bunch of cancerous tissue? 

    I know I can't have the flap procedure because I had a tummy tuck 5 years ago and have nothing left on my abdomen. Maybe from my back but given I've had a tummy tuck that would just make me look really weird, like a barrel chest or something. 

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited July 2014

    What's the recovery like for a tummy tuck? I was considering the Deip flap, but afraid of getting all that surgery. 

  • writinghelps
    writinghelps Member Posts: 88
    edited July 2014

    I had a simple mastectomy with no reconstruction. I'm assuming a simple MX is what is performed when it's prophylactic.


     

  • Lakegirl1
    Lakegirl1 Member Posts: 316
    edited July 2014

    Lespring....one consideration is that " normal" skin is much easier to work with vs. radiated skin.    

    I was rather busty, as my grandmother used to say...so having to work with the radiated skin and a reduction was not going to give me the best case scenario for a good cosmetic outcome.   By having the bmx, I greatly reduced risk of recurrence, bypassed radiation and have best case scenario, in my situation, for good cosmetic outcome. I would have a consult with the PS, it doesn't mean you are obligated to go one way or another.  Ultimately, totally your choice based on your situation.    

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited July 2014

    Debiann, the tummy tuck recovery wasn't that bad at all! The most difficult part to deal with is the swelling and constipation from pain meds. But they keep you well drugged. Loopy Also, it is usually an outpatient procedure so you do need someone to take care of you for the first first days at home. Its really very similar to to what I've read about mastectomy surgeries. I have a private blog with my before/after pics, as well as details about recovery etc.

    Lakegirl1, yeah my plan is to make a decision about this before I start radiation. If I have the gene, then absolutely I'll be doing surgery. If I don't I need to make up my mind because I should be starting rads the end of August and I would prefer to not be working with radiated skin if I decide to do surgery. 

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited July 2014

    Love your blog! Its a great way to share your story and record important events.  It must be fun to be able to look back and see what you've accomplished. Your kids & dogs are adorable.  I didn't find the tummy tuck thread or photos, what month and year did it happen?

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited July 2014

    I'll pm you the link to the tummy tuck blog. The link in my signature is my family blog. The tummy talk is secure and private because there are are post op pics, etc.

  • lisa84
    lisa84 Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2014

    Hello jsd44,

    I have my surgery scheduled for sept 30th. They wanted the chemo prior to the surgery. I read up on taxol as well just wanting to have an idea of what i am looking at. Hopefully here on out gets easier and easier. Not being able to be independent drives me nuts lol. 


  • JKLB
    JKLB Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2014

    Hello All.  Had #3 CT last Monday.  I am so blessed again.  No real SE.  I am very tired.  I do not sleep much the night before through day 3.  Then I am just exhausted.  Slept 12 hours last night into the afternoon today.  I completely understand how those of you with bad SE want to quite.  I have almost none and did't want to go on Monday. 

    I am doing well with Nuelasta.  Take Claritin/Tylenol regimen and now adding Ensure(protein drinks).  Have a little back pain, but nothing like I had the first round.

    Blessings to all for better days ahead!

    Joy

  • writinghelps
    writinghelps Member Posts: 88
    edited July 2014

    That's encouraging Joy. I have my 3rd TC tomorrow and am so nervous. I have had pretty mild SE's except for a face rash that got so bad I was in the hospital a few days (which BTW is healing but is not completely gone and I am worried about this.)

  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited July 2014

    I haven't been on since just before my 3rd round and that was about 10 days ago. I can't stand the queasiness and the taste in  my mouth. I can't figure out what to eat and water is getting to be the last thing I want to drink anymore. Whatever I eat when I get home from treatment, grosses me out to think about for a long time. I don't have any bone pain since I take Claritin. My last one is Friday and I'm finding that I feel queasy just thinking about it!

    The weekend is the worst and when I wake up Monday I usually feel a lot better, just tired.

    My doctors say that most people tolerate the Taxol much better then the A/C. I'm counting on it! I still have to take the nuelasta shot with Taxol. I figure I will be completed with the whole chemo thing by the first week of October and rads by mid Nov. Seems like a lifetime 

  • Missyjean
    Missyjean Member Posts: 27
    edited July 2014

    In the chair for the 4th and final round!!!!! I thought I would be so excited but rather I just cried all morning and tried to think of things that bring me down the first week and how I'm sick of my eyes twitching, worrying about the rest of my hair, the nasty taste in my mouth, and especially the chemo brain!!!!! I am dropping everything and can't focus at all. All the staff keeps telling me how great I've done and how much I've accomplished and I just feel cranky and sad! Ugh, what is my problem?!?!?!?

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited July 2014

    Ugh, the bad mouth taste, my most dreaded se. I find that the mints made for dry mouth give me temporary relief from the awful taste. I'll be doing round 4 on Wednesday and my taste buds never went back to normal after round 3. I'm pretty cranky and down for 10 days after each infusion. I think its normal, your body is trying to figure out why you keep subjecting it to this assault.

  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited July 2014

    Watermelon (thank god it's in season) is great for the bad taste, so are the sugar free jolly ranchers and life savers. My taste buds have almost disappeared in the back of my mouth and replaced with that slight metallic taste. It hung around a little longer this time. I'm starting to feel queasy just thinking about being queasy! I'm praying Taxol doesn't make me queasy.

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited July 2014

    debiann (and everyone else) I'm sorry you ladies are feeling like crap, but can I just say I am glad to read I'm not the only one who struggles for 10 days???? I have one treatment left on the 17th and I already get teary just thinking about it. This has been the hardest thing I've ever had to do so far in my life. The anticipation of being done is overwhelming. 

    Related to taste: Diary Queen Banana cream Pie blizzards taste amazing to me right now. Pretty much nothing else does.

    Thankfully we were able to enjoy the 4th with the kids. The celebrating we normally do all on one day we were able split up into two, getting the kids to the carnival one day, fireworks the next. My stomach gave me about 3 hours grace each night so I didn't have to make any emergency runs to a porta potty. 

    Tonight I feel like I have a bladder infection starting. I haven't had one in years so all day I've been having twinges that I kept thinking, "This is vaguely familiar but I don't remember what it is." Tonight I have it figured out. We're going out of town on Weds so will have to get this sorted out tomorrow. Of course, on the day I have the least amount of time.

  • Missyjean
    Missyjean Member Posts: 27
    edited July 2014

    Thanks for the encouragement and advice ladies. I did it, I made it through my last round. I forgot to mention the thing that sent me over the edge this morning is the NP ( who I had not met before but she told me she does fills) who did my expander fill for me and went straight near my scar!! Like the magnet would be there!!!!!! I told her my port was up top but she poked me anyway and saline came squirting out all over the place. They paged the PS PA who came and did it right but the damage was already done. She told me it would just lowly leak out over time. As silly and vain as it sounds my foobs have been my silver lining. I never had too much of anything there and it has been nice having something actually on my chest instead of my stomach. I know I will get them fixed but not until at least December because I start radiation in a couple of weeks. Ugh! Venting complete!

    Lespring- ice cream does it for me too! Just had the new Reese's peanut butter cup pie blizzard tonight. Yummy!!  You have got to have that possible bladder infection taken care of. You don't want to be stuck out of town totally miserable!! Take care 

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited July 2014

     Congrats to those getting only 4 tx who have finished or are nearing the end. I'm getting 6tx, so only halfway there :(

    Just took my steroids, tomorrow is round 4. Dreading it. Spending the day indulging in some favorite treats since I won't be eating much for the next week. Walnut sticky bun for breakfast, yum!

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