ILC metastases to the stomach
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I've just been diagnosed with metastatic disease in my stomach for ILC that was diagnosed and treated in 2010. It is not very common and so there are mostly case reports. Is anyone else dealing with this? Does anyone know doctors/centers that have more of a handle on this? The prognosis doesn't look great. I'm really trying to find what the cutting edge work in this area is. Thanks for any and all help! Joyce
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Dear Seatle, we're sorry about mets. Hoping you get a treatment plan put in place soon.
Until you get responses here, we just wanted to make a suggestion: In the Stage IV forum there is another thread where you can also read, post and find members with metastasis to the stomach, see here: Mets to stomach and colon.
We hope this helps!
The Mods
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Sorry I can't answer for USA. I hope others respond soon!
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I am so sorry. I have not seen much about it, because it is not common. Have you tried doing a search here on BCO?
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Unfortunately, ILC mets show up in all sorts of places. I have cells in the lining of my stomach, as well as bone mets. I have been on 2 different chemos thus far. First abraxane, which kept things at bay for about 8 months , then TMs started rising. I am currently on Xeloda, which has generally brought my markers down further s far. The xeloda has been easier to tolerate so far (and I still have my hair..). Keep in touch and let me know the progress. Good luck!
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Seattle, Please joain our discussion called "Mets to stomach and colon." How are you doing?
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Yes, I joined the other thread/discussion. Updating there!
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Folks, I just started a closed fb group for people with breast cancer mets to the GI tract. Given the relative rarity of the presentation this page will be a good chance to share information and process. Please pm me to join! Feel free to post this to other boards so we can get all that may be interested. Thanks!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1480356615537301/
Joyce
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You have probably already come across info on Hereditary Diffuse Gastric Cancer, a syndrome with a high degree of association with ILC and which can show up in genetic testing. Mets will also occur independent of this condition however.
I applaud your efforts to educate & join people together. Sharing information is very helpful. Best wishes on your facebook project.
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I have heard of Hereditary Diffuse Gastric Cancer. I don't know if testing for this is done very frequently. Stats I heard was if mutation is present 80% chance of getting gastric cancer and 40% chance of getting lobular breast cancer. I have also heard that they are doing prophilactic stomach removals when the mutation is found.
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Ambry Genetics includes CDH1 (responsible for HDGC & ILC) on their BRCAplus "short" list of mutations causing named conditions such as Li-Fraumeni Syndrome associated with abnormal TP53, etc.
I just read the book Breakthrough by Kevin Davies & Michael White which describes lab work that took place 20 years ago, setting the stage for the current situation. Most of us are unaware of this history: I find it fascinating.
We now can access a lengthy panel of even more obscure tests which don't have much clinical documentation so treatments are not defined. A classic case of science advancing faster than medical practice making patient advocacy, education and support very important.
If the only option is to have your stomach surgically removed, it might help to have contact with at least a few other people. Together, progress which could be of benefit in the future for these rare complications is possible. Keep your spirits up and press on!
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How do you survive if you have had your stomach surgically removed? Sorry if its a silly question.
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Lily - google total gastrectomy and you'll find personal stories of people surviving and thriving without a stomach. It certainly doesn't sound like an easy path by any means, but if you know you carry a harmful CDH1 mutation, it's pretty much the only way to go as diffuse gastric cancer (much like ILC but worse) is extremely hard to detect with scans or endoscopy until it's too late. The Broca panel tests for CDH1 too. HDGC is very rare but has a high penetrance that affects males and females so it can't hide in a family history as easily as a BRCA mutation sometimes can. Very few women with ILC carry a mutation but anyone diagnosed with DGC with any family history of DGC and/or ILC would probably be offered genetic testing.
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How do you know if you have this? My MO doesn't check tumor markers at my 3 month check ups (she says they are unreliable and not something she finds helpful). Any other symptoms? I'm curious.
My grandfather died of stomach cancer in the 40s, but I believe it was a side effect of being gassed in WWI.
Namaste,
Claire in AZ
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Claire,
I doubt markers are the way to detect this. Mine was found as I was having terrible stomach pain and difficulty eating. It didn't show on scans or markers. We found it on endoscopy. If you aren't having symptoms try not to worry. Did you have lobular breast cancer?
J
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Yes, Seattle_Questions..my stats at the bottom of my signature have all my history.
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The trouble with HDGC is that (as with ILC) it can hide on scans. It may not show on endoscopy, being diffuse=spread through the area.
It is very rare but our small family sizes these days along with vague histories from when cancer was not talked about make it a remote possibility for a few. Genetic testing will find the associated abnormality.
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Not sure where my mastatesis is, stomach, colon will know more after the pet scan next week. Just a year ago I had ILC, had a bilateral mascetomy and then chemo. Negative lymph nodes even and a year later it has mastaticized. Last week I had a colonosctomy due to stomach pain. During the colonosctomy they took biopsy that were positive. More to come. I am hoping for some good news from the pet scan.
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