Solidea sleeve?
I am looking for a night sleeve but I really dont want that big giant one- my LE is relatively mild but I do need something for sleeping sometimes. The Solidea is woven differently in the inside of the elbow, which makes it better for sleep than a regular sleeve. Has anyone used this? do you like it or not?
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While I have used and love the Solidea sleeve, it is meant to be a daytime garment to be used while your muscles are active.
The possible problem with wearing a compression sleeve meant for daytime as a night garment is that it may twist and create a tourniquet effect, actually blocking lymph flow.
Garments made for nighttime use, where your muscles are inactive, would be a much safer choice for sleeping.
Binney, Kira, anything to add? Opinions?
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Damiana, I hear you on not wanting to wear an oversized oven mitt to bed--especially in a Texas summer. But as OneBadBoob says, those are the ones that are designed to let you wake up happy with the shape your arm is in. There's another kind, such as Juxtafit by Circaid, or Farrow Wrap, that can be worn day or night. They're nonelastic so they can't twist, and they fasten with multiple Velcro straps. Here's an example:
http://www.circaid.com/email/2012_Juxta-Fit_Armsle...
Some people prefer them to the foam-stuffed "oven mitt" variety made by Solaris and JoviPak, but I find them less comfortable.
As for hot weather, the foam-stuffed variety can be kept in the refrigerator during the day (away from the onions!) and they'll hold the cool long enough for you to get to sleep. A bonus to having one is that it's great for sick days, hospitalizations, and even for "procedures" where you want medical folks to stay away from your arm. I also use mine for longish trips by car, especially when changing altitude, as it does a better job of controlling swelling than day sleeves do.
Unfortunately there's nothing sexy about night sleeves. I order mine with zippers to make getting them off (and back on, of course) quicker and easier. Just a thought…
Be well!
Binney -
thanks for the information Binney.
I ended up ordering a solidea sleeve but it was was not the one my LE therapist showed me, it was a regular daytime compression sleeve. I ended up returning it. I need to look at hers better next time I am in. The mesh it was made of kept it from causing problems at night.
I really thought things would be worse for me as it got hotter- that has really caused problems for me in the past. This year, I seem to be doing much better. For now, if I need something for night I will just wrap my arm/hand with ace/gauze.
Thanks for the info guys!
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Damiana, the Solidea folks are claiming their sleeve can be safely worn at night, but there's no evidence to support that, so I'm not sure how much faith I'd put in the claim. The general consensus is: elastic for day wear (when you're active or at least alert), and non-elastic for night. That reduces the risk of unwanted constriction from twisting or positional issues.
Keep us posted on your discoveries, please.
Be well,
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binney...I just started pt and my gal spoke about a sleeve for when I am active...I don't have issues yet with LE but she said it would help prevent LE... Do you order online and what do sleeves run? She said hers are 50 or 60 dollars....wonder if they are cheaper online...thanks Rosie
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Hi, Rosie,
I order some of my supplies online, and I always comparison shop for prices. Once you have the measurements and specifications from your therapist, you can try these, for instance:
http://www.brightlifedirect.com
http://www.lymphedemaproducts.com
BrightLifeDirect has amazing customer service and return policy. LymphedemaProducts is run by one of the therapist training schools. BandagesPlus has good customer consulting services if you have questions about products or fit.
Please let us know how it goes!
Binney -
damiana, think seventeen times before putting an Ace bandage on your hand or arm. I was going to say think twice, but that's too mild a warning! I'll try to explain why, but YOOHOO, BINNEY, if I got this wrong, please don't hesitate to correct me.
Ace bandages give constant pressure, and the more you stretch them, the more compression they give. LE bandages deliver more pressure by applying more layers. It's way too easy to apply too much compression with an Ace bandage, because you'd have to have an incredibly light and consistent touch when pulling.
Also, LE bandages are designed to apply more compression when your muscles are moving against them, and less compression when your muscles are inactive. The muscles push the lymphatic capillaries against the firmness of the sleeve or bandages, in a pumping action. You want there to be less pressure between pumps, and that's not going to happen with the Ace bandage.
Incredibly, we've heard of some doctors telling patients to just use an Ace bandage. It's easy to fall into that trap, because visually, they sure do look the same. But they're not.
There's a lot to know, isn't there?
Carol
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I wear that giant big one. The Reidsleeve and I'm SO happy with it. Other than when I go to my MT and I leave wrapped, I've not had to wrap at home for 1.5 years. This has given me my life back. I am grateful. The reason I have a Reidsleeve is because ADP covers a portion of the cost. I'm not trying to promote R.S. just saying, it's not that bad wearing one. We have A/C and I put a fan over me at night. It's been very doable. -
Carol, I'm with you on that. No ACE, for the reasons mentioned. The learning curve on this is so steep, and the information offered by our medical providers so sparse, that it sure can be confusing!
Better nighttime solutions while you're waiting for a great night solution are to elevate your arm at night on pillows (tricky but worth the effort) and buttonhole the therapist into teaching you to wrap your arm properly with short-stretch bandages. It's not easy to learn, but it's a fantastic thing to know how to do--helps you take back control of your life because you can respond quickly to any changes or flares, sleep comfortably as needed, and even use it for travel that might otherwise cause flares. We just really need to know how to care for ourselves.
Go for it!
Binney -
thank you for reminding me to always check here before trying something new like ace bandages! I have learned so much!
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damiana, I learn something new about LE every week. It's astonishing what there is to learn, but it's also amazing how many people in this forum know so much, and are so willing to share. I owe Binney and many others a huge debt of gratitude for helping me understand what I'm dealing with.
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