What now? Does size even matter?

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Mldeherrera Member Posts: 6
What now? Does size even matter?

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  • Mldeherrera
    Mldeherrera Member Posts: 6
    edited June 2014

    I have had a mammogram, ultrasound, MRI, and a vacuum assisted biopsy. I got the biopsy results yesterday, and they are saying DCIS. How do they know if it has spread to the nodes if they were not tested? I see the surgeon tomorrow morning, but what happens now? The mass in my breast is very large. I was told if they took out he lump it would be at least 30% of my breast tissue. Will I need chemo, radiation, and will these be done before or after surgery? I am not that attached to my boobs, I would rather them just take them both completely off so I don't have to go through this again. If I do have a mastectomy, is chemo and radiation still needed? Sorry that's a lot, but I am very confused. I am a 37 year old with a 15 year old daughter, and no family history. 

  • Jelson
    Jelson Member Posts: 1,535
    edited June 2014

    Ductal Cancer In Situ - DCIS is cancer (even that is debated) stage 0 and is confined to the milk ducts. The cells are abnormal and are multiplying, but they are incapable of breaking out the milk ducts. Milk ducts are like strands of spaghetti and you might have these abnormal cells following the paths of several ducts - hence a large area. The size of the area might make you choose a mastectomy, if so, you may be given the option of a sentinal node biopsy, where dye is injected in the mass and tracked to see what lymph node/nodes pick it up first and it/those are excised and examined. This is usually only done in cases of DCIS when the patient chooses mastectomy - not because it is absolutely necessary, but because after a mastectomy it can't be done.  If the patient chooses lumpectomy, it is usually followed by radiation, but even that is a personal decision. Mastectomy for DCIS is usually only followed by radiation if the mass is very close to the chest wall. Chemotherapy is not given for DCIS, if however the mass is found to be estrogen responsive,  tamoxifen, which blocks estrogen from getting to the er responsive cells is recommended. Tamoxifen is a daily pill that at this point for DCIS is recommended to be taken for 5 years and that too is your decision.  BreastCancer.Org has not only these discussion boards but also vetted clinical information about diagnosis, surgery, radiation - what to expect and much info on DCIS. Sorry that you have been diagnosed, but know that we are all here to help you get through this.

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited June 2014

    Just to add to Jelson's rather excellent post, if all you have is DCIS, then by definition it cannot have spread to the lymph nodes, as it would be contained in the milk ducts.   As she said, lymph nodes are usually checked during a mastectomy because in about 20% of cases, some invasive cancer (usually a very tiny amount) is found lurking in the DCIS, but this is not known until after the tissue removed during the surgery has been removed, and by then, with a mastectomy it would be impossible to go back later for the least invasive of the node biopsies (sentinel node), as you need to have a breast for that procedure.   For DCIS patients who have a lumpectomy, the nodes are not usually looked at during the initial surgery because if something invasive turns up, it is still possible to go back and check the lymph nodes afterwards if necessary.

  • lovestorun
    lovestorun Member Posts: 167
    edited June 2014

    I'm sorry you are going through this.  DCIS is scary and confusing.  But the good news, which others have pointed out, is that it has not spread to the lymph nodes and that is huge.  No chemotherapy. 

    As for what's next, here was my process.  I had a team of three medical providers - a breast surgeon, a radiation oncologist and a medical oncologist.  They worked as a team.   My first consult was with the breast surgeon to discuss lumpectomy vs. mastectomy; if I had wanted or needed mastectomy, I had the option to meet with a plastic surgeon. I chose lumpectomy.  The radiation oncologist explained the radiation process to me. I did not meet with the medical oncologist until after surgery - he is the one who prescribed Tamoxifen (I am ER+/PR+ and pre-menopausal).  Along the way there were consults with my OB/GYN (birth control options), an MRI and a MRI biopsy.   My surgeon and my radiation onc. both talked at length with me about my choices and options.  And gave me stastics about those choices and recurrence rates; personally I found it hard to process those statistics having been on the "bad" side of them after my initial biopsy. 

    I am over a year out from my last radiation appointment and physically feeling just fine.  My left pec muscles sometimes get sore with overuse, but otherwise, everything has healed very nicely. My scar has healed amazingly well.  My health is as good as before and I am doing all the old things I used to do - running, hiking, yardwork etc.  Tamoxifen has had some side effects (brittle nails, dry hair, and on occasion night sweats).  I feel very lucky.

    If you have a friend who can come with you to your initial appointments and take notes, I'd recommend it. I found it hard to process all of the information at the time, and it was helpful to have a second set of ears and notes later.  I also wrote down all of my questions in a big notebook and brought them with me to appts so I wouldn't forget them in the moment. 

    Beesie has some good posts on DCIS and options on this board. I don't know how to link them here, but perhaps someone else can or you can find them.

    Good luck with your consult.  It does get better once you start making decisions and treatment gets underway. 

     

  • Mldeherrera
    Mldeherrera Member Posts: 6
    edited June 2014

    thank you all very much for your words of wisdom and sharing your stories with me. I am sitting in the waiting room ready to see the surgeon and get this ball rolling. I will keep you all posted on how things are going and the options and choices I will be making. Again it is great to know there is a group of strong women and men that have been through or are going through the same things, that are willing to lend an ear. Much love

  • Mldeherrera
    Mldeherrera Member Posts: 6
    edited June 2014

    after talking with the surgeon yesterday I am feeling ok. Mastectomy is the only option on my left breast because the mass  is so large. While going over the MRI there was a small area on the right that was not able to be felt at time of MRI, but would have to be watched closely for the next 5 years. Now, a week after the MRI, the surgeon and myself can feel the mass in the right breast, and it seems to be growing quickly. I am scheduled for a double mastectomy with lymph node excision on both sides. Check in is at 8am 6-26-14, with the dye injection at 9, and surgery at noon. She expects the surgery to last 3 hours and just an overnight stay in the hospital, as long as pain is well controlled. I do not have reconstruction planned at this point, but will always have the option later if it is something I decide I want. There is also no chance to save the nipple on the left, because the mass is so close to the surface. Thank you all for your kindness and words of wisdom. 

  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited June 2014

    Sorry you have to join our club.  Come on over and join the June 2014 surgery group.  They are an active group of ladies with good questions and answers.

    Best of luck with your surgery.  It will be over before you know it.

    HUGS

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