how to treat an ulcerated (breast) tumor

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  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    brookside must be small too, here is only a few hundred people, less since the 2 floods in 2011.  interesting though to test the exudation, I expect it would rest as lymph. (colorless)

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited June 2014

    Kayb, someone explained that Jobs' cancer was initially (prior to biopsy) thought to be the typical, lethal kind. Upon biopsy, the docs were, indeed, giddy with joy that it was not after all. Jobs went the juice route rather than having surgery right away.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    I plan to contact the male docktor when I have insurance.  I plan to pay for any consultation to him & not use the ins, but I want it before I seek attention from him

  • kayfh
    kayfh Member Posts: 790
    edited June 2014

    Abigail .  That is fantastic.  

    The exudate, even if it is colourless, it testable.  It is likely not lymph, but serous exudate.  You may or may wish to google it.

    All the best.   Kay

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    looked & skimmed a bit, didn't find anything new, & I think I can't read any more of this stuff for now anyway

  • Heidihill
    Heidihill Member Posts: 5,476
    edited June 2014

    Abigail, you don't have to wait for insurance. You can call your local hospital and ask to speak with a social worker. A social worker will help you to get the medical care you need even without insurance.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    don't use the phone except when the heat goes off in the winter, want the ins before I begin a trip I disagree with strongly.  but after all we're all, cancer, sick or well on a death trip:  it's called "life".  up at 3, gonna take a nap

  • MusicLover
    MusicLover Member Posts: 4,225
    edited June 2014

    This is a general question for the alternative group, does anyone know of anyone who "cured" themselves of breast cancer using alternative methods (no surgery, chemo or rads)?  I am not trying to stir things up, honestly, but I have done a lot of research for the past several months and I have read the story of Lorraine Day (she actually add some surgery) and Kristine Nolfi.  I also found the stories of other women who claimed to have "cured" their breast cancer [Brenda Cobb (Living Foods), Jessica Richards (IV vit C), Sharlene Stump (Gerson), Cindy Wheatcraft (ph Dr. Robert O. Young), Tamara St. John(Budwig) and Leah Putnam(Wholy Cancer)]. There may be more but some others I found succumbed to the disease in the end.  Of course, we can argue that conventional treatment does not offer any guarantees - that is not my argument.  I am just curious and if you do know of someone please state what they did.  It seems that there are more testimonies for other types of cancer cured through alternative methods.

    It does sound like Abigail has breast cancer.  I just want to say that of course treating the ulcerated lesion is not going to cure your cancer, at this point you are probably stage IV and if you were to seek medical help and they find your cancer is ER+ and if your doctors put you on hormone therapy it will definitely allow you more time to try alternative methods that can help you.  Best wishes to you.

  • luv_gardening
    luv_gardening Member Posts: 1,393
    edited June 2014

    Abigail, it seems that the wound sites I am searching all have the same information you are already using.  You know about charcoal, honey and other natural products that are used in the nursing and hospice field.  I haven't found anything new but will keep looking out for anything that may help. 

    I'm so glad you are going to see a dr and getting a diagnosis but you shouldn't have to do it just to satisfy the doubters on here, after all, anyone can come on here and say they have been diagnosed.  I do hope the doctors are kind to you, otherwise there are many good suggestions on this thread for clinics and other options with caring health workers.  

    Take care... Joy

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    hi joy.  probably be a while.  took me many months to even get my birth certificate to the social security office (& 15 dollars in 3 tries (certified mail), & now the "window" has closed until september.  I enclosed a letter asking to have the medicare expedited because of the delays.  lots of luck with that. but I want a back-up, what with my luck

    havn't tried the charcoal, stopped needing such recently with the new essential oil.  it seems

     to be stopping the blood as well, even with all the rain today  bet you're glad I've learned (somewhat anyway) to edit

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited June 2014

    hi abigail. i don't really know you yet. i dont know whether it is breast cancer or not. i do hope you do get to see a dr, only cause it seems you are suffering, and even if you only want relief from suffering, they can help you there. I hope it is not breast cancer, only cause one of the places it likes to go is the brain. and three years ago, i lost my friend sally whom i loved very much, to lung cancer that had went to her brain, and i was her end of life caregiver. it was a horrible thing to watch her personality change and degrade, and finally one day, she even refused any pain meds. that was the day, i was finally able to convince her please to let me call hospice, which she had been refusing for several months. and she was always apologizing to me for putting me through this. my answer was that i knew she would do the same for me, supporting me in any and all decisisions i had made. i think of her a lot, and miss her teribly, cause, i knew that woman really loved me, and knew the best and worst of me, and still she loved me. i had never had a friend like that before, and don't know if i will ever be lucky enough to ever have annother like her..

    so she went to the dr to have her back fixed, and that is when they found cancer. she did a clinical trial, where they had to stop it after four infusions for all the people, because of the harm it was doing. she had stopped at three, because she did not have a port, and it was burning her veins, and giving her extreme hand and foot neuropathy. and the drs of hers kept calling her to come and have follow up tests,,and after a year or so, she refused to go back anymore. i had gone with her, because out of all the people, she was one whose tumors kept shrinking and shrinking, eventually, they disapeared completely. and they really wanted to know, why her and not the others.  and the drs were amazed, and really wanted to know why.incredibly, she lived for 10 more years, and the drs would call regularly begging her to come. she really could have advanced science and helped other people. but it was her choice. and i respected that, i couldnt understand. i didnt bug her about it, maybe once a year, i would ask her dont you want to know whats going on inside? cause they had staged her at stage 4, as it had gone to her hip too, which they had radiated. so, when i began to notice odd things about her, like she couldnt remember how to get somewhere she had been a million times, her house became quite dirty, not like her at all! and her orchids that she got to bloom year after year, began to die, and she would ask me to help her find something important like her bank card? i really became concerned, and asked her to go see the doc. no. so one weekend i was out of town, and had told her that i would be out of town, and when i got back, i called her, and she said, where were you? and that she had gotten into an accident and had a bump on her head, i ran down there, and  begged her to go to emergency. no. so i left her with icepack and aspirin, and went home and told my boyfriend. he was concerned and called her, and she said no. they were friends before he and i got together, and she loved him well, too. so, about an hour later, she showed up at my house, with her robe on, and only one shoe, and she didnt even know it. and she had no memory of me being there earlier. at that point, my boy friend got equally as concerned as i was, and sat her down in front of him. he has these pretty blue eyes, and a strong quiet way about him (i  adore him!), and he said to her, sally, we love you, and are afraid for you, wont you please go and see if you are ok? and finally, she said yes, so off her and i went.  as we went to get in the car, she went to the drivers side of my car, and i said, are you driving? and she said, no , better not. so, then she got into the back seat, and then tried to get into the passenger side that way, almost impossible in my little car. so i said c'mon sally its easier this way, and she got back out. and then we started walking around to the passenger side. and she stopped at the trunk. i said dont you want to ride in front? and she said i thought you wanted me in the trunk. My heart was breaking, and it was all i could do to not cry in front of her.

    after tests, it was discovered that she had 4 golf ball sized tumors in her brain.

    my heart was falling,falling. and turning and jumping. the brain is the seat of your soul, and really, what makes you, you. and i knew she would be changing and perhaps lost altogether. 

    and to this day, i still think that if they could have caught them earlier, that she would still be here.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    very sad/amazing story.  with my set of thinking I would have thought that the successful infusions set up the brain trouble, but, of course no way to tell unless she'd refused any treatment & got them anyway. you don't say how old she was.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    briefly:  back on topic:  dr google1 suggests making dressings ahead of time.  when I change one I make another for the next time.  he(?) also suggested not to use sticky dressings, I use 2 3X4 taped together for the initial layer which has the honey or aertismia or silver or tonight rosemary essential oil, then the larger made up dressing taped over the smaller one, then over all a cut up zip-lock baggie to protect clothing.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    I don't want to mislead anyone.  I've not changed my perspective.  & getting to a doctor is going to take a while:  it took me 7 months to get my birth certificate to the social security office, & not before the "window"  had closed.  open again in sept I think, but they possibly might make an exception for me.  then I need to get an unusual supplement ins, "F" as I don't use pharmaeceudicals.  then a further ins an everything one.  this one requires a doctor.  so then if he asks & he may not, I understand they're now quite polite, like chinese medical people. I'd probably let him look/see/perhaps touch.  but there's nothing he can offer me that I know of that which would interest me. I  am continually surprised that the others here think that the usual is the proper way,  I've never been usual.  but perhaps there are lurkers who find my posts valuable, don't know.

  • NattyOnFrostyLake
    NattyOnFrostyLake Member Posts: 377
    edited June 2014

    Good morning, Abigail,

    I'm sure this has come up but have you ever tried epsom salt baths to draw off infection or soothe pain?

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    yes.  often & for many years.  like it a lot.  I also usually shake in some rosemary oil   now that dr google 1 has helped me stop the hemhorraging baths are again a pleasure.  my drug of choice :h ot water

  • NattyOnFrostyLake
    NattyOnFrostyLake Member Posts: 377
    edited June 2014

    Great news, Abigail.

    I'll have to add Rosemary oil myself. Thanks for the tip!

    Natty Happy

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    as you probably know, years ago say world war one, there were no antibiotics, (well of course there were but they were as yet unknown), rosmary was used for that

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    3 years 4 months in from the first red show found a hard, I guess lymph node under that arm this morning.  not sore, not especially small

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    always think:  what did I do yesterday?  I seem to remember clawing at something under there, psoratic lesion?  & I did bring back a willow basket from the flea market & 2 potatoes an orange & a cucumber from the farm store in it, as well as the book & food.  no maple or cream in my oatmeal today.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    I think it's probably been there forever 

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited June 2014

    hi abigail! good morning. we are women we are lumpy and bumpy! it is getting to the point as to where i never used to be aware of my body at all, except for sheer joy at the strength i had, and it's slightly flawed beauty! Now i am so aware of every little thing, i wish i could just forget about it all.

    i wanted to tell you that my friend was 54 when diagnosed, and 64 when she died. it was june 8th that was her birthday, and funnily (not) also the day i myself was diagnosed. so now i have mixed feelings about that date. 

    i havent read about your case from the beggining so i don't know all that much about you, i only told you that story because i was hoping that if you have people that love you, that you might go and see if there is anything that might be done to spare you and your people what my friend and i experienced. she would get so frustrated with trying to communicate herself to us, and she would cry when she would think of never seeing all of her friends anymore, or her dog. i hate to think of you suffering and struggling alone with this, is all.

    you havent said what state you live in, but there is a program called "every woman counts" and that is what i had. it paid for everything! because i don't know what your income was, but for me at the time was less than $1000 a month. so it is for low income women without insurance. i am not assuming you are not a wealthy women! i am just saying it is there, if it might be helpful. the best thing about it, it was like they just asked you, you didnt even have to prove it or anything. they made it very easy. and i got top notch care. and if you only choose to have it looked at, just to know for sure, they are not gonna force you into anything against your will and desire. 

    i think it is clear to me that there are women here who care enough to try and help you, but it sounds like it is frustrating to some.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited June 2014

    i also meant to say, that program is in every state, if you qualify.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited June 2014

    in the middle of this big city i live in, one day at my breast center, there was a woman there with her friend. this was a tall and big woman, like she lived in the mountains some where, and chopped her own wood or something, she had very strong looking arms. anyway, she just came up to me and started telling me herbs and things she took, and that she refused all treatments there, and was just taking care of it herself.

    she said she did let them do mammos and ultrasounds, cause she was just as curious as they were, to see how it was doing. she said she rather enjoyed talking with them too. but of course, i guess yours , being outside the skin, it is easy to see how it's doing! anyway, she wished me luck and i did the same for her. i have never ran into her there again, but i hope that i do.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    appreciate your taking time to post.  I'm not financially challenged, I want the insurance as a back- up in case of accident.  at age 77 could easily happen.  a 10 year run, as with your friend would take me to age 87 starting from now, & 84 beginning with the first show.  an astrologer told me, )I didn't ask) that my chart didn't progress past that younger number.  will be interesting to see if sh'e correct & I do live that long.  84 is a great & actually a usual age these days.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited June 2014
  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    seems to me saying artemesia annua is better than artemesia absenthium is like saying supermarket button mushrooms are better than chaga, hen of the woods, turkey tail or rieshi

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited June 2014

    Abigail, is chaga supposed to have the best anti-cancer qualities? 

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2014

    don't think they're rated.  I've never even seen s chaga in life though I've asked my woodsman, who gets mw wood for the studio fireplace to search out some for me.  he'd never heard of it, I hadn't either before th greg marley book & the mushroom forager on facebook

  • momoschki
    momoschki Member Posts: 682
    edited June 2014

    My integrative oncologist has me taking chaga mushroom (along with other things.). I take them in capsule form.  From what I understand, they improve immunological function. They actually grow in Siberia.

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