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  • AmyfromMI
    AmyfromMI Member Posts: 241
    edited June 2014

    Ooooo!  Wish I could get rid of that guilty feeling!  My hubby is a watch whore. :D

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited June 2014

    Unfortunately, my hubby is a gadget whore and would wear cammo pants, a gray T shirt (with stains), flip flops and socks if I let him.  But he would have a kick a$$ phone, camera and accessories.    Yikes! 

    MsP

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited June 2014

    Amy, my DH is a watch whore too!!!!!!! He's gone all the way up to a gold president Rolex and then sold it when he realized he had to wear it all the time or get one of those 'rocking' cradles so it would self-wind! hehehehehe

    I do like to pick up the occasional top when we are out and about and he doesn't say, boo! He knows I'm not a big shopper so if I feel like trying something on then I must really like it. He also knows that I wear my clothes to death. 

    You MUST learn to not feel the guilt! My DH's obsessions are a LOT more expensive than mine! We have it ingrained in us to think of others first, but I'm able to get over that now my kids are married with kids of their own.

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited June 2014

    Need that ostrich picture again...

    I do not understand people who self-diagnose.  I do not understand people who would rather live with pain and a low quality-of-life, then get proper treatment.  I, especially, do NOT understand people who persist in enabling someone in their delusion that a) they, actually, have something they may not have and; b) not ask someone to get the proper diagnosis- and treatment for what they may have under the guise of "providing support" or being "non judgemental".  To NOT do something- or say something without some sort of caveat emptor would be irresponsible.  To continue to NOT do something- or say something borders on the neglectful- and abusive under any other situation.

    I don't understand a world where people will not step in and help.  I really don't.  And I don't understand a society that deems someone's life is not worth saving- and worrying about because of political correctness and a misguided sense of morality.  Do people have the right to chose their own path?  Absolutely.  I believe that wholeheartedly.  But what if that path is, so obviously, going to end in pain and suffering when it could, so easily, be rectified?  Don't we have an obligation to speak up?   How does one make an informed decision about the path one wants to take when one doesn't even know what one HAS?  When one is making a wild guess?  And when one is taking pot-shots in the dark about how to treat it?  How can you say that someone has "chosen" a different path when they don't even know where to start the journey?  How can one choose a different path when they don't even know what is wrong with them?  The logic escapes me.  And it frightens me that people think that this is okay.  It really does. 

    How can one NOT speak up?  When did an ideal become more important than a person?  I really would like to know...

    I'm going dark for awhile.  I have to think very hard about continuing to be part of community that would support an ideal over a person's life; that would persist in enabling unbelievably self-destructive behaviour under the guise of "forum rules" and "being supportive", and "choosing a different path"; that values political correctness over basic humanity.  Message me, vainsters, if you'd like to keep in contact...


     

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited June 2014

    Someone I've met on other threads is currently suspended from the boards for 3 weeks. It's her opinion that the mods make up the rules as they go. Could be. I'm not familiar with your issue, just as well. But if I'm understanding you, it's the old, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink".

    Please don't go dark forever!

  • AmyfromMI
    AmyfromMI Member Posts: 241
    edited June 2014

    Please don't leave us Selena!  I can only imagine how frustrating this is for you.  I really hope she seeks help soon.  Why would anyone NOT want to know?!  It's beyond me.  Regardless of what the diagnosis is I would want to know so that it could be properly treated (conventionally and/or alternatively).  It's nice to see that you care so deeply about her well-being.  Too bad the other poster doesn't see it that way.  Grrrrr.  Hugs to you!

    Barbe, don't get me wrong, I love all of my purchases - whatever they may be.  It's just sometimes I get that little pang of guilt that hits me hard.  Like, "did I really need to buy that?"  I'm not an impulsive buyer but I do like the "finer" things in life. lol!  I truly believe you get what you pay for.  :D

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2014

    Whoa - selenawolf, hope you weren't thrashed for trying to help someone.  Ok to go gray, but plz not black - or else we'll all have to start asking Larry for advice again... 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2014

    OK, Selenawolf, I looked up where you posted, and I read some of that thread.

    PLEASE just stay away from there.  It's the source of SO MUCH of the very BAD rap BCO takes in the online & offline world.  If bco wants to allow that kind of thread to exist, so be it.  It has nothing to do with me.  AND REALLY, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. If anyone asks my opinion of BCO, I give it HONESTLY, and do not feel at ALL responsible for the rest of it.  Respectful Insolence speaks volumes about how dangerous some of that world can be, which is why I read it.

    Be well, take good care of yourself, and remember, you can't be responsible for everyone, somes under the heading of

    Never Try to Teach a Frog to Sing.

    Blessings.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited June 2014

    The only reason I do not get too exercised over the famous BCO self-DX is that by her own account she has had BC for 50 years. Anyone who has successfully lived 50 years with untreated BC is probably going to be ok.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2014

    Momine - LOL.  See what listening to Larry can do for you (snark alert!)  She seems to need the attention, that's all.

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited June 2014

    Thank you, all.  I don't know what I'd do without my vainsters.  I just need some time, is all.  I realise that this is more my problem than anything else; after all, if I can't change how I feel about it, I can change how I react to it.  Perhaps a little distance will help me get everything back into perspective.

    It's time to go commune with the moon and soothe the Warrior Woman.

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited June 2014

    Selena - I would doubt many things about the poster you have been worrying about. To have a "BA in English Literature" she cannot form a grammatically correct understandable sentence for beans. Makes me doubt anything else she posts. Was she posting reg. B4 on the alternate thread that lead you to make this one?

    I love reading here what smart women think/say/speak/want.

    And you are not the ostrich and don't need the picture. The OP needs it for self recognition.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2014

    SW - remember Warrior Woman can only support and nurture those women who are OPEN to receiving that support.  PLZ do not ever give up Warrior Woman - she's too important as aspect of ALL our natures...

    lmg - ba in english, you are joshing us, yes?

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited June 2014

    Selena I PM'd you in case you do go dark!!

    Amy, need a purse??? Sister, it's WANT a purse! You "need" food and you "need" to sleep. Everything else is just decoration - and purses are a big part of it for me. I don't smoke or drink.....$$$$$$$$$

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited June 2014

    Selena,

    I agree with you on all counts but one; we are not a community that supports self dx. I would venture to guess that far less than 1% of our members do. You stay right here, my friend.

    Momine,

    You forgot that she contracted AIDS, at least 2x, and cured herself as well. No testing, of course, but if you believe you have AIDS...

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited June 2014

    Yes Sunni If I'm reading the right thread. I did go to Selena's profile and went off that. Seems like I remember the OP. On her bio. Yup BA in Eng. Lit from Berkeley.

    I live vicariously thru this thread. Just sayin'.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited June 2014

    Sorry, I tried to read her posts - Abigail??? I'm having trouble understanding what she's saying because she doesn't speak ENGLISH!!!!!!!! What friggin' island is she from????? She seems very happy with dr.google....

    I was on that other thread with the lady drinking the black 'salve' they are talking about. I pretty much said what Selena said and I got booted off of bco.or for 2 weeks. But then there was such an uproar for the mods to actually read my posts and they re-instated me. It's not the mods that delete you, it's if 3 (5?) people "Report this post" and then you are automatically cut off.

    People refuse to read the actually wording in a post, they just jump in and post when their knee jerks!! I recently quit a Facebook Group that I was very excited to join as it was called "Flat and Fabulous!" Right up my alley, eh?? It was even recommended to me from a bco gal. Anyway, those ladies just wanted smoke blown up their asses every time they bought a new foob but avoided recon. Huh???? What part of FLAT is that???? I questioned it and funnily enough, they took umbrage at the fact I didn't think they were "fabulous"!!!!!!!!! hehehehehehehe I was just wondering why we were spending so much time talking about foobs and foob cammies and foob weights and all that crap. What happened to being fabulous and FLAT?? So now I'm not with them, the last time I posted I was actually supporting the OP and I got REAMED by  the other sheeple that "assumed" I was against her!!! Finally the biggest mouth actually admitted, "Oh you are right" and then disappeared leaving the destruction in her wake as more sheeple jumped on the band wagon....sigh. I have NO patience for that.

    READ what is written! Don't assume you know what is being said unless you read the words! So many posts were misconstrued as some of you ladies tried to explain what you had posted. You have more patience than me! That thread is going no where fast.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited June 2014

    maybe she just has poor keyboarding skills?

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited June 2014

    wow, that is reallyawful. i read where Selena had been, and that is just horrible!

    (i am just a lazy typist and hope you will forgive me for that, i do know the rules but pretty much ignore them)

    i really really want to know how she cured herself of aids twice.

    i think i want to go find the "black salve" episode. much more fun than dishes and chores.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited June 2014

    Kathy,

    I know one AIDS cure involved eating fruit from a tree her mother had, possibly loquat. The black salve was a last ditch attempt at tx by someone who had gone totally alt. Convential tx was sought far too late. Chemo was ineffective and surgery not possible. I will say that this woman remained lovely and gracious throughout. I didn't agree with her choices but she had great spirit.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited June 2014

    Bronx, thank you. Was that the chillipaddi that they were referring to there? i did not know her, and still i am sorry that she did not try conventional treatment sooner anyway. I was watching a woman who had been posting on you tube, that had i forget, triple neg, or IBC, and was refusing treatment till it was too late too, and it WAS horrifying to watch as she tried to explain to family and friends the how and why. i have nothing against natural ways, but certainly do believe in the standard of care, because they do know how they do help, and then the more natural way after, if it pleases anyone. Another trainwreck! i was more terrified of chemo, than any other aspect of tx, and up to the last minute was ready to bolt like a colt, but... i have lived thru the misery of watching friends die from this.

    and i love my life, small and imperfect as it is.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited June 2014

    What the alt gals fail to realize...is that all the chemo crap IS "natural"!!!!!!!!! Everything comes from something "natural". Our bodies run on chemistry and electrical impulses - not fresh air and green grass!! Why do THEY think they know so much more than the specialists??? Do they fix their own cars? Wire their own houses? Fill their own cavities? Of course not!!!! They hear "chemo" and translate it to mean "chemical". But a lot of what is in chemo IS natural!!! (Yah, yah, I know not all of it...)

    In fact, sometimes the alt gals are taking supplements that are HURTING their treatment!!! Abigail even posted about something that had estrogen in it!!! DUH!!! Let's add MORE hormones to what you already think is a hormone issue....!!!! In Sunnybrook in Toronto (world class cancer centre) there are signs ALL OVER saying do NOT take these following "natural" supplements while in treatment. Tell your doctor if you are taking anything other than prescribed even if you think it is NATURAL. Natural doesn't always mean good! Why does no one get this?

    Whew...rant almost over.....

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited June 2014

    Kathy, yes you are correct about the person. She was given a very hard time when she decided to use the black salve and subsequently stopped posting. I had been pm'ing her and eventually found her obit after a long silence. She tried to explain, numerous times, that the black salve was a choice of last resort as she was so far gone that the conventional docs had nothing to offer her. She was still hounded about her "choice". Clearly, it was far too late to rehash her earlier rejection of conventional tx and I thought she should have been left alone. Some were convinced that the black salve would indeed save her and couldn't wait to show the world how amazing the stuff was. They urged her to document her progress to demonstrate this miracle cure. Sadly, that was not to be and it was difficult to see her suffer. I don't wish for her to be held up as a cautionary tale, though some may look at it that way, I just want her to rest in peace.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited June 2014

    exbronx, no one had posted on her thread and I simply asked ONE question. "What have you tried already?" She LAY INTO me and tore a strip up and down me. Apparently, I was supposed to know her whole story from the new thread I saw! Well!!! Everyone jumped on me and I was blasted for about 3 or 4 pages for "questioning" her!! I kept telling sheeple to go back and read my post!!! I hadn't said anything bad. Didn't work. They failed to care to listen.

    She was at her wits end near the end and I do believe she realized she'd made a huge mistake. One thing I was able to point out that I wasn't going to, until I got my back up, was that the Youtube "lady" she admired so much admitted she'd had conventional treatment first and this was just a complementary procedure for her!!! That is what I mean about sheeple NOT listening or reading the whole post! 

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited June 2014

    sorry that you were attacked, Barbe. You are correct in that people don't always read through things completely or emotions just take over. She was definitely on emotional overload as her situation became dire. I had an ongoing pm relationship with her for a while. I was really saddened by her passing. Again, I hope we just let her rest in peace.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2014

    And so what have we learned - STAY AWAY FROM THOSE THREADS..lurk if you're bored, but for Selena's sake ( LOL) don't POST  - and let's agree to stop talking about them here.

    Vanity, oh, vanity?  where art thou?  Hiding in barbe's newest pocket book? :-)

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited June 2014

    sunflowers,

    I understand what you're saying. I just have such strong attachments to so many women on bco, and sweet memories of those who have passed, that I find it hard see posts from someone who has decided on her own that she has bc. I know I should let it go, but it seems so disrespectful to those who have really have bc. You all are amazing.

    Caryn

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited June 2014

    I'm having problems staying out of trouble trying to contain ignorance so I am just refraining from posting much. Just not woth it anymore.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited June 2014

    me too, melissa! so i do only lurk once in a while, where i once went to help. 

    Barbe, i am so sorry that you were misunderstood, especially for only asking an innocent question.

    and Bronx, i am so very sorry that you did lose a sweet friend that you made here. there are two women i phone, not regularly or anything, but it's really nice, and i do care deeply for them & know them better than some others, but i pretty much enjoy anyone here who is clever or smart or funny here, or who simply tells the truth as they see it, and hoo boy, just try not to let it rile me.(sometimes.) 

    its funny, the only time i stay away from all the great wimmin here, is if i am at the beach. and when i am there, sometimes my thoughts wander to here, and wonder what everybodies up to, and miss 'em. You guys are GREAT.

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited June 2014

    I've had WAAAAY too much experience with trolls and other instances of Munchausen's  By Internet on other medical forums I have belonged to in the past. The red flags are obvious from the start. Truthfully, I stay as far away from those threads as I can, because trying to reason with a person who may or may not have extreme other issues will make ME crazy.

    On another note, my brittle, peeling, cracked and damaged nails (from gel manicures) have finally healed. I just cut 1/4 " off each of them and they are STILL long and strong. Thinking of doing a mani in this gorgeous periwinkle color I have.

    Have a fabulous evening, Ladies - you are all amazing!!!

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