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I was in such a state of shock I don't remember why 3 years, he talked, I saw his lips move but I don't remember hearing anything afterwards.
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I think a lot of MO's are going to longer time frames for herceptin. If it is working and you do not become resistant to it then they will keep using it indefinitely. Perjeta is one of the newest treatments out there. I was supposed to get it with taxol and herceptin also but due to heart issues from the last chemo I had to hold off. Perjeta and herceptin are both cardiotoxic. I also understand your hatred for ports. I was not happy when I had to get one for a second time and lost my hair again. It seems like the fun never ends. When will you start your treatment? Maybe you can take a quick vacation with your family before all this starts. We went on a cruise last summer and then I came back and had surgery and started all my treatments. It really helped to get away and just have fun with my family. Sending hugs and prayers to you.
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I am concerned about the cardiotoxic part of being on herceptin for so long. I feel like he basically told me I will be in treatment for the rest of my life and when we stop, the cancer will come back. Not very comforting. I really thought this was caught early enough that there will be an end in sight.
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I start next monday 6/9 but the girls are in school and I have a bunch of appts this week, can't go away no matter what. We went away last weekend and it was ok, but that was before I "knew" what I was in for.
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Basia I do think they caught it early enough that with treatment there could be an end to the treatment. If he doesn't feel that way than I would want to be put on Taxol, herceptin and Perjeta and skip he AC part. My onc still thinks that I am curable and therefore that is why I am getting the AC part.
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His PA said they think I am still "curable" but it's hard to believe right now. All this is just so much to take in. You know, you are in the same place. I am going thru stages right now, and all the emotions are getting the better of me. And I swear I am going to punch someone in the head if I hear, "you are so strong, you will get thru this". They just don't realize it is such a cliche thing to say and it is annoying after awhile. Today I actually warned my brother to step back because he was going to get hit, lol.
Thanks Jaimie, I'm still in the self pity stage,
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Sorry to hear all this!
Those comments get old. They mean well of course, but they can say that so easily when it's not them.
I hate hearing you beat it! Your all done. Uhhhh I sometimes just don't have the heart or the energy to explain that the maintenance is forever! If I make it that long! They think you are being dramatic or negative. It's true for me and for you it's scary as hell, all the "what ifs??" The anxiety is unpredictable and unbearable at times. No one can understand until they have been through it.:(
I hope things have changed a bit from last time and chemo will be bearable. Sorry your kids have to go through it to.
Hugs! Rhonda
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I know they all mean well. Just like when a couple of friends offered to get their hair cut into little pixie cuts with me. Yes, that's a great gesture, but it will look cute on them and it will grow, mine will just continue to fall out. I know its just hair and I am not that vain. It's just that its another thing out of my control. It isn;t my choice, just another thing for cancer to take away from me. The first time around I joked with my husband that I have more fake parts than natural parts on me, lol….gotta find humor wherever possible. Sorry don't mean to be so down about all of this.
My kids took it surprisingly well last night. I was so proud of them
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Basia I am here you but you will get there. It sounds like we both would have been better off with AC from the beginning for that extra 1-2%. However we can still get there it's just gonna be a little rough to get to that point (all said while in the chemo hole).
BTW, you get your first AC on the day I get my last one. So hang in there and I will be here for you if you need to chat, whine or just vent.
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great about the kids! Hang in there!!
Cancer Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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(((Basia))) Just want to send you a huge hug. I am always scared it will come back and I had the "best" kind of BC....you just never know. You deserve to feel good and be done with this sh!t at this point. No one deserves to get this more than once! Please know you will be in my thoughts and prayers.
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Jamie, I know we will both get thru this crap, it just sucks having to go thru it again. I guess right now what bothers me most is that I will always have this hanging over my head. I had finally reached a point that I stopped worrying about every little ache or pain and then this happens.
Rhonda, thanks
April, thanks
this too shall pass
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Basia- that is the worst part. I thought I would be okay and was finally trusting my body again. This time it's gonna take a while to learn to trust my body again and the thought of rads messing my recon up makes me want to puke BUT the thought of further recurrence scares me more. So I will be thinking of you Monday while I am in the chair for THP and praying that your side effect are easy.
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Jamie, I'll be thinking of you monday as well
Hope THP is kinder than AC
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Basia - Bummer girl. Another round? BTW your phrase "this too shall pass" was one my father used all the time. At the time I remember thinking it better hurry up and do that. I agree about the ...you are strong...you are cured....I wonder if we respond to that that there isn't a cure and you have no clue how strong I am or how bad this can be that they think we are just trying to elicit sympathy or what? I believe most people have the best of intentions and frankly don't know what else to say. Their hearts are in the right place. Plus I think they are also scared for you and themselves. Somehow BC is a disease that is highly contagious and if they get too close...or they view us as people with some kind of leprosy...I know far fetched but you would be surprised how freaked out some people get over this. Wait a minute we are the ones with the C word...we have the right to get freaked out.
Sending prayers your way; please let us know how you are doing.Diane
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Diane, it all depends on who makes the stupid comment. Some people I know are just clueless and repeating what they have heard on the talk shows or friends. The ones that annoy me are the ones that should know better.
First AC was ok overall, felt like crap last night but today seems to be ok so far. Actually went shopping and ran errands. The bloating is starting already, needed to go out and buy a couple outfits a size up, I look 6 moths pregnant in my normal clothes already, hoping the bloat goes down and its only because of all the fluids yesterday and the 2 gallons of water I drank.
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basia, new here. Sorry about your diagnosis. Mine came back after 7 yrs. distant recurrence.
Surgery off table at that point. I have been on chemo for 3 yrs now. This last one is the best one and I am living a fun filled life for the moment.
Yes I too have elastic waist pants, no bras anymore, sometimes dresses that just hang down softly. Whatever makes you comfy as you can be. On this chemo I can actually got back in my jeans.
It has been a roller coaster of emotions. I have told people they can walk with me, or get the heck away if they just tell me what I am doing wrong.....my husband and I had 2 bad years. All better now. He was depressed and didn't want to do anything...so I did stuff with my friends, we went to counseling, and we r close again.
I have had anxiety attacks that have come out of know where, with uncontrollable crying. This last November I was the biggest mess I have been, hubby came home and found me shaking and crying and needing to do,,,,wait for it,,,,buy and hang curtains in my daughters room, buy an accent rug for her room, mover the furniture around In there ( she just got married and I wanted her room to look romantic).
I gave away a piece of furniture in our front room, and now it looked stupid, so needed to buy something for there,,,,,,and the peace to resistance , had to sand the kitchen wood floor cause I didn't like the way they looked. All to be done by tomorrow. This was through incredible sobbing and shaking. My husband calmly looked at me and said...I am going to take a Valium, and I think you should take one with me. Lol. So,I did, and the world became a better place...that night we got our daughters room finished , including a overhead light.
Just sharing this story, cause things can come out of nowhere. We all need to be good to ourselves, and don't beat ourselves up.
My daughter was ten when I was first diagnosed, and 21 when I was diagnosed with distant recurrence
It is tough on the family. We have had great talks and have shed many tears .
Sometimes I have gotten drunk, and sometimes I see beauty in the fire.
Feel, feel,everything you need to feel , and talk when you are ready.
I am in a great place right now. Enjoying it for everything I can get out of it. One never knows when the valley will come again.
My heart goes out to all of you
Live and love fully
Susan
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Susan,
Thank you for sharing your story. It's comforting to know that I am not losing my mind completely and that this is all "normal".
I am slowly coming to terms with my situation. I do not like it, but learning to cope with it one step at a time. I realized my dear friends mean so well, wanting to hold my hand with every dr. appt, but I need to do things by myself, that's just the way I am wired. So it was hard to tell them not to come with me yesterday to meet with my oncologist, but they understood (well, maybe not understood but respected my wishes) and let me go alone so I can ask him the question as silly as they may seem to someone else that I need to know. I need to know silly things, that's what helps me deal with details. Basically everyone on my medical team agrees I need to talk to someone, so they were all thrilled to hear I already have an appt set up for Thurs. I wish my husband would talk to someone, but he won't go. He has all this anger bottled up and he needs to release it. Did your husband go talk to someone? If so, how did you get him there?
Basia
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he did finally go with me..but it was after 2 yrs. And it did make all the difference. Maybe he just wasn't ready in the beginning, maybe he was afraid of what he was going to hear from the counselor. But when he finally went, he and the counselor were best friends...lol. I, like you, need to do things by myself. That's how I function...then I let people in....but I need to come to terms with things on my own, I want to hear it by myself first......I am sure this shuts out people, but I have to handle it the best way I can. So when the counselor asked me.......so what do you need from your husband....how do you ask him for help......I just went...huhhhhhh....and my husband calmly crossed his hands over his chest and just looked at me. It was really pretty funny, but remember we were already 2 yrs into this. So I was able to see humor again. Interestingly, I think that is what turned him around. I guess he thought the counselor was going to just tell him what he needs to do for me, and what is expected from him in a situation like this. That is not what happened. The counselor pointed out that I need to make him see I need him, and can lean on him, and rely I him...not so much my nature. But by pointing it out in a nice way, how i have contributed to his emotions and place the has taken in all this, we were able to talk through stuff and understand where each are coming from. I have not changed, I don't think I have to, but we both understand the bigger picture of feelings in all this. It's a tough go. Eventually, hopefully. You get to a good place. I will be three yrs in September , and I am in a beautiful place right now. Very clear vision. We all have to die, can't run from that. I have chosen not to be obsessed with my situation, but rather live the best I can, have fun, and laugh a lot. Hope I stay in this place, but one never knows what might throw you backwards. I hope you can get to a peaceful place also. It is very freeing. I actually have some days that cancer isn't in my head, not many of them, but so cool to have at least one. Anytime you need to talk I am here. If I don't respond to this thread, PM me. I truly hope something I said made you feel less alone and a little better...I also hope I am not making this sound easy or trite..because it isn't. Even in my good place, I am still throwing some people out of my life. Life is to short, I have learned how to be unavailable for the pain in my butt people.....and I don't feel bad about it anymore.
Peace, love, prayers and hugs to you
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basia, how is treatment going ?
Susan
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Susan, so far treatment is ok. Last week was the first AC, it sucked! I had absolutely no energy. Yesterday I felt great so today I pushed myself too hard. I went to the gym this morning and totally kicked ass as if nothing was wrong. Well, needless to say after not really working out for about 2 months, my legs are killing me and I just want to go to bed. It is so refreshing to feel this way! Its a different miserable, or a "happy problem" like one of my friends likes to say. It's a happy problem because I felt like myself today and I did what I love to do and didn't let BC hold me back (too much).
I don't think my husband will go to therapy with me, not right now at least. He has such an awesome outlook on life and I think he is waiting for me to cope first so that he can next. He is so positive, he sees what others don't and I think he is afraid to show me that he isn't worried. When I met him, I was just learning to walk again after a really bad accident. I limped, I was all scared up and just an overall mess. He was able to see thru all that and see me…the person I was before the accident and the person I would become again. Back then I had such low self esteem because of all this, he made me see how awesome I was and how the scars added to my personality and made me special. Yes, he is that awesome, I would never admit it to him though, lol. He saw my first cancer as a bump in the road, he knew it was going to be ok. This time around he hasn't shed many tears, he keeps reminding me that there is a reason that I found the tumor myself and that we will get thru this together. I have to believe that there is a reason I was so persistent on finding this. My life may never be "normal" again, but I will be alive to watch my little girls grow up..God willing.
I am really lucky to have him…as he puts it, he is lucky I chose him.
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Basia, that is so nice. Great story. Teary eyed here. And I am happy you had a day to work out and get sore. I am a runner, cyclist, walker, tennis player....and whatever else fun is out there. 2 weeks ago I did the avon walk, marathon and a half, no problem doing it. Cant run a marathon anymore but I can certainly walk them. Good job getting back at the gym
. Chemo has knocked me back, but hasn't even come close to knocking me out of the game. Keeping active is important, physically and mentally. Hug the sore muscles
God bless and have a great week
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I just found this thread, and i wanted to let Basia know i am thinking of you, and hope that you are doing alright, and to tell Susan: thanks for sharing that story about your daughters room! it did make me chuckle, i have had mini-melt downs over the most absurd things, so you reminded me of me! you have a great attitude, and i am promising to be more like you, i think it just makes it easier on everyone else! and that is a good thing, i didnt have to worry about sorting out the pain in the butt people, i think EVERYONE wanted to run away from me! but the few didn't, and i love them for that. i even told the port- flushing woman yesterday, and we laughed! she said she was the same way: whiny, complainy, and downright mean! you would not think of it to see her, she has such a light in her eyes, and her crinkly beautiful wrinkly's on her face, are all from smiling, i could see that when she kept smiling at and with me! it was such a pleasure to meet her, she is a bc survivor herself, who actually got leukemia from treatments, and is doing pretty well now. its little things like that that keep me going, like her flame lit mine. i wish the very best for both of you.
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Hi! Sorry I've been MIA on this thread. Trying to get on with life as best as possible with all that is happening. Finished AC about a month ago. Had my first Taxol, Herceptin and Perjeta this last Monday. I will be getting Taxol every Monday for the next 11 weeks. I keep telling myself 1 down, 11 to go. Summer seemed to fly by. I don;t remember most of it. Trying to keep things as normal as possible with the kids.
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Hi, Basia. you are right, while in treatment, it is kind of a blur, probably a good thing! wow, you are getting taxol once a week? i just had it every three weeks. Hope it is not too rough on you, but so sorry that you missed out on a "real" summer with your kids. i am sure they had a nice one anyway. i remember when i was a kid, all i needed was to go out the door, and it was a great day! i should remember that: all i need is just the brand new day! you are still in the hard part though, but you are rapidly approaching the end of treatment.
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I get a lower dose of taxol each week instead of the higher doses given every few weeks. So far it isn't so bad. Yesterday was my 2nd one and I feel much better than I did on AC.
My kids keep reminding me about all the stuff we had planned to do which I wasn't able to do with them. We had a few long weekend trips planned that I just couldn't do. Having appts every monday made it difficult to get away…oh well. I've been trying to make it up to them whenever I felt up to it, we did a few local trips. It's the best I could do.
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Basia my son said today we didn't do as much this summer as we normally do. I felt bad
but when I was feeling well I was playing catch up.
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Jaimie, it's so hard when you have little ones, they try to understand, but they don't get it. All we can do is play make up when we are feeling up to it. I haven't told them because I don't want to break anymore promises but my husband and I plan on taking them skiing every opportunity we get this winter to make up for the summer.
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