Recurrence after bilat mastectomy?

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  • bertilda
    bertilda Member Posts: 26
    edited April 2014

    I hope you are right

  • bertilda
    bertilda Member Posts: 26
    edited April 2014

    i dont think i had stitches though

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2014

    Even if you had staples or tape, you still had what they call "internal stitches" which held the tissue together before the skin was laid over it. Trust me on this one.

  • cider8
    cider8 Member Posts: 832
    edited April 2014

    Jaimie, I just want to say Hi here, too.  It's such a stinker going through it all again.  

  • bertilda
    bertilda Member Posts: 26
    edited April 2014

    Ok , I am thinking you are right, the nurse paractitioner said she felt more lumps but I cant find them

  • bertilda
    bertilda Member Posts: 26
    edited April 2014

    My appointment was cancelled by surgeons office , he had an emergency, now wait til May 6

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited April 2014

    bertilda I am sorry you have to wait so long to see the surgeon. The waiting and not knowing is hard, try not to worry. I know it is easier said than done. (((( hugs))))

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2014

    berilda, that does mean that the surgeons office doesn't consider you an emergency...so that's good. If they had passed you on to another doctor that might have raised red flags, in my book. Maybe the Universe is sending you a message that it's really all okay....

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited April 2014

    Cider thank you. So I actually talked to someone that understood how the pathologist had to report things and it was 2.2 BUT the only positive is that I shouldn't have a problem getting perjeta. 

  • 3rdtimenow
    3rdtimenow Member Posts: 256
    edited May 2014


    Hi everyone, I am brand new here, but unfortunately not to breast cancer. This is my third go round and three different kinds of cancer. My first in 2001, second in 2011 and a bilateral mastectomy with reconstruction in 2012. I was just diagnosed with my third on Monday. One tumor was removed another is so close to the implant that they have had to schedule an MRI to place a guide wire, and hopefully not rupture the implant. This is scheduled for June 12. If this is positive, they may have to remove the implant take more tissue and perform another surgery to put in a new implant. Has anyone had to have a second reconstruction, this scares the heck out of me, as I just started to get some relief from pain after 2 years. Thanks in advance for any info.

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited May 2014

    3rdtime, I am so sorry that you have to deal with this again! I did not have total second record, but after 9 years of the sane implants, I did have them removed, had some revision work done on the right and then new gummy silicone implants put in. I took a week off from work, but really the surgery was not that big a deal for me. I hope you can keep you implants and that they can easily remove the remaining tumor.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited May 2014

    3rd time, well that just SUCKS!!!! Praying that the surgeries give you a better outlook, sweetie! Please keep us posted here as we follow you on your journey. How the heck did they find an area so close to your implant? A lump? How very, very frustrating as you seemed to do your best to remove any breast tissue. My heart goes out to you.

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited May 2014

    3rd time, that really really sucks. I have had 2 times.....that was bad enough. Hope they are able to fix this easily for you and that you never have to think about cancer ever again.

  • 3rdtimenow
    3rdtimenow Member Posts: 256
    edited May 2014


    Thank you ladies, for your replies, sometimes it is a very lonely place.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited May 2014

    3rd time - Thinking of you.  I'm just finishing up tx for my 2nd time.  BMX in 2011 & ALND in 2013.  The BS was able to remove 18 lymph nodes last year w/o getting hitting the implant - just barely she said.  The RO wasn't sure if I rads would cause capsular contracture w/the existing implant due to the close tolerances.  So far I've kept my implant.  I sure know where you are.  I was ready to toss it in and have everything yanked out when I first got the diagnosis.  We'll all keep you in our thoughts & prayers on the 12th.  Please keep in touch.

  • 3rdtimenow
    3rdtimenow Member Posts: 256
    edited May 2014


    Thank you minus 2, it is a really scary proposition, I didn't even think about what impact radiation might have on the implant. Just have to stay positive, I guess. Thanks so much for the support.

  • 3rdtimenow
    3rdtimenow Member Posts: 256
    edited May 2014

    Hi Barbe, It's funny, I found the first lump myself, 4 different doctors said it was just scar tissue, but we did an MRI, and that is how we found the second one. He was hoping to just watch it, until the first came back positive, so now we have to go after the second, because it has similar properties. Thanks for the support

  • Basia
    Basia Member Posts: 790
    edited June 2014

    3rd time, wow.  I can't imagine how you must be feeling.  I just found a lump in my scar tissue too and they all said it was scar tissue until my BS biopsied it just so I can relax about it.  My  PS was in the OR when my BS removed the scar tissue and tumors last week just in case she ruptured the implant.  luckily she was able to maneuver around it without harming it.  But, swapping out the implant isn't really that invasive.  My PS said it would take them an extra 15 minutes in the OR.  That being said, I have had my implants swapped out twice already for various reasons and it wasn't that painful or long.   No drains or anything like that, just some soreness.  I think I had to take it easy for a few days but once the stitches came out I was able to resume normal activity. 

    I hope they can get to it without moving the implant, but even if they do, trust me, it isn't so bad.  

  • 3rdtimenow
    3rdtimenow Member Posts: 256
    edited June 2014

    Thanks Basia, hopefully it won't come to that, what bothers me is my BS said the PS would have to move muscle around again and I imagine that to be painful. It helps to hear your story though, and as you know the waiting is really the worst part.

  • 3rdtimenow
    3rdtimenow Member Posts: 256
    edited June 2014

    Hi everyone, one thing I want to stress to women is that a mastectomy does not insure you will not get cancer again. I was very naive and thought I was sitting pretty, and free from worry. Well you don't hear about it much, but 1% is a pretty big number, especially when you are the 1%. I don't wish to scare anyone, because I certainly understand the toll uncertainty takes on us. I just want to inform people because I was so shocked when this happened to me and I don't want that to happen to others.  Another thing that CONCERNS ME GREATLY, it that doctors don't recommend regular screening after mastectomies, it seems to me, we should be having yearly screening with MRI's and ultrasounds I had nothing done last year and would have had nothing this year either, if I had not felt the lump. The MRI found two lumps and I would have been walking around fat, dumb and happy with cancer waiting for me in the wings. Ladies PLEASE be proactive in your care. Prayers and good wishes to all of us. Stephanie

  • Basia
    Basia Member Posts: 790
    edited June 2014

    Stephanie, you are so right! We should be getting scans annually just for reassurance that nothing is brewing.  Just a month before my recurrence diagnosis, I was given a clean bill of health! Can you imagine how I felt when the biopsy came back positive.  We should have more than just a physical and a bunch of questions.  

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited June 2014

    Stephanie:  My MO is retiring this year.  Major angst since I'm still finishing treatment for a chest wall recurrence or mets (no one is sure which) after a double mastectomy 2 years before.  He said he would recommend at PET/CT at least once a year but other docs at this clinic might be resistant to that.  He did say I could go elsewhere to get the testing done.  Whoppee.  You can bet I'll be pushing for regular testing!!

    Basia - yup, I was all clear & NED in October 2012.  Recurrence in February 2013 when I found a lump by my collar bone.  I too don't want to scare anyone, but we DO need regular testing.

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited June 2014

    yep. I agree. I was one of those that fell into the 2% range after my BMX in 2000. Had a recurrence /new primary in 2012. After my BMX, I had no chemo, no rads, no follow up by anyone. They basically just cut me loose and said "go have a nice life, your cancer is gone".

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited June 2014

    My MO told me that having bmx would reduce risk by 90%.   That is certainly not a slam dunk.

    And bmx does nothing to prevent mets. If the horse is out of the barn, bmx won't help. 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited June 2014

    Yep, that`s why we are gathered here on a recurrence thread.....no one is safe. Bren, I was like you - good-bye! Demanded to see an onc and she even said I fell between the cracks but it was too late to start anything as it was 9 months after surgery. I am on Metformin now, for diabetes and I know  it helps keep the cancer away somehow, but like hrf says, the horse is out of the barn. 

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited June 2014

    Barbe -I actually saw an MO before & after my BMX for DCIS - but the SNBs & margins were clear and everyone told me the same - go have a wonderful life, no other treatment needed.  Sigh.  Just hope I can find a new MO who feels like I do.

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited June 2014

    I could be totally wrong but my understanding is that only surgery is recommended for DCIS. My friend had 6cm tumor, had mx, and nothing else. Margins were only 1 mm but doctor said that was enough. She went for a second opinion and was told the same thing.

    That doesn't mean that it can't return in a more aggressive form down the line. Guess they just go by statistics but who wants to be a statistic?

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited June 2014

    hrf - you are correct & that's what I had - BMX for DCIS.   2 years later I had IDC in chest wall & auxillary lymph nodes so this time I got chemo, more surgery, more chemo & rads.  Hope your friend is one of the lucky ones.

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited June 2014

    MinusTwo. There is no telling what will happen. This disease follows no rules. It really sux that you had the bmx but still had recurrence. Really not fair! 

  • 3rdtimenow
    3rdtimenow Member Posts: 256
    edited June 2014

    Hubby and I just returned from celebrating our 42nd.. wedding anniversary with our children and grandchildren in Disneyland, we had a wonderful time, and enjoyed the grandkids so much. Tomorrow is my second surgery in 3 weeks, I am hoping these memories will help me through my surgery and whatever treatments lie ahead. My best to all of you.

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