Alernative treatments for canker and cold sores.

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  • Ang7
    Ang7 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited June 2012

    Hey Eve~

    My sister used a topical steroid (for a long time) and she did start to have some side effects.  They may have been due to the fact that she used it for a long time.  She said that the skin area became thinner?  I am not that knowledgeable on topical steroids...not trying to cause trouble just thought I should mention it.

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited March 2014

    I was looking up canker sores/implants and this thread popped up. I forgot I started such a thread. Since my first dx with cancer I've struggled with complex canker sores. Before cancer, rarely ever had a canker sore, and if I did it was small one on the inside of my cheek and went away in a few days.

    It seems I have a bout of them six months before each of the last 3 cancer dx. I' don't think there is a connection, but found it interesting. I've learned a lot about canker sores since posting this thread. I have had about 4 major complex canker sores the last few months. This last one has been on the tip of my tongues now going on a month! I'm losing weight. I dread eating, and talking. My whole tongue feels raw and inflamed. It makes me feel physically drained or weak. You just don't feel well. What I used to help the sores at first no longer works.  

    I had a filling fall out so thinking it might be one of the causes of the sore, I went to a dentist and had the tooth filled. I also had my teeth cleaned. The dental hygienist put silver nitrate on the sore. She thought it would help. My tongue still hurts. It still throbs. Although I think the canker sore is dead, I think my tongue is traumatized by all I've put on it. I don't know. I saw my doctor Friday, who gave me a anti-viral medicine to see if it helps. I haven't taken it yet. If my tongue doesn't heal by the end of this week, she wants to send me to a ENT. It does look slightly better, but feels sore and tingling feeling. It hurts like a sore or burn on your tongue.

    Cause of canker sores...a few doctors says they are a herpie virus. Other doctors said they are not a virus, but happens when your mouth is injured by biting on it, or jagged tooth, or too many acidy foods. The ENT said this as well. For me it is eating too much chocolate, tomatoes, oranges, almonds (nuts) and when my immune system is compromised I get canker sores. I used to get cold sores, but not anymore. I find it somewhat interesting that instead of cold sores, I'm getting canker sores. It seems if my immune system was compromised, I would get the cold sore herpie virus too. Next time I get it I will go in and have the canker sore biopsy to see if it is a virus. The doctor said I have to come in the day I break out with it or the test isn't effective.

    What I learned thus far is there are a lot of good stuff out there that seems to work for most. My friend's husband, a naturalpath, said to put charcoal on the end of your tongue to draw it out. I tried it right before I went to the dentist. Probably not long enough, but stopped since my tongue is so raw. Oil pulling is supposedly good. I've been doing this off and on. Super Lyzine, I've been using, but usually it is not working. I've tried a few herbs. I use magic mouthwash and a few other numbing products that work for a very short time. I hate using them because it helps a little, but I don't taste food so well, and it still hurts. Dental paste worked the first time or two. Not anymore. It is hard to get the dental paste to stay in one place. I have a few other suggestions I've yet to try, but will. 

    Where do you buy watermelon frost? I can't find it in the natural food stores. I also need to order to cankersorebegone stuff.

    I feel for all those who have chemo, and immune suppressant meds, who suffer constantly with canker sores. Not a virus or was it because their immunity was shot? Still in question to cause of mouth sores.



      



  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 618
    edited March 2014

    I'd like to chime in about the lemon balm though I've not used it for this, since lysine is so effective.  I'm just going to quote heavily from The Natural News

    "A large German study showed that lemon balm was extremely effective at treating herpes simplex infections. In the study, which included three hospitals and one dermatology clinic, the lemon balm treated group did not have a single recurrence of the infection. Other studies have found that lemon balm reduces the healing time of both genital and oral herpes.

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/042942_lemon_balm_health_benefits_antioxidants.html#ixzz2ux0C8NZF"

    Also this:  "A 2010 study published in Toxicology and Industrial Health looked at lemon balm and its ability to reduce oxidative stress in radiology staff members who are constantly dealing with radiation-induced stress. The study showed that taking a lemon balm infusion of 1.5 grams in a 100 mL drink for 30 days had a positive effect on reducing lipid peroxidation and DNA damage. It was shown to improve intracellular antioxidant (catalase, superoxide dismutase and glutathione peroxidase) status and reduce DNA damage in these radiology staff members. (same article)

    Some other things it's supposed to be good for are relaxation and "these compounds offer profound antibacterial and antiviral properties and protect the lipid membrane of cells."  One of the most exciting things I learned about it is that it helps with AD/HD, a disorder I've struggled with all of my life.  I had some in my garden this past summer but moved and didn't harvest it and now I'm kicking myself.  It makes a very pleasant tea.  Oh and they're researching it for alzheimer's help as well.  Is this stuff cool or what?  

  • crabbiepattie
    crabbiepattie Member Posts: 108
    edited May 2014

    Interesting info on this thread.  I used to have terrible canker sores but never any cold sores, so maybe I didn't have herpes simplex.  Canker sores are worse than the ouch-bit-my-cheek sores, although those can become canker sores.  Once I got a big canker sore on my tongue and couldn't talk for several days.  I got canker sores on a regular basis for years (like 20 years) until I went camping and forgot my toothpaste; the new canker sore I had went away in about a day.  So I switched to toothpaste without sodium lauryl sulfate (SLS) and now I haven't had a canker sore in years.  If I ever use regular toothpaste, I rinse, rinse, rinse and that seems to work too.  I did have some bad mouth sores during chemo but they still were not as bad as canker sores.

  • lightandwind
    lightandwind Member Posts: 754
    edited May 2014
  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited May 2014

    I grow lemon balm & it is really good in iced tea. When I put the tea bags in the hot water I like to put lots of big sprigs of spearmint & lemon balm in with them and let it steep, then take the sprigs out with the bags & dispose of them.

  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 618
    edited May 2014

    Exciting news about the lemon balm--I got a blister recently right after having some dental work so I took the lemon balm drops in some tea and in 2 days it was gone.  I have never had a blister leave as quickly as that one did.  It beats the lysine by a mile.  And yes light and wind--I think I'd better keep taking them, eh?  

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited May 2014

    Haven't posted here in awhile, but wanted to post to say I found something that prevents canker sores from forming.

    It is called Canker Cure...herbal. I actually purchased at a pharmacy. Tiny little jar. Once I feel the itch and sore, I brush on the liquid Canker Cure. It goes away.

    I had such bad complex sores. I had a hard time eating and talking. Now gone!

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