Starting Chemo in April 2014

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  • Longislandl8y
    Longislandl8y Member Posts: 145
    edited May 2014

    Good morning ladies.  Day two (or three depending how you look at it - was infused on Tues.) and feeling better than after infusion 2 in this stage.  I credit it to the Aloxi and Emend added to my IV this go around, in addition to Decadron & my own add of Pepcid.

    MMTA - I too had sleep issues with the Decadron, but not as bad as yours.  I slept 10pm til 3am and have been up since.  I guess that's the payback, but I think it's worth it. 

    Everforward - I feel the same as you post treatment - famished but nauseated at the same time.  I am not feeling as much nausea this time which is good on the one hand, but also means I'll probably be more apt to give in to the hunger, and gain even more weight! lol, oh well.  Also, my nausea drugs (Decadron & Zofran) run the same pattern as yours.  My nurse said we need to stop the Zofran after 3 days because constipation can become a BIG problem.  Not sure about the Decadron but I believe it's a steroid, which tends to run only 5 days for most ailments...

    Golfin - Don't go out in the sun without strong protection! My MO didn't even tell me this until my husband inquired and then MO said, "Oh yes! You are very photosensitive on chemotherapy!" Thanks Hubby.  These doctors, lol.

    Question for all - do you see your MO at your infusions? I haven't seen mine since the consultation and I've had three treatments already...

    Oh, and Cold? No offense to anyone else, but you are surely the coolest one in our thread.  Thank you for continually making me smile.  Your pirate pic is fabulous! SillyHeart

  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited May 2014

    cold. Love the pirate look!

    Funny my onc nurse is a rocker and we started chatting about music yesterday. I told him that I was the "angus" in my ac/dc trib band. He asked if I have the schoolboy suit and if I did the angus moves so next infusion I'm going in the suit with my guitar to freak him out!!  I'll take pics!!  Lol

    I meet with my MO the day prior to my infusion and have my blood work down as well

    As for anti nausea meds here is my regimen:

    At infusion

    - 1 8mg tablet ondansetron 

    - decadron given as IV while I'm in the chair

    At night day of infusion

    - 1 8mg tablet ondansetron 

    Day 2 and 3

    - 1 8mg tablet ondansetron at breakfast and dinner

    - 1 4mg tablet dexamethasone at breakfast and dinner

    I also have my "just incase pill" which is 10mg prochloperazine.  I take those every 4-6 hours as needed days 1-3. I took 3 yesterday

    So far no vomiting and nausea yesterday was better than first go round. Today so far so good

    Now I wait for my nurse to call for my neulasta shot 

    I was told to use spf30 sunscreen. I he's ombrelle but will try to hang out in the shade this summer. :-(

    Tonight is my ranger game so hope that I don't nod off like yesterday!  I'll Aldo try to get a walk in

    Wishing all a great day!  

  • mikishelley
    mikishelley Member Posts: 83
    edited May 2014

    I too read an article about taking 2-5 low dose aspirin post chemo and the benefits have been good. I am definitely speaking with my MO about this.

  • mikishelley
    mikishelley Member Posts: 83
    edited May 2014

    LongIsland - I seee my MO before every treatment, then my bloodwork and finally my infusion. I assume protocols are different for everyone though.

  • mikishelley
    mikishelley Member Posts: 83
    edited May 2014

    A good resource is the Think Pink Live Green pamphlet on this site. I downloaded it and it has great "researched" ideas to help prevent recurrence and help keep us all healthy.

    Day two post chemo and I feel like HELL. Fatigue is much worse after round three for me. Leg cramps and I am so Moody everyone is treating me like a queen while I just give the "Hate You" eyes. So glad my family is doting on me because anyone else would throw me in front of a bus today. Hope everyone else is doing ok!

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited May 2014

    Day 4 after second infusion.  Tried going out shopping in my new wig.  Hard to walk.  Muscle aches and fatigue.  I'm in for the day.

  • ColdInCanada
    ColdInCanada Member Posts: 95
    edited May 2014

    Longisland - I can't believe you think I'm cool! This is a VERY good day for me! :) I grew up as the nerdy weird kid who was bullied from K-12, and then continued on as the nerdy Academic through 9 years of University. I have NEVER been cool. Who knew all it would take was a scarf and an eye patch? lol! Thanks so much for the compliment! I think all of you Ladies are the coolest, bravest, most inspirational people on the planet. :)

    Regading MO visits, I never see mine on Chemo Day. But I DO see him the day before Chemo to discuss any med tweaks, blood work, etc.

    mikishelley - my SEs were the WORST ever this time around (Round 3). The nausea was marginally better, but everything else was worse. The fatigue was a nightmare- I just slept and slept, and when I wasn't sleeping I was grumpy because I needed to be sleeping. I have heard that Round 3 is the worst, and then things gradually improve (why?). I don't want to get my hopes up, but wouldn't it be great if that was true?

    You know what I love? All the pictures showing off our hairless heads. You BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL women make me smile every time you post a shot of your naked scalps. Because if you've got it, flaunt it, right? ;)

  • Tinkerbells
    Tinkerbells Member Posts: 211
    edited May 2014

    forgot to ask - is anyone else having ringing in the ears? Subtle. It definitely there for me.

    I will add it to the list of things to discuss with MO. (Sigh)

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited May 2014

    I'm not having it but the dr warned me that taxol can cause that.

  • EverForward
    EverForward Member Posts: 242
    edited May 2014

    LongIsland, no offense taken at your comment about Cold. Agree. :)

    I don't see my MO on infusion day. Instead I see her the week after and we go over the SEs. I do blood work the day before the infusion and at the follow up appointment with the MO the next week.

    Feeling almost human today! Took a Zantac this morning, so maybe that helped with the stomach problem.

  • LovebeingNana
    LovebeingNana Member Posts: 134
    edited May 2014

    LongIsland on chemo days I get blood drawn first then I always see my MO, he checks me out, asks about how my SE's were and then sends me to the infusion room. 

    Ooooooh I am not looking forward to #3 which is a week away....it has a bad reputation. :(

  • MommyQ
    MommyQ Member Posts: 117
    edited May 2014

    Love seeing all the photos of y'all! You all look great!

    It's appearing that the pirate knot is very popular this year! It's my favorite scarf knot too! Here's a pic my hubby took of me in the chair for TC#2 on Wednesday with my pirate look (sans patch). :) I still have about 5% of my hair, which was buzzed with a #4 razor and just looks weird. I might ask hubby to shave it down shorter.

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    mikishelly: Sorry you feel bad today. Hang in there and get some rest...it'll help!  I think that pirate ship party would be a great idea for a get-together for us! It'd be great to meet each other and party once we are all done with chemo and can all drink again. :)

    BTW, I see a lot of posts on nausea, so yesterday, I asked my nurse what anti-nausea meds they were giving me. I get an IV injection of Kytril followed by a 20 minute drip of Emend right before my T&C. It seems to work for me.  No nausea yet...fingers crossed.

    LongIsland: On infusion days, I get blood drawn and then in a half hour, I see a nurse who goes over my blood work results and SEs to see if anything needs to be tweaked, and then go to the infusion room next door. I don't see the MO before each infusion or even in between infusions.

    Wishing everyone minimal SEs and a good day! Don't over-do it ladies. If you're tired, take a nap. You're allowed to! :)

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited May 2014

    Cold - you are the coolest :), and we are lucky to have so many supportive folks in the April group.

    Great pic, mommy!

    As for seeing the MO - I see mine before each infusion. She actually called me yesterday, concerned about my sugar levels in the bloodwork - said steroids can elevate it, but she is having my GP look at it as well. I admitted to carbo loading of pancakes and maple syrup prior to last bloodwork  -  that might have elevated the sugar numbers ...

    I still do not get a neulasta shot, or any follow up blood work other than the day of infusion.

  • Longislandl8y
    Longislandl8y Member Posts: 145
    edited May 2014

    Thanks for all the feedback on seeing the MO.  My bloodwork has been great all along so maybe that's why I don't see him. I will ask at my next infusion though, when I WILL see him.

    Cold, it's not the picture that makes you the coolest - but it surely enhances it, lol.  It's your awesome personality & you were probably just too cool for those bratty kids to wrap their heads around.

    Miki - boo, sorry you're hurting.  I am doing okay but was totally wasted the night of infusion.  Slept in a drug induced sleep for sure.  I am sure the new anti nausea drugs have helped quite a bit for me this round.  But who knows what tomorrow or even a couple of hours from now might hold?

    Love your pic, Mommy.  And I dig your sandals too! :)

    Football, feel better and LGR!!!

  • ColdInCanada
    ColdInCanada Member Posts: 95
    edited May 2014

    Looking GOOD MommyQ! The scarf is gorgeous - it's all the GLAM and CHIC I was talking about. :)  And can I just say I LOVE your bag and I wish I could have it? 

  • MommyQ
    MommyQ Member Posts: 117
    edited May 2014

    Thanks, Sharon, LongIsland, and ColdInCanada! I definitely DID feel Hollywood chic with my scarf and sunglasses being chauffeured to the hospital by my hubby for infusion day! :D Since I lounge around in "slacker" clothes at home, I thought I might dress up a bit to go out, even if it was just to go sit in a chair for hours in the hospital, LOL. Sorry, Cold, I gots to keep my tote bag. It's the perfect size for schlacking all my stuff to my treatments. :)

  • mikishelley
    mikishelley Member Posts: 83
    edited May 2014

    MommyQ love the scarf.

    Thanks everyone for the well wishes. I'm having beets and a spinach salad, lots of water, and then meds and bed hopefully for a good long nap!

  • Swissmiss
    Swissmiss Member Posts: 111
    edited May 2014

    Am I just being crabby?  Or would you be frustrated too?  Typically, on my infusion days, I have lab work, then 30 minutes later I have an appointment (made at least 2-4 weeks in advance) with my oncologist, then I go over to infusion at the hospital down the street.  And typically, I spend about three hours, yes THREE hours at the oncologist's office...just waiting most of that time.  I have never had any real issues, so no special care or attention, no weird symptoms or things to discuss.  He checks my labs, does an exam, and I'm sent over to infusion.  A typical day has me spending an hour in the waiting room, then another 90 minutes waiting in the exam room, and then, give or take, about 30 minutes with the oncologist.  Thoughts?  Am I crazy with SE's, or would you be thinking about changing doctors too?  My oncology appointment was set for 8:45 am on Tuesday, but it was after 12 when I finally arrived at the infusion department.  My MO gets defensive when I make reference to how long I wait, and I'm just not sure I am happy.  Thoughts?

  • JanetP1507
    JanetP1507 Member Posts: 46
    edited May 2014

    Longisland I see my MO every 3rd treatment. I saw him on May 9th and will see him again on May 30th.

    Swissmiss Wow, I get my lab work done the day before chemo, just takes about 5 mins, then I go in the following afternoon for my infusion. I hardly ever have to wait longer than 5-10 minutes to get either one started. I would be crabby too if everything was taking that long!!! 

    I just called the treatment center, they said my labs from yesterday "look great" so I will be heading off to "the chair" in a couple hours! Today is my regular weekly low dose of Taxol.

  • applepop
    applepop Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2014

    Hi ladies. Thanks so much for posting your experiences/side effects with chemo. I go for number 3 tomorrow. Feeling a bit more nervous this go around. I am not quite sure why. 

    All you ladies that have posted pictures are gorgeous. I love the scarfs. 

    Linda, I think that you are near me. Are you near Nokomis? 


  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited May 2014

    Trina/Swissmiss - I don't think you are being crabby at all.  That is an unreasonable amount of time to have to wait - especially every time.  I would probably look for a different MO.

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited May 2014

    Swissmiss - Crabby would be my middle name! (well it is)  I go to hospital 1 hr before my appt. to get my blood work done and then I I go to my appt with my MO.  I see him for most of my visits,, on time.  Once every three appts I see the PA.  Your schedule makes an all day affair out of your infusion.  That would drive me crazy and exhaust me. 

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited May 2014

    I either see my MO or his PA each treatment.  I only see the nurses on lab and shot days but they go over side effects and report them to the MO if it is something they think he needs to know right away. 

    Swiss Miss - I get to my appt at 9:15 and am in the chair for infusion by 10:30  - I think it is long too but sometimes their are peeps having issues that the doc is attending too in the infusion room and sometimes the labs just take a little longer.  I have labs the day of treatment.

    But I am in the chair for about 5 hours ughhh.  So I just know on infusion day no matter what it is gonna be a long long day.

  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited May 2014

    Hi Ladies,

    Cold - Loving the pirate pic!!  May have to duplicate that one for my grandkids.  They will love it! 

    Can't remember or find the name of the person who literally got up off the table and ran out of the hospital, but you go girl!!!  This is the best story EVER.  Loved the follow up pic of the kid running.  Miracles do happen:-)!

    To Linda and others who posted pics.  How the heck do you do that???  Took some pics in the chair today on my cell but can't figure out how to get them here.  Another breezy Taxol for me (my 4th), and have pics of how I ice my feet and hands to prevent or lessen neuropathy and nail loss - for all of you who have Taxol in your future.

    Decadron rash - yep, that what my MO's office calls it.  Usually goes away in a few hours and gives you that rosy glow w/out blush.

    Sleep issues - I had really bad sleep issues while on AC & far less with Taxol.  During AC I discovered that OTC Unisome works wonders for me.  I only take it now the night before Taxol and night of chemo day because I'm taking 2 Decadron (primary cause of my sleep issues) on those two days only.  Bendryl is in almost all OTC sleep aides EXCEPT Unisome.  Benedryl pumps me up instead of putting me to sleep.  I always check with my MO before taking anything and she's OK with the Unisome and generally not OK w/sleep aides in general, particularly prescription ones like Ambien because she's had lots of patients who've become dependent on them post chemo.

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited May 2014

    Mommom - I email the pictures to myself from my phone - I have a smart phone or I connect my phone to my computer with a usb and download the pictures - once they are on my computer I just click the little box picture thing in the menu bar above the box that you type in and select where to get the picture from and it puts it on here

  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited May 2014

    Thanks Linda.  Will try that later, obviously very computer challenged:).

    OK my chemo brain has officially checked in.  My comment above about the woman who was going to have a risky procedure done in the hospital was told just as they were beginning that it wasn't necessary!  She literally got up off the table and ran like hell out outta there before they changed their minds.  I'm following so many threads; this was is on page 834 from FierceBlue - on the Calling on TNs thread.

  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited May 2014

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    Success!  Didn't notice the photo icon in the bar.  Thanks Linda!  RE icing.  Since I'd lost one big toe nail w/AC (very unusual) & about to lose the other, I was determined to do everything I could to prevent or lessen neuropathy and more loss of nails.  My MO's office has noticed success with many of their patients who've tried the icing of feet and hands.  I ordered the $$ Elastogel gloves & booties, but they only stay cold for about half an hour at most.  You're supposed to start icing about 10 min. before, during and 10 min. after the Taxol infusion.  I used Lisa's method of making the alcohol & water double freezer Ziploc bagged slushly icy concoction & they are actually a lot colder than the Elastogel!.  I started with the booties/gloves and switched about 20 minutes later to the first set of homemade ice packs.  You should put your feet and hands in some kind of a thin liner (I used the paper liners that come w/the Elastogel, but Lisa just put her hands and feet in a plain empty Ziploc bag.  Several of them got less cold as the time went on, so switched them with a back up set.  Feet - one GAL size ice pack on bottom and top of each foot.  Hands - one QT size ice pack on bottom & top of hands.  Ratio - 1 part alcohol to 2 parts water.

  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited May 2014

    Forgot to mention that we kept the ice packs from slipping with small adjustable bungee cords.  Where there's a will, there's a way.

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited May 2014

    24 hours post AC #4..... And feeling better than any other round so far.  Tired and foggy brained but I actually got out of the house to buy some veggies and seeds for my garden ( have to start late up here).  Flowers and growing my own produce have always been my happy place.  Day 3 is usually when trouble starts but I am so grateful for a good day!  

    I must say you are all looking fantastic!  

    To 

  • Longislandl8y
    Longislandl8y Member Posts: 145
    edited May 2014


    Clarrn, glad you're feeling well.  We share the same happy place :) My gardens are my church.

    Swissmiss, yes you are more than justified in your crankiness over time wasted on such a stressful day to begin with.  I typically wait 5-10 min in the waiting room, get my blood drawn.  Wait about 10 minutes for that to come back.  Then we get started on the infusion.  I am there around 2 - 2 1/2 hours total.  I got back the next day and am in and out for Neulasta shot.

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