Chemo in May 2014

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  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited May 2014

    I will have A/C and Taxol. I can change my days off since we are open every day and I have a commission only sales position so I'm going to keep my Mon/Tues day off for now and see how I react to everything. Looking at the responses, it does look like everyone is different. Linda, you really took Claritin for 10 days? That gave you 4 days off of it before you started taking it for another 10 days? Lot's of Claritin! 

    Again, thanks for the responses.

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited May 2014

    Hi Homemom- yep I took 10 days of claritan - that is what the nurses told me at the center to do - but I have chemo every 3 weeks -so I actually have 11 days off it.

  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited May 2014

    Linda - aaah ok, I will be going every two weeks. I have my info appt on Monday with the nurses, I'm going in with a lot of questions!

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited May 2014

    Homemom - I do the same - I make a list of questions and when I go in for blood work or see the doc I got my list ready - that way I don't walk out forgetting to ask something.  My PA laughs when I pull out the list - First appt for treatment it was two pages long LOL - but they answered all of them and didn't get upset about it.  

  • JKLB
    JKLB Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2014

    Chemo #1 down.  As many have said, it was anticlimactic. Thank God!  Lots of anxiety this morning, but once we got started it went like clockwork. The port is a blessing. Even though I'm still sore, it was flushed and blood was drawn before I knew it. The numbing cream was magic. Then Taxotere ran in for an hour. I soaked my fingernails and toes in ice water and had ice in my mouth. Taxotere can damage your nail beds...who knows if the ice would prevent it....it can't hurt. The Cytoxan ran in for an hour and a half. No problems at all.  I went in with constipation from pain meds from surgery. Still having that,but that's it. I feel blessed!  Day one has been very good. 

  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited May 2014

    Today I went for my post op appt with my BS. I have this glue over the incision for the port. I asked her if I should start putting neosporein on it to break down the glue and she told me absolutely not. I thought later, will this glue keep the numbing cream from working?? 

  • Chev0814
    Chev0814 Member Posts: 10
    edited May 2014

    well ladies and gentleman... Treatment 1 down...5 to go... Very anticlimatic...I have dry mouth and sore throat... That's about it... On TCH regimen... I know this is just day of but still hoping for minimal SE...I hope all is well with everyone... Hugs...

  • JKLB
    JKLB Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2014

    Chev0814 Awesome to hear!  Me too so far.  Someone on the discussion board recommended Ginger capsules three days before and after. I did that an believe it has helped.  

    Homemom I didn't have glue,but had the steri strip still on. Cream still worked. The needle will go in the middle of the port. Mine was just below my incision. I would ask your MO about it. 

    Good thoughts to all!

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited May 2014

    Hi all.

    Day 6 after first infusion today. Let me tell you, day four was hellish and day 5 was pure hell. My husband said over the weekend I was never awake more than an hour, and then would sleep for several. The bone pain from the neulasta was very much like with influenza, only with that you can take Tylenol and break your fever! This stuff doesn't go away and I really found no relief. I have a very tough time with pain meds so all I take is Ibuprofin. Destin is also my new best friend. Yes, Desitin diaper rash ointment. Six days of passing pure acid definitely leaves its mark. 

    I'm calling today "recovery day". Although I'm still really tired, I can at least get up and do a couple of things, sit on the couch fold a load of laundry, etc. One of my kids is so very concerned and in tears whenever he sees me. There just is no way to explain to him that Mom is ok. It doesn't help that my port site looks like I was in a battle so it kind of freaks him out.

    Just working on staying hydrated now, and eating a few things. Hoping the rest of the days get better until June 5th when I do this all again. One down, three to go!

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited May 2014

    lespring, was that one down and three to go?  Only four?  I am sooooo jealous.  I have six TCH.  Six never really seemed like a big number before... but now its huge!  I feel so good now, i can't imagine going back and doing it again.  Anybody have any strategies for how they mentally prepare themselves for round 2?

    btw, how is everyone's hair doing?  I was told that on my regime, day 15 is typically when hair starts to fall out, and it happens suddenly.  For me that will be Friday.  So what happens, I wake up to a pillow full of hair? 

  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited May 2014

    I went to the PS today for another fill - did 80cc's today then gradually increase to 120 until I get to 900cc's (currently at 480 now).  I asked the nurse about the glue on the port site and she said my port is actually just below the incision so it won't matter. 

    I have 4 treatments of A/C every other week, and then 4 treatments of Taxol. Looks like no one else here is taking the same treatment as me? I'm washing my hair with Nioxin - can't hurt! I wonder what you wash your head with when you no longer have hair???

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited May 2014

    Yes, the regimen I'm on is 4 cycles, treatment every 21 days. I think it doesn't matter, 1, 4, 10. They're all horrible. 

    I also was told day 14 for hair loss with my regimen, which puts me at Weds next week. My scalp is starting to feel weird, but that could be my imagination! I don't really care about my hair (which is why I already shaved it off) I have really crappy hair and am hoping it comes in better this time around! Curly, more of it, a different color, I don't even care. I just want it *better* than pre chemo. LOL

  • writinghelps
    writinghelps Member Posts: 88
    edited May 2014

    Had my first infusion today. Very uneventful. I'm doing 4 rounds of TC. One down three to go.  Does feel good to be a quarter of the way done.  But I haven't hit bottom yet so we'll see.  I have feared the lack of motivation to walk into the second treatment.  It's like I'll walk in and hand them a big club and say "Here, beat me with this."

    Jason, I was just reading about the side effects of the steriod I'm taking (dexamethasone) and one side effect was hiccups.  Some of these drugs cause the craziest side effects.  Are you taking that steriod?  I only take it for 5 days around infusion day.  Is that your course too?  And if they went away was it after you stopped the steroids?


     

  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited May 2014

    I wonder how they decide what drugs to use. Some of us look like we have the same dx yet are being adminitered different drugs.

  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited May 2014

    Hi Writing Helps,

    I had 3 DD rounds of AC every other week, a 3 wk break (some pesky but still manageable SE's delayed next treatment by an extra week).  Now I have weekly Taxol every Thursday.  My 4th of 12 Taxol is this week, and so far, I find the Taxol much easier than the AC.  I was lucky and never got nauseated on the AC and still exercised daily.  On Taxol, much more energy with exercise and appetite much better.  Didn't really need to lose any weight, but did lose 5-6 lbs on the AC - gained back a few of those pounds.  For me, so far, very doable.  Good luck to you!!!

  • writinghelps
    writinghelps Member Posts: 88
    edited May 2014


    HomeMom, I think it is quite the science.  I think it depends on BC type, stage, lymph involvement, Her2 status, age, whether it is a recurrence, and possibly regional (I think doctors on the east coast treat more aggressively than doctors on the west coast).  I am always surprised to see those with no node involvement being treated with chemo but usually they're Her2+.  But not always.  So then BC type, age and whether it's a recurrence might factor in.

    I was offered the other treatment that is dense dosed and every 2 weeks and involves 3 drugs and a port. Did I say I don't have a port? I have mixed feelings about this b/c I don't want one but I had nodes removed from both sides and they stuck me in the arm today. It's probably fine because I only had a few removed and I have not seen any lymphedema symptoms so far, but I digress.

    My MO said the dense dose is more effective, but has more side effects.  I think it's recommended more often for more aggressive cancers.  Mine was not aggressive and small and only in 1 node.  So that may have something to do with why she recommended TC for me. Although mine is also a recurrence and I'm 47 so who knows?

    Wendy

  • amyo
    amyo Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2014

    Had my first chemo treatment today of AC - so far so good.  I even went for my bi-weekly TE fill at the PS. Stating to feel  little lightheaded. I ate dinner with my family and drinking a lot of water. I had the anti nausea in my IV as well as 2 presecriptions for nausea.

    Homemom, it's look like we may have the same treatment I need 4 ACS followed by 12 doses of Taxol/Herceptin.

  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited May 2014

    Writing, that makes sense. Very interesting. My MO said I am young enough (53) and healthy enough to go every two weeks. I know I will with the A/C but I don't know with the Taxol if it will be every 2 weeks, I think it is. I will have 4 of each and then rads on my arm pit area since they found it in 3/29 nodes. Amyo I will go to the PS just before I go to the MO for treatment for the same thing - TE fill. My MO did tell me it was aggressive treatment. These doctors I have leave no stone unturned so I feel like I'm in great hands.

  • jasonalun
    jasonalun Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2014

    Writinghelps, yes, I'm on the same steroid. I'm not sure if it causes the hiccups, because I think mine were more triggered by my gas indigestion, but it's possible it played a part, as I'm off it now (I only take it for three days after treatment) and I'm not having them anymore. But I'm also now on Nexium for the acid reflux and gas and that's helping so it might be more that than the lack of Dex. 

  • BooBearMay2014
    BooBearMay2014 Member Posts: 9
    edited May 2014

    Chemo treatment plan training completed today.  First cycle on Thursday - 6 cycles of TCH plus Pertuzumab followed by 6-12 cycles of Herceptin.  The information from all of you here is great and really helpful. I am ready to take control back and start to kill this disease in my body. 

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited May 2014

    In my case, the decision to treat with chemo was up to me based on my oncotype and recurrence risk without tamoxifen. Because I have a very high risk of stroke I'm not a candidate for the drug, and my risk of recurrence without it is 25%. My husband (who's previous wife died from BRCA 1 & 2) and I weighed our options. In the end, we both knew that if I had a recurrence 5 years down the road I would have always wondered if the outcome would have been better with chemo. This way, even if I develop cancer again, I know I did everything I could to prevent it. It was a tough decision.

    Thank God I got a port! They blew three veins trying to get a line in for the port placement. LOL Finally the dr. came down and did it with ultrasound assist. The poke into the port prior to infusion is nothing compared to the digging around they do trying to get a line in me.

    In the end, our bodies are all different. Although many of us have similar cancers, the genetics of them are different. They come from our original cells and so my cancer cannot be identical to Sally's or Sue's. We have to go by the information given to us by our doctors and the research (if any) we've managed to do ourselves. We can second guess ourselves to the cows come home, and many of us will.

  • Lakegirl1
    Lakegirl1 Member Posts: 316
    edited May 2014

    In my case, I am only 43 and have 6 & 8 year old girls.  Technically, they say my nodes were negative, but there were micro mets. MO said it was totally up to me, my onco is 6. But, when presented with...If this were your mother/daughter/wife....he said he would tell them to do the chemo.  He says he wouldn't want to look back and okay the "what if..." game. 

    I hate every minute of the chemo and get mad every time I even think about losing my hair (my scalp is tingling as I write this).   BUT, I will do whatever it takes for all the time in the world I can get to be here for my girls!!!  

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited May 2014

    Yes, I am 46. I have 10 kids. The oldest 5 are adults and raising their own kids, the youngest 5 (ages 17, 13, 11, 9, 9) all have Down syndrome. While our goal for each of our kids is independence, they will all be with us a lot longer than is typical. Four of them are adopted and never lived in a family until coming home. We brought the most recent home just two days before my diagnosis. She is learning that living in a family means mom is sick. I hate that. I can't wait for this to be behind us so I can show her what its really like to have a Mommy. 

  • Lakegirl1
    Lakegirl1 Member Posts: 316
    edited May 2014

    Lespring...she just sees you as her mommy, keep your eye on the prize...the fun you will have as a healthy family...

  • writinghelps
    writinghelps Member Posts: 88
    edited May 2014

    My friends, ya'll are all sharing good words tonight.

    Peace,

    Wendy

    (Yes, you guessed it, I'm from the deep south)

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited May 2014

    Unfortunately my daughter doesn't know what a mommy is. She is 9 years old. She has never known a mommy or daddy. To her we are  no different than the hundreds of institution caretakers she's had throughout her life. I just lay down more, and there is better food. I wish it were different, but its not. Had I been diagnosed prior to our adoption we wouldn't have been approved. Its a horrible situation to bring a child from a traumatic background, drag them to the other side of the world where they can't understand the language, learning to bond with a family, into one with medical crisis, having outside caretakers (about the biggest no-no there with international adoption because they kids need to learn who family is. Every new person in the door is a new potential parent for them.) It is awful, and tonight of all nights its really getting to me. I'm usually a pretty positive person, but this one area is the one that I absolutely hate.

  • MomMom
    MomMom Member Posts: 523
    edited May 2014

    LeSpring,  I think you're awesome!  Your children surely know they are loved and that's the most important thing.  Positive vibes your way that the chemo becomes more tolerable.  Couldn't agree with you more, we are all different as are our bc's, and we're all doing the best we can for ourselves to make sure we beat this. 

    Writing helps, Even though I'm stage 1 and no LN involvement, I've got triple neg which is extremely aggressive with a high 2 yr recurrence rate.  Thus, all the big guns were recommended - chemo & rads.  My MO gave me the stat that chemo + rads improve my odds by a whopping 25% over just rads.  That was a no brainer for me. 

    Best to everyone.

  • writinghelps
    writinghelps Member Posts: 88
    edited May 2014

    I had my Neulasta shot today.  So far so good.

    I have a question that you guys may not be able to answer because it seems most of you have ports.  When I got to my first chemo infusion yesterday and they found out I didn't have a port and that i had lymph nodes taken from both sides (3 and 4 for a total of 7) they weren't sure what to do.  I was surprised.  In the end she stuck me on my wrist on the side where 4 was taken but no cancer was on that side. 

    Today I have some swelling in my sternum.  I think the nodes were all taken under the arm.  (btw, for what it's worth I had a BMX with no reconstruction).  Is this lymphedema?  I had a little swelling there right after surgery but it went away and wasn't too large.  This is much bigger, but not too bad, but not sure what I should do about it and of course it's 9pm where I am.

  • noonrider
    noonrider Member Posts: 464
    edited May 2014

    Had check up today. Counts were good but I'm running a fever. (hmmm no wonder I was opening windows all day and my husband going around closing them. Thought I was having hot flashes. That and crying. UGH) VERY dehydrated because of the constant liquid acid passing through me every 40 minutes. Got a nice IV rehydration nap in the chair.  I am still in severe pain from the Neulasta. Dr. informed me I "might be one of those few who have the pain throughout treatment." Oh yay me! I drew the lucky straw AGAIN!!! Also, I have lost seven pounds in seven days. Changed the plan a bit, by adding "IV fluids" to day 6 of each cycle. Also will be getting more fluids this Friday if I'm at all dehydrated because she doesn't want me getting into trouble over the long holiday weekend. 

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited May 2014

    writinghelps - I would ask your BS for a referral to a LE specialist and get that checked out - it may be just carry over swelling from your BMX - but better safe than sorry.  I know you don't have a long treatment schedule so a port might be overkill - but with have nodes removed on both sides I really think you should consider one.  The surgery is really only a couple of days of manageable pain and they can do it just a day before the next infusion if you have a hard time getting one schedules earlier.  They can do blood draws from it also - if you get a power port- and that will also reduce your Lymphoderma risk.   I had nodes removed on both sides and a long treatment schedule with the Herceptin - but knowing what I know now I would have requested a port even if I wasn't going to have Herceptin.

    Lespring - are you taking the Claritan to help counteract the bone pain from the Neulasta shot?  If not, call you MO and ask if you can.  Just the regular Claritan 24 hr - not the Claritan D.  I use it for 10 days starting the night before my shot - I do have one or two days of some slight pain - the worst being in my sternum and hips - but it is manageable with an Aleve and doesn't effect my quality of life those couple of days.

    Day 2 after treatment #2 and I feel pretty good - so far just tired last time I was good until day 3 - then was pretty much out of commission for days 4-6, Day 7 start feeling better and days 10 - 20 felt about 80 like me.   Hope you all have minimal SE days while we battle this dang BC

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