Starting Chemo in April 2014

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  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2014

    Ddkath the 2.5 hours are for the tracers to be injected and move around. 

    Lake girl make sure you take colace with the Zofran. My favorite anti nausea med is compazine. It knocks you put but I figure if I am feeling sick I don't want to be awake. 

    So I get to work tonight which will be the first time without my hair. I am not looking forward to this at all. 

  • Golfingirl
    Golfingirl Member Posts: 40
    edited May 2014

    Good luck to all who are having chemo today. I hope your SE are minimal.

    I go this Friday. I feel a bit like a lamb to slaughter as I start to count down the days before my next treatment. I've been feeling pretty good this week except for my energy. I get exhausted easily and everytime I push it, I pay. Hard to find that balance. When I'm feeling good, I want to be doing everything I did before I started chemo. Not possible. I'm normally quite active and am trying to continue but clearly I can't. I'm reducing my work outs to just activities outside with friends. Although I plan on swimming tomorrow morning before work like I used to 5 days a week. It will be my first swim since starting chemo and I am sooo looking forward to being in the water. I don't even care if I do 10 laps. I just want to be in the water. It's more mental than physical for me.

    I had a CT guided bone biopsy last week. I have a spot on my pelvis and some on my lungs. The biopsy itself wasn't too bad. They sedated me quite a bit so I would hold still. I assume I'll hear the results at my pre chemo app't with my oncologist on Friday. If the pelvic spot comes back positive, then they assume the lung spots are also positive. The lung spots are too small to biopsy. My pelvis is still a bit achy but tolerable. I did a short hike (3 hours, zero grade) on Sunday in the Smoky Mtns this past weekend. A girls trip to a friend's cabin. Chilly but gorgeous. Had the fireplace going all weekend and just relaxed. I didn't realize how much I needed that. Can't wait to go back. I am going to take advantage of that open invitation to there and another friend's lake house. It's amazing the generosity of friends/family. I'm trying not to say "No, thank you. I'm fine." I am forcing myself to say "Yes. Thank you. I would love that." I'm realizing that I do need my people around me and it's the best advice I can give others. It takes a village to heal a cancer patient.

     

    Thanks to everyone that contributes to this forum. You are all so inspiring. Brave. Strong. Beautiful.


     

  • MommyQ
    MommyQ Member Posts: 117
    edited May 2014

    linda505 & jaimieh: Sounds like the LGFB program has a standardized program and bag and just the goodies in the bag vary depending on what donations they receive.  That's cool.  Some of the other posters here said they didn't have a good experience, so maybe the program is just now getting more organized??? I dunno.  

    linda505: That's too funny that the LGFB teacher tried to rub off your real brows! All the ladies at my class still had their brows too, so we all just used the brow pencil to fill and shape.  I still have all of my eyebrows, although when I was plucking the straggler hairs last week, I noticed they pulled out with little force and didn't hurt at all! So, while it was nice to pluck with no pain, it was an indicator that the rest are probably going to fall out soon. :(

    Lakegirl1: My MO told me that my acne is due to the Dexamethasone, so if you're taking that, it might be the cause. I broke out all over my upper chest and my upper back a few days after taking it. It's about cleared up today, just in time for my next dose of Dexamethasone! Sheesh.

    Ddkath70: Yes, I had the bone and CT scans. The injection is for the bone scan and has to be injected 2.5 hours prior to the scan. For the CT scan, they'll have you drink the special smoothie 2 hours, 1 hour, and right at time of the CT scan, plus they'll inject you with the tracer (?) at the time of the scan.

  • Tinkerbells
    Tinkerbells Member Posts: 211
    edited May 2014

    golfingirl, I will be with you in the chair this Friday- AC #4 and scared out of my mind as #3 did a number on me. Plan is to take all those steroids / Meds that I so hate to take and hydrate like crazy. Will be last AC and then I move on to taxol, herceptin, perjeta weekly for 12 weeks. Good luck to all of us.

    Sandra 

  • LovebeingNana
    LovebeingNana Member Posts: 134
    edited May 2014

    Thinking of all of you in the chair today! You are another step closer to kickin' it!!!

    I have had a few irritants on top of everything. Bad case of folliculitis all of my scalp…finally calmed down and then yesterday I broke a tooth! When I got to the dentist he told me the tooth next to it had a crack and would be the next to go so I was in the dentist fair for 90 minutes prepping for 2 crowns.  Other than that I am enjoying the "in between" and feeling pretty good. Next treatment is the 29th so I am enjoying the good days while they last. 

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited May 2014

    I am not sure if this is against the rules but in reading back I found this post.  It may help those of you who are just starting chemo.

    Sep 12, 2007 03:51AM Angelflight wrote:

    Hi ladies,

    I'm from the chemosabe march cruisers.  Finished my chemo about 10 weeks ago. (Taxotere, Adriamyacin, Cytoxin) or TAC.  Your questions and concerns are valid ones, but don't be so terrified.  I actually breezed through chemo with little side effects.

    Emend is not given too often these days although it's one of the newest of the chemo drugs for anti-nausea.  Most insurance companies will not cover the cost of it since it's the most expensive.  Decadron will do just as well and is covered in almost all cases.

    We were all terrified the first time in the chair, but I had no problems whatsoever.  Made a lot of nice friends there as well and we passed out jello and munchies to all the others around us.  We always had our own little party, and took an ice chest with lunch and drinks. You can get up and walk around and to and from the bathroom as well.  You just unplug and your pumps are battery operated too.  We even went outside sometimes for an hour or so.

    Take a blanket if you want to sleep although most centers have those as well.

    Here are a bunch of great tips and if you start on them right away you can curb some of the problems you'll encounter after chemo starts.

    Get started brushing your teeth with Biotene Toothpaste as well as using Biotene Mouthwash in place of your regular toothpaste.  It will keep you from getting the mouth sores so many before us have gotten.  If you do get mouth sores, have the onc write you a script for Magic Mouthwash.  I say prevention is worth a pound of cure.

    Stock up on Senekot.  The first few days after chemo you will usually be constipated.  If you just take one every night before bed you won't have a problem.

    Stock up on Emodium.  Usually after the constipation is over you will follow with diaharrea.  The Emodium will work wonders for most, but those who can't control it have your onc. give you a script for Lotrimin.  Also yogurt with active cultures is a big help. Just one a day is enough.

    Be prepared for your hair loss.  Most of us never knew that when the hair would start to thin it would hurt.  That's the time you want to do a final buzz.  Besides it keeps you from shedding like a dog everywhere you go.

    Most of us don't recommend wigs unless you absolutely have to have one.  They're scratchy, itchy and hot.  Scarves and cool hats are much more comfortable for going out.  Ebay is a good source for scarf lots if you need some.

    Be prepared for weight gain.  Yes I said weight gain.  The steroids you'll be taking for the anti-neasua will work wonders but not without it's price.  Expect anywhere from 20-50 lbs before chemo is over.  If you're one of the few who doesn't gain that consider yourself one of the lucky few.

    Expect lots and lots of sleepless nights.  Have the onc. write you a script for Ambien.  Most of you are probably already experiencing lack of sleep even before chemo; it just gets worse.

    Don't be afraid of all of the medications you'll be taking.  It doesn't last forever and all of them serve their purpose.

    Be prepared for metallic tasting drinks.  Some say flavored waters work well although one time it will and the next time something else will work better.  Drink at least 64oz of liquids per day if you possibly can.  It will help flush the chemo faster and you don't want to encounter bladder or kidney problems. That includes, jello and any liquids you drink, not just water.

    Don't be afraid of your port hurting when they insert into it for chemo.  I never had mine sprayed or used a cream and never had it hurt once.  The nurses are experts in doing it.  Some people complain they can see theirs more than other people.  Consider yourself lucky as they say the closer they are to the surface the less problems.

    Taxotere and Taxol are notorious for causing water retention or nails turning dark.  Never happened to me and some say they put their hands in ice water during chemo to prevent it.  It's your call.

    I can tell you this.  When I did my chemo I was petrified the first time.  But I only had a bad bout with diaharrea once until I found out the yogurt was my cure.  Other than that I had a little fatique once in a while and that was it.  Can't say that's what will happen to you, but know it's possible if you don't dwell on it all the time.

    Hope some of this will help you ladies.

    Good luck,

    Angel

     

    I do have one question for anyone.  Does anyone here experience urgent need to urinate as a side-effect?  I am sure we all drink a lot of water but when I am standing (working around the house) I suddenly know that if I don't get to the bathroom right away I will not make it.  It doesn't happen when I am sitting or for some reason when I am out.  Weird I know but thought I would ask.


     

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited May 2014

    LovebeingNana - UGH!  I don't know what I would do if I had to pay for 2 crowns right now.  So sorry that happened.  Someone told me that refined food grade coconut oil was good for nursing the scalp.  I don't know if it would help but it is cheap and worth a shot.

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited May 2014

    Thinking of you all in the chair today! One less to go!  I get my last AC tomorrow and don't wanna go...lol.  But I had a great weekend with my family hiking the hoodoos SLOWLY and digging dinosaur bones.  My mom is here this time to take care of me :)  Even at 30 there's nothing better than your mom when you are sick!  

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited May 2014

    brigadoon - I too have to pee immediately.   No UTI so not sure why.   Hope that goes away!

  • MommyQ
    MommyQ Member Posts: 117
    edited May 2014

    rosemamma88: Welcome. Sorry to hear that the cancer is back after a BMX. I too thought that after a BMX, the chances of reoccurrence would be really low or nil. But chemo & rads should get rid of the rest. Regarding the port, my MO told me that my chemo drugs (TC) are rough on veins and didn't want to have to do an IV for me 6 times for the infusions, due to the damage chemo would inflict. That's why she had me get the port.  I don't know which chemo drugs they are recommending for you, but like Linda505 said, you'll get the Herceptin since you're HER2 +, and you'll probably be glad to have the port instead of having a new IV done each time for a year.  It looks a bit weird but it's pretty easy to cover up and is only temporary.

    clarrn: I bet you're glad you're on the last AC infusion! Yay! That's great that your mom can take care of you, too. Hey, I'll be in the chair tomorrow too, and also really don't want to go! Only TC#2 for me, but like you said, I can cross another one off my "to-do" list. :)

    Good luck to everyone!

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited May 2014

    clarrn - I did read one other post several days ago about a woman who was at her chemo appt and didn't make it to the bathroom in time.  Nurse handled it well for her but still unsettling for her I am sure.  I drop everything and RUN!

    Thanks for responding.

     


     

  • MakeLemonade
    MakeLemonade Member Posts: 153
    edited May 2014

    Sitting in the chair now for A/C #3. Getting the steroids and anti nausea meds now. "Red Devil" push coming soon

    Nice and quiet here today. Was a mad house 2 weeks ago! 

    MO and I discussed my timeline and we decided to go with 4 treatments of Taxol every 4 weeks instead of 12 weeks weekly as I have been tolerating the A/C relatively well. I have a major event that I would still like to do mid October and this should get me done as I still have 6 weeks of radiation to do after this. So happy that he is so responsive to my needs!  There should be no difference in risk or effectiveness.  

    Good luck to everyone in the chair today and those going later in the week. We can do this ladies!!

  • mfoti610
    mfoti610 Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2014

    Best of luck to everyone starting their chemo in April.  My thoughts and prayers are with each and every one of you!

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited May 2014

    Cheering on the Easy Peasy Tuesday Ladies!

    Day 6, post tx No. 2. Doing ok.  Supposed to go to dinner with friends to celebrate my birthday. Wish me luck.

  • Longislandl8y
    Longislandl8y Member Posts: 145
    edited May 2014

    Easy Peasy! Merg, Mmta, Linda - ready, set, go! I don't go until 3pm.  Once we get today done, we are one less on the agenda! As my bff says, "BE ARMY STRONG!" I'm sure I'll be bitching and whining for the next several days over SEs, but today I'm staying positive and upbeat! Smile

  • jhodro
    jhodro Member Posts: 240
    edited May 2014

    Hello all! I'm in the chair as I write this. I just started the Taxol…my 6th of 12. Halfway point, yay!! I have to say I really really didn't want to come here today. Not sure why. Just want to be done with all of this!! And, I've been told the Acne is from the steroids, but I'm not sure. It's raging on my head (still) and face, chest and shoulders. I'd say that is one side SE that we should all be able to do without. Although, I know that it could be much much worse.

    I have compiled list of the top ridiculous things that have been said to me (mostly co-workers who mean well, but are completely clueless)...that people should just never say to people who have cancer:

    1. What are your chances? (Yes, indeed, I got this question, more than once) I had lots of responses going through my head but I refrained.

    2. Wigs are all the rage in Hollywood. You'll love having a wig. (Seriously? Spoken by a girl with hair down to her butt, I am quite sure she has rarely, if ever cut that hair!)

    3. My [grandmother/distant/insert relative or friend name here] had cancer. She/He died. (Really? thanks for the pep talk!)

    4. Why are you still coming to work? (Well, Einstein, I still need MONEY!)

    5. Are you feeling sick? (Ugh. I just can't really respond to that.)

    6. How are YOU? (spoken with the inflection on YOU and with the hand on the shoulder…again, maybe someone means well with this question, but exactly what response is expected with this question - the list of meds I now take? The SE's? The "I feel awesome even though I have cancer?" 

    I have to say the majority of people are amazingly supportive, but to those few, who are just so socially awkward, they don't know what to say - I suggest a quick google search - what to say to someone with a cancer diagnosis: http://www.cancer.org/treatment/understandingyour...

    Or here:

    http://www.thesilverpen.com/breast-cancer-informat...

    Hope you've enjoyed my sarcastic little rant. :)

  • EverForward
    EverForward Member Posts: 242
    edited May 2014

    Sending good thoughts to those in the chair today. We should come up with an April Chemo theme song.

    Here's an odd side effect that I haven't seen anyone else mention. About 5-7 days after the infusion, I get crazy hunger pangs. I have been lucky to avoid nausea, but these hunger pangs are something. Even if I'm eating well throughout the day I will feel like I am STARVING. I noticed it a bit after round 1, but am really noticing it this week after round 2.

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited May 2014

    Same thing happened to me yesterday!  They had put me asleep with all of the Benedryl and Ativan and when I had to go I could not move quickly enough!  It happened twice!  Thankfully nothing like that has happened since.  Glad to hear I 'm not the only one!  I thought I might wind up in Depends indefinitely!

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited May 2014

    Ever, do you think it's the steroids?  I just went to the drug store to pick up my meds and somehow wound up with a bag of cheddar popcorn,something I never eat!  I gained 4 pounds in 3 weeks.

    Have to watch it since when I was on CMF I gain 60 pounds.  I still have 35 to lose, two years later.

  • Footballnut
    Footballnut Member Posts: 742
    edited May 2014

    hi all

    Had my bloodwork today. And like a baby I cried before the nurse poked my port but once she did it I was so relieved!!  I felt NOTHING!  I'm loving the port!!  I was told that I would get a call if tomorrow's chemo has to be delYed. No call several hours later so I'll be in the chair tomorrow at 9. Round 2 of FEC

    I met with a genetic counsellor today and will have the testing done. 8-10 weeks for results

    I met with my MO. He thankfully remains of the opinion that I will do well and move on quickly. I hope that he's right. A year of herceptin doesn't sound great but that just gives me a reason to plan a big party once it's all done!!

    I'll try and text from the chair tomorrow. Hopefully I don't get too nausous this time or throw up!  

    I still have thread hanging around from the stiches around the port which will be removed tomorrow as well. Truly looking forward to that she said sarcastically

    Hope all are doing well. We shall get through this and move on!!!!!

  • mikishelley
    mikishelley Member Posts: 83
    edited May 2014

    Footballnut - It is nice to know you don't have to wait. I always found waiting the hardest thing to do! Good luck tomorrow!

    I just finished my third round of chemo, with one left I received some scary news. My company which has been wonderfully supportive will end my insurance as of June 30th. Yikes! I spent most of my time at the infusion center sending the nurses to get the social worker. I still have to have my final exchange surgery and the PS wants to wait four weeks after my final chemo. My next is scheduled June 10th. That just does not work out on the calendar. I have phone calls into the PS and MO hopefully we can work this out!!!!!!!!! I really just wanted to come home and sleep instead I am by the phone hoping and praying for some miracle answer.

    On another note has anyone heard that their MO suggests keeping your port in for a year after your treatments are done? 

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited May 2014

    mikishelley - I have heard of several people who were told to leave their ports in for awhile.  Never heard a period of time though.  I think it is really your option. 

    So sorry about your insurance!  That really sucks.


     

  • ColdInCanada
    ColdInCanada Member Posts: 95
    edited May 2014

    Hello Beautiful April Ladies!

    I hope those of you who spent today in the Chemo Lounge found it as boring as ever, and that your SEs will also be incredibly dull. :)

    Thanks for all your lovely compliments on the scarf! It was a gift from a friend who lives in Florida and shares my love for all things Disney. It's so funny though - at the Cancer Centre I see all these beautiful women in their late 50s and early 60s wearing scarves. And they all look so GLAMOROUS and Hollywood CHIC. And so I try it, and all I see when I look in the mirror is a little girl who tries to play dress-up and ends up looking like a pirate! LOL!

    Speaking of GLAM and CHIC, EverForward - WOW! You look AMAZING in the scarf! :) Oh, and YES to the intense hunger. Every round so far. What gives? I swear I'm going to gain 20lbs even with the nausea. Blah.

    Brigadoon - I was super worried about what I was going to find under my hair - like a misshapen skull? Or some weird scars? Or a freaky tattoo my Mom didn't tell me about? In the end, it was pretty anticlimactic. There is one teeny tiny chicken pox scar, and that's all. My kids were actually a little disappointed there wasn't anything cool under there. ;)

    Linda - the wicking nightwear tip is wonderful. THANK YOU! I have been hot and cold every night since this last infusion, and no sleep means more nausea for me. I told my husband about it, and he promptly went online, found a store that sells the stuff, and ordered me to buy some. Spend your money on new clothes? OF COURSE, Darling! :)

    Dkath70 - For this round (Round 3 of 6), I was given Zofran for Chemo Day and the 4 days afterwards. I also have Stemetil to take as needed. The Zofran is working...MOSTLY. I definitely feel better than last round, but improvements could be made. I HATE the Stemetil. It makes me feel..."wrong" - light-headed, woozy, super tired, unfocused. Basically I sleep through the entire day on it. So I stopped taking it, and used Gravol instead, which isn't as effective, but I'd rather be queasy than feel what Stemetil did to me. My only advice with regards to nausea is to keep pestering your MO until he/she gets the meds right. I have 3 more rounds, and next round I'll once again be pushing for something better. The GOOD NEWS is that the nausea (for me) doesn't last weeks and weeks. It's really only about 4 or 5 days that it's bad, and then it fades. 

    clarrn & footballnut - I've got my pom-poms out and ready for you Ladies tomorrow! 

    jhodro - Oh my goodness! Number 4! It's awful, but I laughed my head off - it's funny cuz it's true! 

    Regarding the whole anti-oxidant/vitamin thing, what I'm getting is that for those who were doing it before, carry on as usual. For those of us who could barely remember to take a vitamin once a month, probably during chemo isn't the best time to start. It makes sense to me. I know I'm definitely going to be looking at it more seriously once chemo is over, and I'm taking all your tips and recipes with me. :)

    About the acne, I know that the steroid can definitely cause it, but so can the Taxotere. My MO was super upset when I had my HUGE breakout (think WORST ACNE EVER) all over my face and neck, and no one told him about it. The onco nurse on call told me it was from the steroid and sent me on my way. My MO said NO, mine was an allergic reaction to the Taxotere. Just something to keep in mind and mention to your MO, just in case. 

    Anyway, after writing a novel for you all, I'm off to enjoy some more sunshine. I've finally emerged from Round 3's Dark Place (man, it is UGLY in there), and I'm sitting in the Light. Whew. Just 3 more times.

    And can I just say that I love you Gals? No matter how awful I feel, someone here always has something kind or funny to share, and it makes me feel better. So THANK YOU Chemo Buddies. You all ROCK. :)

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited May 2014

    ColdinCanada - You should get an eye patch to complete the look!


     

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited May 2014

    Just got back from the MO.  I guess that some of the swelling and pain from round #3 was actually lymphedema.  I thought it was just the steroids :( Trunk and arm.  Boo.  Pity party beginning.   I guess I was trying to live in the "this is just a bad year and next year everything will be like it was" mentality.   I was not expecting this 'souvenir'.  Another specialist to see and more appointments.  I know that there are lots of things to help me deal with it but for today I am just sad.  And worried.   It's my dominant arm of course.  Going to head over to the LE forum for tips.  Another thing to watch for ladies!

  • mikishelley
    mikishelley Member Posts: 83
    edited May 2014

    Clarn, So sorry about the lymphedema. That really sucks. I am sure you will find a great group of ladies for advice and support over on the other forum. 

  • Longislandl8y
    Longislandl8y Member Posts: 145
    edited May 2014

    Cold, so glad you have emerged from the dark place.  I expect to be heading there in around 24 hours or so.  I had round 3 today which was uneventful.  I did get some new meds this time which will hopefully help with the nausea.  I got Aloxi & Emend added to my IV.  The nurse said it's "gold standard" medicine & it should definitely help with the nausea.  In addition, I will start Zofran and Decadron tomorrow. 

    It's so weird and surreal when the nurse puts on the gown and gloves as she prepares the poison she's about to pump into our bodies.  Ugh.  I try and just remember who we're trying to poison ("Die little f*ckers!"). 

    Linda, Mmta & Merg - I hope your infusions were Easy Peasy!

    Half way there and loving that.

  • MommyQ
    MommyQ Member Posts: 117
    edited May 2014

    SharonDe: Happy Birthday! I hope dinner goes well for you.

    mikishelly: I didn't think employers could just end your insurance. Isn't that illegal? Discrimination? Anyone here know? Sorry I don't. As far as the port, you can leave it in as long as you want, but you have to get it flushed out every 4 weeks if you're not actually using it. I think some folks keep it in for future blood draws. I haven't decided what I'm going to do since I won't be done until August.

    clarrn: Sorry to hear about the Lymphedema. I'm sure your specialist will be able to help you with steps to prevent it in the future. I read that one of the things you can do is to sleep with that arm elevated above your heart to help with the fluid drainage. Good luck.

  • mmtagirl
    mmtagirl Member Posts: 509
    edited May 2014

    Hi! Just a quick check in for the easy peasy Tuesday girls.  Chemo lounge was in eventful as always.  

    Big surprise was when my MO brought up 12 weekly taxol after next round of AC

    Had it on my list to talk to him about.  Ughhhhhh, puts another damper on plans and managing through some work and  big personal events.  Also means the TEs stay in until October.  The gift that keeps on giving.....

    More nauseous tonight and a bit of a headache and more fatigue so early than last time.  Already have taken emend, decadron, now zofran and will include Tigan in the morning.  No Nuelesta shot tomorrow since bloodwork was very good and I got him to agree to extend my next round by a week so I can feel good for my daughter's high school graduation day.

    Silver lining was seeingmy college roommate who drove a couple of hours to see me.  It's like we start where left off.  She is a cancer survivor too and gave me great perspective. Not sure where 30+ years went. Still feels like we are 19 when we get together....

    But now I am pooped!  I will go back and read all the other posts later....

    Carry on, girlfriends!

  • Swissmiss
    Swissmiss Member Posts: 111
    edited May 2014

    I'm half way done as of today...yea me!  Last round of AC seemed to take all day, but glad it's behind me.  Hopefully my SE's will be milder...crossing my fingers!

    Longislandl8y...yes, it is surreal when the nurses get suited up to put those toxic drugs in my IV.  This whole experience feels so unreal, doesn't it?  And I have to say I LOVE your mantra, "Die, little f*ers!"  It is most fitting, and I'll think of it often :)

    Loved reading all your posts during my infusion today...thanks, Ladies, for the inspiration you give me!

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