What advice would you give someone just diagnosed with BC
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For what to say, I like the "How can I be helpful?" The wide open question.
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jess....now THAT'S a pearl of wisdom! Being hooked up with someone who has been there and done that is a great "Do.". Interestingly, when I was newly diagnosed, I kept receiving phone calls from the surgeon's social worker asking if I was interested in joining a support group. I kept declining and the social worker kept calling until I said in so few of words, " Dear, I don't need support. I'm okay.". And then she said, "Well, would you instead like to give others support?". I told her if I was interested, I'd contact her and I haven't heard from her since! But, getting back to what you said, I think the nicest thing a friend or family member can " do" is offer to connect you with another "survivor."
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I was shaking my head and laughing at what people say. I have three I find hurtful but humorous responses.
A husband and wife came over to visit while I was going through chemo. This is a couple we went out to dinner with periodically. I wasn't in the mood for going out to eat so we invited them over for dinner and my husband cooked on the grille. When they were leaving the husband turns to us and says give us a call when your back in business. My husband and I were speechless. Needless to say that was the end of that friendship.
A coworker came over to me at work to see how I was doing and I asked how she was doing. She said she just went to a wake last night and I being the person I am was so sympathetic and said I am so sorry who and what happened. She says a friend of mine - she died of breast cancer. Ok so I learned never to ask questions on who and why.
The most comical is one of my boss's - her mom was diagnosed with lung cancer while I was going through chemo. In a conversation about cancer she says "Your lucky you have breast cancer because there are all sorts of options for you. They can't do much about lung cancer and there isn't as much research" . I said to her " your telling me I am lucky?" The funny thing is she's worked with me for 12 years and I said to her "yes two times a charm, I'm really lucky". She still didn't get it. Mind you she's our corporate lawyer - wtf? Excuse the language.
I chock it up to people really don't know what to say and how to handle the conversation so I just give them the benefit of the doubt and move on. All our energy needs to be spent on getting better and there is no room for negativity or ignorance.
Kill them with kindness!
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It finally just occurred to me what advice I really would give to someone just diagnosed with breast cancer. I would say this:
"Unless someone has had cancer, they REALLY don't 'get it.' They can't even if they want to understand; it's just impossible to know until it's happened to you. They especially won't realize just how much of this is a mental/emotional thing, aside from the physical side of it. So some of your friends and family will say really stupid things. Try and understand that most of them aren't trying to be hurtful, they're just overcome by their own awkwardness and so something idiotic comes out of their mouths. Let it roll off you like water off a duck's back, don't let it get you down. Some of your friends--and maybe even family--will fall away and disappear. It's usually because they are afraid and don't want to face that it could also happen to THEM, and again, some just feel awkward and KNOW they'll probably just say something stupid. Some were just jerks to begin with. Feel free to forgive them later, or, feel free to decide that you don't need them in your life anymore and write them off. That's your choice and your prerogative, so feel good about your choice. Some friends and family will truly do their best and will step up to the plate to try and help you get through this, but often they won't have a clue what you REALLY need, so don't hesitate to ask them for specific helpful things, whether that helpful thing is to vacuum your house or be willing to have you call them up at 3 in the morning just to cry to someone. Then be sure to cherish those people for the rest of your life."
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VR that is funny about the social worker. Yes, I found that to be hooked up with/ speak with this particular energetic, smart, 'survivor' who had been through the mill with chemo etc, roughly 24 hours after my diagnosis (basically a time frame in which you are still reeling) was super.
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This is great stuff!! Maybe this website needs a section on "What advise women who had breast cancer would give the newly diagnosed'.
It took me a long time to realize that my battle with breast cancer was in my head and heart as much as in my body. When your going through what we have all experienced as our own particular version of BC hell, having only the best support and advise is so important. Energy spent on anything else is a huge waste. If I had only knew than what I know now, I would not have let bad words, bad friends and bad advise squander my precious energy.
The flip side is all the good words of love and real support, those great friends who know just what to say, and the amazing advise (most of which I got off this website...).
Keep the words of wisdom coming!!
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Jab can't agree with you more on all the positive people and actions that has come my way as well
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Great advice. I would add that reading materials should be appropriately tailored. Someone who was trying to be well -meaning gave me a book written by someone who had breast cancer and she dies!!! It is a diary of someone here locally and it goes through her journey. As I read it I was sure she was going to beat it and then at the end she dies and her husband finishes the book! Really? That is not inspirational! Something light and keeps my mind off the drama in the medical aspect of my life would have been better.
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Good topic and great responses. I think the one that irritates me the most is the call me if you need anything. Several of you responded you would never call them and I am the same way. If they wanted to help they just do it...call and say can I run an errand for you....my neighbor said I was going to bring you dinner but I know your husband cooks? Of course he does but that isn't the point is it? Our better halves are going through this with us...I had several friends who were my lifelines and my sister and sister in law. We all know some people look at us like we have leprosy and are afraid to get close physically or they might "get" it. I get they are afraid - heck so are we so I try to understand what their fear is like too. I have never had any of the responses posted here but I did have a neighbor who was like the town crier...she told the neighborhood including X neighbors. Everywhere I went in town when I ran into current or former neighbors - they knew. It ticked me off because it was my story to tell - if I wanted to and ONLY if I wanted to. I don't think she meant to be malicious but she just doesn't think sometimes before she starts talking and talking and talking...diane
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Edwards750 - The town crier has diarrhea of the mouth - there's a lot of people like that out there in this crazy world of ours - they have to be the one to spread the word.
bcincolorado - I have no words for the person who gave you that book - really?
As I said "Kill them with Kindness" - you just might catch them off guard
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That book story is outrageous. I could read something like that now that I'm finished treatment, but during treatment it might have put me over the edge. Some people just don't stop and think....
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The best advise I can give someone who has just been dx with bc and something that kept me going for years is:Take the reality of your dx day to day as it comes. Deal with it however you find best. Sharing or not sharing with others, meds to help or no meds if U wish, and this one is the BIG one:
Do NOT what if it. A good percentage of ladies with bc NEVER have to worry about it after treatment and live good full lives. ONLY deal what you must and tell yourself I will deal with what I must and not what MAY happen. That may NEVER happen so your wasting your time and life and sanity worrying about it. I took this approach for years and enjoyed life. When I was faced with something to deal with then I did.
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having been there we know how to talk to them. I usually let them guide the conversation, but let them know that they can call me anytime, I ALWAYS refer them to BC.org and tell them that how helpful it was for me. I also let them know that it is good source of support during the middle of the night when you can't sleep. The most annoying thing I found was a certain person kept telling me the whole time how ms so & so had cancer and she didn't have chemo, or ms so & so didn't have to do what i had to do...I finally went off on her and told her that apples to apples didn't apply to BC and went on to tell her about er/pr pos and neg her2 +/- stages grades.. the combinations are many....she never went there again so that was that.
I have found that as a survivor we know how to proceed with a conversation, but are not immune to hicups and say something we regret...
I also think that the hair issue is always a tough one. It is a difficult part of the journey. Don't brush it off. Let them know it is very hard to go through. They seem to always want to hear success stories, tempered with reality. They want to know that they CAN do this and the best way to do that it to speak to the inner strength they have and encourage in any way!
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Lots of good suggestions by everyone. Like many of you, I'm not fond of hearing "Let me know if there's anything you need" because it kind of shifts the responsibility to me. A much better thing to hear is "I'm bringing dinner to you this week. Which is better -- Wednesday or Thursday (or whenever)?" I also prefer smaller quantities of food, especially sweets. Very few people I know are trying to gain weight. Most of us don't want lots of desserts and candy around. Also, large casseroles would be nice for a big family, but not for two people. I do appreciate, though, that people are generous, and often I am able to freeze the leftovers for another meal later.
Another nice thing people can do is send a "thinking of you" card in the mail. Those always make me feel good. It's a nice little surprise when the mail comes on an ordinary day when you weren't expecting anything.
Restaurant, grocery, or gas gift cards are great too. Any dollar amount is appreciated. Amazon gift cards are nice too if you know the person has a Kindle or they like to download iTunes.
I also have a friend who said it was fine to text her in the middle of the night because she was often up. I did it a few times and usually got a response. We would text back and forth a few times, both griping about not being able to sleep at 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning. It helped.
On the "what not to say side," I had a friend who absolutely freaked out/overreacted when I told her I had stage 1 breast cancer. Her reaction would have been appropriate (well, not really!) if I had said I had a week to live and this is good-bye! I ended up comforting her and reassuring her that it wasn't that bad. Now THAT felt weird.
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I just have to say the hair thing is very interesting. People who have known me for a very long time love my hair now that I have chemo curls and say I look a lot younger (I'm 55 and feel completely spent). I have never had to die my hair and my hair after the second time through chemo (2005 and 2013) has come back my natural color twice). People are envious and I love it! One positive thing I can say about having to go through chemo. My hair is normally very straight and I kind of like the curls now but know it is only going to straighten out at some point. I am just glad I have hair!!!!
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One thing I would suggest to be said to someone just starting is don't say to them: "don't freak out if your hair falls out, it will grow back eventually!" I say go ahead and freak out, it is part of the process and helps people deal with what is going on with them.
People who have never been through what we have do not understand the impact of seeing your hair falling out.
I lost all of mine from the first treatment. My hair started coming out in just a bit at a time and then....Wham!!!!!!!!!!!!! If it hadn't been for family and friends who gently guided me through this particular minefield, I don't think I would have handled it any better than I did. My older brother and his wife were also a big help even though we live far apart because during a visit with them last year they let us stay with them and I felt so bad that my hair was still falling out it was all over the pillow and he looked at me and basically told me that my hair or how I looked was the least important than my life. My younger brother brought out his clippers and shaved my head on a visit to my mom's said to me as he gave me a hug and sat me down in a chair to start the first step in my healing, "sis, I'm going to shave your head so that when your hair does come back it will be better than it was".
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As far as what to say, nothing is exactly right. Just being willing to be with me, take me places, laugh when I laugh and cry when I cry is good with me.
What not to say:
1. Don't give up hope. [I hadn't actually even thought of that. Should I?]
2. Now is the time to really get your eating right. [You mean I can cure my cancer with broccoli because you heard of some priest somewhere who did that? Guess I need to tell my MO]
3. But you look so good! [Guess the docs made a mistake then]
4. Chemo! Oh, God, you don't have to do that, do you? [Guess you don't have a clue]
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I was thinking earlier today about how overwhelmed I was when I was first dx'd. Part of that feeling of being overwhelmed was all the "advice" I was getting about doctors, who to see and who not to see. Now I realize how important this is, but I had alot of opinions thrown at me. I found myself 2nd guessing myself and making myself more and more stressed out because so-and-so said not to use that MO because she heard "this" about them.IDK, maybe I just know more people in the healthcare field than other people, but this was a problem for me. Just one more thing to add to the what not to say list.
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What not to say:
1. Stop worrying there is nothing you can gain by worrying. (Impossible your brain is trying to solve a problem and you can't control how you think or feel, it just takes time for your mind to put it aside).
2. You can fight this cancer. ( I don't want a fight I just want it gone)
What to say:
1. Do you want to talk with my friend who has BC? (In some cases yes I want to know and talk to people who are going through what I am).
2. It is ok to take anti anxiety medicine this is what it is for and forget about getting hooked on it.
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Another thing under my what not to say list to those newly diagnosed which was said to me at the start of my journey:
"You'll be a pro at dealing with cancer in no time!"
umm, excuse me, I don't want to be a pro at dealing with cancer. I want it gone for good!
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