Starting Chemo in April 2014
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Big hugs to all! Mommy guilt is so hard!
Round 3 of AC this Wednesday. Freaking out a little because I am not back to myself yet from the last one. Still so tired. Guess we'll see what my numbers look like tomorrow. Part of me hopes I can't have it this week but I need to so I'm somewhat healthy for May long weekend. My whole family is coming from 14 hours away so I really want to at least be over the nausea by then.
"I think I can, I think I can. ..."
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hi Linda 505, met the medical oncologist today for discussing chemotherapy + endocrine therapy with him. Since my mother's breast cancer is stage IIA with ER/PR strongly positive , HER 2 -ve, Ki 67 5% positive, he prescribed only endocrine therapy _ FEMARA 2.5 MG /DAY FOR 5 YEARS. should i seek a SECOND OPINION?
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I just checked in on the last three days of this thread, and am soooo glad I did. I woke up this morning just SICK of being in cancer treatment! I have been keeping up a game attitude, but every now and then I REALLY feel the burden of coping with the damned thing and its treatments. I am wobbling along the path to increased acceptance, but balking mightily at times. Its almost time for tx #5 on Wed., and I am still feeling the effects of the last four. I re-read the stuff they gave me at the onc. clinic, about side effects and such, and I guess feeling sick is part of the game. It is SO HARD not to think its cancer causing the malaise. But I was in good shape going into this a month ago, so probably will feel better again sooner or later. Enough whining, thanks for everyone's candid reports, you are a huge support. My husband took a photo of me at my first chemo, I will try and upload that on my desktop computer. Big hugs to all of you, you are so inspiring, funny, and honest.
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Hi everyone! Newbie here. I've been reading all your posts which have been helpful. I was wondering about some things that I haven't seen anybody post about (or at least I couldn't find in my chemo fog mind), so I thought I'd ask. I had my first TC infusion on Wednesday 4/30/14 and have been just worn out since. I don't know how those of you who've returned to work are doing it.
My SEs:
1. I've been running a fever of 99.x-100.0 the whole time
2. My vision was a bit foggy on day 2 (Th), 3 (Fr) and part of 4 (Sat).
3. My tissue expanders have not been comfortable at all since the infusion (I had a 100cc fill on the day before the infusion). Feels like they're poking me constantly. I also had some fluid buildup day of the infusion above my right TE & below my port, which I noticed when I got home. I had it checked out the next day and my surgeon said the port was ok. I'm still bruised yellow under the port area (port installed 4/23).
4. Achy neck and back muscles (probably due to #3).
Anybody else have these issues? Or is it that everyone does and I'm just a big baby?
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You are not a big baby.. You are along for the ride and that is a bummer. This group will give you so much support and you will always find someone who has been through a similar experience. You can laugh, cry, scream, question, ask. It is all here.
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Hey MommyQ - I had a fill the day before my TCH - so I have the T and the C of what you had on the 29th and over the next couple of days after the chemo my TE's got less comfortable then they were right after the fill. It feels like my muscles contracted a bit due to chemo. No fever here but lots of fatigue and general achiness the first 3-4 days. Still tired on day 6 but I can manage about 1/2 of work - I am trying to talk a walk every morning and although I don't feel like doing it when I do it I seem to have more energy afterwards. I have noticed a little vision issues also - It seems like my right eye will not focus as well as it did - but it comes and goes and I think it is worse when I am tired.
Since you are running a low grade temp - I would put a call into your MO's office and see if you need a little antibiotic or something. Did you have the neupogen shot?
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Hi mommyq.
I have one implant and one TE, and YES my TE side is always sore during chemo, especially if I had my fill the same week. I think it is bc we just get stretched and then the chemo doesn't let us heal properly. And everything is exacerbated I find with chemo. My plastic surgeon wasn't concerned, but said no need to fill them quickly and just to go slow. And if you get dexamethasone it makes you retain fluid so the TE feels tighter too. That's what I chalk it up to anyway. Hope that helps!
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I need some information on nausea/vomiting and chemo. I have had one chemo treatment and had very few SE's with no nausea. I have my next chemo on Wed. Do you who have nausea get it right after infusion or does it come on gradually? Probably a little bit of both but thought I would ask for other experiences so that I know the possibilities. Thanks.
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Hi bridegroom, I have only had one infusion of AC. I became dizzy and cloudy almost immediately after they began to push the A, but I did not become nauseous until the evening of day two. It came on all at once and was extreme. I began taking zofran then. I never threw up, but I could have at any moment for the next two days. Next time I will start taking zofran the evening of day one and continue every six hours until day three or four. My MO also gave me promethazine which fights nausea and makes me sleepy, so I will use that at night. My husband plans to wake me to keep me on the med schedule because I was so very sick last time. I lost six pounds in just a few days.
Welcome mommyq. You are not alone, nor are you a baby. My TEs became pinchy after my infusion and there was some fluid build up. It went away about five days later. My temp floated up to about 99.6 and then back down. I was put on antibiotics during nadir since my WBC was so low. I was also dizzy and foggy, but not my vision, it was my thinking. I called it cotton head and could not sequence things correctly and kept starting things and walking away from them. Also, I couldn't stay on one subject when talking. I just rambled around. My husband and kids found it cute.
I'm off to buzz my head this evening. Please wish me strength and courage.
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good evening ladies. Please add me to the April chemo. My first treatment was April 26. I started the TC regime.
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spunky sorry you had to join us but happy to have you. How are you doing ??
Blueberry I had the dizziness also with treatment
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thanks Jaimieh. Don't be sorry God does not make mistakes and this will allow me to meet new friends and we will all get through it together. I am in good company.
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the little train that could. That is who you are. You can do it
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It occurred to me today that the up side of this is an appreciation for the good days.
I walked through the Botanical Gardens, marveling at the tulips and crabapple trees and
my ability to walk at all. And I saw something I hadn't seen before. Gratitude!
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sorry to hear longisland - can't help you out with meds but hope that I feel better soon!!
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I think I may have jinxed myself. I thought in lucked out and was doing great so went into the office today. Around lunchtime I felt like I was hit by a semi. Went home and slept until hubby came home. I had a fever of 102. Now I'm sitting in ER waiting for test results. The fever broke but they want to make sure no infections. Ugh! I hope rounds 2-4 are easier...
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chknfeet hope that ure home soon and better!!
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In reading the latest posts, I see a few of you have listed trouble sleeping while on the steroids. I was also prescribed Ambien (I know, yet another pill to take), but I really slept soundly the night I took it. To me, it was well worth it to take it. In case you haven't considered that as an option. Also, many of you mention the Claritin for the bone pain, but for those who have the continuous drippy nose, like I do, I started Claritin as well and it has really reduced that drip. Again, it's a bunch of stuff to take, but it does seem to help.
I ended up shaving my head on Thursday last week, and have a case of folliculitis (sp?). My scalp is very sensitive, but have ordered some 'Lindi's face serum' to help resolve this problem. No way I can wear a wig with this scalp, so hopefully it resolves fairly soon. My son has said that I rock the pirate scarf (the cap scarf that ties in the back), so I guess that'll work for the time being.

I start round 2 tomorrow (I'm on a taxol only for 3 weeks, one week off). I'm not looking forward to it, because I really felt decent during my break week and most of the surgery stuff has finally healed, allowing me to feel more like a human being again. But, let's get this stuff over with, right?!
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Hello Ladies!
Blueberry: Seriously, the whole auto-correct thing CRACKED ME UP.
Thanks for the laugh today! My kids and I kind of collect auto-correct bloopers. Like one time, I was typing "I ate a little for dinner", and it corrected to "I ate a KITTEN for dinner". Good thing I caught that before I sent it. HA! Oh, and FYI, the auto-correct fail of "amazingly" is "camacho fly". True story. 
Regarding veggies: I second what MakeLemonade said. Be careful on your low WBC days. During that time, I eat only fruits and veggies that can be cooked or peeled. Which is annoying, but at least I know I'm safe from infection that way. I sure do miss a green leafy salad though. Although, I keep reminding myself that this is NOT the time to worry too much about diet or weight gain. Obviously I'm not going to run out and order myself some KFC (because EW, that would definitely make me puke), but if I have to avoid fruits and veggies during my queasy days and live on crackers and pasta, then so be it. Do what you need to do to GET THROUGH IT.
Aw Sunshine, the MOMMY GUILT is overwhelming, isn't it? I can't even think of anything wise or uplifting to say, except that I'm right there with you. Hugs to all the wonderful mommies out there who are fighting and missing time now so we can give so much more of it later. And as for seeing yourself bald, I PROMISE, you do get used to it. The first couple of weeks after The Big Shave, I kept jumping whenever I passed by a mirror. I kept thinking I was seeing a stranger in the house. Now, it's no big deal. Just what I look like. Pretty darn cute bald woman coming through.

MakeLemonade: Regarding hair loss? Mine started falling out on a Thursday evening, I woke up the next morning with bald patches (EEEEK!), shaved it that afternoon, and by Monday a good portion of the stubble was gone too. It didn't take very long. Sorry.

MommyQ: Welcome. I find that I have a temperature that hovers between 99 and 99.5 starting about Day 5 through Day 10 post infusion, especially in the evenings or if I've done a little too much during the day. It completely freaks my husband out (I ended up in the hospital with a fever after Round 1), so I get relegated to Couch Potato Status during those days. Also, I've found that my vision is a little off, particularly in the left eye. I'm told these are normal things, but ask your MO about ANYTHING that concerns you.
brigadoon: I have chemo on Friday, and my nausea usually starts to settle in Saturday evening. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday it's full-blown and I feel like I could vomit every time I open my mouth. Wednesday it lifts. We are going to tweak my nausea meds AGAIN for the next round. Here's hoping the third combination is the winner.
chknfeet: Well, SHOOT. I hope they find the source of infection and send you home soon. Hospital stays in isolation are boring and crumby and absolutely no fun at all.
Welcome Spunky!
Hey, footballnut, thanks so much of the lovely picture of Spring you posted! I thought I'd share my own picture of our weather here in Calgary on the morning of Saturday, May 3.

In conclusion, it makes me very, VERY happy to hear that Spring has come to other parts of the world. It gives the rest of us hope.

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Autocorrect drives me nuts but also makes me laugh. My husband's name is tony and my phone insists on calling him tiny and HE IS NOT TINY lol. But this is now his name - why fight it?... Also prior to BC I don't think I had ever texted to someone and used the f'ing word - my phone does not allow that - it is ducking and I really only say that to my daughter and she absolutely knows what I mean. It is worse when I am tired cause I don't even realize what it has changed and I go back and wonder how anyone even understood my conversation. My daughter has posted a couple of our conversations on FB - with my ok.
I feel good this am - a little achy but otherwise good. I have my CBC today - see how my blood is behaving. Gonna go to work this am for a bit too - I stay until I am tired.
Will be thinking of you tomorrow SpecialK! Hope everyone else is well - Thanks all for all the advice and support
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round 2 starts today! Really hoping not to have a hospital repeat at day 7 like the first time.
Anyone having the opposite of chemo pause? I thought menstrual periods were supposed to go away with chemo. I am having the opposite. I started 2.5 weeks early...part of what landed me in the hospital, finished up last week and woke up at 4 am this morning (thank you Decadron) starting all over again.
If any of you beautiful ladies have access to a Look Good, Feel Better class in your area I nightly recommend taking it. I had mine yesterday and left with over 300$ in free makeup and a really cute, brand new wig from their wig bank. They said Pantene purchased the wigs for them. So, now I have two wig options to chose from. They also showed me options on scarf tying which was helpful
Here's the most creative tip they gave me. Take a large soft T shirt, cut it off under the arms. Discard the arm half. Fold down one edge and put it over your head. Take the ends in the back and twirl them outwardly until the band around your head is tight. Take each of the twirled ponytails and bring them around to form a band on your head. Tuck in the edges. Super cute and very comfortable. Great for this summer on the beach--cool and chic!
Wishing us all a tolerable SE week!
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cold interesting info re the temp ... It was day 14 for me yesterday but I did too much and temp went to 99.3. Took it easy for the rest of the evening and am back to normal. I am REALLY going to monitor myself after today's infusion as I do not want a repeat of going to the hospital on Day 7 or 8 :-)
Cold re hair loss .... I didn't think it would be this quick and thought it would hang in there. But I still can't get it shaved until Wed. Today is chemo day and I know I will be too tired afterwards. I wore one of my caps to bed just to contain the hair. They won't care at the infusion center,I am sure they have seen it all :-) Just wish I had the shave yesterday .... I am now surprisingly calm about this whole hair loss thing. I knew hair loss was a guarantee and I know it has to happen. And it has to better than this MESS of hair that is EVERYWHERE right now! LOL. I have fine hair, but I have a LOT of it.
Mmtagirl right there with you!! Chemo today, round 2! I have decided to be very proactive this time. I plan to follow a neutrapenic diet starting day 6 through to about day 10. Conserve my energy as well. I am getting a reduced dose today so hoping that helps as well.
mmtagirlalso right there with you with getting a period!! Have cramps this morning and am bleeding very slightly, but it is there :-(. I really thought chemo was supposed to stop this - was HOPING that would be the case. Heck,I have to go through this whole cancer, surgery, chemo, radiation thing, but getting my period as well? Not fair :-)
Chknfeet hope you get out of there quickly as the hospital is no place to rest! I was there last week from Tuesday night to Friday afternoon. 2 different doctors told me that they only ever figure out the cause of infection in about 25% of cases like yours and mine.
jhodro interesting re drippy nose and Claritin ... didn't think of that. I think I have lost nose hair as my nose is a little drippy, but not much. However, I am still on Claritin.
Wishing everyone a great day ... Going to have some breakfast, intake a lot of fluid and then off to chemo round 2 where I expect to be BORED! :-)
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Hi Krish - I would never tell someone not to get a 2nd opinion if they felt they wanted one - I did get one for my chemo regime and it changed based on that opinion. I am not a doctor but what she has been prescribed sounds pretty much in line with what I have seen here from others with similar diagnosis and it is GREAT news for her not to have to do chemo. That Ki 67 5%, i believe means that they perdict she has a very low chance of reoccurence and realize that chemo is always an option if that does happen. If you will find comfort and she will find comfort in a 2nd - then just do it. I am very happy for her.
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fortunately my SEs have been very bearable but I mean really? I just got my period this morning!! Lol. The body is an amazing thing!!!!! I've been peeling almost every hour since last night; after feeling a sort of gut rot last night and bloating it's actually a good thing although id kill for a full nights sleep!
Last night I developed a bit of pressure in my head and my scalp is feeling weird. Today is day 7 for me. Still hungry and ready to roll!! Lol
Sharing my head this Thursday night. Can't wait to get that over with and try my wig. I also can't wait until my port stops reminding me that it's there. The nurse told me that I can remove the tape on day 7. Well today is day 7 and I'm nervous to touch it. I was going to give it a go but might wait. It certainly doesn't hurt like it did. It's just reminding me that it's there. I can't wait to get rid of it!! Lol
Cold isn't winter done yet in Calgary? Last time I was there was approx 10 years ago. It was in April. We went to banff and it was approx 12 degrees celcius - beautiful. When we went skiing it was like the middle of winter! Awesome! Then we went into Calgary to see acdc at the saddledome and it felt like summer. I love Alberta! Beautiful part of the country! Hope that spring comes your way soon!!!!
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Hey Ya'll, I kind of made it through the first week of treatment. One day of vomiting only. So yesterday I felt almost normal again. It was a beautiful day too. By last night my hips & back were hurting baaaaad. My ribs were hurting, I thought from vomiting.I got the neulasta shot on wed. I have been taking the claritan like I'm supposed to. Last night I took 2 percs. It still hurts. Today I go back for lab work. I'm going to really complain to the doc. Thanx for the vent.
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I forgot . I got this envelope in the mail. When I opened it there was a $20 bill clipped to papers. It was a survey from a university about B.C. It said even if I didn't want to fill out the survey that I could keep the 20. But I did fill it out to hopefully help someone.Anything to help. And I got $20.
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Sending positive vibes to those getting the magic potions today.
Saw the dermatologist today - she confirmed the reaction between the chemo chemicals and the precancerous areas on my skin - she seemed a little too happy about it
. Zapped 3 areas with liquid nitrogen, and sent me off with a prescription for a steroid cream in case itching gets worse. Also recommended keeping well moisturized with something like Aveeno.So far I seem to be avoiding issues from being in the neutropenic zone - which reminds me of hydroponic - which reminds me of bodies floating in suspension like in the movie Coma. Maybe I haven't avoided issues after all ...
(Still laughing about the neulasta nudists)
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Thanks for all the support ladies. I feel like a big baby sometimes and its so helpful knowing we are all going through the same thing and supporting each other. I think I overexerted myself. I don't know what's harder, the treatments or keeping up the facade of being strong and a-ok. I'm home and have been resting up although I can't sleep with the body aches. Took the day off. My blood panel came back ok and didn't seem as though I was immunocompromised. I figured it wasn't a WBC issue since it was only day 6 and I had the neulasta shot. They wanted to admit me anyway to which I fought and refused. I didn't see the point since all they were going to do was watch my temp and hydrate me. I had them call my onco who suggested an oral antibiotic and I was on my merry way.
MakeLemonade - Did they tell you if we should expect the same after future infusions? This kind of has me freaked out, although next time I'm going to take more time off and be extra careful. We had visitors this weekend and some of them were sniffling due to allergies. Not chancing it next time and will be telling them to turn around and go home.
Cold - That is insanity! Snow in May! Here's to sunshine and budding flowers soon!
Mommy Q - My expanders have been very painful since the infusion, especially in the rib area. There has been a stabbing feeling especially when lying down. I opted to skip out on this week's expansion to give myself a break. I haven't had an ongoing low grade fever, only the high one from yesterday and today. My onco nurse said not to worry unless it reaches 100.5 or higher and to hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. I've also been achey, moves from shoulder/neck then legs. Tylenol helps. I think its normal and will pass within a week (hopefully).
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Thanks for all the responses! It's so nice having a place like this for us to talk and share our experiences and share helpful advice!
brigadoonbenson: Thanks for the welcome! You're so lucky to have little SEs! Good luck to you on Wednesday!
linda505: Sounds like we both (and several others on this board) have similar discomfort with our TEs & slightly cloudy vision. I guess those SEs must be normal. On Sunday, I called my MO because I read 100.6 degrees when I woke from a nap. Turns out I was just overheated from blankets because it dropped to 99.8 by the time my MO called me back a few minutes later. She asked if I had any signs of infection (redness/heat/swelling around TEs, pain urinating) and I told her no. She told me that it was unusual to have a fever from infection until midcycle because that's when the blood counts are down, but to just keep monitoring my temperature and to NOT take any Advil or Tylenol, which would mask any fever I might have. Oh, and I DID have the Neulasta shot on Thursday, May 1, the day after my chemo.
clarrn: I think you're right that chemo makes everything exacerbated! And yes, I did take the Dexamethasone on chemo day and the 2 days flanking it.
Blueberry4: I've also been dizzy and feeling generally off balance since the infusion. I hope the dizziness and TE pains lessen before the next fill and chemo! I hope your hair appointment went well.
Spunky825: Welcome! I am also on TC (started 4/30), so we can share and compare war stories.

ColdInCanada: I find that I also raise my temp if I do too much, but I've been laying around a lot! I increased my fluid intake yesterday to about 2.5 quarts of water and felt better. Maybe I was dehydrated too because I wasn't drinking enough. Hope that snow goes away soon for you!
chknfeet: Glad you didn't end up having to stay at the hospital and they got your temps back to normal. I tried drinking a lot of water yesterday and DID feel better, so hydration must be the trick! My TEs also poke my ribs and my armpits! I can't get comfortable for long in any position so sleeping has been in spurts of about 3 hours at a time. So, are the TEs feeling better since you skipped a fill? My PS wants to do a lot of fills early on because she said that it's easier to stretch everything within the first 6 weeks after the insertion. However, since I can't swap the TEs out for my gummy bear implants until after chemo and radiation are both done plus a 6 months wait (so we're looking at April 2015), I probably could slow it down a bit on fills.

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Aww, thanks to all of you for you sympathy regarding the snow.

Truth be told, two days before that photo was taken it was +22C (71F), and we were all hanging out in the backyard in shorts and t-shirts. Weather here can turn on you in a second, I'm telling you! And for the record, I can remember times we've had snow for EVERY MONTH OF THE YEAR. Yes, that includes July and August. The good news is that it doesn't last very long (most of ours from this last blast has already melted). The bad news is that it can show up AT ANY TIME. :O
Know what I get to do today? I'm practically GIDDY about this. I get to LEAVE THE HOUSE. For something OTHER than a medical appointment! Woo hoo! It's just a trip to take my daughter to her violin lesson, but STILL. It's LEAVING THE HOUSE! I know you all understand.

MommyQ: I've been laying around a lot too. Which led to a bit of dehydration for me as well - it's easy to forget to drink when you're nauseated. And also when you're doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Yesterday I drank so much I was practically floating. But it helped - I feel better today. And now that my mother-in-law has left (God Bless her! I KNOW she was doing what she thought was best for me!), tonight I'm hopping back on the treadmill. What she doesn't know won't hurt her, right? And I MISS exercise.
Have a wonderful day Ladies! Wishing you all several SE-free hours!
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