I am having a hard time
I am having a hard time about where to put this, and go on. I have had a low-grade DCIS with a microinvasion, so with that, recurrence is not so common. Not much more bad prognosis than DCIS, but slightly invasive, and that means the very small possibility of more. I am having a hard time, being a planner (but anyone would) deciding whether to feel OK, or to feel that the other shoe may drop. I just don't know where to be, realistically. I do not know how to expect either a 30-year life or a 5-10-year life. I don't know how to do it, not in order, and I need TIME to have what is important to me. What do I do to go on with some comfort?
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Not sure how to answer that. I am a planner as well, and since my dx, I have flipped between being proactive and in 100% denial. My life has been pretty wonky for the last 10 years so I always feel like that shoe is going to drop.
Are you seeing a Social Worker or therapist? The SW at my Center has been really helpful on giving me ways to keep things happening now in perspective. Some days I am good, some days not so much. The other thing I can recommend is the book The Silver Lining and the author's blog thesilverpen.com Both are very reality-based, but optomistic at the same time. She has a chapter dedicated to post-treatment emotions, that feeling of being adrift as well as fearing the future.
DCIS is such a weird dx to me. Not the clinical part, but the mental part, if that makes sense. In your other post, you ask about being cured. It's like who the heck knows? I wish I had the answers, but I am trying very hard to be "present," to live in the moment. If you see my sig line, I have a quote from the play, Rent, to remind me of that.
Good luck and I hoe that you can feel like you get both feet onthe ground soon.
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Hi percy4,
I'm 4 years out from a low grade stage one diagnosis now. I was always a planner too so it sent me for a loop, at first I felt like I couldn't even plan for my summer garden because I might not be around in the summer, or that I might not be around for my sons graduation the year after that, but slowly as time passed that fear has descended. My best advise would be to plan for tomorrow but live for today. My takeaway from this has been to change the things I didn't like in my life, like the horrible stressful job I had at diagnosis ( that payed really well so I felt like I had to keep it ), and make time for the more important things in life, like time and experiences with your family. Keep those long term goals in place, but with a renewed sense of urgency for living a more fulfilling life today. Breast cancer made me realize that my life was more about getting through it, rather than living it, so I made a positive change. That's why I say, keep those long term goals, live like you're still going to be here until you're 90, but don't put off the things that are important to you today and learn to prioritize what's truly important in life so when it ends, either 5 years from now or 50 years from now you can smile looking back on the life you lived.
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Percy, If I understand your comments correctly, then I think I had all of those thoughts too.
I am a bit uptight in general, wanting to plan everything, know everything and cover all the bases. During parts of my waiting time (waiting for biopsies to come back, waiting for follow ups, waiting to have the mx and the final path report) I had too many extremely anxious days where I felt physically ill and nauseated from the anxiety. I decided one day that that was NO way to live and I wasn't going to live that way. I told myself, figuratively, that even if I only had one month to live, I was NOT going to live it feeling like that. (So I have some very good days where I was spiritually plugged in and very peaceful and positive after that...) About that time I wandered onto this board to find a really simple answer, and read some very scary posts that were mixed in with what I was seeking, like how one woman was obsessed with inspecting her incision area Every Day and she did find cancer there ... and I thought "oh snap, I am NOT doing that!!!!!!!!" and I closed the browser window so fast you would have thought it had seen a giant spider there.
I did discuss that obsessive checking with my BS and she agreed that I absolutely do not need to do that and should not do that.
I would rather live in denial between follow up visits/mammos than worry about this every day. Truly. I'm trying to see my life like anyone who doesn't know when their life will end and just enjoy each day and focus on the good parts. Any one of us could get hit by a meteor tomorrow ... heh heh ... not to be dismal, but hey, it works for me.
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Could not agree more with Susie123's above post: "Plan for tomorrow but live for today." I'm going on 5 years without any problems, and I hope it stays that way...but I do often think about bc, especially as my annual mammo approaches.
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Melilla Bella I like what you said a lot..there was a time exActly like you when I felt I have nothing wrong with me and I lived with clear mind and enjoyed more life..it was in winter after I was done radiations..now in spring I find myself regressing emotionally a lot and back to fears...wish I can manage my anxiety bcos my life is in chaos especially with young kids I cannot focus...and yes,I find sometimes that coming on this board didn't help me much. Some scary stories made me regress a lot..one day I read a story that I broke down and had panic attacks that my husband said he will stop the internet so I stop reading negativity...
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I am having a hard time with everything. I have been done with chemo and radiation for a year. I'm on Arimidex and I don't feel any better. The se's are bothering me a lot. I don't have a normal life. I can't even go back to work. Some days I can't even think right. I have pain nearly everyday. I have shortness of breath and weakness. I try to do something every day. Some days I can't get out bed. My body is so sensitive to every thing. I have to use all hypoallergenic products. The meds the docs give to help make me feel like a zombie I don't know what to do anymore. I need some help. I want my life back.
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Catlover58 - have you tried or considered a different AI? I had many of your SE on Femara and Arimidex. I am now on Tamoxifen, and I feel like I have my life back! Made a world of difference for me.
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Catlover, welcome to Breastcancer.org. BayouBabe's experience with SEs is a great reminder about aromatase inhibitors, as described in this section of the main Breastcancer.org site. Near the bottom of the page, there's this:
"If you're experiencing side effects from taking one aromatase inhibitor medicine, tell your doctor. You may be able to take a different medicine. Arimidex and Femara have similar chemical structures, while Aromasin has a different structure."
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Catlover- sending hugs and hopes that you can get this starightened out and feel better soon
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faerywings I'm sorry to hear you're struggling with this. DCIS is not life threatening, so plan away. Seriously I don't think much about it other than the se of radiation that continue and the occasional ache or pain which gets very frustrating. Other than that, after treatment the DCIS is gone. And if it's not, I'll deal with it then. I've found that avoiding the "IF's" is a major key to dealing with this. What if you have a heart attack tomorrow, what if you get into a fatal car crash? What if you are killed or injured in a tornado? Or paralyzed from a fall? Or have a stroke? Or get some entirely different non related kind of cancer? All of those scenarios are quite possible, but we still plan ahead. We don't stop living our daily life or planning for the future. It is annoying though when you don't know how you're going to feel from day to day. Sometimes this rad fatigue puts a crimp on things and I get fed up with it.
Avoid the scary stories!! I can't emphasize that enough!! Who needs panic attacks added to the stack? And statistics are pretty misleading because our bodies all differ. What's the point? It's just going to make you worry about something that likely won't happen to you. We're all different and what happens with one person's diagnosis won't necessarily happen with your diagnosis. Be vigilant, certainly. But constantly dwelling on DCIS and looking for lumps and bumps every few hours, is only going to end up with you not enjoying the present and making tomorrow another day lost to worry.
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Catlover - Where are you? I was very saddened to hear how hard things are for you right now, and was hoping to see you here again. Hope you're reading this. It does sound as though BC and the treatments for it have taken your life down severely, to this point. Agree with the others that you should ask your docs about changing meds. I also want to say this. The very depression you are suffering from (through no fault of your own) is making you, perhaps, not so interested in other people's opinions. Please stay on BCO. We are intelligent, kind women who have learned a lot through looking through other's information, and also their expreriences. I am worried that, not seeing you here again, you are just feeling like nothing will help, right now. Not true. If nothing else (though I do think BCO can provide you with valuable info), you are loved and respected here, and any big or little issue you have will always be answered and treated with value. This is a hard thing, no matter where we are in it, and it has saved my sanity. I Post all kinds of things, from wanting pertinent real info, to just saying how I'm feeling (as I started in this thread). Always, I am helped in some way. I hope it will help you with the way you are feeling. Love - P. -
Percy, not sure if this will help or not: I was originally dx'ed with DCIS/IDC in Sept 1996. Very different back then with no Internet, little secret, BC was kept as a huge secret. I was planner, basically told I wouldn't have long, was worried all the time with a young family BUT I got through.
Life went on. Totally surprised for 2nd BC DX in Sept 2012 (the two occurrences weren't related). What I've learned since then: no matter what, worry doesn't help, it zaps strength and my focus was all wrong: wanted to enjoy what I did have. Like was said above, live for today, plan for tomorrow. Sometimes that means 1 day at a time, 1 hour at a time, or 1 minute at a time. When the worry starts, have to tell myself to stop; is there something I can about what's happening? If I can, I do what I can. If I can't do anything, I let it go as I can control a whole lot of things. Ask for help, get support (BCO is the BEST for this), try to fill your life with non-cancer activities and enjoy life. None of us are guaranteed tomorrow (regardless of a BC DX) so enjoy today.
Best of luck on your cancer journey.
Cat lover, please understand this is a process. Just when we're finished with treatments, when we think we SHOULD be better, reality sets in. Our lives will never be the same as before BC. This isn't to say it can't be wonderful or, even better, we've been given a different perspective on life. And, most important, it takes a while for our bodies to heal, and the healing process (physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually) just takes time, probably a lot longer than we expect or want it to be. Try to gentle to yourself.
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