Starting Chemo in April 2014

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  • merg
    merg Member Posts: 61
    edited May 2014

    Hey Ya'll, quick question. My tongue feels like I just at tons of salty popcorn from the movies. I know it's chemo tongue, but does anything help it? Thanx

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited May 2014

    merg - have you tried a rinse with salt and baking soda in water?  This helps mine a lot.  Also, Biotine mouthwash can help.

    Best to make the salt solution fresh each time - I'm using 1/4 tsp salt + 1/4 tsp baking soda + 8 oz water. Rinsing multiple times a day.

    Good luck to everyone with infusions today and all the rest of us with our SEs.

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2014

    One more day down.....yahoo.....

    Makelemonade- I hope they get your counts up soon so you can go home and rest. 

    Footballnut- I sure hope you feel better soon.  Nausea is the absolute worst in my book. 

    Lovebeingnana- I am glad that everyone treated you well with your new temporary look

    As for me I am deciding what color I am going to dye my hair today.  It currently looks like crap so I might as well see what I would look like with dark hair.  I have always had blonde hair so I figured that a change before it goes wouldn't hurt too much.  My 8 (soon to be 9) year old is excited because I told him that he can help shave my head this time. 

    I am feeling okay today.  I woke up feeling a little sick because it had been a while since I ate last but once I ate I felt much better.  I am just excited because I still have managed to get some work done even while not feeling my best.  I am just hoping that I will feel much better next week before the next infusion.  I have some events next week and I don't like feeling fragile which is how I currently feel. 

  • MakeLemonade
    MakeLemonade Member Posts: 153
    edited May 2014

    Woohoo again - neutraphils now over 2,300 (they were 100) so am going home today!!  Apparently 1,000 was the magic number before they would even consider sending me home. 

    Have to wait for monitor leads to be taken off and someone from IV team has to get my port - "deaccessed" (is that a word?) but I don't care, I'm going home!! 

    My nurse is going to miss me - she has two patients today that are being "difficult" - one keeps hitting her and the other  doesn't like her and won't let her do anything to her.  I never want to be one of "those" patients :-)

  • Longislandl8y
    Longislandl8y Member Posts: 145
    edited May 2014

    Good morning friends.  Yesterday was a dark day of SEs.  Nausea was a lot worse than after the first round.  I felt like shit ALL through the 2nd night and 3rd day.  Just awful.  Today a lot better - a lot of cramping and some diarrhea, but I'm not complaining - I'll take it over the way I felt yesterday ANY day.  Took the whole day off work today and hoping to feel better by tomorrow.  Kind of bummed when I think about having to do this 4 more times - especially if the SEs get worse with each infusion Sad.  But trying to focus instead on gratitude for feeling better today. 

    Hope everyone is managing well today and wishing the best for anyone being infused today. xo

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited May 2014

    WOO HOO Makelemonade - happy happy for you!!

  • Kite
    Kite Member Posts: 265
    edited May 2014

    I hope everyone has a big turn around for the weekend and start to feel better! I just hate all these side effects! 

    I'm 10 post chemo (1st one) and I've had nothing but trouble. My WBC count was so low they put me on Neupogen (sp?) shots and now I have the most massive headache. Nothing stops it and it's constent. I called doc to see if I need to have another one or not. Good grief I need a break. 

    Lemonade- hallelujah to getting OUT of the hospital! I'm not a fan. 8) 

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited May 2014

    I went into chemo hell wed. afternoon and I'm just starting to come out.  I never felt anything like those muscle pains, bone pains, whatever they were.  Couldn't sleep, couldn't read, couldn't sit and watch tv.

    Just woke up from a nap and hallalujah!  Still stiff and slightly uncomfortable but nowhere near as horrible.  I've been through CMF before but it was nothing like T/C!

  • Kazzy115
    Kazzy115 Member Posts: 122
    edited May 2014

    first infusion yesterday of AC. Nausea mad dizziness set in before leaving hospital. Rough morning. Tried to alternative Ativan and compazine only to sleep most of late am away. Hoping this is the worst of it. Haha

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited May 2014

    Jeesh - I think everyone needs a break!  Just one normal hour would do.  I have not started with any SE's yet but I am dreading them. 

    MakeLemonade - so glad you are going home.  Everything is better at home.  I think the hospital stays themselves are debilitating.  Kills muscle mass.  Also, I see no advantage in treating the nurses poorly.  What are they thinking?


  • merg
    merg Member Posts: 61
    edited May 2014

    Wait! The SE's get worse? I hope not. I'm kind of tired of hearing people I know say I'm so strong, & I'm doing so well.. I'm trying to not let them see it. I want a hug, & relief from the aches. Sorry I'm bitching. Go home & rest easy, Lemonade.Thanx Sharon,  my tongue thanx ya too.Hope ya'll have an easy day. BTW, Any ATL ladies out there?

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited May 2014

    merg - one of my Atlanta friends just posted about eating turkey and dressing at the OK Café.  Sounds good if you have tastebuds!


  • ColdInCanada
    ColdInCanada Member Posts: 95
    edited May 2014

    Hello Gorgeous April Ladies!

    I am still here! I've been trying to lurk and catch up on everyone, but the SEs this round were a little harder to deal with. The NAUSEA was awful. For five full days I was on the verge of vomiting every time I opened my mouth. A slight cough led to a gag, which led to me lying down and being as still as I could be. I HATE vomiting. I am a HUGE Nausea Baby (it comes from spending two ENTIRE pregnancies suffering from severe nausea and vomiting), so we'll be once again tweaking my meds, and hopefully we'll find the right combination next round. Also the fatigue was more severe this time too. I slept and slept and slept and never really felt rested. The GOOD news is that I am exactly one week out from Round 2 and there is no sign of fever or infection! Hooray! That Neulasta shot I gave myself in the stomach is CLEARLY doing it's job. :)

    Sharon: I, too, have to cancel our annual family summer vacation to visit family. :(  My children are SUPER disappointed. We've rescheduled for late August/early September (we're homeschoolers, so we can get away with this), but "It's just not the SAME, Mom. Grandma's garden will be all finished by then. Our cousins will all be in SCHOOL." *sigh* Cancer really STINKS, you know? On the upside, I am planning a trip to DisneyWorld for the end of September, just to GET AWAY and enjoy some family time outside of the HOUSE. Plus, DW is my Happy Place, so when chemo is finished, it's where I want to go to play. :)

    MakeLemonade: HOORAY for going home! My children were SO worried about me going into the hospital again this Round (my DD was in a panic), and I kept having to reassure them that the hospital wasn't a Bad Place. It was mostly just BORING. I am SO happy for you! :)

    LongIsand: I am so sorry you hit the DARK PLACE this round. I was there too. Maybe you saw me weakly waving at you? In the midst of it, I, too, kept thinking "FOUR more times? Seriously? I CAN'T do FOUR more times." But then I came out the other side into the LIGHT, and I realized that it's just FOUR more 10-day periods of feeling CRAPPY. And only five of those days involve nausea and feeling REALLY crappy. I can DO this. I don't WANT to, but I can. WE can do this. We ARE doing this. Even if we hate Every. Single. Minute of it. 

    merg: Welcome! I would't say the SEs get WORSE; they're just different. For ME, anyway. Everyone is different and everyone reacts to chemo in their own way. And your MO should have a wonderful, magical bag full of DRUGS to treat every SE out there. I love that bag. :) Regarding the chemo tongue - YUP. It's nasty. I feel like I'm wearing a sock on my tongue. Ew. I've been rinsing with Biotene mouthwash, but honestly? Nothing really seemed to help.

    Kazzy: Feel better. I hope the nausea/dizziness clear up ASAP and the rest of the SEs are minimal. 

    Timbuktu: I'm not sure what chemo regime you're on, but I had the horrible bone/muscle/body pains last round too. My MO said it was a reaction to the Taxotere and I've been taking a Claritin every morning this round and it is helping a lot. Paired with Tylenol, it's been much more bearable. Also it helped a lot with the Neulasta SEs. Definitely mention it to your MO. You shouldn't have to suffer. 

    brigadoonbenson: YES! An hour off! Wouldn't that be amazing if we were all allotted some "SE Free Time" for each round? HEAVEN, I'm telling you! :)

    And LADIES, I have to say that you are all ROCKING the short hair/shaved head look! Bald really is beautiful, am I right? I am LOVING my hats and scarves. What I have discovered is that there are many, MANY more people out there that have been where I am than I thought. Not only do I get a lot of compliments on my super cute headcoverings, but I also get a lot of "I've been there" comments and looks, and loads of encouraging words from complete strangers who have either battled cancer themselves, or who have a loved one who has. 

    You know, there are SO MANY of us out there, and this makes me SAD and ANGRY and SHOCKED and so very, very SCARED for future generations. For my daughter and my son and my nieces and nephews. In my family, the "family history" starts with ME. What can I do about that? How can I stop it? *sigh* Things to ponder while I'm cooped up in my house waiting for my WBC to rebuild...

    Next weekend is my Birthday. Also, it marks the beginning of my week of NORMAL. So I'm throwing myself a party. Woo hoo! :) Always, ALWAYS make sure you have something to look forward to! 

    Hugs and Blessings to you all!

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited May 2014

    I'm on Taxol/Carboplatin.  I'm getting my Claritin right now!!!  Thanks!

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited May 2014

    Welcome back Coldincan  :)  glad you've made it through to the other side again!  I too worry for my daughter,  and even though we weren't done our family yet, now I struggle with the "should I take the chance of passing this on"  But that's a bridge to cross for later.   For now we just get through the next cycle!

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited May 2014

    So sorry the SEs are being mean, Cold, but it sounds like you're not letting it get you down.  And, we are hoping to be at Disney end of Sept as well.  Perhaps we will have a celebratory toast!

    Yay for being out of the hospital, MakeLemonade.

    Longisland, Kite, Kazzy, Timbuctu - feel better soon.  

    At least no one has to get treatment tomorrow (I'm assuming no Saturday infusions ?)

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited May 2014

    Welcome back Coldincan  :)  glad you've made it through to the other side again!  I too worry for my daughter,  and even though we weren't done our family yet, now I struggle with the "should I take the chance of passing this on"  But that's a bridge to cross for later.   For now we just get through the next cycle!

  • Missyjean
    Missyjean Member Posts: 27
    edited May 2014

    Hi Kazzy115!  I too was told that they were pretty optimistic about the BMX being all I needed. No such luck. I had my BMX on March 12th and had a tiny bit of cancer in my sentinel node. I'm starting chemo on Monday (May 5th). I've learned so much from this forum and hope I'm as prepared as I'll ever be.  I think I'll be a wreck on Sunday. 

    I did tons of crying for a couple of weeks, I honestly wasn't sure how I was going to pull myself together after finding out I needed further treatment. I spent many, many hours on this forum and felt like I gained strength from the women that have and are now on this tough journey with us. 

  • Kazzy115
    Kazzy115 Member Posts: 122
    edited May 2014

    Thanks for all the well wishes.  So Day 3 starts so far with minimal SEs - I slept most of day 2.  So much for plans to make it into the office!  But nausea got better as day progressed.  Limited diet to bland foods. Hoping that I encountered the worst early and it's okay here on out.  Will try to get out of out house for bit today.

    Thanks again ladies for sharing experiences and tips. Nice to know there's a place to go to ask questions and learn how others have managed.

    Have wonderful weekends!

  • Sunshine36
    Sunshine36 Member Posts: 88
    edited May 2014

    Hey ladies ! I'm 3 days out from round 2... feeling still pretty tired,  alittle nausea (the pills are helping me), but compared to round 1, my constipation is better (this time around,  I started the senekot and colace proactively and it seems to have made a big difference so far!). Ugh the steroid def makes quality sleep tough though (this is my last day of steroids though so hopefully that helps). Also this ttime around I am super using my biotene toothPaste and mouthwash, and intermittent baking soda rinses.... anythjng I can do to potentially lesson or maybe avoid the mouth sores that presented on day 7 last time. Those were by far my worst SE :( wish me luck to get a better handle on them this time around! 

    You ladies are all amazing, and I want to comment on everyone's posts, but ive got a bit of foggy brain going on, so sorry if I get alittle loopy lol

    Merg - the biotene will def help (ps I love the cooling taste!)

    Makelemonade - woooo hooo girl!!!

    Jamieh - doesnt it feel so good to get little things done!!! I made breakfast for the fam this morning,  and it felt sooo good!!! Lol I am now exhausted and resting though. Baby steps, right? :-)

    Longisland - SO glad to hear your nausea is subsiding!! Hope tom it is even better!!!! 

    Kite - I will pray you get some relief soon sweety :( stay strong, drink tons of fluids, and remember that it will get better (it has to for us right??!!!). Ill be thinkingof you! 

    Timbuktu - YAY for you feeljng better today!  Enjoy your wknd!!!

    Kazzy - hope you feel better soon!!!!! Stay positive and strong and sleep when/if you can(at lleast it passes time :P) 

    Cold- I know I speak for everyone when I say, we love you super uplifting posts :) so glad we're fb friends so i can keep up with you more often! 

    Clarn - im waiting for my genetic testing results and I worry too about my daughter (she's only 3). So upsetting and frustrating to even think about :(

    I hope I didn't miss anyone. I love everyone's support,  and advice, and encouragement on this site. You are ALL amazing, beautiful,  brave women. Here's to a nice weekend and better se-free days hopefully ahead. 

    Xoxo

    Jen 

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited May 2014

    Two xanax definitely helped me get some sleep last night.  

  • Longislandl8y
    Longislandl8y Member Posts: 145
    edited May 2014

    Cold, you rock.  Thanks for shouting out to me and reminding me that I have such good company in this nightmare.  Getting a little better each day and I hope the same for you.  Today I am missing my great niece's first holy communion party which is a bummer, but whatcha gonna do, right?

    Sunshine I also had bad constipation the first time and the senokot helped a lot.  Now I'm finding I have diarrhea on day 3-4 so wondering if maybe just one dose of Senokot on infusion day would be better.  I took it two days in a row this time.  I hope you can avoid the mouth sores this time around.  It sounds awful.  I haven't experienced that.  I don't know if it's helping but I make my own toothpaste of coconut oil, baking soda & peppermint oil.  And I also have an herbal mouthrinse I use.  If the biotene doesn't help, maybe you'd like to try going that route with the toothpaste.

    Merg, I know exactly how you feel about the "you're so strong" thing.  We all hide behind our brave masks & sometimes I feel like I'm expending more energy to protect people from knowing how I'm suffering than on myself.  But to quote my bff, "that's the way love goes." People are at a loss as to what to say, and honestly what CAN they really say that would make us feel good...

    Kite & Timbuktu I hope you're both feeling better today.

    Kazzy you sound like you're doing pretty well. I hope this continues for you!

    MakeLemonade, what's happening with you today? Feeling better I hope!!!

    Everyone here, I wish you a minimal SE day filled with smiles and love. I am on day 4 since my infusion and hoping it goes like the 1st one where day 4 was my corner turning day! Tick tock, Tick tock...

  • brigadoonbenson
    brigadoonbenson Member Posts: 412
    edited May 2014

    Longislandby - I brush with coconut oil too.  Do you do oil pulling?  I don't have mouth sores yet (and I hope never) but I have thought that oil pulling would be beneficial to mouth sores and the rest of the soft tissues of the digestive track. 

  • SharonDe
    SharonDe Member Posts: 222
    edited May 2014

    Nice to see folks checking in so we can see how everyone is faring.

    I am on Day 10 after tx1.  Happy to say I have continued to feel OK since about Day 5.  A little tired, but not bad.  Have been lucky with minimal lingering side effects.  Still have a minor rash on my neck, and shoulders.  Some redness on my face - seems to be in locations where I have rough areas / solar keratosis already.  Fortunately, my regular dermatology checkup is Tuesday, so I will be interested to get this stuff checked.

    No mouth sores.  Had a small glass of wine last night just to see if I could taste it - almost, but not quite normal. Still monitoring Temp and trying to stay in a germ-free bubble :)

  • JanetP1507
    JanetP1507 Member Posts: 46
    edited May 2014

    Hello fellow cancer slayers! 

    After my 2nd chemo Thursday, I decided to be proactive this time and started taking my anti-nausea and Tylenol on Friday BEFORE SEs hit. Big improvement today over last Saturday! Except I woke up with a cold, can't win completely I guess :P  Anyway, in spite of my cold, I'm keeping my appointment for my buzz cut in awhile, I want to get that done before my hair starts falling out! I can take it easy the rest of the weekend.  

    This Friday is my first progress check in with my MO. I dared to feel my tumor in the shower awhile ago and maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part but I think it MIGHT feel a tad bit smaller. DIE TUMOR DIE!!!! ;) Anyway, I hope you are all feeling ok and enjoy your weekend!

  • Kazzy115
    Kazzy115 Member Posts: 122
    edited May 2014

    a friend brought me periobrite and periowash for brushing and rinsing.  Had friend swear by it.  Anyone use these?

  • LovieLovie
    LovieLovie Member Posts: 68
    edited May 2014

    Clarn & Sunshine  I hope to give you a different perspective.  I am BRCA+ which constitutes about 10-15% of the 1 in 8 women will get breast cancer in their lifetime.  I was diagnosed at 51 and I have a wonderful life.  I have a boy & a girl.  They each have a 50% chance of being BRCA positive.  I have spent time talking to them about what that could mean to them.  My daughter and I have talked about her having her kids early and taking steps to reduce risk (proph. mast. & oophorectomy) if she is positive.  She's 17 and they only test adults.  My kids give me such joy I could never imagine life without them. 

    I like to read your posts to see if I can help any of you with what I experienced.  I probably come across as a germaphobe, however, that couldn't be further from the truth.  I live on a farm with critters (chickens, horses etc...) I realized while I was walking back to the barn near the end of treatment that I felt like I was 100 years old because I had to stop at least 3 times to catch my breath but told myself I was just 'visiting' OLD.  I had to quit scooping poop and tried not to invite trouble.   

    Ladies, there will be some really good things when you are done with all this.  Like how soft your hair is when it comes back in, how good your complexion is, how good everything taste and how you will never take for granted having energy again!      

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited May 2014

    Thanks Lovie!  Love the "visiting" old comment.  And yes it has already given me a new perspective on what I do with my time and  energy when I have it!

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2014

    lady I am dizzy after AC.  :(. It has slowly gone away but eugghhhh.  

    So I have never had the nerve to dye my hair until today. I am normally a blonde so I took the opportunity to see what I look like with darker hair. I let me 8 and 11 year old dye it for me. I figured it will be gone soon enough and it's not too bad. Next weekend will be the cut and than shave. 

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    I hope everyone is having an okay weekend and the side effects aren't too bad. I figured out that Wednesday and Thursday are my really bad days. I am not looking forward to his week. Onc appt and lots of running around. :( 

  • merg
    merg Member Posts: 61
    edited May 2014

    Hey Ya'll, I'm taking someone's advice( iforgot who, sorry) & going to be proactive before the next "Chair Day". Where did the constipation come from? What a crappy day today. I finally got it out both ways. Even after I took the nausea pills. So before next treatment I will take all the pills I'm supposed too. Happy Weekend Ya'll.

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