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CelineFlower
CelineFlower Member Posts: 875

I believe that BCO uses vbulletin

http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/vb2_manual_cp_u...

Do you want to set up a private forum that can only be viewed by your
moderators? Would you like all users to have to register in order to
view your bulletin board forums? Would you like to give two users access
to a private forum?



It's possible to accomplish all of these tasks by harnessing the power of vBulletin's user groups and permissions system!



What is a User Group?



A user group is just what it sounds - a group of users. By default, the vBulletin software includes the following user groups:

  • (COPPA) Users Awaiting Moderation
    - all users that have not been validated by an administrator or
    moderator will be included in this group (for bulletin boards that
    require user accounts to be validated by an administrator).
  • Administrator - all vBulletin administrators are included in this group.
  • Moderators - all vBulletin moderators are included in this group.
  • Registered - this group is populated with all the standard users.
  • Super Moderator - this group contains all the super moderators. A super moderator can moderate all forums on the bulletin board.
  • Unregistered / Not Logged In - this group contains all visitors to the bulletin board who have not logged in, or haven't registered for a user account.
  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation - if you have
    configured your vBulletin forum to require email verification before the
    registration is completed, all users in this group have registered, but
    haven't yet activated their account.

In order to control user's access to your bulletin board, each
group has a comprehensive set of options that influence exactly what a
member of the group has permission to view/do on your bulletin board.
For example, a user that belongs to the "Registered" user group has
permission to view the board and post messages, but he/she can't access
the control panel or post public events on the vBulletin calendar.



95% of all permissions-based configuration will be dealt with by editing
the existing seven standard user groups. By editing a user group
option, you can change the permissions for a particular set of users
across the whole bulletin board. If you would like to alter a user
groups options for a particular forum only, you can set up custom forum
permissions. Let's take a look at three practical scenarios:



1. Jack would like to force all users to register for the bulletin board before they can view the forums.



In this case, Jack would need to turn off the can view board option for all user groups apart from Registered, Moderators and Administrators.



2. Jill would like to set up a private forum for administrators only.



Since these permissions changes affect just a single forum (not all
forums), Jill can accomplish this configuration by turning off the can view forum and can post new threads options (for this forum only) for all user groups apart from the Administrators.



Now we've dealt with the theory behind setting up permissions on your
vBulletin forums, let's take a look at the admin control panel options.

Comments

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited April 2014

    Flower!  I just can't for the life of me, figure out what you are hell-bent on doing on BC.ORG!   It's like you are on a private mission, to change everything that everyone else ON here looks for!  

    This really IS a great place, and those thousands  of us that post here, like the way things are right now!   We don't need any changes that you suggest... not that the Mods would even listen, but your  refusal to "fit in" here, is not even helping you! 

    Join a group.... like the rest of us!  Or just go ahead and start a few more topics on your own!    Wishing you luck, on whatever it is you are doing.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited April 2014

    I can't figure out what you want.  I don't think you do either.  There is a forum for each stage and it is only common courtesy and common sense to let some forums be.  You have NO idea how some people feel.

  • Monis
    Monis Member Posts: 472
    edited April 2014
  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited April 2014

    monis,

    That is hysterical! I agree, the horse has had enough.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited April 2014

    Monis that's hysterical.

    Well I'm of a simple mind now a days  but it was confusing for me--I'm comfortable the way things are and Sometimes I'll poke in a new thread to see what it's all about--but I so enjoy my favs and get good feelings from them and would like them to be easily open for new people to come to.

  • CelineFlower
    CelineFlower Member Posts: 875
    edited April 2014

    geez... ive never been so misunderstood in my life...

    is it what im typing? or what you are reading??

    im not defending myself anymore... im not attacking anyone or anything... all i want is to discuss change...

    as for me understanding how others feel... well you and everyone here... obviously doesnt understand me and has 0 clue about who/what i am... this is probably my fault in the way i represent myslf in my posts...

    so i guess its understandable that you think this way...

    My mission is not a bco mision...its a life mission

    1- be the change i wish to see in the world

    2- face my fears 

    3-Keep my voice strong against bullying/harrassement/discrimination and not let Hate rule

    im not always successful... but i  try my best.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited April 2014

    Flower, I don't think you are "misunderstood" exactly, I just think we don't not always WANT change!   If you don't like the way certain threads or forums are run, or you are not being "understood," than maybe you should find other forums to join.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited May 2014

    At the risk of beating the proverbial horse, I think chevyboy put it well. You are being heard and I believe you are being understood. But, perhaps, just perhaps, you might want to consider the possibility that your view on changes that need to be made are not widely shared. Yes, there are members who agree with you but it does not seem like there is overwhelming support for your suggestions at this time.

  • Lauriesh
    Lauriesh Member Posts: 692
    edited April 2014

    I agree with Chevy. Is making stage 4 a private thread that you can't see best for you? It has already been stated that would not be the best for newly stage 4 who are able to find it easily because it is public.

    Shouldn't a stage 4 forum be kept the way that is the best for stage 4 patients? Most stage 4 patients ( and really most of bco from reading the comments) think it should be left the way it is. Can't you accept it and move on? You seem to think this is some great injustice that needs to be challenged. There are many,many greater  examples of discrimination and harassment occuring in this world that you could focus on and help to change rather than focusing on a group of terminally ill women looking for support from others who are in the same boat.

    Laurie

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited April 2014

    * when you find forums and threads where you can get and give friendship, information and support....hang out there

    * when there are forums for specific groups of people (stage forums, chemo forums, triple negative forums, anti-hormonal forums, alternative forums etc. etc.) respect that the people who should be posting on them are the people facing the specific challenges of that group.(Other than to offer best wishes or sympathy...which I believe should cross all forums.)....if you really, truly feel that you have something of importance to add to a topic, private message the poster so that she/he can decide if it is something valuable to answer their concern and let them decide if they want to share your thought/idea with their group.

    * If a certain forum, topic, or person drives you crazy....choose not to read what they say....or block them so you can't!

  • jramick
    jramick Member Posts: 88
    edited April 2014

    More power to Celine for her efforts in discussing change!  I don't think she should be criticized for all the time and thought she put into this.  The posts that gave birth to her ideas might change people's opinions.

    I do not necessarily agree or disagree with site structure and technical changes, but support the basis for making changes.  The overall mission of BCO should apply to every forum and discussion which should be upheld by the members regardless of an ONLY forum.

    I think these discussions are good to remind everyone how we should respond and support each other.  Celine...I am sorry that you have received so many negative responses from members here!!!!

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited April 2014

    Celine -- It's probably wise to remember that, unless you have a financial interest in this website, or have made a donation to it, you are availing yourself (as are we all) of a social medium that we don't pay for.  BCO has made significant changes to the site over the past several years, knowing that these changes will not please 100% of its members.  I daresay many of us have some little difficulty -- mine happens to be that I use an Apple MacPro, and its just isn't compatible with BCO regarding c/p and photo posting.

    Okay, I can live with that.  Perhaps it's time that you choose either to "live with" BCO as it is, or find another website more to your liking, OR found (and pay for) your own website dedicated to breast cancer.

    From one Canuck to another -- Bonne chance!

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited April 2014

    Celine, I think I understand you and what you're trying to do. I think you just want to help, am I right? I feel the same way. After all, if we can't share our experiences to make someone else's life better, what's the point of the board?  That's a great thing and ultimately it's not the problem. Just yesterday there was some tedious post on the Stage IV forum that offended me (and I'm all for anyone posting anywhere). When questions are asked about trivial things on that forum, it pisses people off. I'm speaking for myself here, but my patience level is waaaayyyy down for trivial things when you know you're not going to be able to see life past 50 and suffer like hell in the meantime. I am always open to support, kindness and information from any stage, and that's how the Stage IV board USED to be back in the day. What ended up happening though, is that sometimes, someone, perhaps new to the boards, would come to that forum and say something to the effect of (and this is only an anaology) "I have this lump on my toe....I'm so scared it's mets". I'm all for helping anyone out, but sorry, I couldn't really give a sh*t if someone has a sore toe,  while I'm struggling to get to the bathroom and trying not to barf on myself. Having said that, most, if not all people understand that the little things don't matter to someone who's dying, but unfortunately, every once in a while, you read a post from a "toe person". You can't unread it, your emotions overwhelm you and you stew about comparing your imminent death with their toe. Do you get what I mean? Because of that, its probably best that the forum stay exclusive.

    I am going to stick my neck out however, that what I personally would like to see is varying Stage IV forums. I know someone will probably mention that we have the palliative forum for that, but I myself am unable to make a commitment to an "I'm going to die" forum. I can't bring myself to go there just yet.  For me, it would just be nice to share with others with very advanced disease as opposed to lesser degrees of the disease, but that's just me. Sometimes I can't even deal with posts from other Stage IV women, so I completely understand why the majority want to feel protected. I'm pretty good at keeping my emotions in check, and if a post from another metster pisses me off, I can only imagine what it would feel like coming from someone who has their life ahead of them.

    So you can see, we all want what we want, but it can't happen. This is a HUGE place and the mods have done what they can to protect everyone's feelings. It's not exclusion, it's protection. That's the downside of a board this size, but at the same time, it's the benefit. In a perfect world, everyone would be respectful of others' feelings, but that's not how the world works. 

    I hate to see anyone take a verbal beating, so I hope you can see the point I'm trying to make, but at the same time I totally get where your coming from because I like you, I suspect, want to help when you can. The problem lies in the nature of the disease itself. It's all about varying degrees and there's no easy way to acccomodate everyone. Since that big upheaval of the Stage IV forum, I had to learn to use the board differently to keep myself happy. I now do searches for pertinent information, use my ignore button for both members and forums and keep in touch privately with like minds. It really does help. Perhaps you can find your own way to deal with how the board is segregated. It's unfortunate, but necessary and very unlikely to change. I don't like it, but found a way to handle it. I'd hate to think you left because of it when there is so much information to be had by all stages.

    Best wishes to you Celine.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited April 2014

    So many reasons to put this dead horse out of it's misery. Discussion, debate etc. are wonderful, however when it becomes an endless circle, it accomplishes nothing and in this case does little more than foster divisions and hard feelings. Everyone has made their current position clear, most especially, the mods.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited April 2014

    I think the repeated threads on a topic the mods closed to discussion is not only disrespectful (both to the mods and the women "dying") but a sign to me of someone who is being irrational. Celine you are displaying very little self awareness here (no support for your cause) and it is troubling. I wonder if something is going on that you need to talk to someone about?

  • angiephnx
    angiephnx Member Posts: 36
    edited May 2014

    I don't think that making the stage 4 forums private is the answer.  I know from my own experience when I was first diagnosed with cancer only 2 years ago I began searching the Internet for any information I could find about my condition.  This website was the best site I found that provided first hand experiences of people who had been there, which I appreciated very much.  As I went along with my treatments I would follow each corresponding board along the way.  I'd follow the chemo board while in chemo, the surgical board when getting ready for my bilateral mastectomy, etc.  I also followed the under 40 board because at my diagnosis I was 38.  Because this website has provided so much info to me, I could not imagine keeping even one board private on this site.  I would not want some woman out there who was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer from the start be denied of information which would be valuable to her.  We all know when we start looking for information we want it now.  We don't want to wait for special permission to see something.

      I wish I never HAD to see the stage 4 forums.

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