Skin S.O.S. - Scar Remedies

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2013

    I agree, Sciencegal, I'm now at the stage to deal with the scars, thanks for making this current! It's amazing how on BCO when I need to learn something, it just appears!

  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited June 2013

    I agree- BCO rules!

    I have learned much more on this board, from the brave women who have been through everything before me, than I ever learned from my team of doctors. My docs are great but just haven't been there like we have.

    Thank you to everyone!!!!!

  • Hummingb1rd
    Hummingb1rd Member Posts: 49
    edited October 2013


    Hi Ladies. I just thought I'd give a little feedback about a couple things I've tried for hypertropic scars. I tried the Tropol Active cream. To be honest, it made my scars darker. I tried it on other normal scars on different parts of my body and the same thing happened. Hope it works for everyone else, but I did not have good results. I did go for the laser treatments that are for removing tattoos & red coloration from scars. The first treatment worked great! and I saw improvements after it healed in a month, but the second treatment (which she increased the strength) did not help. It made them redder. So I would consider going back for another treatment at the lower strength. Because of the BMX and loss of feeling, I assumed I wouldn't feel anything. I think because the hypertropic scars have nerves, I felt more than I thought, but not bad at all. At the higher strength, it felt like a sparkler hitting the areas around the scars, so I did feel some of that on my upper torso of normal skin. Just like the 4th of July:) It's definitely worth looking into. I did use the silicone strips after all of my surgeries. They did help for the time I used them. But, I found it a pain to cut, wash & dry them & reapply, probably because the large areas to cover. They can get expensive if you have large, long scars like mine. With my type of scarring, I would have had to use them for a long, long time. If the strips are not completely dry, you risk getting a fungal infection so just make sure they are nice & dry. That happened to me, and it's more common when it is hot & sweaty. After every surgery, I've had 7, the scars look the same no matter what I did. The massaging & lotion does help, especially with the itching. The vitamin E and Fish Oil actually made me break out with acne around the scars. (I'm acne prone anyway. I'm over 40 & still fighting acne. Who knew.) Hope that helps someone.

  • Linda54
    Linda54 Member Posts: 2,689
    edited October 2013


    Hummingb1rd, I tried the Tropel Active cream without results. I also tried the silicone strips but because where my scars are they were a big pain to deal with. I had LD recon. I had some excess skin at the top of the scars on my back so my PS used that excess skin to make areolas. It is those extended scars on my back that have stayed red. I cannot wear sundresses/swimsuits or anything that might expose those scars. I don't like people asking "what happened to you?" So the location is very difficult to deal with..even massaging with lotion. I looked into tattooing them with pretty birds or flowers but was told the ink would just run under the scars and not look good. At least the tattooist was honest with me. I think I have tried everything (been 4 years since the areola grafting surgery) except the laser you mentioned in your post. Where did you go to have the laser treatments done....to a plastic surgeon or dermatologist? I have just about given up. Just hoping that maybe in time they will fade :-(

  • Hummingb1rd
    Hummingb1rd Member Posts: 49
    edited October 2013


    Hi Linda54. So glad you responded. In Visalia, CA there is a place called Creekside Day Spa. They have two parts to their clinic. One is for regular spa treatments and the other is a laser center run by a plastic surgeon, Dr. Stevens. All the technicians I've been introduced to are licensed nurses with quite a lot of experience. What I tried was called the RevLite. I'll copy info here for you. It may be something you could actually find closer to where you live, maybe with a local dermatologist or plastic surgeon.


    I've been afraid to go ahead with the nipple recon & tattooing because I'm worried I'll end up with a whole, new bunch of hypertropic scars. I'm very curious what your opinion is and if you found other ladies who successfully had it done with no scarring. Did the tattoos scar in any way?


    I hate my scars too. There's nothing better than adding a little humor to your life, especially with things we cannot change. So I say this with humor and lightheartedness....I think you should come up with a great shark attack story and deliver it with a serious face and enjoy the stunted looks on faces you tell the story to. It may be great, innocent fun. I've been unfortunately sick most of my adult life and my career never really took off. I became a happy stay at home mom but no great career honors. My husband had an executive job that meant we had to go to dinner parties and get to togethers with highly educated and polished people. I felt a little insecure, especially when I said I was a stay at home mom. I actually had a guy laugh in my face and walk away. My husband and I laughed one night that I should make up the most ridiculous occupation I could think of and deliver it with a seriousness in that kind of crowd. We spent many nights laughing till tears because I was a specialized cryptozoologist that searched for scat droppings associated with a potential sasquatch sittings in the wooded areas of the United States. (No offense to anyone who has that job). It became quite a hoot watching the faces of some of the executives and it became a fun game. So I say go for a great shark story and wear your pretty dresses:)


    I do want to share with you ladies that I have found a couple great make-ups online that covers scars. I even bought the sealer that helps it to be waterproof. It's called Colortration. You can order a sample kit that has a variety of shades in it to find what matches best. I also use Este Lauder Double Wear Maximum Coverage in the blue bottle used for camouflage. My daughter has serious acne and we use it daily to cover up the redness and use it every time she goes swimming. I use it too, especially on hard to cover spots & always when in the water. I did try to see what I would look like without scars and covered the miles of incision lines from surgery. It actually gave me hope that one day they'll be better & in the mean time, I can cover them up. If you seal the make-up with the sealer, it is not supposed to rub off. So, for intimate times, I do like it for that reason & it makes me feel better. Best wishes.




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  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited October 2013


    I had pulse dyed laser treatments on my scars and it worked very well. My BMX was many years ago and I had implants replaced once before I had DIEP in 2012. I had the laser treatments about 4 years ago. My dermatologist's laser tech did it. She recommended a series of 3 - 4 treatments about 4 weeks apart. It took about 6 months after the last treatment for the raised red scar to calm down and flatten out. It was a lot less visible. My derm didn't think it would work as the scar was almost 10 years old, but I was pleased with the results. My PS for DIEP told me that it would take about 2 years for the incisions to achieve their final look. At that point, if they are still red and raised I will go for more laser. Unfortunately insurance doesn't cover the cost.

  • whitedove
    whitedove Member Posts: 292
    edited February 2014

    I would start massaging after they stopped feeling tender. 3 1/2 years post BMX my scars remain dark but less hard. I use emu oil on them daily and it has been a godsend.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2014

    I really found the ScarAway silicone strips worked great to soften and flatten my scars. Did help a little with the redness too. 

    Whitedove I find my scars continue to get lighter and lighter. It's been about 3.5 years for me too.

  • warmsmartcookie
    warmsmartcookie Member Posts: 40
    edited February 2014

    Hi all:

    Here are some of a few methods I heard about and/or used and was wondering if you had heard anything. What I've always heard is that rebuilding up the collagen is critical to improve scars. I am a little confused about immediate post-op treatment of incisions and what I should do. Wonder if anyone has tried and true advice on the post op procedures that help.

    I see a lot of creams etc recommended and I just wonder if there are before and after photos that can show breast reconstruction results.

    Adhesions and trauma scars (from a failed flap): My PS was able to surgically revise these hideous scars, remove the adhesion, and close the scar so that it looks infinitely better. It was covered by insurance as part of my exchange surgery.

    Scar revisions for keloid scars (these are evidently reimbursed by insurance). My PS takes the keloid and simply reopen the scar, remove the keloid, and make tiny criss cross incisions with creates a visual camouflage for the scar line. It has worked every time for me on the really tough scars. I recommend that over anything else.

    Microneedling with Retin A or Vita C to build collagen. On older flatter scars, this easy and cheap procedure is supposed to be pretty effective at building up collagen and improving surgical scars. http://owndoc.com/dermarolling/dermarolling-microneedling-hype-realistic-results/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2840919/  I have used it myself but never documented results. I will try to do so for my reconstruction scars.

    Fraxel Laser: I'm waiting to get a quote from a skin laser PS with fractional laser technology. Here is a link to some examples of what I'm talking about: http://www.aboutlasertreatments.com/Your-Skin-Con...

  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited February 2014

    I am not sure that Fraxel is what you want for surgical scars.  Usually V-beam is best and does a great job.  i have used it.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited February 2014

    Hi Folks, reposting this on some threads, may be old news to some, but to good of info not to pass this on, particularly if scars are painful,Sassy

    Cam00205Bluebird144…NJJoined: Apr 2013Posts: 393

    13 hours agoBluebird144 wrote:

    Knitted Knockers Charities is a non-profit that exists to provide free patterns for knitters and crocheters to be able to make knockers and help mastectomy patients get freeKnitted Knockers made by volunteers.

    I love my Knitted Knockers! They are light and soft and warm. Unlike my silicone prosthetic which is heavy and cold when first worn, then it later causes me to sweat.

    I wear my knitted knockers inside a regular bra or tucked in the pocket of a mastectomy bra. They are beautiful, and a godsend to those of us with an uneven mastectomy scar.

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    Knitted knockers website:

    http://www.knittedknockers.info/

    Fall down seven times, stand up eight.

    Surgery 09/09/2009 Prophylactic Ovary Removal (Both)Chemotherapy 02/06/2013 Adriamycin, Cytoxan, TaxolSurgery 07/19/2013 Mastectomy (Both); Lymph Node Removal: Sentinel Lymph Node Dissection, Axillary Lymph Node Dissection (Left); Reconstruction: DIEP flap (Both)Surgery 08/20/2013 Reconstruction (Right)Surgery 08/28/2013 Mastectomy (Right)Radiation Therapy 10/14/2013 3-D conformal external beam radiationSurgery 01/24/2014 Reconstruction: Tissue expander placement (Right)

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited February 2014

    Hi, I was spamming with the knitted knockers and saw your thread. Thanks for the info here will keep it in my FAVS in case anyone needs it. Oh please, don't report me for spamming:) sassy

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited February 2014

    Whitedove, this is an old inactive thread. I bump it once and awhile or send it to someone that may need help with incisions and wound care. I did some wound care stuff on it. Retired nurse. I know you are specifically working on scars, but there may be a useful line or two Sassy

    http://community.breastcancer.org/topic_post?forum...

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited March 2014
  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited March 2014

    SAS - love your new avatar.  Spring is almost here!!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited March 2014

    Minus we were doing bluebirds in support of Bluebird who had an emergency brain sx. Someone on another thread suggested it. bluebirds alllllllll over the place :) We got word tonight she's doing okay. YAY. Join us on Insomnia thread sassy :)

  • whitedove
    whitedove Member Posts: 292
    edited April 2014

    thanks for bumping Sas-schatzi! Glad to see you on the boards again. Hope all is well.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited April 2014

    Thanks white dove, turned out to be papilaryfollicular carcinoma. Just one more for the list. Join us on Insomnia thread----it's crazy and moves fast, but it's fun----were all forgetfull anywayLOL.

    Minus I already changed it to my Schatzi---finally learned how to do an avatar----copied lots----I was the Madhatter last week , then picasso's flowers, then schatzi. Minus you came then I haven't seen you again.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited April 2014

    SAS - I read for a couple of days but just couldn't keep up.  Once I feel comfortable dropping some of the active treatment threads - I'll be back.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited April 2014

    Minus--okey dokey :)

    Using cocoa butter on thyroid incision/scar line looking good Yay sassy

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited April 2014
  • LilacBlue
    LilacBlue Member Posts: 1,636
    edited April 2014

    I've been using essential K stretch marks cream on my hip-to-hip flap scar and left breast and getting good results.  I've recently read that Sheald Recovery Balm is fantastic on surgical scaring.  This will be my next product purchase and will report back on my findings.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2014


    Bump---Some great suggestions here. Keep it in your favs. Bump it once in awhile, if you see that it's out of date Thanks sassy.

  • CLYDAY
    CLYDAY Member Posts: 81
    edited May 2014

    has anyone tried using the silicone gel strips along with a topical product such at emu oil or Tropol?? I am only 10 days out and still have one drain in so cannot start applying anything till the wounds heal up!  I have very olive skin and my mastectomy scars did not look bad at all just using coconut oil and daily massages.....my scars now look like they will be just as good....I am not up to spending a ton on a high end product especially when the only one who till see them is my husband and me!! I would like them to smooth out and fade a little if possible! This thread has been very helpful and I have taking plenty of notes!!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited May 2014

    I used just the silicon strips on my scars. I found they flattened and softened them up nicely.

  • pinklotus
    pinklotus Member Posts: 31
    edited May 2014

    I had breast reconstruction surgery on March 10.  The swelling is gone but on one side I have scars that are harder.  That is the breast that I've had past biopsies done.  I have been massaging and using castor oil to soften.  This side hasn't softened or moved into the pocket like the other side and the outside of the bottom is flattened because the scarring is distorting the implant.  Any advice?  I stretch this side well and teach gentle yoga that creates space and lengthening in the chest.  I do feel pulling in the bottom portion.  The incision is inframammary (under the breast).  I just want to avoid additional surgery and we'll address that in late August if this doesn't soften.  I'm ready for this to be done.  

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited July 2014


    PINKLOTUS MIGHT BE WORTH AN EXTRA VISIT TO ps OFFICE TO MAKE SURE SOMETHING ELSE ISN'T GOING ON.

    LOL sorry, didn't notice caps on. Too tired to retype Hugs, not really yelling :) sassy

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited March 2015


    Bump, I occassionaly bump this thread to keep it active. Many have offered suggestions :)

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited March 2015

    SAS - thanks. I try to remember to bump the constipation thread too.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited April 2015

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