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  • Leah_S
    Leah_S Member Posts: 8,458
    edited April 2014

    Well, Sunflowers, I was the 6th grade spelling champion but I NEVER did as well as you.

    Leah

  • DeliriumPie
    DeliriumPie Member Posts: 1,370
    edited April 2014

    I don't feel like cancer has made me a better person either. Quite honestly, I'm a heck of a lot bitchier and I seem to get a lot less done. 

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited April 2014

    If I take this "gift" to Nordstrom's can I return it? They are famed for their excellent customer service even going so far as to give refunds on things they've never sold. I don't know if cancer had made me bitchier but it has made me a bit more selfish with my time and energy. I do what I want much more often or do nothing at all at times. Overall, cancer hasn't changed me as much as I would have thought. I kind of like that.

    Caryn

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2014

    Cancer made me even MORE intolerant of stupidity!! I just cannot STAND the dumbing down of North America!!!

  • DeliriumPie
    DeliriumPie Member Posts: 1,370
    edited April 2014

    lovely sentiments kayb!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2014

    Leah - I don sphull so good, but I did make a GREAT tee shirt for the Month of October:  PHUQUE PINK

    I was learning to be "constructively selfish" long b4 bc, but I notice now I am not willing to put up with anything I don't want to be with, around, near, or hear, see or smell!

    The 'dumbing down' of the USA is so TRAGIC.  Since when, and who the phuque decided that a characteristic of the President of the United States should be "someone we'd want to have a beer with?"  I MEAN WHO????  I want a person a lot (LOT) smarter, wiser, more compassionate and all that stuff than I am, or will ever be.  Don't get me started....this celebrity culture has run seriously amok, and yes, I DID cancel my Vogue subscription, and my Vanity Fair along with it.  Gar-baaaaaaage, Diana Vreeland must be screaming in her grave.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited April 2014

    Sunflowers, I like the T-shirt slogan. I may just steal it.

    Delirium, I loved this one, tiny study I found on survival and attitude among stage 4 women. The researchers expected to find good 'tude = good survival. Not! They had to conclude that the bitchiest women lived the longest. So those of you who are bitchier after cancer, keep up the good work! 

    I do think cancer has changed me, or perhaps not changed exactly. It is more that it has shifted which of my traits are more dominant. Also, I made a conscious decision that I will no longer put up with being made miserable, so I am definitely better about removing myself from situations and relationships that do not work.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2014

    Hey, when I said North America, that includes Canada, too, eh?

    My Dad used to tell me to not let anyone see how smart I was so someone would love me!!! Even as an adult he would tell me that. He said I intimidated people. Wow! Glad I didn't listen to him! He also told me if I lost some weight my DH would love me more!! 

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited April 2014

    I always said that I didn't want cancer to change me, but I've noticed that - like barbe - not only I have developed an incredibly low tolerance for stupidity and wilful ignorance, I've lost my mouth filter.  Things I used to keep to myself, now - somehow - fall out before I can choke them back.  I've, also, developed a high-tuned level of snark that I didn't have before or is more evident because of the lack of mouth filter.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited April 2014

    Maybe they need to give us one of these when we finish chemo:

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  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited April 2014

    HA! 

    (And that's about the look I get on my face when dealing with well-meaning friends and relatives have all sorts of crazy, unadulterated woo they want me to try because I'll be "cured.)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2014

    barbe, you will NEVER ( NEVAH) convince me that Canada is as dumbdowned as the USA. Nevah.  I shudder at the "americanization" of the world, when I lived in London, in the 1970's, and saw my first KFC, I nearly got sick on the street!   Seriously.  We ma have "imported" the idea of some of the "reality tv" from other parts, but we've definitely degraded it more than one can imagine.  And, I have to imagine, cuz I've never watched.  Just read about it online.

    Momine - IT'S YOURS!  PHUQUE PINK.  AND ALL PINKWASHING.  If I hear one more of think green live pink, buy pink guns, "waddle for the cure" ( do ya think we'd get sued for holding an event called Waddle for the Cure) - horrendous, it has almost come to the time where we need to cut the month of october out of the calendar.

    Now Selena, next time any one tries to give you woo, I think you should tell them to put it where the coffeeenemas are supposed to go ;-)

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited April 2014

    I'll send them to link to orac's view on coffee enemas.  Still howl when I re-read it.  (Thanks, Momine.)

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited April 2014

    It is a beautiful essay, it really is 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2014

    Does everyone know about Respectful Insolence?

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited April 2014

    SunflowersMA,  LOL!  You seriously could make a ton of moolah if you can copyright that phrase and get t-shirts on the market by next Oct.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2014

    orac is still around? Did she really have breast cancer? Is that the one I'm thinking of....

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2014

    elimar - it's yours - go for it.  Really.  I'm not into making money....just painting now.... ;-)

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited April 2014

    Barbe... orac is a breast cancer surgeon and cancer researcher specialising in breast cancer who is adamantly against complementary- and alternative medicine (CAM), and the anti-vaccination movement, which he frequently blasts in one of his on-line blogs called "Respectful Insolence".  He is a great de-constructionist and has a wonderful level of snark that I enjoy.

    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/author/oracknows/

    As much as I enjoy his blog, I disagree with part of his stance CAM.  I, personally, do feel that there is a role for CAM in cancer treatment, as long as it's kept in perspective.  For example, various herbs, aromatherapy and accupuncture will never cure/prevent cancer, but they can help alleviate the nausea and vomiting, pain, insomnia, depression and the stress- and anxiety of cancer treatment.  However, I am adamantly against the unfounded claims of most CAM treatments and their consistent twisting of scientific fact (or lack thereof) to suck in desperate cancer patients and their families, or to further their own political agenda or financial empire.

    That said, I love his way with words and his level of knowledge, although he can be a little repetitive in his blog subjects.

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited April 2014

    Sorry, kayb, we cross-posted!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited April 2014

    Selena, agree on all your points about Orac. It also bugs me that he likes to use the word "cure." He, more than most people, ought to know that there is no cure.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited April 2014

    I agree to, regarding orac. I see no harm, and potential good in anything that makes someone feel better or provides symptom relief. However, those who comment on the blog are sharks! Sarcastic, name calling, mud slinging,and snarky. A very rough crowd, indeed.

    Caryn

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2014

    Hmm, obviously confusing him with some other troll.....

    Have to laugh when CAM patients FIGHT the chemo they are being given by using alternative herbs and crap. I mean, seriously folks!!! Our bodies don`t run on green grass and fresh air!! They run on electrical synapses with chemical cocktails that can still boggle the scientific mind. Why do you think chemo is chemicals....eh?

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited April 2014

    I agree.  It's one thing to use the term amongst colleagues who understand the nuances and realities behind it and another to use it with a frightened, confused, overwhelmed, recently-diagnosed patient who could totally misinterpret what is, actually, being "meant".

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2014

    Agree with all, think there is MUCH good in CAM, diet, David Serban-Shriver (sp?) but also appreciate Orac trying to get ride of the woo. Coffee enemas, etc.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited April 2014

    Barbe,

    Although we all have our own opinions, orac has his own blog which promotes science based medicine. As far as I know, he does not participate in trolling behavior on other sites.

    Caryn

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited April 2014

    Kayb and Selena, I completely agree. I prefer to say that my cancer is in remission, because to me that is the most realistic way of looking at it. Also, given that I take an AI, I am strictly speaking still in treatment, so that is not a "cure."

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2014

    Oh, I didn`t mean that I thought orac was a troll, but I do see how my wording implied that. I`m sure I remember someone with a very similar name that was VERY aggressive on the alternative AND regular threads about how to fight the cancer with stuff like crap from your sink drain, or whatever. 

    I agree that a good diet without added chemicals is healthier, but show me a food product including organic that doesn`t have something in it. Organic is GMO`d stuff now. The only thing that is truly clean is HERITAGE seeds. That`s it. People have been blinded to think organic is `good`, but those plants have to be treated somehow. It`s the `somehow`part that we`ll find out about years from now that will be the bad news......  I know in Japan that human feces is used for fertilizer and they tried that in Mexico years ago on strawberries and got caught!! So, you really want an organic berry? I`ll take mine with chemicals, please.

    We`re also talking on another thread about `natural flavouring`. Do yàll know that the anal glands of a beaver mimic the taste of vanilla and are added into a lot of our foods? Anal glands are `natural`so it`s allowed under the law. That`s why labels can be so deceiving. I remember when `fat free` stuff started coming out so people thought it was good for diets. Not so much; they were full of carbs for flavour!!!

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited April 2014

    O.K. No more vanilla for me.... Sick

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2014

    ta, ta to vanilla...

    There are several good websites for buying Heritage Seeds.  Esp. tomatoes, they really DO taste like tomatoes.

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