February 2014 Starting Chemo Club

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  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    princessrn I'm sorry I don't remember when. I had other SE that were even more bothersome… the stiffness and my nail lifting/hurting were more of an issue than my taxotears even once chemo ended. I do remember though that about 5 weeks PFC feeling much much better so relief must of started before then. Also note January 18th was my last chemo. The cold, dry and windy Chicago winter made it a lot worse. When  I would go out and powerwalk outside, even with sunglasses tears would be streaming down my face. Not as bad inside. So hopefully since it's spring you won't have as bad of an issue. 

    I grew up SE of Boston (southshore). Both Peabody and Ipswitch are north but I've been there.

  • princessrn
    princessrn Member Posts: 370
    edited April 2014

    Lago thanks...

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited April 2014

    lgoldie, I was never offered any meds, I did insist on pain meds. But they were few & not strong.

    I made it through chemo & 1/2 way through rads then was a mess. PCP gave me lorazepam & some anti-depressant for PTSD. Hard for me to even believe I am writing this, cause my motto has always been "suffer in silence". Wish I had gotten both of them sooner. 

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited April 2014

    Lago...did you do Radiation?  How (or is ) your experience?  

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    No I got a pass on Rads. Usually a tumor over 5cm gets rads even with MX/BMX but my rad onc gave me a pass. I think it was because the tumor was right over the heart in the  posterior region. The risk to heart and lungs wasn't statistically worth the rewards. Given that its been 3.5 years NED with such a fast growing tumor I think my risk of local recurrence has dropped significantly. 

  • babyduck
    babyduck Member Posts: 63
    edited April 2014


    Jules NY. I'm doing 12 weekly Taxol then I will do 4 AC bi-weekly. Had number 8 Friday. It has actually treated me well. I have worked 4 days a week....taking off for AC and surgery though... I think the breast change isn't just IBC. Because mine has done all those things. Oh well...chemo!

    As for all of you talking about tastes.... the sweeter the better!

  • Sicilian
    Sicilian Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2014

    Yes, lago, Taxotere and Cytoxan. Still being patient about the hair and still rubbing my NutriOx on my head after my shower in the morning and before bed at night. The doctor told me not to expect to see anything until the end of April, but, as usual, I'm being short on patience. And YES! The Taxotears and hoarse voice, etc. are enough to drive you nuts! But, this too shall pass. I just keep saying that to myself.

    Jules, my husband was born in Commack. We live in Rockland County now, but he lived there until he was five or six years old.

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited April 2014

    Gotcha babyduck, our treatments are opposite each other. Glad to hear you worked during taxol. I plan on it. I worked during AC, 3 days a week, I normally work 4. My chemo was thurs, the week of I worked in the beginning of the week and the week after I worked at the end. Yeah the whole breast swelling, itching, redness thing happens with any kind of BC if it blocks or invades the lymphatic system of the skin. With IBC it's almost definite. 

  • 3doglady
    3doglady Member Posts: 50
    edited April 2014

    Ladies, I have a side effect that I'd like to know if anyone else experiences/experienced.  I've finished AC (4 dd) and am on #4 of 12 taxols weekly (tomorrow).  I am having what I consider to be a "fullness".  Mostly feel it in my chest (breast/underarms); sometimes have to take an extra deep breath. And in my neck to the point I feel like Im choking. And sometimes gives me pressure in my head.  My blood pressure is fine when they check it at the clinic.  I sometimes feel it prior to a hot flash, but sometimes, it just makes me feel swollen and full - like Im bloated in the chest up.  My gums also pulse, like there is a heart beat in my mouth.  I have gotten this before - long before cancer - and it was associated with anxiety attacks.  I dont feel this is anxiety related.  Any suggestions or thoughts are appreciated!

  • h0pe
    h0pe Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2014

    3dog - we might be having similar SE's. I just had #2 taxol Friday. I often feel tightness in my chest, feel like I have to clear my throat. Did you have a BMx? I attribute some of the tightness to that and my TE's. I don't know if they are SE's, but when I take an ativan, it seems to go away. The nurse practitioner thinks it is anxiety. Every ache and pain makes me nervous now. I'm hoping it gets better with time.

    How's taxol treating you aside from those side effects? I have a port and I swear I can taste the chemo being infused. It makes me nauseated. :( That's probably one of the worst parts of chemo for me. 

    Hope everyone is doing well. We're getting there, ladies....

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    h0pe go get yourself some lemonheads and suck on them during chemo. No you aren't imagining this. I too noticed when they would flush my port.

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    I felt tightness too but no one seemed concerned. Granted 2doglady you're sounds a bit more intense than anything I had. I assume you have reported this to your onc. If not I would call and let them know.

  • h0pe
    h0pe Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2014
  • 3doglady
    3doglady Member Posts: 50
    edited April 2014

    No, I had a partial mastectomy (lumpectomy) but plan on having BMX after chemo due to BRCA1 positive.  I was wondering if the tightness/fullness I'm feeling was associated with the chemo messing with my thyroid.  I dont see my doc for 3 more weeks, but I'll mention it when I go for my infusion tomorrow (Tuesday).  I do get a NASTY taste when they flush the port.  I had one nurse tell me to request the "gourmet" flush, which means they take the saline out of the saline drip bag instead of a prefilled syringe.   Almost eliminates the nasty flush taste.

    And yes, I get the tightness in my chest, too.  This fullness is uncomfortable.  Just didnt know if its a SE or me.  The taxols are not near as bad for me as the AC was, though I must say , I miss my taste buds, get the nasty acidic taste in my saliva about two days after, have more muscle aches and bone pains than before and get more tired at end of day.  

    Thanks for the input.

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited April 2014

    Anyone getting weekly taxol without a port? I completed dd AC x4 without one no problem. Getting a little worried about finding a vein weekly. MO doesn't want to put a port in unless I need one. I'd hate to have to postpone a treatment to get a port. 

  • Njmom3
    Njmom3 Member Posts: 143
    edited April 2014

    Today starts week 1 for taxol.  11 to go! I had to take 3 steroids last night, not sure how I even slept, although not much. I seem to have caught some wicked cold/cough that is non stop coughing. I swear the little tube thing in my port going up my neck is sore!

    Has anyone had any issues with blood draws from their port?  Lately I have to turn my neck to the left and look up, it's weird. One time I had to recline and bend my knees!  With weekly blood draws and tx I hope it holds out!  No problems with infusions just the drawbacks. Ugh!

    I notice my bottom lashes are thinning, some spotty eyebrow loss, hoping my top lashes hang in there!  I must say showering is much quicker with no shaving and a quick shampoo!  Why is it that the guys still take forever in there....  LOL!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    Jules_NY I got chemo the day after my port was installed. My port surgeon was trying to arrange it the same day. There wasn't a seat open. It was 5 days, including the weekend from the day I first met with the port surgeon to installation. Don't worry. If you need one you'll get it pretty quickly.

    Njmom3 some people have issues and some don't. I never had an issue. I had mine in for 2 years. I didn't have a power port though

  • babyduck
    babyduck Member Posts: 63
    edited April 2014

    Njmom..I've had a problems with my port too. I've had 8 weekly Taxol and they have had to take blood from my arm 5 times... Oh well at least it works for the chemo. I think it's all positional...

    Jules...sounds like you tolerated AC good. Taxol should be kind to you too. I've worked four days a week but I'm taking off for the AC. Mainly due to schedules at work. They need someone for vacations and such. Summer college help coming in. It will be easier for all involved. I'm staying home til after surgery. I"m just going to enjoy the time with my teenagers and husband and take care of myself...

    As for those of you talking about fullness. US tech talked to me like chemo really thickens tissue...maybe that is why we feel that way.. I think the chemo/cancer just does stuff to our bodies cuz it's foreign and poison.... I've had swollen lymph nodes in my neck since this all started. My PET shows clear everywhere and MO thinks it's just a reaction my body has to all going on.....

    I guess we just plug along in hopes it's going going gone ! Smile

  • Cannoli1
    Cannoli1 Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2014

    babyduck,

    I will be having my last A/C treatment in a few weeks, and then I will move to 4 treatments of Taxol every two weeks....then I am finished with chemo. I have read many horror stories that have me very frightened regarding neuropathy with Taxol. Have you experienced any type of neuropathy?

  • babyduck
    babyduck Member Posts: 63
    edited April 2014


    Cannoli... on the neuropathy...I had some aches in my calves last Friday (that was #8)...it lasted through Saturday.... That is all I have experieced.... That may not even be neuropathy. My fingernails are a bit sore this week but nothing too bad. I don't know if it helps but I do walk alot....

    How has the AC been for you?

  • lgoldie
    lgoldie Member Posts: 120
    edited April 2014

    I finished AC almost 2 weeks ago, but am still having fast heartbeat and shaky hands several times a day. Onc is convinced it is anxiety.  I have actually considered stopping chemo due to this and I only have 4 Taxols left.  Anyone else have this and if you do, what DO you do to motivate yourself forward?  lgoldie


  • Cannoli1
    Cannoli1 Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2014

    babyduck,

    AC has really not been as bad as I had anticipated, with only 1 AC treatment left, I have not had any nausea or vomiting at all, and I have been able to maintain eating pretty well. After my third treatment this past Friday, I did have a bit of a queasy stomach over the weekend, but it was nothing that kept me from functioning or staying hydrated or eating. I hope my last AC treatment goes as well. Other than my hair falling out, I have had two fingernails that have a very thin black line going vertically up them, but the rest are fine...ironically, my fingernails are still growing like crazy. The taste in my mouth is not always the best. I have been having AC every two weeks, and the taste buds seem to clear up the second week.

    I am sure the walking does help. I like to walk as well, and I get out for a walk each day; at least 1-2 miles. I live in Florida, so I will be relying on my treadmill pretty soon with the heat of summer approaching.

  • Lisaj514
    Lisaj514 Member Posts: 719
    edited April 2014

    ok so those starting taxol, look into icing hands and feet. I've posted info and pics on the December chemo thread and mikesgirl has as well. I have not had any or maybe slight occasional tingling in my fingertips that went away. I also took L glutamine (mixed in juice) 3xday day before, day of and day after taxol treatment. Also taking vit b6. These are all supposed to help with nerve function, recovery. It has helped me I'm assuming. My MO and another integrative medicine doc recommended all as well. I've heard some facilities have started supplying ice mitts and booties but not many I think. You can make your own ice packs and bring them in in a cooler and keep hands/ fingers and feet cold during treatment which supposedly constricts the blood vessels to extremities and prevents the drug from getting there.

    Lgoldie- I also had fast heart beat when on ac. Mine never went over 100 though so they weren't concerned but it was bothersome to me especially when sleeping, I'd feel my heart thumping. Usually ran in high 80s and 90s. I was also getting chest pressure and coughing. Saw cardiologist for holter monitor, stress test, EKG, again, and echo, again. Nothing found and said my heart was healthy and just SE for me but not affecting my heart. It has come gradually come down and now runs in the 70s, still high for me but I'm not bothered by it. The adriamycin can have a SE affecting the heart so keep asking about it if it bothers you or goes up above 100. I've tried meditation and relax tech which can help. I just finished my last taxol yesterday so it was a happy day for me!!! Get my port out on 5/12 and will start rads in 3-4 weeks

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited April 2014

    lago thanks. That puts my mind at ease a bit

    Lgoldie my heart beat is occasionally fast too. But mostly it is loud or I have a thumping sensation in my ears and neck. Especially the 3-4 days after AC.  Are you short if breath too? I'm sorry it is making you want to stop. Have you tried anti anxiety meds? My MO gave me a script for Xanax along with all my other meds on the first visit almost like it was standard. Haven't taken it yet but they are there if I need them. Is there a social worker where you get your treatments? Maybe talking to someone will help. Anxiety is a funny thing. You may not realize that is what you are feeling. Since taxol seems to be easier on a lot of people stick it out till you know what that is like. How were you affected by AC other than the fast heart rate. It made me extremely depressed the 3-4 days after. I could not function, everything I did felt like I was running a marathon. And the fact that it got worse before it got better was so overwhelming. I remember trying to put my daughters hair in a ponytail 3 days post chemo and I felt like my arms weighed 50 lbs each. My heart started pounding and I had to lay down I think I cried for an hour before I fell asleep. I don't remember if you said you saw a cardiologist but consider it. Pour it all out here we got your back girl!!!!! 

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited April 2014

    I had vague and odd chest 'twinges'...they would be so fleeting it was hard to pinpoint or wonder if it was just the TE.  The MO checked my ekg and all was well.  I will assume it is nothing major and move on.

    I too have iced hands and feet every Taxol treatment.  My first week of Tax left me feet peeling and tender; but has since resolved with the icing.  I read that the period of going from AC to Taxol (or other changes to chemo) can exacerbate the hand and foot syndrome.  Highly recommend the icing...I start about 10 min. before taxol begins and leave it the entire hour infusion.  If you don't, it wont be effective.

    I find the chemo leaves me with a 'foamy' feeling in the back of my throat...like I want to spit (very lady like).

    These TE were installed on Dec. 23 and will most likely be there til early November!!  The PS said he likes to wait 3 months post radiation.  Is anyone else getting similar information?

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    jbokland that is correct. You want to wait at least 3 months if you have had rads. You want that skin to have time to heal. Some people heal faster than others so that's why I say at least 3 months. I didn't do rads but I had to delay my exchange surgery by 6 weeks because I got a major case of shingles after chemo. PS would touch me till all the burning sensation and leasions were gone.

  • Njmom3
    Njmom3 Member Posts: 143
    edited April 2014

    So I had my first taxol and it went well - no allergic reactions but... I have to go for a port study. I made a comment that I could feel sometimes meds going in and the nurse freaked and called the dr without me knowing because she is afraid I may have a leak. She wanted to do taxol by IV in my arm and I refused. I said I think it's just a temp change when meds go in. So she used the port and it was fine. But now she called and said dr wants this study.   Does it never end...

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    Is the study voluntary? 

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited April 2014


    hey everyone :)

    I had number 4 TAC Thursday and managed to have a nice weekend. Sunday my ass was kicked though and I've struggled ever since. My stomach is hurting and bloated, first time I've had this SE. Also, I started having sharp pain in my chest last night, when I got up from the couch it started. After talking to my MO's nurse, she thinks it could be a pleurisy. I'm supposed to go in tomorrow and have some fluids and a steroid to help my stomach and chest. Has anyone had any experience with a pleurisy?

    ((hugs))

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited April 2014

    Tangandchris - I did not have sharp pains in my chest during chemo.  However a month or so later I did - it was VERY severe and occured with deep breaths, especially when I went to lie down.  It started when I was exercising - jumping - my onc was afraid I had developed a clot in my leg that had traveled to my lungs.  He ordered a contrast CAT scan of my lungs stat; he was concerned I had a pulmonary embolism.  Fortunately, I did not.   I ended up diagnosed with costochondritis - a delayed result of radiation.  It slowly got better with rest and a round of antiinflammatories. 

    So just be sure they rule out a PE.  It is unlikely but should be considered.  BTW my Mom had pleurisy; it is extremely painful.  I hope you feel better soon! 

  • Njmom3
    Njmom3 Member Posts: 143
    edited April 2014

    Lago - no doctor ordered it.  I guess maybe better to be safe it's only a half hour procedure and doesn't sound too bad but it's just another thing...

    On another note, wow I could not sleep last night!  I read a 374 page book from 9 - 3:00 am cover to cover. Then I tossed and turned for an hour before finally falling asleep. Has anyone noticed any vision changes, my eyes were so blurry I put my font size on my kindle all the way up and still had issues. I don't normally have reading glasses but wow it was bad.  I would look away to try to focus and still no change. I guess the eye dr is on my to do list.   It is better this morning which is good...

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