How often do you wear your sleeve/gauntlet?

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  • PersonalTrainer
    PersonalTrainer Member Posts: 21
    edited March 2014

    I'm curious - I haven't heard of bike shorts being recommended before by anyone.  Did your therapist say why?

    But actually - I wear compression shorts pretty much everyday and often for most of the day just because of my job.  I have for years actually.  So, no they haven't helped my lymphedema.  I actually have pain and had some fibrosis in the lymph channels on my lower rib - so, definitely no help from the shorts. 

  • hugz4u
    hugz4u Member Posts: 2,781
    edited March 2014

    I wear 10 - 12 hours and when I think I overdid it I wrap. So far so good. I would love a flexitouch, but I wonder if it is beneficial for my mild LE.

  • bhd1
    bhd1 Member Posts: 3,874
    edited March 2014

    i wear my daytime sleeve all day every day and wrap,at night.  I am very active.  My le arm is  bigger than my right , but. Not a lot.  I am quite small.  Size 4.  .  Never thought of not wearing the garments.  How does that work?   You don't wear it and see  if your arm swells?   Should I try it?   

  • Amoc1973
    Amoc1973 Member Posts: 158
    edited April 2014

    I havnt been on here in a while but wanted to update & bump this thread again. I've been able to not wear the sleeve daily & remain stable (I measure myself daily. Have down since this started). I do have bad days occ but no more than I did w the daily garment & actually I have less bad days now. I do wear it for excercise. I know everyone is diff but just wanted to post as I know I was always desperate to read good things on here. Hope everyone is well

  • slv58
    slv58 Member Posts: 1,216
    edited April 2014

    I have mild LE but wear my sleeve daily, I find if I don't wear it my arm starts to ache. Not looking forward to hot weather and a sleeve/gauntlet. I'm also curious if I'll be able to play some sort of golf. 

  • bhd1
    bhd1 Member Posts: 3,874
    edited April 2014

    I want to play golf too.  I always walked and carried my bag before le,

  • crystalphm
    crystalphm Member Posts: 1,138
    edited April 2014

    I work with 90% female population and I would say 5 out of 100 women are indeed wearing sleeves  and gantlets. It amazes me because honestly, I never saw this before breast cancer, which means most people don't notice or think it is a sprain.

    I wear my sleeves/gauntlets as needed, when ever I do more than normal, or if normal is different. I also sleep with little pillows and readjust to keep my arm up as often as I wake.

    I am sure I have a sluggish lymph system because my leg (same side as BC) also swells a bit. I am going to fly this summer and I think I should just do a whole body wrap!! (trying to keep my humor here)

  • Kicks
    Kicks Member Posts: 4,131
    edited April 2014

    I've never golfed or wanted to (well other than putt-putt golf ).  I do have a new 'passion' since LE though - flyfishing.   It takes a lot of arm use and I've never had any problem at all doing it.  Talk with your CLET and see what they say.   My 'Guy' is very encouraging for me to flyfish (and anything else I want to do).  The more I do - the less issues I have.  But we are each so different.

  • mcgis
    mcgis Member Posts: 291
    edited April 2014

    Hi! I wear my glove every day for most of my swelling is in my hand. I do have swelling in my arm but it's not noticeable and it hasn't gotten worse (I measure myself). I'll wear my sleeve when my arm feels achy or heavy, when I'm on a hike/walk or doing housework, gardening... and will wear it when I fly. I do manual drainage every morning before I get out of bed and every night. And I use a pump every night too for 1/2 hour. My night time Jovi sleeve is having some padding added to help with my hand so I'm anxious to see how that works when I get it back.

  • Kicks
    Kicks Member Posts: 4,131
    edited April 2014

    mcgis - If you don't have one for hiking/walking, you might want to look into a hiking stick.  They do help as arm and hand are not 'down'.

    I'm not really a hiker as I prefer to either have 4 legs or 2 wheels under me but we do the Crazy Horse Memorial Volks Marche every June.  It's 7K from the parking lot up to the arm on the carving (quite a climb) and back down to the parking lot.  Long story shorter - last spring Hubby bought me a hiking stick,  He then got one for himself.  We did the Volks Marche and YES I really liked having the hiking stick and even my "doubting Thomas" Hubby was happy with using his stick.  Depending on where you live/walk a stick can deter loose dogs that 'challenge/attack' in your area.  Just my thoughts!

  • amygil81
    amygil81 Member Posts: 165
    edited April 2014

    Amoc, I'll just add my $0.02. I developed LE about a year after my mastectomy. I'm officially classed as moderate LE. I have to wear a sleeve and glove during the day, and wrap at night, pretty much all the time. If I don't, then I swell up and have to go in for manual drainage. Even so, I need a manual drainage PT session about once a month. I think that having LE bothers me even more than the loss of my breast. I walk with crutches due to a childhood disability, so my experience may not apply to you. That's probably how I got the LE in the first place. But LE is really not something you want to see progress, so I'd suggest really staying on top of it. HTH

    Amy

  • mnmbeck
    mnmbeck Member Posts: 313
    edited April 2014

    I'll chime in here, although I'm pretty new to all of this, and haven't figured any of it out, yet. (I've only been dealing with LE for 4 months).

    I wear a gauntlet/sleeve all day while I am awake.  I don't know if it helps or not.  My LE is considered mild.  I have tingling and aching in my arm, but I don't really experience that when wearing compression garments.  Strangely, it seems that when I take everything off at night, I get LOTS of tingling and some aching, too, for awhile.  I can see my hand swell.  It makes me wonder if the compression garments make it worse!  Especially because my swelling has consistently been better in my hand when I wake up in the morning, which doesn't make sense since I am sleeping in a recliner (post exchange surgery), and my hand is definitely not elevated! 

    In response to how many women have LE, I can tell you that I know several people who have had cancer.  They all had lymph nodes taken.  I would say 6/10 of the people I have talked to have LE symptoms, but I am the only one being treated.  They say they have mentioned the 'swelling' to their doctors, and are told that this is a common side effect from surgeries involving lymph node removal, and not to worry about it.  To be honest, I kind of wish this would have happened to me!  They are going on with their lives, no compression, no restrictions, no 'being careful' about ANYTHING.  And, they are just fine.  Also, I have at least 1 friend who said she struggled with LE for about a year, but thinks maybe the lymph 'created more pathways'.  She no longer wears compression EVER or thinks much about it EVER!  She had LE in her leg, and she just went on a 76 mile backpacking trip through the mountains of NM with her sons.  She was going to bring compression, but forgot.  She said she did have some swelling, but it seems to have resolved itself since she got back.  I try to imagine this....flying, hiking through the mountains (at high elevation)...on her feet from dawn until dusk.  She had no problems.  That may not ever be me, but it does give me hope! 

    I have, of course, told others that their 'swelling' and aching is not something to be ignored, and they should be seeing a CLT, but ...their DOCTOR told them it was nothing.  And so....it's nothing, as far as they are concerned.  I know  I am not reporting any kind of a scientific study, but it is amazing when you ask people...just how many do, indeed, have symptoms but either didn't know they were worth mentioning, or they DO mention them, and are told by doctors that it is nothing.

  • JWoo
    JWoo Member Posts: 1,171
    edited April 2014

    Hi all- fairly new to LE as well. Currently in PT for it, just started learning a workout program and am having trunk/breast swelling. Wearing a mens thick compression long sleeve shirt during the day, wondering if anyone else has something better they use. So frustrating, trying to lose weight, and working out seems to cause flares. I gotta do something! 

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited April 2014

    I'll swell even with the sleeve for no reason.


    I might suggest you keep a journal listing foods, bev ( like a diet diary) and activity.

    You may find there IS a reason ( excess sodium, less fluids, weather temps etc etc ... I hope you do find an answer .  We all seek some measure of predictability I guess.

    Good Luck.


    Carol mentioned LE  being systemic.  My DRS laugh at me when I say that. With the 'odd flare' that I had last yr in my chest ( Lasted mos) after a mammo and will flare a bit to this day, I take nothing for granted with lE. It IS systemic.  I swear if God came down and told me I was wrong, we would argue !  My DRS think I am Soooo paranoid not to have my BP take ' in the 'good arm".  Guess what ? I have LOW  LOW  BP - dont care  for someone to confirm it after all these yrs. I suppose if it was high , I might have an issue.


    In PT for my knees , certain leg exercises were flaring my LE, they said it was impossible since the LE is in my arm.  Activity flares mine- period.

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 3,567
    edited April 2014

    Purple, I just completed a round of PT for my knee, and whoa....no kidding, leg swelling sets off the arm!!! In my case because I no longer swell much in the arm, just get achy when the LE is rearing it's ugly head, what I notice is that when I am on my feet too much, or using my legs too much, the leg swells well beyond the knee area, and my arm hurts like heck!  I met with an orthopedist this morning for a next-steps session (MRI coming up soon), and he did not flinch or chuckle or chortle or object when I explained that my achy arm is a good barometer for judging how distressed my knee is.  I'm so sorry your docs are in denial over this.  (Maybe my guy was rolling his eyes when I averted mine, but I really don't think so.)  This business of treating us patients like clueless people is abhorrent.

  • laurie2025
    laurie2025 Member Posts: 117
    edited April 2014

    I have fairly mild LE, and for myself, do not get much if any benefit from my sleeve/gauntlet.  If I was going to lift weights I'd wear it, or if I was going to fly, I'd wear it.  My PT tried an experiment with me and I wore it every day, she measured me at my next appointment and there was no difference.  So, I don't bother.

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited April 2014

    So sorry to hear about your knee, Carol- I know how much exercise means to you

    Your problem is most likely different  from mine  ( PFS here) but I have to tell you- I bought a DVD called " STRONG KNEES" by Gaiam after my PT was done.  It has helped some. None of the exercises flared my LE at all either ( basically isometrics and stretches etc)  It was created by a  PT.  I was making progress in therapy , but they used latex tape ( common for this issue  to repostion the kneecaps) and an allergy flared. Surprise !  :>)  That was when I went downhill with the PT.

    In any case, I now wear knee sleeves so compression here, comperession there .you know the drill!


    Do search the DVD - I highly recommend it.  I broke my left knee app 7 yrs ago and this would have bene possible for me to do and it IS helping!

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited April 2014

    JWoo

    I went to weight watchers to lose a few w/out exercise. It really works.


    In the meantime, do look at the stepup speak out site for  a proper garment for the truncal.

    http://www.stepup-speakout.org/breast_chest_trunck...

    I use something very similar to the WEAR-EASE and I LOVE it. LOVE  a compression garment ?!!!!  YEP!  Honestly, if I did not have LE, I would wear it !

    The one I wear is really a sassybax, and these are pricey, but this helps me a lot and is very very comfortable.NOT covered by INS. though.  Wash with care! sassybax.com  (NOT " made for " LE)
    Good Luck to you!

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited April 2014

    Laurie, the Sassybax people are very aware of LE and have expressed interest in making them "for LE" so our insurance will cover it, but so far they haven't done it. Why not contact them and nudge them in that direction. The more they hear from us the more likely they'll get on the stick about it. It's a great truncal garment, but it's way over the top price-wise for some of us, and insurance coverage would be most welcome. Go get 'em!
    Binney

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 3,567
    edited April 2014

    Laurie,  thanks!  I'll investigate that DVD.

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited April 2014

    Why not contact them and nudge them in that direction.

    Will do, Binney!

    I'm on it- thanks for letting me know thy are aware. I LOVE these garments. I bought  a few dirt cheap when FASHION BUG was going out of business. They are out of my price range as well.

    THX

    Laurie

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited April 2014

    *NEWS! I need your help!


    Hi All,

    I may post on a few threads… hope you will indulge me , but will seek replies on the new LE thread “ GARMENT for truncal”


    There, I posted about a great top that love for truncal LE made by sassybax.com :

    TORSO TRIM TT03: http://www.sassybax.com/search.php?search_query=TT03&x=0&y=0

    They also make a bra with BC pts in mind

    Celebrate Life bra : http://www.sassybax.com/search.php?search_query=celebrate+life&x=0&y=0

    PLEASE go look at that thread when you get a minute.


    The owner called me today and she is wonderful! She is very open to the *possibility* of selling these items as garments that we could buy with our health ins. NO PROMISES because she needs to know HOW to do this and what it would take. At this point, she and her husband run the business out of the home and if it requires too much work, they may not be able to take it on, BUT – she would be happy to!

    Please post on the “garment thread” and/or PM me and tell me anything at all that you might know about how to accomplish this or who to get in touch with.

    Many Thanks!
    Laurie

  • JWoo
    JWoo Member Posts: 1,171
    edited May 2014

    Have any of you ladies that have to use a pump traveled with it? The longer I am in PT, the more it looks like i will have to get the full jacket pump to keep this mess under control. I will be traveling to England in the fall, and whatever I am doing, will need to do it even more while there. What have been your experience with security and the airlines if you have had to take your pump items?

  • hopeinfitcher
    hopeinfitcher Member Posts: 92
    edited May 2014

    California girls !!!

    Where you get your sleeves?

    Wish all best!.thank you!

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited May 2014

    JWoo, you'll want to check with any non-US airlines you plan to fly with, and with security in other countries, but here I believe all your pump equipment can go into a separate carry-on that is not counted as your one carry-on, In other words, you're allowed an additional "medical supplies" carry-on. Check with your airline(s) about what kind of documentation you need, since they're not likely to recognize LE pump equipment.

    Be well,
    Binney

  • JWoo
    JWoo Member Posts: 1,171
    edited May 2014

    Binney, thanks for the tips. I will def  be contacting the airlines once I get my tickets, and checking regulations wherever I go. I am really hoping that i can find something else to control this before then, as I really don't want to haul that around for 2 weeks  I am trying my best to be an under-packer instead of my regular over-packer self since my friend will be carrying the majority of the luggage due to my LE.  

    I'm also wondering about backpacks. Not a HUGE one, just one to carry instead of a purse. I have one with really wide padded straps. 

    Anyone have experience with a backpack for extended periods? We'll be walking 8+ hours a day, and I think a shoulder or across the body bag would seem worse, but, def am looking for other ppls opinions and experiences. 

    I'll be wearing my sleeves and gauntlets pretty much the whole time, I am sure. Just to keep everything in check. 

    I'm not loving this new post-mastectomy world. Better than the alternative I guess :)

  • mcgis
    mcgis Member Posts: 291
    edited May 2014

    JWoo, I had the same question about packing my pump. Can it go into our checked luggage. I was thinking of just packing my clothes around it? With all that walking be sure to try to keep your arm up. Maybe grab onto the strap of whatever bag you take, or maybe make a "sling" of some sort? Have a great trip!! Let us know how it goes.

    Hope, I'm in CA. I get my sleeves on BrightLifeDirect.com. 

  • hopeinfitcher
    hopeinfitcher Member Posts: 92
    edited May 2014

    mcgi,thank you for your answer.I,m 5 years from surgery,but my arm steel swollen.

    be well,feel good.All best!


  • JWoo
    JWoo Member Posts: 1,171
    edited May 2014

    Has anyone ever worn a runners compression suit? I am thinking that might be good for a trans-Atlantic flight. 

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