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  • Meadow
    Meadow Member Posts: 2,007
    edited April 2014

    Kruise I would come to your smoothie party!

    Ally your avatar picture is adorable!

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited April 2014

    Can I put my 2 cents about the research/study issue? Maybe we can start a thread with just research studies on it...it would be easier for us to navigate one thread instead of searching around this thread....our researchers have posted great information...but sometimes I just want to be on here and see what everyone is up too...sometimes I want to read the research....it would be great if it were separated...it would give us a powerful tool to use...all in one place....what do you guys think? 

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited April 2014

    Oh, I like that idea Titan!

  • Spica16
    Spica16 Member Posts: 130
    edited April 2014

    Titan ~ we can get articles posted to our profile page based on our interests (such as "TNBC", "clinical trials", etc), which are selected according to the information we post in our personal diagnosis and treatment areas. These are from BCO - more up-to-date and reliable, since this website uses breast cancer experts to input and filter reports from all the various studies. I believe it is the same articles we see highlighted in the "Breaking News" box on the left side of the discussion page. 

    Since none of us are medical doctors, much less oncologists, we really aren't qualified to interpret research studies. In the medical and healthcare fields there is the concept of "scope of practice", meaning you work within the range of your training/knowledge. To go beyond that "scope" is irresponsible and unethical. Of course anyone here who posts this type of info is only doing it with the hope of helping others...after going through the hell of cancer treatment, how could we not be compassionate? But...we really need to leave the medical/technical info to the experts.

    The beauty of these discussion groups is in the sharing of our experiences. The doctor can tell you that AC will make your hair fall out, and that Taxol might make your feet numb, but WE can tell each other how we coped with that bald head..."wig, scarf or BOLD?...or those wonky feet..."why are my toes on fire?"...or that greatest mystery of all..."where did my eyelashes go? they came back two weeks ago, and now their gone again"???!!! It's reassuring and comforting to talk to someone who has already been through it. As is often said on these forums...someone who "gets it".

    Plus, doctor-speak. Not always easy to translate, and many times misunderstood. Just a while back here, someone thought the doc or nurse told her to "get your affairs in order", but later found out they meant to "get through treatment and then get on with your life" Whew - that had to cause some major hyperventilation. Doctor-speak. I worked with pathologists everyday. They really like the word "unremarkable" when describing surgical specimens during gross examination and dictation. ("Unremarkable" means normal, not diseased or abnormal.) Now wouldn't it make more sense to just say "looks healthy and normal"? Um, No...not in pathologist-speak. Our young pathologist was doing a gross exam of a surgical specimen from a woman, and dictated that it was "unremarkable". I told him that no woman wanted to hear that she was "unremarkable". He came back with "she sure wants to hear that from this department!"  Yeah - he had that right! Oh the fun we had in the pathology lab, affectionately known as the "Parts Dept". 

     ~ Shar       (hey, blame it on the formaldehyde!     Loopy    )


    P.S. Titan ~ Thank You for starting this thread - it helped me to get through those toughest years. I reached 2 years out from final treatment on April 6th. Now I'm heading for the 3 yrs since dx goal, in August. I plan on getting there as "unremarkably" as I can!

  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,204
    edited April 2014

    Sorry ladies but I am not prepared to let this go after reading Inspires last post to me about being hostile to her.  

    Inspired perhaps the ladies on here would like to track back to the posts dated 28th October 2013 which is when you accused me of being hostile to you.  If there is anything hostile in my post then I am a frigging monkey's uncle.  So I believe you should retract your statement of me being hostile to you and apologise. 

    Plus why have you deleted all the posts of yours where people didn't agree with you???

    Secondly I have been a medical, surgical and radiological typist for over 40 years and I could tell these ladies on here a great many things concerning their treatment and on the subject of recurrence,  but you know what,  I wouldn't dare,  because I have no right to.  I am not their doctor, their surgeon or their oncologist and I have no right to increase their anxiety with outdated data and incorrect  recurrence details.  NEITHER do you.  You say you are a professional researcher but I believe you have only just got that title, am I correct????.  However, you are not a researcher in the medical field. Be careful on that one Inspired.

    You also point out in your previous posts that none of the doctors can deal with you or handle you and that only your oncologist can because of your insistent nature, well let me assure you I am not afraid to tackle you especially when you post pages and pages of incorrect data to mostly newbies on here.   Yes I did say we should be able to say (SAY) what we feel on here and that didn't include posting those stats, percentages and recurrence.  The doctors, surgeons and oncologists should be providing that information to patients nobody else.      

    Titan,  just like Spica,  I have always received all the help in the world from you ladies on here,  without you all I would have had a far harder cancer journey to get through.  You have all been there for me through thick and  thin and always with the right and correct advice, albeit most of it with laughter.  If you feel I should leave this thread then I will gladly do so but I won't be edged out by Inspired.    

  • simplelife4real
    simplelife4real Member Posts: 563
    edited April 2014

    Spica, I just wanted to say congratulations on being two years out from your last treatment!  I love seeing people hit milestones and posting about them.

  • MaryFox
    MaryFox Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2014

    IMHO feuds would be better dealt with in private messages.  If you disagree with an opinion, why not just say "I disagree because.." and then explain your position in a logical manner.  Or maybe just ignore it and move on to the next message. We're all coping with TNBC in our own way. As far as I know, none of us is a board certified oncologist. 

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited April 2014

    Just popping in here to say that we think we're all feeling frustrated after
    reading this back and forth ladies. Please, it's time to  move forward, be open and
    supportive.

    Also, just a reminder that if you do not agree with a certain post or poster, and/or her/his opinions and comments here, feel free to use our Block Member feature, or simply choose to
    not read her/his post. 

    Thank you each for your cooperation.

    The Mods

  • DorMac
    DorMac Member Posts: 155
    edited April 2014

    Moderators,

    I didn't even realize there was a BlockMember feature - what if the particular user shows "cannot block user"?

    Doreen

  • FierceBluebird
    FierceBluebird Member Posts: 758
    edited April 2014

    out of hospital, feeling better. Spring is in the air. I don't have much to add other than good luck and positive thoughts to those in chemo and rads.

    Healing thoughts to those with hard feelings. No need to justify position, let's all move forward as mods suggested. Thank you mods for all you do.

    It's a great forum for information and friendships. Wouldn't want to see it any other way. Hoppy Easter!

  • InspiredbyDolce
    InspiredbyDolce Member Posts: 1,181
    edited April 2014

    Chirp chirp FierceBluebird!  So glad to see you are back home!  What's next for you in the process?

  • LanaM
    LanaM Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2014

    Life's too short and too precious to waste time or energy on all this drama.  Glad to see you're out of the hospital bluebird! We're finally getting some spring weather here in the Midwest - hope everyone gets a chance to get out and enjoy it! Hoping everyone a very Happy Easter! 

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  • sylviaexmouthuk
    sylviaexmouthuk Member Posts: 7,847
    edited April 2014


    Hello DorMac (Doreen)

    I am just popping in to
    say hello from the UK and to say how much I enjoyed your post about
    the absurdities of the English language. It is so nice to have a post
    that can make us all laugh. How about the differences between English
    English, American English and even Canadian English? How about the
    different pronunciations of rough, cough, dough, plough, bough, bow,
    row, sow? My husband and I spent 17 years in Canada, 9 of which were
    in Ottawa, in Lynwood Village in Nepean. We really loved Canada,
    especially Ottawa. It must have changed a lot since we left in 1993.
    We remember Beaver tails in the Byward Market.

    Sending you fond
    greetings.

    Sylvia xxxx

  • BanR
    BanR Member Posts: 289
    edited April 2014

    ally: regarding the query related to radiation..even i had the same question.

    i asked my radiation oncologist that why did i need radiation after completion of 8 dose dense chemos. The cancer cells which would have survived so many chemos will they die with rads or are they still near the tumor area or breast?!! She gave me a new information. She mentioned that when surgery is done, chemo therapy drugs don't reach the area of surgery too well. They travel all around the body but less around that area. Hence radiation is required there as a local treatment.

    just wanted to share this new piece of information with all of u.

    Jianchi and Simple...hope rads are going on smoothly. I have just 3 more to go. Fatigue was high initially and with time it came down or maybe i learnt how to live with it... 

    I guess once we have dealt with a diagnosis like TNBC and Chemo, a lot many other things seem like a breeze.

    wishing everybody good health...i hope we keep chatting and i wish each one of us ..ripe old age!! :)

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited April 2014

    Annie - don't you dare even think of leaving this thread.   And, Titan - wonderful idea for research going into another thread.  I've been on this thread from my diagnose 5 years ago and was one of the first to sign on to this thread when Titan began it.  It's been a very large part of my world and has gotten me through so very much when I have had you all to share the good, the bad and the ugly with.  And ugly we have sure seen with the loss, so quickly of so many of our very dearest sisters that we seemed to lose in groups a few years back and which put us all flat on our backs.  If someone wants to research, and someone wants to interpret it - go for it - I personally get my research from my doctors, who I am sure are very capable of reading it and explaining it very well.  The separate thread could be called TN Research or something of the ilk so that any research put on there would apply only to us and we wouldn't have to wade through an ocean of other info not even pertaining to our cancer.  

    Wishing every single sister on this thread a wonderful weekend (Happy Easter if you celebrate such) and my wishes are wrapped in love.

    Linda

  • slv58
    slv58 Member Posts: 1,216
    edited April 2014

    bluebird, glad you are out of the hospital and hoping you are feeling better. Wishing we could all get along with each other, I have always come here for the support and understanding that only we can share. We are sisters and sometimes there will be disagreements, but please let us support each other through this journey. Sometimes I start to read something and if it's not something I want to hear-I move on to the next post. Simple. I am grateful for all the encouraging posts and sympathize with the others. 

    Thank you everyone for helping me get through this with the warmth and knowledge that everyone shares.

  • simplelife4real
    simplelife4real Member Posts: 563
    edited April 2014

    FierceBlueBird....so happy to hear that you are back out of the hospital.  I hope your procedure was suceessful.

    BanR...thanks for the encouraging words about rads.  I've started coming home and lying down for a couple hours after rads and that seems to have helped significantly both with the fatigue and the irritation to the damaged nerves from my ALND.  I'm done with week 3 now and this week actually seemed better than week 2.  

  • Meadow
    Meadow Member Posts: 2,007
    edited April 2014

    Bluebird, sending loving warm thoughts your way

  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,204
    edited April 2014

    LRM your post brought me to tears. I have had so many lovely supportive PM's  this morning and I appreciate all the love you girls give me on here.  I don't harbour grudges and hope we can move on and hopefully bring some laughter back into the threads mixed with love, compassion and support to help us all cope. In my book you are one of the most courageous ladies I have ever met and although I hope I never have to go through what you yourself did I don't think I could do it with so much courage, love, warmth  and total unselfishness as you did.  Love you heaps.  xxx


     

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited April 2014

    Love you right back, Annie.

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited April 2014

    Good news Bluebird!

    Annie...this wouldn't be "our" thread without you girl!   You have made me laugh so much....and that's what we need on here...laughter....we already have enough to deal with....laughter helps us all.

  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,204
    edited April 2014

    Bluebird glad to hear you are out of hospital and feeling better. There is no better time than spring to put a smile on our face and a "spring" in our steps. 

    Cat just wondering out you are getting on.  Hope your treatment is not to hard on you. Still deep in your pocket and hoping you are feeling better.

    A Happy Easter to you all who celebrate it.  There's nothing like chocolate to make you smile, so enjoy plenty of it.

  • CatWhispurrer
    CatWhispurrer Member Posts: 263
    edited April 2014

    Hi Ladies!    Cocker - I am a little beaten down by Taxol just like before, but hanging in there.   I am losing my hair, fatigued, achy and have numb feet.   I had taxol #4 yesterday didn't sleep at all last night from the steroids.  Does anyone have a good way to sleep the night of treatment?    

    I have an appointment in Chattanooga on Tuesday to have a checkup and blood draw for a trial there to see if I will qualify.  I will have my first scan in about 3 weeks to see if taxol is helping.   Please stay right there in my pocket!

  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,204
    edited April 2014

    Cat my heart goes out to you.  When I was having chemo the steroids kept me awake all night and as I was working from home I would type all night but instead of catching up on sleep the next day I would again type all day so that when the true side effects of chemo struck me about three days after each infusion,  I was sleep deprived as I hadn't caught up on the night I had missed. Then I would get that heavy, sickly, tired, fluey  feeling because I hadn't caught up which I put down to chemo but perhaps it was because I needed sleep. At our surgery the doc's give information sheets called "Sleep Hygiene" which is designed to help those people who are lacking in sleep.  Would your local doctors have anything like that, that you could try.  Admittedly a lot of these people are not having chemo but there might be something in there that could help you.  Or perhaps a warm drink, reading for a while until you feel you could drop off, or just clearing your mind as much as you can.  People used to say to me, make out you have won the lottery (yea right) and you are about to spend it or imagine yourself on a deserted warm beach with only the lapping of the waves under a blue sky.  Sometimes it helped.  Or perhaps your doc could provide you with some sort of medication that won't interact with the chemo.  I do hope you can find something because it is so hard to cope without sleep when you are having chemo.  Thinking of you and sending warm hugs.     

    PS I won't be anywhere else but in your pocket as always.

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited April 2014

    Cat...wish I knew how to help you sleep....I still don't sleep well now......I try to keep the room as dark as possible and keep a bottle of water next to the bed for the dry mouth.....don't know if you are having hot flashes ...but would also keep a cold washcloth next to the bed also to put on my stomach when the hot flash hit....some people say melatonin but I haven't tried that yet....also maybe an 1/2 an ativan would help?

  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,204
    edited April 2014

    Inspired I think we need to call a truce.  I believe we have exhausted the subject to death and both have had our say.  You have so many positive, helpful things you can offer the ladies on here and so do I.  We are not done yet.  Lets try and get the thread back to where it used to be.   

  • InspiredbyDolce
    InspiredbyDolce Member Posts: 1,181
    edited April 2014

    Absolutely Cocker.  I want only the best for everyone and care about all of you!  

  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,204
    edited April 2014

    When Bill Gates was a young boy, he had a pet crow. He tried to teach the bird how to speak, introducing a new word every day.


    It was disappointing for him as the crow would not make any sound, until one day the crow uttered the words, "Bill, someday you will become the richest man in the world".

    Bill was amazed. He wanted to learn more but the crow became quiet and would not utter another word. So, he decided to go to a gypsy fortune-teller. The old lady looked into her crystal ball and said, "You are destined to be the richest man in the world, but you need to perform a simple task."

    When she told Bill what is to be done, he ran home, full of excitement. Bill's mother found him cooking something in the kitchen the next morning.

    She asked him what he was doing and he replied, "Mother, do you remember what the crow said to me the other day?"

    His mother said, "Right Bill, but what are you cooking?"

    "Well," said Bill, "I went to see the Gypsy fortune-teller and she confirmed what the crow had to say!"

    "Wow, that's wonderful!" said his mother, "But what is it that you are cooking in the pot?"

    "Well, the gypsy woman told me that I needed to do a simple thing to get my fortune!"

    His mother said impatiently, "Yes Bill, now will you tell me what are you cooking?"

    His eyes gleaming, Bill Gates replied "Well, she asked me to make MY CROW SOFT!!"


    mmmmmmm perhaps a bit weak


  • JAN69
    JAN69 Member Posts: 947
    edited April 2014

    Hi friends,  I haven't posted much lately, but I try to read frequently.  I thought I'd give an update.  I'm actually doing fine.  I've lost a lot of stamina, lost lots of hair, and am losing weight, finally.  DH's blood cancer is mostly stable.  Life is good.

    For more than 20 years I've been a part of The California Teacher Study.  At first I didn't know what they were researching, they just asked many questions. As time I went by, it became clear they were interested in breast cancer.  Fast forward to 2011, I get breast cancer, and now they have been after me for my DNA.  My most recent communication arranged for me to give up a "tiny bit" of blood to go in some research file.

    We've been having a beautiful spring following a very mild dry winter.  The daffodils are finished, the native California poppies are in full bloom, and the lupines and indian paint brush are doing their thing.  Life is good.

    Can't think of a single joke tonight.  Next time.......  

    Hope everyone one has a nice weekend with family and friends.  Jan

  • tekwriter
    tekwriter Member Posts: 216
    edited April 2014

    I got an ambien from my PCP for the steroid nights and it helps, I can sleep now.

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