April 2014 Surgery Sisters
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This is the eighth day post unilateral for me.
First, a theory...they only put these damn drains into us to insure we are diligent and obedient about returning for follow up. ;-) Hate, hate, hate this damn thing. But it comes out today. Thank God!
I drove yesterday, and I drove a stick shift! The toughest part was looking over my shoulder to back up or to parallel park. But, no ill effects and simply grand to be *on my own* for a couple of hours!
While I am at Mass General today, I am going to talk to their post mastectomy shop people about some sort of foob...I have a wedding in four weeks and would love to be able to wear, and look decent in, the dress I bought before this all started.
Good luck, and love, to you all, my April sisters.
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Hi Vfay,
I am 2 days out of a Pbmx with TE. I am sore, but it is very manageable. Like the other posters mentioned, I am very tight in the morning and sleeping on my back makes me sore (back pain more so than pain in the chest). I had 240 cc's in the TE, and my surgeon said nothing more for a month. He wants everything to heal and settle down. I think they feel weird. Prior to surgery my breasts were very low- the PS said it was typical of someone with English heritage. Now the TE's feel like they are under my chin practically. He did warn me about that, but it is weird experiencing it. He also said once the exchange is done everything will look like it is in the right spot. I am very flat chested right now with tiny bumps due to the TE. Later today I get to shower and I will take the bandages off for the first time. I have been very much at peace with how everything looks and just love the fact that my risk has dropped so dramatically as a result of the surgery. My MRI did show a growth about a week before surgery, but I will not know until sometime next week when the pathology gets back. Keeping my fingers crossed. Overall, recovery has not been that bad. The worst part is the tightness in the armpit areas. It feels like someone put a belt around me and tightened it too snug. Nothing terrible, but always present. I am looking forward to the muscle stretching out for sure.
To the other sleeve sisters, my thoughts are with you!
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when back sleeping don't lay flat?.. Sleep partly sitting up, laying back against pillows. Should help relieve back pain.
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Happyteacher...one thing that helps with the belt feeling is the muscle relaxer. If they haven't been offered, you might want to ask. Those were my lifesaver. I don't get narcotics of any kind, went home with Motrin and Valium after bmx w/TE's. It was very doable when you switch them off like you would do Motrin and Tylenol with a baby.
Good luck in your healing...think T-Rex arms....you will appreciate it in the long run!!!
Janice
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I am sorry to hear all the difficulties with some of you, especially with the TE's. I can't imagine, since I chose not to reconstruct but I, too have a lot of tightness and feel like I'm wearing a bra that is too tight. It's not painful at all, just noticeable and annoying at times. Today, I saw my BS and I am healing well. The drains were removed last week and that helped a lot. I still have to sleep on my back, "mummy" style like mentioned above and am pretty stiff in the mornings. I also had my first physical therapy appt today. My shoulder range of motion actually improved quite a bit in the last few days, since the drains were removed, but not 100%. We're doing manual lymphatic drainage two times a week right now to help which I hope will help with the two dog ears I have on my sides. They feel pretty swollen. I'm cancer free and flat free and continue to heal each day. Currently 2 weeks post-op.
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yesterday was my PBMX. I have the BRCA 1 gene mutation.
I rarely post but had to lend some hope and reassurance.
I feel great. I have pain and soreness but completely manageable. I have been up and about since a few hours after surgery. The drain sites feel sore but I do not feel the drains are in the way or are difficult to deal with so far.
I feel so relieved. And the area of my mastectomy looks pretty good even now. I have tissue expanders.
I know this is just one experience and everyone experiences things differently and has different bodies and feelings. But I just wanted to tell you how great I feel. I thought that might help someone to know this----I think about April surgery sisters everyday and am wishing you all the very best.
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Thanks, Krisnanbrandy--I'm also a PBMX (BRCA2+) scheduled for 4/30....I'm TERRIFIED and quite frankly, a bit of a basket case...I was hoping I would be handing the anticipation of this better than I am. Can't wait for it to be over. Glad to hear you are healing well. Keep us April'ers posted!
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What is the part that is most terrifying to you? Maybe I have some reassurance to share. Or sometimes just putting it out there feels good.
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I was very scared of te being super painful and failing. I read too much on the TE trouble thread. The first36 hours werent fun but I knew itd take a good few weeks to start feeling better, and the te turned out to be a minimal problem. The waiting and anxiety are generally much worse than the actual surgery and recovery. Prepare your house ahead a bit- or make sure your helper knows you will be severely limited especially the first few days. Have them help you get up by pushing your up from behind your back, that will help alot, then can swing your legs around. Remember, just cause you can do stuff, doesnt mean you should!
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Good question :-) I don't really know, to be honest....I thought I was perfectly fine w my decision until this week...I think it's just the whole anticipation, reality and finality of it all...I know logically it's the right decision and I know logically I'll be perfectly fine...but I just can't stop breaking into crazy crying panic attacks--which really are not in my nature..... I'm not even all that attached to my breasts...Crazy, eh?
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Krisanbrandy-I am so happy to hear that you are doing well! It was posts like yours that I kept going back to before my surgery. I needed to know that there are positive people like you who have gone before me, and we can get through it. Praying for your quick healing.
Zeeba--I had my surgery 2 weeks ago, and the drain removed 2 days ago. It's ok to be terrified...I sure was. At least for me, worrying was WAY worse than actually going through the procedure. Try to stay positive. I tried to make the time go faster by getting "prepared". There are many posts on here about tips and tricks that have made things easier for when you get home. Praying for you.
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I was really not very attached to my breasts either so I do not have a sadness about that part. I have really been at peace with my decision because for so many reasons it is the right one for me. So moving beyond all this is the only option.
Yes. The anticipation was awful. But the after part brought a wash of relief and seems crazy but a feeling of joy. ANd I just had my surgery yesterday afternoon.
I think the fact that my breast cancer risk is now less than the regular population makes me feel so grateful. I am too aware of the pain suffering and loss breast cancer can bring so even before the surgery i tried to feel gratitude.
Also I used some meditation tapes specifically for surgery and healing. I found them very calming. Every nurse aNd doctor who sees me says I am doing amazing. You can do it brave girl

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Yes, I am VERY grateful that I have this option..my mother didn't make it to 40 b/c of the genetic mutation (I'm 46) and I'm thankful every day that I can have the knowledge some sort of control over my future....Thanks for reminding me of that very very special part of this whole journey. I needed that today. I had the same sense of panic before my BSO, and I do remember that the anticipation was WAY worse than the surgery or surgical menopause.....
Meditation tapes? Never thought it would be my thing, but I'll give it a whirl...are they downloadable from somewhere?
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yes. Before oopho I was hysterical and petrified. It was easy. And I have not had any issues since.
Amazon has a download belleruth naperstack. Specifically guided meditations for surgery. But there are others. There is a rest and renew app that is not surgery specific but helpful. I would make sure u like their voice before buying entire cd or u will be more irritated than calm.
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Yeah, hysterical and petrified pretty much sums it all up :-) but this too shall pass. I'll have a look at the guided meditation--I'm sure there's lots of Law and Order to keep me busy. Thanks for the kind words, and keep me posted on your recovery....
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Zeeba, here is a link to a few download of the Belleruth meditations. I too found them really helpful. Hope you do as well
. http://www.healthjourneys.com/kaiser/download/down...
Happyteacher, krisnanbrandy, I am so glad to hear you have come through your surgeries so well already. Gentle healing to you!
Hugs to all the April girls

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thanks so much for finding the link and for the nice words of support. My surgery was 4/16 and last night I slept a lot and have been almost pain free. On pain meds but taken every four hours before pain onset has made this much easier. Also putting two large firm pillow on either side of me helped with feeling pressure on the front of my chest. I use the hospital bed to have my legs elevated and keep making adjustments for upper body. Just to not get stiff in one position.
The things I have used while here--- glide on gloss/ chap stick, seventh generation mandarin orange face and body wipes, hair tie, prunes, a thin bathrobe that hangs to knees and hand cream.
Hope some of this info might be helpful. Hugs to all of you. This is so doable. More so than I imagined.
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Hi all,
Just 9 days out of NSBMX, pain is manageable with help of Valium and Percoset. Went to my PS yesterday who unveiled my breasts, so, in a word, pretty ugly, like wrinkled sacks, but she was thrilled, said the skin condition/color was great, the incisions were healing perfectly and the nipples were doing great. So, you can't judge a breast by its cover.. Anyway, since I had 400cc fills at the initial surgery, we are not filling any more for a while as my skin expands and adjusts. And my drains are still in bc I'm still outputting a fair amount of fluid, but except for my constant dozing off, all is well and manageable. I posted pics on the pic forum if anyone's interested (same id). Next appt with PS is Tuesday so hopefully will get drains pulled then. What I did notice was how exhausting just a simple trip to the doc was, so lesson learned to take it easy and not overdo even if it seems like a minor activity.
Best to all still waiting, it's totally manageable, I promise.
N
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Hi Everyone
I am three days out of my lumpectomy SNB and breast lift on my left breast. I have that pesky drain but just about nothing is coming out of it anymore. I spoke to the PA at my plastic surgeon's office and she said I could just drain it once a day and get it out on Tuesday during our post op appt. I'm pretty sore at the drain sight and the bottom of my boob. I'm weening myself off the pain killers and just using the muscle relaxers and Tylenol extra strength.
I have implants so I have temp implant which he will fill with more saline on Tuesday. It's really sore where that port is and where the drain entry is. I just want to get back to work and deal with rads so I can get on with my life. This is really the most difficult thing I've had to deal with
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Hello All. Post surgery by 3 days and feeling great considering. Just sore and sleeping a lot. The family and friend support has been fabulous and a lifesaver.
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Ninth day, post unilateral.
Got my pathology results today and they found three foci of invasive cancer cells, of the sizes 7mm, 0.2 mm and 0.1 mm plus seven micro invasions.
My breast surgeon said I needed to talk with the MO, but since the DCIS had been not hormone receptive, chances are, I was looking at chemo.
Shit. Shit. Shit.
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I'm sorry, rambling rose, that really sucks.
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Just a quick update for my sisters who are still waiting to help fill in some details of what to expect. My sugery was Tuesday, and it is now Friday. Still using oxycodon for pain, but it completey manages is when I take it. Realized last night that the back pain that was persistant seems to be a result of constipation/trapped gas issues. Unfortunately I went into surgery without a bowel movement for 4 days, then add in a few more days post op... got to be uncomfortable. Once that was resolved though and gas passed and such, I found sleeping on my back became far less painful. I slept incredibly well last night, and slept most of the day today as well. I did try to use Extra Strength Tylenol instead of the oxycodon this morning, but it isn't quite strong enough. I can feel the healing though and suspect within just a couple of days the Tylenol will be enough by day, and the oxycodon can fill in for the night shift. The tight belt around my armpit areas was better today also. I actully find that I am forgetting that I shouldn't be raising my arms up, and do it briefly until the pain kicks in to remind me. Trying to behave though.
Waiting for the pathology results is wearing on me a bit. I am looking forward to getting those back, be it good or bad- at least I will know.
Sending good vibes to all of my surgery sisters. If you haven't gone in yet- it truly has not been bad at all.
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Rambling Rose I am so sorry to hear that your pathology report was not the news you were hoping to hear. My heart aches every time I read about another disappointing result for any of the lovely women on this site. I get my strength for my own journey from these same ladies who manage to get back up, brush off the dirt and put their boxing gloves back on. Thinking of you.
Happyteacher I am glad to hear that you are recovering well. I am 1 week ahead of you - surgery was April 8. Glad that you are getting some good nights sleep. My BS and PS were both very strong advocates to keeping up on my pain medication. I can fortunately say I haven't really experienced much for pain, just some discomfort along the ribs where they made the TE pocket .... I usually describe it just as "increased pressure" Then again that was how I described child birth. I had my drain out on Wednesday (day 8) - easiest thing ever so don't worry about that as well as suture tapes removed. PS surprised me with insisting I continue to take maximum dose of advil, Tylenol EX. through the day and a Percocet at night. I seldom take meds but I have a lot of trust in both surgeons so will follow their advice. I meet with the PS again next week and then will have my BS appointment the next day which should be the pathology report.
I had my first true melt down the night after having my drain removed. I have not had any problem accessing my incision - I think the healthcare worker in me has me assessing the whole process from a medical prospective. Not having a drain meant I could sleep without a surgical bra so I slipped on my old comfie cami top. One look in the mirror and I was devastated and in tears. Guess it was just time for me to be able to let loose and boy did the tears flow. Next morning I headed down to the best store ever "Compassionate Beauty" and purchased a couple of Amoena camisoles. No tears the next night. Just never know what might set you off...just remember you will get over it. Hope your next week of recovery goes well. I'm sure it will. Remember to be really kind to yourself and do not overdo it. Treat it much like your first week despite feeling stronger.
Best wishes to everyone over Easter.
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Three days post op for me. I have three drains, 2 on my right on the mastectomy side and one on the left on the reduction/lift side. Managing the pain pretty well overall, but have one spot under my right arm that stings like mad if I move it wrong. I'm not sure if it's a drain site or the sentinel node site.
Surgeon only took the sentinel node and the early report is that it's clear and I'm hoping the final pathology report will confirm that.
They sent me home with some compression socks which I'm to wear for 6 weeks after surgery. A good idea I'm sure because of the risk do DVT, but not something I've heard others mention. Also, in the hospital I had on these compression boots for any hours I spent in bed.
Somehow during surgery I ended up with a scratch on my eyeball, so I've also got ointment for that. They thought it might have happened when taping my eyelids shut during surgery.
All I all I'm doing well and hoping for the best for all our other April sisters.
Hugs to you all!
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Scuba lady...I had the compression stockings for that long as well. I had to have a PICC line to deal with staph, that which my extended the time I had to wear them.
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Zeeba - I'm starting to freak out too as my surgery gets closer. Between the guided imagery CD (I think it really does help!) and reading about everyone's experience here, I am feeling less anxious about the surgery. Recovery is going to be long and unpleasant, but I will get through it. Yesterday I realized what I am scared of is how my body is going to change and that it is forever. What if the outcome is very disappointing? What if there are long-term issues from the surgery like pain? Sometimes I just can't wrap my head around the fact I'm about to have a major surgery and remove part of my body for a threat that I can't feel or see. I feel so healthy and normal, how is it that I have cancer?? I remind myself of the reasons why I am doing this and I look at my daughter and know it is the right thing. This is just a really big thing to process....
Rambling Rose - I am so sorry to hear about the invasive foci. That sucks!!!
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4 days post op. Can I lay on my side if it's comfortable? I'm worried about expanders shifting. Any feed back?
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thanks for the sympathy, Rubiyat. I am pretty angry. I can't wait to talk to my MO next week.
I liked your post about do feeling betrayed. I am 58, and thought I was in great shape...swimming, spinning, weight lifting. I eat well, I don't smoke, I thought I had beat BC once already. I was so gob smacked when I learned there was a recurrence, never might now that they have found invasions. I feel like all my good dooby points are valueless, accumulated to no useful purpose.
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If anyone wants pictures of my drains or incisions send me a message. My sister husband and I cannot believe that it looks as good as it does.
This sounds so weird but I feel totally myself. I feel pretty. I feel calm. Pain always feels manageable. I can sleep. My body is different obviously but I do not feel loss. I feel relief. My pathology came back all clear so of course this factors in.
To get this far in the process, we are all so strong. It is not easy to get to this place. There is something surreal going into surgery to remove your breasts. But they had to go! They served me well but not anymore. They would have caused me fear the rest of my life. So a goodbye to them was easy. Sending all of you peace. "In the depth of winter I learned there lay within me an invincible summer"---Camus
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