February 2014 Starting Chemo Club

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  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited April 2014

    congrats to all!   We will all get through this.   

    Weekly Taxol is going faster than I expected.  Last week they gave me a bag of iron.  It looked like a bag of Merlot ( I wish)

    Did anyone's hair grow back during taxol?? I have stumbled but think I'm loosing my eyelashes. 

  • h0pe
    h0pe Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2014

    Jbok - what number are you on? Had my first one yesterday and I passed out 3 times! I think it was from the premeds, though. Not the actual taxol. 50 mg of benadryl and steroids did not make me feel very well. I couldn't even stand. Seeing if they can reduce premeds or take it away all together next week.

    Are your symptoms ok? They told me towards the end of taxol, you might see some hair growth. 

  • Sicilian
    Sicilian Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2014

    lago, you know us all so well. Finished my chemo nine days ago and staring in the mirror every morning searching for new growth.

    Congrats, Ladies! Hang tough. I also have a radiation consult coming up, but I may postpone it due to my non-existent white count. I see the onco on Monday for another check and will decide then. Although I hear that after the third week of radiation, you are barely crawling around from fatigue, that it's a relative breeze after chemo. Started running a low-grade fever again this morning, but that's also a side effect of the Neupogen. Sigh. Two steps forward, one back.

    In the middle of all this, my 87 year old mom, who moved in with us after my dad's death, has started to slide into dementia. We just discovered she isn't paying her bills and her phone was shut off (she only has two bills, her Visa card and her phone bill. We cover everything else). I had to ask my brother to come over and handle everything because I just can't right now. Not sure what to do about her future. It's not looking good, but I can't imagine putting her in a home.

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited April 2014

    Sicilian, goodness when it rains it's pours!!! So sorry to hear about your mom. I'm hoping you brother can help you out as much as possible!!! Heres hoping those counts start rising quickly and you can at least put one thing behind you!!!

    Hope-my first taxol is 4/25 and I am more scared of the premeds too!! I hate the steroids and Benadryl usually knocks me for a loop. Bleh!!! I hope they can adjust for you! Keep us posted!!!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    Sicilian check out the Alzheimer's Association site. You mom may not  have Alzheimer's but Alzheimer's is still a type of dementia. They do have info on dementia. There is a lot of good advice and pdfs to download even for caregivers. (I know this because I designed several of their pamphlets in 2005).

    Have one of your siblings bring her to an MD asap. They might be able to slow it down.

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited April 2014


    The weekend has not turned out as I had hoped. Dh caught a stomach bug and was up all night throwing up. So, not celebrating our anniversary this weekend :( Ironic is the word of the day!

     

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited April 2014

    h0pe- I have completed treatment number 4.  I have not had any problems with the premeds, but they are about the same as I had for the AC.  So sorry to hear you had such a hard time!

    Jules- I hate the fog the premeds give me too....but I  am more afraid to see what would happen without!

    Sicilian- Lago gave you some good resources...best wishes with this!  It so hard to manage our aging parents, especially now.  Side question for you...I see you did the tattoo nipples.  Did you find an artist yourself or did the PS do it?

    Tang- sorry about the anniversary weekend...maybe next week?

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    jbokland my PS did my tattoos. I think he used 2 colors. He did a decent job but they have faded and I should have them touched up. But no matter who does it be sure you see their work. I couldn't afford the tattoo artists since insurance won't cover it unless done in an MD's office.

  • Sicilian
    Sicilian Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2014

    Lago, as always, thanks for the advice. She actually sees her doctor this week re: her diabetes. He's also my doctor, so I plan on calling him to alert him. She insists she's just fine, maybe a little forgetful is all, but "I'd like to see you when you're 87!" is what we get. I don't know if she's covering up half the time or simply forgetting. She tells us her bills are all up to date, but then when we looked through them, they're unpaid, sometimes for months. She always asks us what day of the week it is, but I know that many retired people lose track of that since they don't have a set schedule. She's increasingly isolating herself as well, content to sit in her recliner and watch endless hours of moronic TV shows. It's terribly sad, and it's been so hard.

    Tang, so very sorry about your anniversary plans. It really stinks, as we seem to have such small windows of feeling well between treatments and we look forward to doing things when we can! I hope you can reschedule SOON!

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited April 2014

    Sicilian- when my mom was becoming frail (and she was so hard of hearing!) I put a camera in her room to check on her when I wasn't there.  I bought it at Costco.   It allowed me to see her  from my computer or iphone so I could get a 45 second view of what she was doing.   It was very helpful because every time she didn't answer the phone, I was convinced she was dead on the floor....when in reality she was watching TV and couldn't hear the phone.  BUT There was one time she had fallen and I saw her end table tipped over.  I called my sister and she ran right over.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    Sicilian go with your instincts. Of course she is hiding in her room. She doesn't want anyone to know. Not quite the same but my dad would deny he needs a new hearing aid... hears just fine. I asked him "how do you know what you can't hear?" He said "good point." But your mom probably knows and is scared. I know my grandfather was. He had some dementia at the end. He lived till 89!

    The site does have info on what is typical forgetfulness and what isn't. When you or a sibling has time I highly recommend reading. I went through this with a friend of mine to convince her that  her mother was having problems. Sure enough she actually has Alzheimer's. The meds are controling it.

  • gatorgal89
    gatorgal89 Member Posts: 56
    edited April 2014

    Hey Everyone!

    Checking in. First week of Taxol wasn't that great, so MO told me I had to go back for more fluids after treatment #2, which psychologically was worse for me and I don't think it made that much difference. The second week Taxol premed Benadryl made me so super dizzy and I did not sleep AT ALL that first night, which is the first time I ever experienced that. Nurses said it was from coming down off the Benadryl. They also sent me home with the needle in my port and that always makes for a restless sleep, but this time I felt completely jacked up! LOL. So, now for Taxol #3 tomorrow, they want to cut back on the Benadryl. Does doing that increase the likelihood of an allergic reaction to the Taxol? Have any of you girls on Taxol reduced the dose of the Benadryl pre-med? I've gotten 50mg for treatments 1 and 2. As usual, I'm having Sunday chemo anxiety. The extra fluids make me feel bloated and horrible, so I think I want to skip those this week. Going to treatment once a week is hard enough, having to get up and go the next day too, just to feel bloated hardly seems worth it to me. As an aside, my normally supportive family says to this "where else do you have to be? Why not just go?" grrrr.

    Hope everyone is having a good day/week.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    gatorgal89 I was on Taxol's cousin Taxotere. Other than Benadryl (made me spacey and high too) I took Zyrtec the entire time per my oncs recommendations. It took my body about a week to get used to that because any of that stuff makes me spacey. I would ask your onc about it or even if Claritin or one of the other antihistamines would help. You just might not play well with Benadryl.

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited April 2014

    for me it was the steroids giving me the 1st sleepless night after treatment. Gator gal, are you gettin at least 590cc of hydration with your treatment ?

  • Xrayalli
    Xrayalli Member Posts: 237
    edited April 2014

    So happy for you all that are finishing, and for who said they felt like a fraud, you are not. You are a fighter and a soldier for your family and those who care about you, aren't you? Doing what you had to to stick around? you'll get through....go get you some spring fever :)

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited April 2014


    Hello Ladies-

    Late night here, I just got home from the ER. I caught the bug dh had, it started around 11am and I went completely downhill after that. I checked my temp around 7p and it was 101, so I called the doctor and she said I needed to go because I was probably dehydrated. So, 2 bags of fluid later and a scrip for Cipro, I'm home. They saw some white blood cells in my urine as well.

  • princessrn
    princessrn Member Posts: 370
    edited April 2014

    tang.,, feel better soon!!!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    tangandchris Hope that fever goes away fast.

  • Sicilian
    Sicilian Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2014

    Tang, so very sorry. When you said that you had to cancel your plans because of that virus, I was afraid you were going to get it. Take care and feel better soon.

    Gator, sorry about your chemo woes. Hang in there. Like lago, I did Taxotere, not Taxol, but they gave me steroids not Benadryl, so I completely identify with the bloated thing. Ten days after finishing my last treatment, and I still feel like I look pregnant.

    Thank you so much for all the advice on my mom, guys. You all are just amazing.

    I see the onco today to check my blood count again. Here's keeping my fingers crossed that the white count is up!

  • h0pe
    h0pe Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2014

    Tang - I hope you feel better soon! 

    Hope everyone has a good/better week. 

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited April 2014


    Thanks ya'll! I'm feeling better...not puking or having the big D. I'm just worn out now. I wonder if my chemo will be postponed because of this. I'm annoyed, I STILL haven't heard back from my doc's office and I called this morning. It's 530p here and no call back....after being in the ER last night? grrr

     

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    tangandchris I would be pretty annoyed too. Many doctors do call as late as 7pm. But if you don't get a call back call and leave a message tomorrow with details. I would come right out and ask if the doctor was aware that you were in the emergency room. Sometimes you have to be a squeaky wheel... and yes you know they are dealing with other patients but you have an issue too!

  • Jules_NY
    Jules_NY Member Posts: 276
    edited April 2014

    Seems like most of us had a craptastic weekend!!!!!! I hope everyone starts to feel better soon. Even if it's just a little bit. Had my own little pitty party, spent my 40th bday in bed yesterday.  This last AC really did me in. I Usually feel better by today but not this time. thank god I don't have to do it again!!! 

    God bless anyone who did this before side effect meds! And probably for a lot longer too!!!! I can't even imagine!!

    Hugs to all!!

  • babyduck
    babyduck Member Posts: 63
    edited April 2014

    I'm usually on the March group. Started 2/28. Was wandering on some of you who are having chemo before surgery.... How is the breast doing? Mine is still swollen after 7 Taxol. Red and bruised still from biopy, mri, mammo.... Has US and looked better inside but not so much outside. Just thought I would see if any of you had similar instance or better results than mine "seem" to be... Thanks!

  • lgoldie
    lgoldie Member Posts: 120
    edited April 2014

    Craptastic is right.  I, too, just had my last AC and am definitely not doing much bouncing back.  My mouth is yuck and I think I overdosed on Magic Mouthwash last night.  Pounding fast heartbeat, couldn't move...but as usual with side effect, lived through it.   Don't swallow a bunch of it is my advice.  I start Taxol on the 24th.  Wish I knew what to expect for that party.  Leah

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited April 2014

    Leah, just jumping in here, I HATED AC, I thought it was legal torture. I finished last Dec. 

    Taxol, much easier...everyone is different but...My Taxol was dose dense, 4 infusions ( triple dose ). If your is weekly its even easier...

    There is a finish line, hard to see sometimes, but it is out there. 

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited April 2014

    yes. Taxol better!  Although I cannot figure out why my eyelashes waited until now to leave me. ( I think I have 3 left on each eye, but that hair will still grow on my upper lip.  

    No justice

  • h0pe
    h0pe Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2014

    I had sx before chemo, babyduck. Did you have stereotactic biopsy? Usually, the swelling and bruising can be bad from that type of biopsy. Either way, your platelets are probably down from chemo, so it will take you much longer to recover. Have you MO or BS look at it. I'm a nurse, and I remember seeing swollen, bruised breasts from biopsies - it can take a while sometimes to recover. 

    Taxol is a lot better. I've only had #1 of weekly tx. Going in tomorrow for #2. I've been drinking coffee the last couple of days. It gives me a little boost. Taste is definitely better. Still fatigued, but not as bad as on AC. Jbok - what # are you on now? Are you eyebrows hanging in there? My body hair is still full throttle. Thinking I need to shave before brunch this Sunday! 

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited April 2014

    jbokland I never  lost my all my  lashes on chemo... then about week 5 PFC (Post fina/fucking chemo) the fell out. This is not unusual. What was happening was the new lashes were growing and pushing the old lashes out. So maybe this is a sign they are growing back!

  • h0pe
    h0pe Member Posts: 125
    edited April 2014

    Can taxol cause bone/muscle pain?

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